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Natty
01-10-2002, 04:05 AM
TWO little girls are shattered after callous thieves drowned their beloved puppy in the family pool.

Tiny dachshund Bella was kicked in the ribs by the cruel burglars then thrown into the pool and left to die at the Hertzberg family's East Brighton home.
Sisters Lauren, 7, and Alex, 10, returned home with parents Harry and Elizabeth on Tuesday afternoon to find their seven-month-old pet floating lifeless in the pool.

They spoke tearfully of their pain at losing their little friend.

"She was very playful and I loved her lion's paws," Lauren said.

Alex said: "She could go and go on forever."

Harry Hertzberg said his daughters were devastated.

"The girls found her in the pool, just floating there," he said.

"I've never, ever seen something like that.

"I've never seen two little girls so devastated. They're still coming to grips with it.

"I don't know how anyone could do that to a harmless little pup.

"I don't care what they're doing.

"It's heartbreaking.

"Things just don't get any worse than this."

Mr Hertzberg wrapped Bella in a towel and took her to a vet where the girls insisted on a final goodbye.

Police believe Bella may have barked at the burglars, who retaliated.

The Hertzbergs lost $6000 in goods, including DVD players, a Hyundai mobile phone and a Yamaha stereo.

But that loss was nothing compared with Bella's fate.

"She was so happy," Mr Hertzberg said. "She had energy to burn -- 24 hours of energy.

"She was special, a well-natured pup. The stuff (the stolen goods) doesn't mean anything.

"I would really love to catch the person to see them put through the wringer."

Mrs Hertzberg said the family's other dachshund, three-year-old Hugo, sniffed around the pool where his playmate perished.

"We got Bella because he (Hugo) was a bit lonely and we decided to get him a playmate," she said.

"Bella was feisty and speedy and she was just so wonderful. They were like opposites that attracted."

Lauren added: "She wrestled with Hugo and they played round together. He's been looking in the pool, looking for Bella."

Sen-Det Steve Cornwill, of Brighton police, said the little dachshund, at 30cm tall, would not have presented a threat to the burglar.

"He could have walked around it. It wasn't going to cause any injury. It's appalling," he said.

Sen-Det Cornwill said the injuries to Bella were consistent with her having been kicked.

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I know it's all depressing, but I can't get over how, I dunno how to explain it, I mean if it had been any of my dogs- I'd be so heartbroken, and it's not just the family who have lost a pet, the other doggy has lost his playmate :( Sorry I've just been having a good cry over it, they looked so helpless on the news before :(

Meksilon
01-10-2002, 07:11 AM
I really needed to know that, I was much happier not knowing.

=mek=

Charley
01-10-2002, 11:13 AM
That is soo sad. How could someone do that to a harmless little pup like that? There really are some nasty people out there. How could they have the heart to do that?:( :mad:

Joshi
01-10-2002, 11:56 AM
you know... i may seem like the insensitive type at times, but that really got to me. why would someone do that? to get back at the family, i mean taking a life, even if it is an animal, it's still a life. if anyone's read the poem 'Snake' by D.H Lawrence, they'll know what i'm talking about. honestly.:(

murta
01-10-2002, 02:17 PM
Yeah, smethig likethat happened in my home town, some thieves intentionally dropped a sofa on top of a westy dog and left it on top of it to dleed to deaht then when the eldery residents returned home they not only had the shock of finding their home burgaled and ransacked. but soon discovered the dead dog

People = Sucky

Guybrush122
01-10-2002, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by Meksilon
I really needed to know that, I was much happier not knowing.

=mek=

oh, how thoughtful and consiterate you are! what a kind, thoughtful, humanitarian you are!

**** YOU! There is no respect for any living, breathing, thing on earth from you is there? People like you give humanity a bad name...

[I'm not a big fan of throwing the f-bomb around like that, apostrophe or no apostrophe. -MtBlanc]

Kid
01-10-2002, 09:24 PM
ok, so you have a problem with the guy.

But in my opinion, a mod should be setting an example. There are numerous young people here, and you ripping off swear words in every post you have id really setting a bad example.

Then you complain he should be banned, is that not one of the jobs of a moderator?

Don't mean to rip into you here, but its just coming out that way

Peace:)

Meksilon
01-11-2002, 06:25 AM
Originally posted by Kid
ok, so you have a problem with the guy.

