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Guybrush122
12-25-2001, 12:10 AM
list the qualities you would die for in a girl/guy? (ie just the imaginary person and list traits of you utmost fantasies)

My perfect girl:

-great sense of humor
-appreciates great music (ie 65 through 75 plus punk and sublime)
-romantic
-nice
-comfortable to be around with (ie they make you feel very comfortable and not embaressed when you tell a bad joke)
-speaks her mind
-enjoys reading
-likes computer games like i do ;)
-charitable
-likes to be held
-intellectual

the reason why i posted this is because i was discussing this at a party tonight...we played jenga (WE BEAT THE GUINESS RECORD OF STACKS OF 32!!!!) then we played "taboo" and then we discussed our perfect significant other...i figured it would be the perfect topic for the forums!

Dragon Threepwood
12-25-2001, 12:15 AM
Perfect girl

-nice
-comfortable
-No fear of the outdoors (like spiders and birds)
-comfortable
-romantic
-reads
-Loads of common interest
-sence of humor
-atheletic enough to do it (I mean like know how to rollerbalde)
-Got have a taste for ice cream :D
-optimistic
-accepting
-trustworthy
-fun to be around

Alexa
01-02-2002, 10:43 PM
I'm not sure what my idea of the perfect guy would be although i do know what he would:
1. be himself and speak his mind
2. Be athletic - to some degree
3. common interests.
4. nice/caring ect.
5. honest and trustworthy
6. and FUN!!

Alexa
01-02-2002, 10:43 PM
oh ya... congrats on the world record thingy Guybrush!
~Alexa

Deadmeat_X
01-04-2002, 03:08 AM
-Rich :D
-Nice
-Funny (means: likes my sick sense of humor)
-Good-looking
-Common interests (means: likes playing games and doing nothing)
-Bright

I could come up with more but I can't concentrate cause of the flashing Chello-banner

Haggis
01-04-2002, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by Deadmeat_X
I could come up with more but I can't concentrate cause of the flashing Chello-banner
I've been wondering about that for some time now, do all people actually see these Chello-banners? Or are they localized or something? Because I don't understand how people could actually make something out of "dag en nacht online voor een vast bedrag per maand" if they don't speak Dutch. The banner annoys me, and if I hadn't Chello already, I wouldn't sign up.

Fender
01-04-2002, 09:37 PM
-Goth
-IRON MAIDEN! fan
-Bigger "Whatsits" than the girls in my class
and then the list gets X-Rated...... :D ;)

Feral
01-05-2002, 07:25 AM
Jovial (i.e. always happy)
Smilesome (yes, I made up that word)
Romantic
Open
Doesn't get freaked when I leave romantic messages on her computer file and then call me a stalker even though if she'd listend to the song 'I'll Be Watching You' by 'The Police' she'd know what the **** I was on about.
Can take a hint; i.e. when I spend 8 hours hanging around her in Paris playing it cool, buying her ice cream & candy floss, and generally protecting her from odd street vendors pushing uselss crap, she doesn't go off with one of my best friends the next day.
Is understanding of my views and opinions.
Enjoys the company of boring, fat, gits who tell ****ty jokes.
Doesn't talk to stupid arseholes with no manners, no self-respect, no wit and no braincells over the romantic who is doing his GCSE maths 2 years early (i.e. me)
Lives up to expectations
Doesn't become confused when I tell jokes from 'Frasier'.
Likes me

HelenW
01-05-2002, 08:50 AM
Ooh Feral do I detect a hint of bitterness? You had a rubbish time over what happened but I hope you are joking in your list, don't let it make you bitter!! It will ruin things when you meet someone else you like!! (sorry got to live up to what you said about giving advise, lol, but seriously, don't let bad experiences with one girl, reflect on your expectations of what everyone else will be like, been there myself, and it is not good!!!)

