View Full Version : Need some Help.....

01-20-2002, 12:17 PM
I posted this topic last night, it was moved to an XWA Tech forum, which is unvisited. Not only that, but this is not an XWA Issue. I like the peolpe here, and I can always get an answer to my problem. Keep in mind this is a JKII AND non-JKII forum, so if this topic is moved, it will just make this place a hypocracy.
I have the X-Wing Collectors cds that include the X-Wing and TIE Fighter95 games. They both ran fine on Windows 98, when I had the OS last year. Now I have XP (reformated before installing XP, so I'm just installing the TIE Fighter game new on htere), and I'm having trouble with TIE. I have DX 8.1 for win2K, the newest version there is. The installation of the game went fine, but every time I launch the Star menu for the game and hit play game, the install directX 5.2 comes up. All I can hit is install or cancel, so I hit install, and the only options are reinstall, ok, and cancel. If I hit ok it brings me back to the previous menu and still won't start the game. If i hit reinstall, it says install successful, and it still does the same thing when I go back. I've tried using the compatability wizzard on XP, to change it to Win 98 and 95, but in both cases, the game won't run, rather it gives me an error message about making sure my joystick is calibrated. Lucas Arts support has nothing on their website about XP. I'm hoping someone can help me, it sounds like a directX issue or something, but I'm not positive what the root of the issue is. I know there are tons of bright folks here, so hopefully someone can lend a hand.
Thanks all!

01-20-2002, 12:26 PM
Calibrate your joystick then.

01-20-2002, 12:27 PM
I had a joystick error a short while back(in XWA). Luckily( :rolleyes: ) I kinda screwed up Windows XP a little and had to reformat. It works now!

01-20-2002, 12:33 PM
Well, its a Gravis Digital, its already calibrated, and I tested it as well. Next to the joystick name, it says "OK", so the computer is reading it. For some reason however, the game is not reading it.

01-20-2002, 12:46 PM
That's because the game isn't reading it...

You should have an analog joystick for those older DOS based games...
(My copy of Dark Forces won't read my Blackhawk either)
You'll find that most "older" DOS based games won't support the Blackhawk, either.

Gravis has a digital interface called GrIP (I forget what it stands for). But the game has to have a GrIP enabled interface for it to read the Joystick...

Sorry...that's just the way it is...


01-20-2002, 12:49 PM
That sollution would hold up if I were running the Dos Version of this game, but it is the X-wing collectors edition, a Windows 95 based game. When I was running Win 98, the game read this praticular joystick perfectly fine.

01-20-2002, 01:07 PM
Well my joystick doesnt work with Directx 8a :(......it goes all weird, which is a shame seein as it cost about £60 about a year ago.

01-20-2002, 01:34 PM
Read what you just posted...(no flame intended;))

The only differences between the DOS version and the WIN95 version are the installation files...
It is still running in an emulated DOS mode under Windows 95(and98), and there is no DOS in XP...

So the solution stands...


Also remember: WIN95 was not an operating system, it was an operating environment.
95 still operated on top of DOS, Windows didn't become fully integrated with DOS until WIN98...

01-20-2002, 01:50 PM
Ok, just dug out my old Analog Flight Stick..... calibrated it and all, still the same rror message.

01-20-2002, 01:57 PM
You're running XP?

Do you get a specific error message or just the "calibrate joystick" loop?

Are you using the native drivers from XP, or XP drivers from Gravis?(If there are any available)

Are you formatted NTFS or FAT32?(This might be a feasable reason, I don't believe the WIN95 version supports NTFS, but I could be wrong)

That's all I can think of...

Sorry I couldn't be more help...:)


01-20-2002, 02:00 PM
You say you have the latest version of Directx 8......well new isnt always best. Thats the problem with me.....Directx 8 screws up my joystick.......thats most probably the problem.

01-20-2002, 03:17 PM
I found THIS (http://www.gravis.com/support/sup_1038.html)
at gravis.com
They're Beta, but it might help with your problem...


01-20-2002, 03:36 PM
Thank you very much for that link..... Thank you to everyone for such great help, I can always rely on you guys..... Anyway, on that DirectX version thing, is there any way to uninstall DirectX for an older version?

01-20-2002, 04:04 PM
I'm looking for some info on that...

But I don't know if it would be advisable. XP comes with DX8, and it might(read: MIGHT) adversely effect your installation to revert to an older version (older than 8)

01-20-2002, 04:24 PM
You might have to re-install windows.