But in my opinion, a mod should be setting an example. There are numerous young people here, and you ripping off swear words in every post you have id really setting a bad example.

Then you complain he should be banned, is that not one of the jobs of a moderator?

Don't mean to rip into you here, but its just coming out that way

Peace:)

I don't beleive it. How could I read something like that and then forget it. I really ment I was happier not knowing, because it's a really sad story and I was expressing it in my own way, there was no need to mock me. It was so sad, still is and I didn't need to read it.

=mek=

Natty
01-11-2002, 07:52 AM
This might seem like stating the obvious- but Mek, you can tell after the first few lines if you wanna read it or not- just pointing it out

Meksilon
01-12-2002, 07:16 AM
Originally posted by Natty
This might seem like stating the obvious- but Mek, you can tell after the first few lines if you wanna read it or not- just pointing it out But I couldn't stop, I thought there might be a happy ending...

=mek=

Natty
01-12-2002, 05:47 PM
OK fair enough, I guess the first line did state that 2 little girls are shattered after their dog was drowned in the family pool, but you're right :) I hope it does have a happy ending, maybe if they find who is responsible, just kick him a few times then throw him into the pool to drown

Meksilon
01-12-2002, 09:31 PM
Revenge is NEVER true justice.

=mek=

Guybrush122
01-12-2002, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by Kid
ok, so you have a problem with the guy.

But in my opinion, a mod should be setting an example. There are numerous young people here, and you ripping off swear words in every post you have id really setting a bad example.

Then you complain he should be banned, is that not one of the jobs of a moderator?

Don't mean to rip into you here, but its just coming out that way

Peace:)

i thank you that your honest :)

i dont want him banned.........i had a bad day that day.........and, who better to take it out on then the first guy who pisses me off.....sorry :)

oh yeah, and kid......im one of those young people (thirteen and proud) and im not mod of much.....(not complaining) :D


Revenge is NEVER true justice.

HURRAY! mek has said something that I agree with on a moral level *claps* :D

Meksilon
01-13-2002, 06:36 AM
Originally posted by Guybrush122
oh yeah, and kid......im one of those young people (thirteen and proud) and im not mod of much.....(not complaining)Geez, no wonder you think your right and I'm wrong all the time. Truth and beleif are one and the same to you! Beleive me, I'm 18 and I have learned a lot since I was 13, I now understand a lot of things I couldn't comprehend at your age.

Take it easy,
=mek=

Fender
01-13-2002, 06:39 AM
just because me and him are 13, does that make it impossible for us to understand the stuff you do? Explain.....

Feral
01-13-2002, 06:54 AM
Hey, little tip...Things very rarely end happily. Stop your *****ing and fight your way through it...I'm sure you'll survive. I'll bet you're one f those people who think that they should only show happy stories on the news...well, I'll tell you what-every coin has two sides.

Natty
01-13-2002, 07:04 AM
Mek? are you implying that Guybrush, Fender and any other 13yo's on this forum or in the world for that matter know nothing just because they are younger? Just because you're older doesn't give you the right to accuse them of thinking differently to you. Guybrush has never said he's right and you're wrong, he's just said he doesn't agree with your opinion. I want you to explain what you mean, coz as far as I'm concerned that's another usless unprooven comment you've just made.

You can't expect things to be all happy and flowery all the time- there's a real world out there and at the age of 18, you should realize that. The difference between you and Fender, Guybrush and Feral (I mentioned Feral coz I know he's similar age to Guybrush and Fender) is that they realize there is a big world out there and not all of it is nice. Still, the way you act, you're 18 going on 8.

Meksilon
01-13-2002, 07:13 AM
Originally posted by fender
just because me and him are 13, does that make it impossible for us to understand the stuff you do? Explain.....

Well let's go back to the sexual prefrence. Everyone is attracted to members of the same sex. To make it simple let's imagine that there's no variation in how attracted they are. Homosexuality comes because of the lack of finding the oppiste sex attractive, therefore the same sex is more appealing.

Of course technically this sexual prefrence appears to be natural, but we live in what is an un-natural world. When I was 13 I thought of God and Nature as the same thing. How wrong I was.

The nature we see it's necessarily natural.

I didn't coprehend homosexuality even when I was 16! I still had the idea that because it's a from your "natural" sexual prefrence, and a part of you - where do you go wrong. The Bible tells us that the man's role and the woman's role ARE significantly diffrent and that a woman should never be with more then one man, even after leaving one. Men on the other hand were diffrent. They could take more then one wife if in doing so they did not violate the rules.