Ok, my ideal man would be, (emphasis on IDEAL, will never find anyone like this)

- good looking, (Brad Pitt clone would do)
- be able to have a laugh together, (would have to be slightly mad and hyper like me)
- have a 6 pack
- good job, (like a doctor or psychologist would be good as I hope to become Dr clinical psychology)
- has 'taste'
- trendy
- has same interests as me.
- well educated
- a gentleman, i.e buys me flowers and opens door for me and stuff and has good manners.
- err.......probably more but you get the idea, :)

Feral
01-05-2002, 08:53 AM
I am a wee bit bitter, but I am half-kidding. Now, obviously, those qualities are great, but generally don't apply to most people :P

Guybrush122
01-05-2002, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by fender
-Goth
-IRON MAIDEN! fan
-Bigger "Whatsits" than the girls in my class
and then the list gets X-Rated...... :D ;)

i really hope thats not true................ :eek:

plus, its gonna be hard to find a goth who likes iron maiden with big tits......

Feral
01-05-2002, 01:14 PM
Who said anything aobut tits? I have spoken to Fender and he meant ear-rings :D

Fender
01-05-2002, 01:58 PM
OK, Metalhead, Iron Maiden Fan, big earings.

MurrayDude
01-05-2002, 05:15 PM
Yeah, that was really obvious.:)

Fender
01-05-2002, 07:55 PM
Your a total Dude, Murraydude!

Meksilon
01-05-2002, 08:35 PM
Hmm, if we are talking compleatly ideal, perfect, as in she could be anyone I wanted and then look, talk, walk, act, behave, beleive, dress however I want - well then it's quite obvious isn't it? The girl I'm going out with, LAUREN.

=mek=

Kj°len
01-05-2002, 09:27 PM
Tough question.

-Catholic
-Beautiful
-Smart
-Kind, Generious, nice
-Slightly temperous (Must have sometime in common)
-Likes computers, PS2, Nintendo, etc.
-Good sense of humor
-Slightly sick sense of humor (*See "Slightly temperous" in the ( )'s)
-Doesn't see other boys and says 'C Ya!'
-Brave,
Slightly shy (Not like "Can't speak to ANYONE!")
-Good will power
-MUST LIKE MONKEY ISLAND!:D

That would be the perfect girl....*sigh....:(

MurrayDude
01-06-2002, 01:15 AM
I know the perfect girl...she already exists *rips himself apart and becomes really hyper* And now we're back.


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Natty
01-06-2002, 01:42 AM
Originally posted by fender
-Goth
-IRON MAIDEN! fan
-Bigger "Whatsits" than the girls in my class
and then the list gets X-Rated...... :D ;)

Well there you go, Mena Souvori or however you spell her name :p Just think in the Teenage Dirtbag video she had 2 tickets to Iron Maiden :p actually she wasn't really goth though, and I dunno how big her thingies were, its not like I looked


Hmmmmms... perfect guy?

*Gotta love cricket and AFL, a bonus would be he goes for the same team as me, but that just means I have more fun arguing with him when our teams play :D Ohhhhhhh and he's gotta love going in the standing room with the drunken yobbo's and yell and scream and cheer (although in cricket you gotta go bay13)

*He's gotta be funny and smart, but not the know-it-all smart that really annoys me (something that annoys me about my bf, he can act know-it-all smart sometimes and it annoys me something shocking)

He's gotta have a great body and look like Heathy, hmmmmmmms, not that's ever gonna happen, but oh well.

*He's gotta love partying and is prepared to stay up until 3:30 in the morning drinking and having a good time (another thing that annoys me about my bf, I don't call going to bed at 12:30am new years eve particually fun)

*Sweet and sensitive

*Prepared to give me my own space if and when I need it

*Allows me to spend time with my friends and not get annoyed if I say I'd rather spend the night with friends

Meksilon
01-06-2002, 02:27 AM
Originally posted by Guybrush M-T
-Catholic

*GASP*
















I just remembered my girlfriend is Catholic... well that's her one and only flaw then - not being Protestant.

=mek=

Natty
01-06-2002, 03:02 AM
I'm catholic, but it's not like I care about religion, I only worship one person and that's me :D

MtBlanc
01-06-2002, 03:54 AM
Originally posted by Meksilon

I just remembered my girlfriend is Catholic... well that's her one and only flaw then - not being Protestant.

Well, maybe I'm missing a joke here, but I'm not a big fan of people who consider religion an area for judgement. I don't want this to tumble into a discussion about religion, but, I also don't want to think you're someone you aren't, Meksilon.

Or maybe I should loosen up. :)

Alexa
01-06-2002, 04:15 AM
I totally agree with MtBlanc! Religion is something between a person and Buddah/God/Allah/Satan ect.(sorry if they r spelled wrong) How can their religion be their flaw?? because if you are thinking about it that way then maybe your religion is your flaw and hers is "the right religion". Its not like this is a big deal or anything and i don't want to come off as sounding b*tchy, i just wanted to voice my opinion :Ů
~Alexa

Meksilon
01-06-2002, 05:15 AM
Originally posted by MtBlanc
Well, maybe I'm missing a joke here, but I'm not a big fan of people who consider religion an area for judgement. I don't want this to tumble into a discussion about religion, but, I also don't want to think you're someone you aren't, Meksilon.

Or maybe I should loosen up. :)

Let's say I call myself Protestant (for argument's sake since I really hate the whole divorce idea I don't want to use the word Anglican). Well that's not accurate either. Not really. But The Pope has been a symbol of religious corruption.

Now I could get really long and complicated about why God exists and therefore what He is, but these are Theory and not Truth can be claimed until proof can be proven beyond the throey doubt, which it can. So say I said Jesus was a black man, I would PROBABLY be right, but I don't know for certain. However let's assume that someone in the street says to you "This Is How A Christian Should Act".

If this person quotes only Bible quotes he can be right.
But if he does not then he's added to his religious version of Christianity.


This is what bothers me about Catholics, do you take a man's word over God? The answer should be obvious, but then for them it isn't. And please don't talk to me about other religions, becouse of their cult-like nature I'll say too much. Catholics have that cult-based nature you see, which is what I don't like it results in people seeking or claiming, even enjoying power.






*phew*

Or could've said mamihlapinatapai amoung Catholics. Hmm yes that's far more simple and effective even if I'm not speaking English I wasn't anyway, right?

=mek=

Feral
01-06-2002, 05:27 AM
Does that mean you aren't allowed condoms, or is it just that she can't use femidoms? :p

Metallus
01-06-2002, 05:46 AM
This is what bothers me about Catholics, do you take a man's word over God? The answer should be obvious, but then for them it isn't.

For them? You ought to listen to yourself once in awhile. I think you should know that you are running the risk of insulting a few of them who happen to post here quite regularly.

Natty
01-06-2002, 05:48 AM
The pope is against sex before marriage and condoms and so on- I guess I'm in big doo doo with the pope then... hmmmmmmms nevermind, probably too much info, but with those sort of comments makes me hate religion, I mean come off it we're in the 21st centuary, with those sort of comments about condoms and everything by the pope, would he rather that everyone gets pregnant and having unwanted children and so on and so forth, rather than using some form of protection? That's just my opinion, and while I don't mind people having their opinion on religion, I get really cranky when people try to force a particular religion on me by saying "blah blah blah blah blah god is wonderful, worship him blah blah blah blah"

Feral
01-06-2002, 06:39 AM
Met, I don't think he meant any offence. What else could he have said? He couldn't have said 'you', bexause 'I' may not be Catholic (and I'm not). He couldn't have said 'you Catholics', because that's even more offensive than 'them'. He couldn't have said anything without it seeming offensive, so 'them' was a pretty good choice.

I realise I'm walking on thin ice here, and I don't mean to offend anyone; I just think you're being a bit harsh, Metallus.

Meksilon
01-06-2002, 07:16 AM
I'm sorry, I should have thought twice about using the word them and instead reused Cathloics. I do not intend any offence in any post here. Cathloics are simply a division of Christianity, and yes "no sex before marrige" and the no condom/pill idea do often make Cathloics hypercritical.