Now don't jump at me, there was another kind of relationship, one which by a man would, not under compulsion but under love, give his life for one woman only. It was essentually the same except that he choose to be only with one woman.



It had always puzzled me what it was, it was true love.



Now let's face it, a guy or girl can go and sleep with many people, which is wrong. But they can be pure. If they choose to be

Unfortunatly this senario cannot work with a guy and a guy or a girl and a girl. This is what I just breifly mentioned above, sinful lust.

=mek=

Feral
01-13-2002, 07:19 AM
And who the hell are you to tell us what's right or wrong?

Natty
01-13-2002, 07:20 AM
Don't they teach sex education in Canberra? Hmmmmm strange I would have thought they would, afterall, Canberra is the porn capital of Australia.

Everyone is attracted to the same sex? OMG! Mek did a naughty :eek:, he commited a sin by being attracted to another male, oh noooo, we better to take him to see a priest straight away so he can be clensed of the evil that's inside him for being attracted to another male :eek:

Meksilon
01-13-2002, 07:22 AM
Originally posted by Natty
You can't expect things to be all happy and flowery all the time- there's a real world out there and at the age of 18, you should realize that. The difference between you and Fender, Guybrush and Feral (I mentioned Feral coz I know he's similar age to Guybrush and Fender) is that they realize there is a big world out there and not all of it is nice. Still, the way you act, you're 18 going on 8.

You should talk. Gays... oh very well, I suppose that's diffrent, it has to be flowery and nice for them. Well there's a REAL, LIVING, LOVING, CARING, COMMANDING God out there too. And the diffrence between you and me is that every day I have to prey that I know His word and I'm not misinterpertating it.

Oh yes I'm in touch with reality. Sort of.

=mek=

Meksilon
01-13-2002, 07:26 AM
Originally posted by Natty
Don't they teach sex education in Canberra? Hmmmmm strange I would have thought they would, afterall, Canberra is the porn capital of Australia.

Everyone is attracted to the same sex? OMG! Mek did a naughty :eek:, he commited a sin by being attracted to another male, oh noooo, we better to take him to see a priest straight away so he can be clensed of the evil that's inside him for being attracted to another male :eek:

How many people have you had sex with?

=mek=

Natty
01-13-2002, 07:27 AM
We aren't talking about religion- sheeeesh, dude is that all you care about? There are other things in the world to worry about beisdes religion? If I was you I'd be worried that parliment house could get blown up any min due to a terrorist attack, or starving children in Eithiopia, my life doesn't revolve around some guy I can't see. I live my life the way I want to and I'm happy. Just coz my opinion and beliefs are slightly different to yours doesn't mean they are wrong, they aren't right either, what part of it's my opinion don't you understand? Would you like a dictionary?

Natty
01-13-2002, 07:32 AM
Originally posted by Meksilon


How many people have you had sex with?



That's rather personal isn't it?- but I've only ever had sex with 1 person, and that's my bf who I've been going out with for over 2years. We've only had sex a few times, afterall we both agree there's more to our relationship than sex, that's not what we believe a relationship is for. We agreed that we would have sex if it's a special occasion like an anniversary or something. I'm commited to him, and I don't believe that sleeping around and being a **** is the proper thing to do God would be so proud of me :D

Meksilon
01-13-2002, 07:38 AM
No, I care about God more then anything else, yes, of course, obviously.

And I care about my girlfriend, Lauren, she's like God. Not in the way you think, what I mean is that she's the only girl for me, I know it. I am wholely devoted to her and I would never cheat on her, if she moved out on my life I would still never cheat on her. That is detestible.

=mek=

Natty
01-13-2002, 07:45 AM
If god really exsists why hasn't he granted my prayer of 10million bucks? Hello? God? You out there? I want my money damnit :mad:

So how many times have you had sex? And oral sex counts as does mutual masturbation, coz it's a form of playing with her twat-you do know what her twat and clit is don't you? Does she also know what a religious freak you are?

Feral
01-13-2002, 08:45 AM
Posted by Jesus, the Messiah and the Holy Ghost
I care about God more then anything else


Two syllables, folks...looooo-serrrr. Geez, dude, get a bloody life! I have nothing against religion, and I have nothing against people who follow it, but I do have problems with homphobic, holier-than-thou arsewipes, such as yourself.