But then again I could speak of my own beleifs in the area. [mine being I hate divorce and think it should be illegal]. You know it's like IVF and how I don't like it; genetic selection, soon maybe genetic screening - I will never submit.

The other hypercritical thing is ofcourse to say one thing and do another, but I won't go into that.

=mek=

Guybrush122
01-06-2002, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by Meksilon
I'm sorry, I should have thought twice about using the word them and instead reused Cathloics. I do not intend any offence in any post here. Cathloics are simply a division of Christianity, and yes "no sex before marrige" and the no condom/pill idea do often make Cathloics hypercritical.

But then again I could speak of my own beleifs in the area. [mine being I hate divorce and think it should be illegal]. You know it's like IVF and how I don't like it; genetic selection, soon maybe genetic screening - I will never submit.

The other hypercritical thing is ofcourse to say one thing and do another, but I won't go into that.

=mek=

well thats just stupid, let me get this straight......you don't like the catholic religion because you don't agree with their principles of religion. But you are not judging catholics, you're generalizing a few catholics that you have met, I'm sure you don't know all the catholics in the world (and not the majority either) and you categorize them, you, sir, are an ignorant, dictator...

Kj°len
01-06-2002, 04:15 PM
Wow...I caused a major chain reatcion. Anyways, I think Catholics can use condoms and pills.... I never heard anyone say not to....

Natty
01-06-2002, 08:33 PM
Catholics can use condoms and the pill and have sex before marriage, it's just that the pope frowns on it and basically says you're gonna go to hell if you do so- of course he doesn't say it like that, but that's the general outline. I'm catholic so it looks like I'm gonna go to hell :D From what I gather, also catholics hate gays, which is hard considering my friend is gay and when he went to confess it to a priest, the priest basically said he was going to hell- now he hates himself coz he's gay coz he doesn't wanna go to hell. I just think the catholic religion is way behind the times and need to get with the programme. I know not all catholics think like the pope, but basically coz he's the big boss person literally, many people follow what he says- thats why I personally think religion is screwed, I prefer to do my own thing without worrying about if I'm gonna go to hell coz of it. But that's my opinion

MtBlanc
01-06-2002, 08:37 PM
I smell the the disgusting stench of prejudice here.

Anyways, I just wanted to know if Mek judged people based on religion. And due to his obviously biased views, I assume he does. Well, I certainly look down on you Mek. I have no respect for you, and I consider you a horrible person.

Frenchyd
01-06-2002, 08:40 PM
Takes the subject AWAY from religion ;)

`Humor. Come on, if I make one of my sarcastic remarks, and he just sits there, or corrects it, or whatever, I'm going to.. piss on him.
`Looks. I'm not talking Brad Pitt, but if I can't look at him without throwing UP on him, that's no good.
`MJ Fan. OK, I went out with this guy who hated MJ and that's what we fought about all the time. MICHAEL JACKSON! COME ON!
`Smart. OK, This may be shallow but I'm talking REALLY SMART, A) uhh MONEY. and B) Nothing like a nerd in bed (did I say that out loud?) heh :)
`Not too Horny. K, Like I'm talking he should be able to watch me eat a banana/lick a popsicle without getting all randy


Live from New York it's SATURDAY NIGHT!

Guybrush122
01-06-2002, 09:55 PM
Dinghy: Amen

Frenchy: What?

Meksilon
01-07-2002, 08:10 AM
A few words:

1. Gays are a delicate issue I personally beleive homosexual relaionships are wrong, but it isn't wrong to be gay. (ie as the Bible says "homosexual offenders will be sent to hell").

2. Religion either makes a person a part of that religion or hypercritical.

Guybrush122
01-07-2002, 09:30 AM
Originally posted by Meksilon
A few words:

1. Gays are a delicate issue I personally beleive homosexual relaionships are wrong, but it isn't wrong to be gay. (ie as the Bible says "homosexual offenders will be sent to hell").

wow, you ARE stupid. its not a choice to be gay....dumbass, they cant help it.........

Natty
01-07-2002, 07:51 PM
I don't know whether it's a 'choice' to be gay or whether it's a I can't think of the word I'm looking for, ok basically they're born gay. The thing I don't get with gays is why does it take them to realize at the age of 14/15/16 that they're gay? I personally don't have anything wrong with gays- I love em dearly, they're so cute personality wise, especially drag queens :D

In the case of gays, I don't think it's fair to judge someone based on who they prefer sexually, maybe I'm being biased coz one of my closest friends is gay, and I love him dearly, but he's the same as before I knew he was gay, only he prefers guys.

MtBlanc
01-07-2002, 10:29 PM
There's a major difference between you and Mek, Natty. You have been experienced by the outside world and this is why you think the way you do. You're sympathetic to homosexuals, because you know that they are real people too, they aren't evil. You aren't biased, you simply have experience with such a subject. Do you even know any homosexuals Mek, or are they just something you read about on www.chick.com?

Frenchyd
01-07-2002, 10:41 PM
I love when I try and do EVERYONE a favour and they all bowl me over.

*siGhs, sits down with popcorn and watches a movie with hot boys*

Meksilon
01-07-2002, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by Guybrush122
wow, you ARE stupid. its not a choice to be gay....dumbass, they cant help it.........

[A certain portion of this message used naughty language and was censored out. Swearing is not a good way to resolve any kind of argument, well, unless the fight takes place in a Saigon whorehouse. Have a nice day! - MtBlanc]

If you aren't going to listen to what I say you don't deserve to post a reply. I know they're born gay - I never denied that: I even said that. But to actually have homosexual relationships is a choice.

READ AGAIN:
gays are a delicate issue I personally beleive homosexual relaionships are wrong, but it isn't wrong to be gay. (ie as the Bible says "homosexual offenders will be sent to hell").

Don't ever talk to me in that way again. I have not said anything to personally attack another here, and I won't. I'll simply say you are misinformed and blinded.

For instance:
Leviticus 18:22, God clearly commands, "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable." Imediatly after verse 23 says: "Do not have sexual relations with an animal and defile yourself with it..."

The first Chapter of Romans is particually interesting, if you'll read from say verse 24 onward. Note verse 26 calls it "shameful lusts".

Furthermore, Jesus always upheld the Old Testament Law (see Matthew 5:17-19 which I've written out for you at the end), which strictly condemned homosexual acts. Because in the bible HE does not address Homosexuality individually does not mean it's okay, there are many sexual behaviors that He did not address including incest, rape and bestiality.

It's the homosexual act which is wrong, I never said that some people won't be "naturally" attracted to members of the same sex, I said that the act is wrong. And there is not one verse in the Bible to contradict me; hence I must beleive the lines that agree.

I suggest any of you read through Solomon's Song of Songs which describes the beauty of hedrosexual lovers.

=mek=

Matthew 5:17-19 (Jesus speaking)
[17]Do not think I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. [18]I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the last stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. [19]Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commandments will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Meksilon
01-07-2002, 11:06 PM
I really hate to do a double-rply like this, but the last one took me so long to write two more posts popped up in the mean-time and I didn't want to just edit it into my previous message.

Originally posted by MtBlanc
There's a major difference between you and Mek, Natty. You have been experienced by the outside world and this is why you think the way you do. You're sympathetic to homosexuals, because you know that they are real people too, they aren't evil. You aren't biased, you simply have experience with such a subject. Do you even know any homosexuals Mek, or are they just something you read about on www.chick.com?

No offence intended here, Natty is majorly hypercritical. A real Catholic is supposed to think of the pope as more important then Jesus is today (which also makes Lauren hypercrical and I don't think she's really Catholic although she insits she is). In her (Lauren's) words I can really be a "pain in the arse". If my girlfriend thinks that of me I can't exactly expect anything too great here.

All the same, I do know what I beleive and why I beleive it, in answer to your question MtBlanc, yes I have had gay friends in the past but currently do not. No one is evil, but everyone has the potentional to do evil things even for what can be seen as pure reasons.

I didn't call Homosexuals evil. But the act is fueled by the evil one.