Also posted by our good friend Jesus H. Christ
I'm in touch with reality


My arse you are! You're so out of touch we don't even need a video ref!
Dud, get a life! You can't get happiness following the Bible word for word - and God knows I tried it for at least a year.

Grannen
01-13-2002, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by Meksilon
No, I care about God more then anything else, yes, of course, obviously.

And I care about my girlfriend, Lauren, she's like God. Not in the way you think, what I mean is that she's the only girl for me, I know it. I am wholely devoted to her and I would never cheat on her, if she moved out on my life I would still never cheat on her. That is detestible.

=mek=
Iím convinced that you would have been a very successful Jesuit priest in Spain during the 1600th century. Iím sure you could have had anybody to confess any type of sin, of course even Lauren has sinned and have them to beg for mercy when you tortured them and finally burned them - all in your Gods name.

Fender
01-13-2002, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by Kid
Then you complain he should be banned, is that not one of the jobs of a moderator?

Kid:

Me,
GB122,
NiKo,
Mtblanc,
Natty,
Grannen,
Frenchy,
Newfound,
and Brief can't ban. we can only edit and stuff.

Legolas T.
01-13-2002, 12:53 PM
OK im new to the forums, and when i saw this, it was just horrifing! I have a dog of my own, and I just can't imagine what that familly must have been going through. I feel really sorry for them.

NiKo
01-13-2002, 01:21 PM
i always say:

its nice and good to set a stable belief for yourself.
but dont try to get others to believe in your beliefs against their will...

live and let live dude....

Meksilon
01-13-2002, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by Natty
If god really exsists why hasn't he granted my prayer of 10million bucks? Hello? God? You out there? I want my money damnit :mad:

So how many times have you had sex? And oral sex counts as does mutual masturbation, coz it's a form of playing with her twat-you do know what her twat and clit is don't you? Does she also know what a religious freak you are?Yes, okay, fair enough, by your standards, including every form of either me in a chick's pants, or her in mine, for every chick who's pu*ssy I touched, and/or a chick who has touched my c*ock - well to cut a short story shorter, Lauren's the only one. Of course oral sex isn't really sex... anal sex is sex though (ack, it dosen't excite me in the slightest though). Wait, no I only think it is, that's enough. Oh yes, and I will only ever have sex with one person. That's the commitment I have made, also I will never again take another in her place without sex either. That would be wrong.

Oh Natty, if only you knew how disappointed God is in you. I wouldn't say that if I didn't know it to be absolutly true, because not only did I speak TO Him, He also spoke to me. I never knew it was this easy, I asked Him to show me, and He decided He would.

Einstein once said "I only want to hear the thoughts of God", and now I have heard some of them. I'm not judging you here Natty, now I know that my God: Yahweh, is most certainly disappointed in your behavior here Natty. What He says to me is the absolute truth, which is why I know He ment for me to be with Lauren and never anyone else. I didn't ask about you and your boyfriend, one day you might find yourself asking Him. And you'll have to be ready to accept His answer.

May this be from I, a witness and servent of God, who speaks His words of wisdom, not mine. Any argument you come up with now will be against His word, not mine for it is His will that I tell you this. In this case whatever you say against me will be against Him.

Additional: God hears your prayers, and He always answers them. The love of money is the root of all evil, until you do not love money or you hate it as I do you cannot ever serve God. For He provides for you, I tell you the truth, you do not need money when you are at one with God. And since you don't need it, you need not worry at all about it.

I have absolutly concluded, there is nothing more I have to say.

.:"meksilon":.

Metallus
01-13-2002, 07:16 PM
And with that, let me show you the exit.

Natty
01-13-2002, 07:20 PM
Mek, I have one word for you FREAK If you've spoken to god tell him I want my money, and I want it now, I'll be checking my bank account later on this afternoon, I don't think he needs my bank-account number, coz afterall he is god, and god can do anything- can't he Mek? You've spoken to him.