This is where my input to this conversation stops because I have said all I wish to say on the subject and while you may want to post a reflection on it in a reply this isn't a Christian message board and we've been off-topic long enough. I will answer PMs and emails though.

All I have said is because I feel strongly on the matter and I beleive that it is important, thankyou all for sharing your views with me.

=mek=

MtBlanc
01-08-2002, 12:42 AM
You'll make one last comment, and so will I. First of all, do you mean hypocritical when you say hypercritical? You haven't been making any sense by using the word hypercritical, so I assumed you meant hypocritical.

And gay people do evil acts apparently, but they aren't evil themselves?...hmmmm....because they're motivated by Satan?...hmmm....Now if that isn't a flawed statement, my name is Shirley.

And lastly, how do you get off saying Catholics believe that the pope is more important than Jesus? This is an incredibly wrong statement, and if you can find any Catholic literature to actually back it up, I'd like to hear it. I don't believe anything in Vatican II stated that all Catholics renounce Jesus in favor of a pope. I myself am I Catholic of 18 years. I have been confirmed as well. I have many friends with the same faith. I am also close friends with a priest. My mom has taken many classes in theology. You are wrong. The Pope is the highest earthly authority, but everyone on Earth answers to the higher power. And that means everyone.

I didn't want to respond to any of your other garbage about Catholicism either. Most of it is junk that is based on stereotypes about the religion in the 17th century! But this was the one incorrect statement I couldn't stand.

Also, apparently, you don't follow the teaching of Jesus that states that you should treat everyone equally: the blind, the poor, Jews, Gentiles, the rich, whoever.

And finally, you got a last statement, and so did I. I will now refrain from posting about religion and prejudice. PM and instant messenger only please.

But here's the qualities in the perfect girl for me!

-Sense of humor - cliche, but come on, it's important.
-Active - I don't like anyone who sits around all day.
-Intelligent - Self-explanitory
-Must treat all people equally - I don't want to go out with Mek's sister here, come on. (ooh, unnecessary low blow)
- Good-looking - Not necessary, but hey, it's a mighty big plus.
-No smoking - Uggh
-Should refrain from listening to Michael Jackson at all times. :)

Natty
01-08-2002, 12:53 AM
How am I hypocritical? Just coz I'm catholic doesn't mean I have to agree with the religion, the only reason I'm catholic is coz my mum is and I had my communion when I was 7 or whatever. At least I'm moving on and getting with the programme in the 21st centuary, the pope isn't, he's still in lala land over things like condoms and gay people. I believe in treating everyone the same, whether they be male/female/homosexual/jewish or whatever the person is. I just think religion sux, but that's my opinion. Many of my friends are catholic, and the only reason they are is coz their parents are blah blah blah blah, and they've had their communion when they were younger, we all agree the religion is crap and in someways very unfair to gays and lesbians. I was always brought up to treat everyone equally and respect others, and in my opinion, the catholic religion doesn't do that to gays and lesbians.

MtBlanc
01-08-2002, 01:23 AM
Heh, who are you trying to argue for Natty? :)

Anyways, Mek is saying because you consider yourself a Catholic, that you must support all of the traditional doctrines of the Church. ALL of them. Even though I am a confirmed Catholic, I don't always agree with the Church. My priest doesn't even agree with the Pope. It's not a big deal. Supposedly, religion is a cookie-cutter process in which if you choose a faith you must agree with it wholeheartedly. Maybe Mek thinks that all Democrats must think exactly the same.

But whoops, I posted again. Sorry, but it was way too tempting. :)

Now about that perfect girl/guy...

(Stop posting Natty! :))

Natty
01-08-2002, 01:37 AM
Originally posted by MtBlanc
Heh, who are you trying to argue for Natty? :)
(Stop posting Natty! :))


I'm arguing for myself, I'm still trying to figure out why I'm a hypocrite, I mean I didn't get a very good reason for why I'm one, basically other than I think the pope needs to get with the programme and into the 21st centuary

Post :p

MtBlanc
01-08-2002, 01:59 AM
You aren't a hypocrite for wanting the Catholic Church to adopt more modern doctrines. Now go ask Mek in PM!

Aargh, this extra posting is horrible! Back to the topic!

Meksilon
01-08-2002, 03:27 AM
I am very much a man of my word, I'm not going to post any more, I mean God created woman FOR man and it then explains why we can have hedrosexual relationships, but I'm really not interested in continuing to people with closed minds. Two years ago I would have agreed that gays are fine, but I've learnt since then.

Let me draw your attention to the issue: it is God's word. The name of God is Yahweh. Who has the highest authority. IF He says something is wrong then it is wrong, and there need not be an explination. For instance if you have a job and do not give away 10% of your earnings you are sinning against the Lord God.

Yes okay I'm not a spelling wiz, you don't need to tell me hypocritical, hypercritical, it's all the same to me.

And gay people do evil acts apparently, but they aren't evil themselves?...
Yes, they are influenced by the Beast (who's name is Satan and NOT Lucifer). Simple, that's the only explination I offer, they have simply allowed themselves to be mislead by evil, yes.

And lastly, how do you get off saying Catholics believe that the pope is more important than Jesus?

I too am confimed, but I was confimed in an Anglican church. I don't beleive the Priest or any Bishops have higher authority then any other Christian. They are leaders but not God, that's the diffrence with the Pope. The Catholic beleif is that the pope is more important to God than anyone else, he is God's authority on earth as Jesus was 2000 years ago and hence Catholics are supposed to live by his word along with God's. For instance "don't use contraception" which I personally think is a compleatly wrong beleif.

It's true I don't treat everyone equally, that is my flaw. but I do treat gays equally. But I have a huge problem when it comes to cults/occults/cult based religions. Then, I'm sorry, but I do get biosed.

By the way, ask yourself this from Natty...

How am I hypocritical?
...
I just think religion sux.

She's Catholic? Ha, don't think so. She isn't even Christian, I can't beleive she said that! Perhappys you could include that quote saying "that's why your hypocritical" for me, but I don't want to offended anyone or get into personal attacts. But to disagree the pope my friend is a contradiction to the meaning of Catholic. Now open your Bible, there are 67 books in there, well there are in the Protistant version anyway, if you can't find any evidence to support the fact that Homosexual acts aren't against God's will then we'll assume I'm right.

In closing I'd like to remind you that yes some people are gay, I know that and I never said they aren't born that way. But they should have the wisdom not to give in to "shameful lust".

=mek=

Personal Note: This was supposed to be a PM to MtBlanc, but it was 2.8 times to big and I could never condence it. I have not altered a thing and I am very angry I was forced to post it since the email function is disabled. MY email is aractus@msn.com if you want to corrispond that way. Thank you.

Natty
01-08-2002, 04:12 AM
How dare you say I am not a catholic? You don't even friggen know me, it's my opinion that I believe the pope should get with the programme- we're living in the year2002 now, we're not in the 17th centuary anymore. It's my opinion- so deal with it.

You're a joke Mek, go take your pathetic preaching onto some lame bible bashing forum, just because I'm catholic doesn't mean I have to agree with everything the pope/religion says.

I don't think the pope is higher than God- and to any catholics that do, probably belong in the fruitloop house.

Maybe I should say that God doesn't exsist? Does that make you happy? I think god is a jerk, he can kiss my arse, I had sex with satan and I'm pregnant with his child.

Sheeeeeesh, sure I've seen people talk rubbish sometimes, but you really take the cake- get over it, why should I agree with everything the pope says?

Deadmeat_X
01-08-2002, 10:18 AM
My god it looks like the EO-forum in here... (Dutch ppl know what i mean).......Check my post in mek's other topic, cause I'm not gonna type it again (A SINN!!! AHHHH!!! *gunshot*)

Guybrush122
01-08-2002, 03:56 PM
I dont deserve to post a topic????? I see, so all of a sudden YOUR God and can tell me what I deserve and what I don't......

And as for the gays I understand, it's ok to be gay but not happy because you can never have a relationship that is true and pure, what a god.