Mek- God loves us for who we are, and we here on the forum are living the life we want to, we're happy, if we go to hell, then so be it- Hell looks like it's more fun anyway (ala Little Nicky)

I know I have said some pretty harsh things, but Mek you brought this upon yourself- just because some of us don't agree about religion, it doesn't make us wrong, it doesn't make us right either. But what has really got up a lot of noses is you're holier than thou preachy-preachy bible crap. That last post was the final straw- I respect your opinion, but when you start accusing others and being rude to them or abusive because of their religious beliefs, that's going way to far. God didn't make us to all be the same- you should know that. I'm not about to apologize- I doubt I have anything to apologize for- I didn't start this, I'm merely ending it, I've asked that you be banned, this is getting beyond the joke, no matter what you try and do, you turn it around into some pathetic religious discussion, if you wanna talk about religion go to www.god.com

MtBlanc
01-13-2002, 07:33 PM
So he thought God was talking directly to him, huh? Makes sense why he was so adamant about his beliefs.

Setion
01-13-2002, 07:47 PM
Egad! I can't belive I didn't see this before Mek got banned... I could have written a whole smack essay!

Natty
01-13-2002, 07:50 PM
I'm curious- has he done it on any other forum? You seem to know him Setion- so I'm curious, does he bahave like this on other forums? Or are we the unlucky ones?

Anyways- he's banned, but I'm curious now

Grannen
01-13-2002, 07:53 PM
Meksilon was right when he wrote:
God hears your prayers, and He always answers them.
He has now been banned as we so deeply prayed would happen!

In a way it's a pity because it has been a while since we had such a funny and entertaining maniac posting here. Letís hope a new nut will appear soon! :D

Natty
01-13-2002, 07:57 PM
Lets hope he/she isn't a religious freak when the new one appears :eek:

Kid
01-13-2002, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by fender


Kid:

Me,
GB122,
NiKo,
Mtblanc,
Natty,
Grannen,
Frenchy,
Newfound,
and Brief can't ban. we can only edit and stuff.

Ok, didnt know that.

But why cant Newfound?

Natty
01-13-2002, 08:20 PM
When the forums switched servers his role got downgraded- Murta is a supermod coz he posts on most of the other Lucas Arts forums, where as NFGB doesn't, so now Metallus basically took NFGB's place, not that we're complaining, basically a super mod can ban or whatever on any of the forums and stuff. I might have it mixed up a lil bit but thats what I understood it to be- someone might need to correct it a bit

MtBlanc
01-13-2002, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by fender


Kid:

Me,
GB122,
NiKo,
Mtblanc,
Natty,
Grannen,
Frenchy,
Newfound,
and Brief can't ban. we can only edit and stuff.

*gasp*

I'm offended. I can ban. I'm a supermod.

To find out who is who, click on "Forum Leaders" on the main page.

Metallus
01-13-2002, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by Natty
When the forums switched servers his role got downgraded- Murta is a supermod coz he posts on most of the other Lucas Arts forums, where as NFGB doesn't, so now Metallus basically took NFGB's place, not that we're complaining, basically a super mod can ban or whatever on any of the forums and stuff. I might have it mixed up a lil bit but thats what I understood it to be- someone might need to correct it a bit

Well, I don't like to think that I took anyone's place. I only acted because an escapemi moderator put in the request for the ban, and presented the argument well enough.

Natty
01-13-2002, 08:53 PM
Yeah, I know, what I mean is now you can ban, but NFGB can't if that makes sense, NFGB is a mod, it's just his role of being able to ban has been downgraded, and he can't ban anymore- at least I don't think he can? That's kinda what I meant- sorry if it came out wrong :)

Metallus
01-13-2002, 09:08 PM
Plus, I'm not a big punk fan. I'm a metalhead *yok yok*.

Setion
01-13-2002, 09:41 PM
I don't really know him, I've seen a previous thread where he voiced his laughable opinions about gambling adds, although he thought that porn adds were grrrreat!

Natty
01-13-2002, 11:20 PM
Originally posted by Setion
I don't really know him, I've seen a previous thread where he voiced his laughable opinions about gambling adds, although he thought that porn adds were grrrreat!

Ohhhhhhhh Mek commited a sin *giggles* he thinks it's funny about those poor people who lose houses and their families and money because they become addicted to gambling (I assume those sort of ads where you see the person being a nice person to a lying cheating moron coz he's lost all his money and needs his next big win)


That sounds a lil hypocritical of what he's been babbling about in here- why is porn different to having sex? Wait nevermind, he lives in Canberra, and for those who don't know Canberra is the porn capital of Australia- basically all Australia's porn comes from there coz it's the only state where it's legal- hmmmm no wonder he thinks porn is great :rolleyes:

Anyways he's banned now and I'm happy :D