Kj°len
01-08-2002, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by Natty
Catholics can use condoms and the pill and have sex before marriage, it's just that the pope frowns on it and basically says you're gonna go to hell if you do so.

I don't think that you will...*Gets nervous* I mean people that do aren't doing it to be evil or anything. It's not like your killing a baby, just stopping you from having a baby. Right? God wouldn't do that to you if you do. I have faith.:)

Guybrush122
01-08-2002, 09:11 PM
Origonally posted by Mek...
Homosexual acts are fueled by the evil one...

AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! oh man are you so stupid. let me get this straight....using your physical parts to induce physical pleasure for an emotional purpose with an opposite member of the same sex is strictly the Devil's work. sorry, but i think the Devil has more cruel intentions in mind........and by your standards the Devil glows with pride everytime he sees Christopher Lowell shag another guy. Wow. You keep thinking that.

Natty
01-08-2002, 09:59 PM
He's being evil by preaching his crap to us- I don't care really, he can crap on all he wants, but at the end of the day it's my life, and if I choose to have sex before marriage and use a condom or any other form of contreception, I choose to go to hell (as it is I'm already going to hell for that sorta thing) Maybe I should indulge in lesbian activities? :D Although I need a hat-trick, what's something else the good old pope hates? ;)

Kid
01-08-2002, 10:15 PM
1. There is a topic about this seperate from here, why are people still talking about this on thus topic?

2.Back to the subject, shall we?

Im usin Mtblanc's list as a bse since its so similar to mine...

-Sense of humor - this is probably one of the most important qualities.
-Intelligent - doesnt have to be a genius, but not a ditz either...
-Good-looking - not supermodel or anything, but someone I find attractive at least...
-No smoking - Most important!
-Should refrain from listening to Michael Jackson at all times.indeed
Not too clingy/needy-BIG turnoff...

MtBlanc
01-08-2002, 11:00 PM
Ooh, good one Kid. Yeah, I don't want anyone who wants a lot of things or is really materialistic. First of all, rampant materialism is something I'm not a fan of, and second, it's expensive!

Frenchyd
01-09-2002, 12:28 AM
*siGh,* so close to TWO people... ;)

MtBlanc
01-09-2002, 02:58 AM
Alright, fine, Michael Jackson is cool.

Guybrush122
01-09-2002, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by MtBlanc
Alright, fine, Michael Jackson is cool.

Saying that should be a sin...

Natty
01-09-2002, 08:23 PM
Heeeeeeeeeeeeey, what about the Beatles, weren't they bigger than Jesus? and then Oasis claimed to be bigger than the Beatles, so that makes them also bigger than Jesus :p

Meksilon
01-09-2002, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by Natty
Heeeeeeeeeeeeey, what about the Beatles, weren't they bigger than Jesus? and then Oasis claimed to be bigger than the Beatles, so that makes them also bigger than Jesus :p
No, they claimed to be "more popular then God", which was probably true at the time, however after that people asked themselves who should be more poular then God...

=mek=

Swordmaster
01-15-2002, 04:22 AM
Originally posted by Natty
I don't know whether it's a 'choice' to be gay or whether it's a I can't think of the word I'm looking for, ok basically they're born gay. The thing I don't get with gays is why does it take them to realize at the age of 14/15/16 that they're gay? I personally don't have anything wrong with gays- I love em dearly, they're so cute personality wise, especially drag queens :D

(Just briefly stepping into this heated discussion.)

Natty, that is natural development for any teen. A person becomes aware of his/her own sexuality in teenage; some sooner, some later. It works the same way for straights, bisexuals, gays, lesbians, transsexuals or whatever you happen to be. There's a lot of uncertainty connected to that particular age when one's exploring sexuality and many people who end up being straight in their lives have gay experiences then -- and vice versa. Also, this uncertainty mixed with the heterosexual expectations of the society lead to the fact that gay teens are more likely to attempt or commit suicide than straights of the same age.

Swordmaster signing off in rainbow colors. :cool: