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digl
02-07-2002, 08:33 PM
Go download it now! its great!!!

http://www.lucasarts.com/exclusive/other/trailer.mov

Wacky_Baccy
02-07-2002, 08:39 PM
You beat me to it (again) digl - I was just on my way to tell everyone myself :)

Is it just me, or is it half an hour early??? (Yay!)

digl
02-07-2002, 08:43 PM
lol
Im an official news hound now, just chek the JK2 Modcentral (http://modcentral.jediknightii.net)

two forum newbies posted after me
I guess there is just too much excitement about it :D :D

It rocks!!!!

ps2maddenman
02-07-2002, 08:53 PM
I like how the Gran is dematerialized, that is cool.

mariners2001
02-07-2002, 09:01 PM
Here's a quick run-down of what it contains....

1) Kyle flipping on his lightsaber at a cantina causing marks on the wall
2) Kyle taking on two robed jedi/sith and many stormtroopers in front of an Imperial transport. One sith flips over Kyle. I thought that Jedi Knotes 6 said that stormtroopers wouldn't fire at those engaged in saber duels...
3) Jan and Kyle taking on some stormtroopers with a stormtrooper rifle. Jan is shooting freaking fast.
4) A Rodian shooting at Kyle with Kyle deflecting shots and force jumping at him.
5) Possibly a multiplayer session with a Trandoshan carrying a lightsaber and Kyle killing him. The lightsaber drops to the floor while the Trandoshan flies off dead.
6) Kyle shooting at a Rodian with a machine-gun type weapon. The Rodian does some sort of flip or roll.
7) Kyle engaging in a saber duel with a sith. This shows a shot of saber locking.
8) An AT-ST coming up on Kyle. Kyle uses a bryar pistol on it but instead of the shots deflecting they seem to be absorbed by the AT-ST's shield. Nice... Also a ship flies by overhead and a huge turret is seen moving.
9) A massive battle with tons of enemies and Kyle non-chalantly deflecting them with ease. Must be multiplay. Bow caster fire is seen.
10) Some sort of ship flies overhead. Might be a tie fighter? Kyle zooms in with his disruptor (?) and is about to nail a Rodian.
11) Kyle shoots down some stormies with his stormtrooper rifle.
12) In the Bespin carbonite room, a Sith chucks its lightsaber at Kyle with Kyle blocking. Awesome.
13) More stormtrooper vandalizing. :)
14) Zoom on stormie.
15) Kyle walking up to Rodians. No weapon present.
16) One of the coolest scenes... A Gran pushes the button on his thermal detonator and is about to chuck it at Kyle but Kyle disenegrates him before... :D
17) Kyle fights a robed Sith and tries lightning but the Sith jumps out of the way in time. Impressive AI.
18) Kyle looks like he nearly beheads a Rodian and deflects an incoming shot. Bespin cars are seen in the background.
19) Kyle takes out someone in the dark.
20) Kyle uses a wall jump against a Sith. He walks a bit slow if I might say and doesn't look quite right. Still incredibly cool.
21) Kyle uses a turret as an incoming missile blows it up.
22) Kyle talks with that "Blue dude from the cutscene screen" and puts down his lightsaber
23) MARCH 2002 - THE END

ooooooooohhh Thanks LEC, Raven and Activision. Can't wait... DEMO! DEMO! DEMO! DEMO! DEMO!

Bio Warrior
02-07-2002, 09:02 PM
well ill be watchin it nonstop till the demo is released

mariners2001
02-07-2002, 09:07 PM
Forgot to say: GAME OF THE YEAR 2002

Wacky_Baccy
02-07-2002, 09:11 PM
Originally posted by mariners2001
Forgot to say: GAME OF THE YEAR 2002

Agreed - it can't possibly lose, now.

Goten13
02-07-2002, 09:15 PM
OMFG!!! *creams* I WANT THE GAME!!!!!! *creams again* :fett:

LilDrumLad
02-07-2002, 09:16 PM
Just one little correction... the blaster fire DOES indeed bounce of the AT-ST. Kyle shoots it on it's underside, so it is just deflected farther away from him.

MercenaryI{aos
02-07-2002, 09:17 PM
That movie was AWESOME. I was doing this -:monkey4:
I going to be watching that until the demo comes out then it will stay in my head for at least forever! Even until I'm a 'content old man'!

mariners2001
02-07-2002, 09:20 PM
Just one little correction... the blaster fire DOES indeed bounce of the AT-ST. Kyle shoots it on it's underside, so it is just deflected farther away from him.

Whoa.. Checked again. That's even cooler!

ps2maddenman
02-07-2002, 09:22 PM
Are you guys having to watch it stream from lucasarts or did you d/l it? (I have the downloaded version if any1 wants it) ICQ me at 120079801

digl
02-07-2002, 09:23 PM
yep they are deflected

I agree mariners2001 about the wall walking animation, Its the only thing that is not perfect in all the trailer
It looks a bit weird, but well have to play the demo to know how it feels
It probably feels awesome :D

Nyghtfall
02-07-2002, 09:25 PM
I honestly, truly, absolutely cannot WAIT for this game!

Unfortunately, I was completely unimpressed by the trailer. Too many things moving around too fast, preventing me from having an opportunity to really soak it all in. I've watched it twice now, and feel it definitely could've been much better, longer, and a tad slower-paced.

In any event, here's to hoping it'll be the 2002 GOTY. From what I could glance (grin), it certainly looks like a very worthy contendor.

MercenaryI{aos
02-07-2002, 09:27 PM
I agree.
But I like the EF disintergration with energy shooting out of their eyes and mouth. But still that was an awesome sniping scene!

digl
02-07-2002, 09:29 PM
A very worthy contendor indeed
About the speed, most trailers are like that
We will have to wait for more videos or wait for the demo

GUNNER
02-07-2002, 09:29 PM
Man, why can't they let us DL crap at work.....
Those porn guys had to ruin it for all of us.:rolleyes:

digl
02-07-2002, 09:33 PM
lol

just some quick stats, 30 people in this forum right now, and over 250 views of this thread in about an hour :D

rolsen
02-07-2002, 09:34 PM
One word: Incredible.

MercenaryI{aos
02-07-2002, 09:35 PM
Yes and like what, 5 threads (at least) on this topic started today.

Indy4
02-07-2002, 09:39 PM
how long is it?

SEYA

ps2maddenman
02-07-2002, 09:41 PM
1:11 in length

Bartolo_JCS
02-07-2002, 09:47 PM
I will make it legal

http://jcs.planetjs.com/files

Great Teaser

but I saw no :syoda:

GUNNER
02-07-2002, 09:49 PM
5 more hours....was the site pretty busy to get the DL?

ps2maddenman
02-07-2002, 09:50 PM
The site wasn't busy at all when I got it at 8:46pm EST.

nequadah
02-07-2002, 09:56 PM
the last part..is that guy..using a turret or...in an ATST?

Darth Lunatic
02-07-2002, 09:57 PM
Perfetc. Excellent teasage!!

Oh man, this game will OWN !!!!!

StephenG
02-07-2002, 09:59 PM
Jedi Outcast looks really good but that movie was wayyy to short.

ed_silvergun
02-07-2002, 10:06 PM
It's great. Incredible. Amazing. Awesome. Superlative. How many hyperboles can anyone find? :D

Some things no-one has mentioned before:

- Kyle is seen fighting along side a female sidekick. Is this Jan Ors?

- Sounds petty, but they kept the design of some of the internal doors from JK. You know, the ones with the letterbox thing in the middle.

- We see an aiming reticle in third person.

- Right at the end, we see Kyle using a large double barreled gun from a rocky precipice. Is this a mounted weapon?

- Blocking a thrown saber does not appear to deplete Kyle's force energy reserve.

- Vehicles: Lambda-class shuttle (stationary)
Twin-pod cloud cars (stationary)
Medium AT-ST (in action)
TIE Fighter (flying overhead)
Something that looks like a Y-Wing (flying overhead)


All in all, the trailer's great. Go download it now!

nequadah
02-07-2002, 10:07 PM
anyway this was roughly what was going on through my head when i was watching the trailer for the first time.

"OMG A;DFLKYHJQ[O5JU Q'6ULMSG'JK1U 6OJ4U L;MS MJHW5 6POUQJ5UPO2JU MTH@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!$AFHDSNMGHSNGH !!!!MADFKLJHAL'KDFJA'LKDJAKL OMG OMG !!!!!!!! OAKJDFA'KFJD'GKFJDGA'LDKFGA ARRGGHH OAJ;FLJDGA'KFDH AAJHKGH ATH;KLAHDFKLJH AIYAERY OM! A'LDFGJA'KLFDG !!!! 'LKJAG "

yep..

ed_silvergun
02-07-2002, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by nequadah
the last part..is that guy..using a turret or...in an ATST?

In an AT-ST. The projectile comes from the mounted turret on the side.

Kurgan
02-07-2002, 10:27 PM
This movie totally gave me Elite Force flashbacks.. and some JK1 flashbacks (which is good).

Cool... cool...

Btw, if you have GetRight, just plug the url into it and download it for easy offline viewing:

http://www.lucasarts.com/exclusive/other/trailer.mov

digl
02-07-2002, 10:36 PM
It possible that it is an AT-ST
That would be amazing
notice the HUD
there is no Kyle energy, that could be the AT-ST energy (which is not completly depleted with the impact)
Its no ammo left indicator as I first thaught, because it goes down with the impact only
But they already said there are no drivable vehicles, si I would assume that Jan or some other sidekick is driving

The Truthful Liar
02-07-2002, 10:47 PM
Okay, I couldn't resist - but in the trailer I noticed that Kyle in the second scene where he fights Dark Jedi, one of the DJ's saber falls out. Did you see that? I thought that was totally swank, very cool :cool: I can't wait for the *DEMO!*.

Yep.. okay maybe someone has already mentioned this fact, even though I checked somewhat thoroughly (sp?)

raH! *me says again* Can't wait for *DEMO!*

:D

Okay, I just thought that scene was particularily amazing because he lost his saber....

*watches everyone walk away sighing*

Oh well... it was worth a shot :(

Fruitloop
02-07-2002, 10:52 PM
Another thing in the AT-ST scene: a flaming (?) projectile of some kind can be seen flying overhead about the same time the TIE Fighter zooms by. It's coming from somewhere off screen. It could possibly be a missile fired from a turret, or a meteor (I remember hearing that Katarn would have a meteor shower to contend with somewhere in the game, so it's a possibility...)

Cool trailer indeed. 56kers needent worry; I have one and it took me only a few minutes to download. :)

Moses
02-07-2002, 11:06 PM
Yes that was quite amazing. Astounding in fact. My friend and I (I've been telling him about the game but he hasn't frequented the forums and such) watched it with jaws open the whole time. I had to refrain from screaming. After it was over I screamed...loudly...twice. After that was over with, though, we went back through to our favorite parts. I particularly liked the way Kyle not only sliced through that one guy (the one whose saber flew out of his hand) but followed through to block the fighter behind him! That was amazing! The disintegration of the Gran was just incredible. I agree about the wall walk, but I think that Raven either has it slow mo in the game or slowed it down for the trailer. What do you think? Cause that does look awfully slow...

All in all though, I couldn't have asked for anything more. I will now hold my breath until the release.:)

Wacky_Baccy
02-07-2002, 11:11 PM
First of all, Welcome to the forums, AB_Legion!!

Secondly-
Originally posted by AB_Legion
Okay, I couldn't resist - but in the trailer I noticed that Kyle in the second scene where he fights Dark Jedi, one of the DJ's saber falls out. Did you see that? [...] Okay, I just thought that scene was particularily amazing because he lost his saber....

*watches everyone walk away sighing*

Oh well... it was worth a shot :(
It certainly was woth a shot! ...I hadn't seen that - thanks for pointing it out! :D

And I agree, it is pretty cool that enemies can lose their Sabres :)

GUNNER
02-07-2002, 11:17 PM
Man I can't wait to get home....3 hours and counting..

Moses
02-07-2002, 11:18 PM
Something else I just noticed. Wall walks take Force (makes sense). So did that jump thing toward the Rodian. Those were the only things I saw that used Force in the trailer though. I guess they're leaving the Force stuff for us to discover in the game. :D

Also, that first fight scene right off the bat is the best I think. The one where Kyle swings at the dark jedi but the DJ does a frontward backflip 180 in the air above Kyle's head to dodge. Yeah...that is the coolest move I've ever seen in a video game. Finally, a game which takes skill and not just button mashing! Woohoo!

digl
02-07-2002, 11:18 PM
welcome AB_Legion!
you should get your welcome gifts soon(altough this guys are not as fast as they used to be, Stormhammer, 114, Rhet, Iv not seen them around much lately)

About the saber falling, It looks very cool :D
I hadnt noticed it either

nequadah
02-07-2002, 11:22 PM
the level of detail is simply amazing....even the little little things have been given attention to.beautiful..simply beautiful

JPMaximilian
02-07-2002, 11:33 PM
Loved the Disruptor, and the Saber, and the 'wall running', loved it.

Darth Evad
02-07-2002, 11:57 PM
AI is AWESOME!!!! :)
You can block sabre throws!!!
Jan helps you.
http://members.rogers.com/darthevad/pics/jan.jpg
http://members.rogers.com/darthevad/pics/wall.jpg

Yodimus Prime
02-08-2002, 12:01 AM
That was the apex of awesomeness.

The only single thing i didn't like about it was the end, it says:

For PC

and not:

For PC and Mac


:( :( :(

mojopie
02-08-2002, 12:06 AM
What would make sense with the wall running is if Kyle was using force speed and then when he hits a wall he justs goes up it. I doubt there is a force wall running power because that would be kinda dumb? Any other thought on what it could be if not force speed?

Darth Yittreas
02-08-2002, 12:06 AM
Guys, I believe this is gonna be the best game of all times. It's just.......perfect. Simply that. Perfect.

Darth Lunatic
02-08-2002, 12:08 AM
Who uses macintoshes?!! Come on! If your a fan of games you must have a PC around the place!! I'm not saying Mac's are bad, i'm just saying if you love computer games it would be a wise choice to have a PC at your home. Since the vast majority of games are released on PC first (sometimes only PC).

I loved that bit where that bad jedi did that darth maul kinda flip!! SICK!!

Yodimus Prime
02-08-2002, 12:15 AM
I'm at a college geared toward computer animation and the like. Macs are the norm. I'm 4 1/2 hours away from my home PC. And even if i could use it, i wouldn't. i can finish a Thanksgiving dinner in the time it takes to boot up. In contrast, this mac has speed i didn't even know existed outside of sonic the hedgehog.


And what do they do? They ignore it like it didn't even exist. Like they feel this need to punish me for choosing a different system. Whatever happened to the happy days of Dark Forces?????

Darth Lunatic
02-08-2002, 12:19 AM
Macs are the norm? What program are using for animation?
The big ones Maya, Softimage, 3d Studio are all used on PC's are there macintosh versions of those programs?

Silent_Thunder
02-08-2002, 12:31 AM
:ewok: Does anyone have a .zip version for download?

I don't have quicktime, and for some reason I can't download it and get it to work.

Also, a .zip file would really come in handy since I have a pathetic little 56k... :(
:ewok:

Yodimus Prime
02-08-2002, 12:33 AM
We use Maya, and it runs on SGI comps with Linux(sp) Overall, Macs are visuals based and a better set up for animation software. the 3d max lab, digital editing lab, and others all use Macs exclusively. And Filesharing between my dorm comp and the lab comps is WAY cheaper than buying tons of zip disks or CD-RW's..

DeathBoLT
02-08-2002, 12:36 AM
if that wall jump that reduced mana was only reducing mana because of speed, this means that speed is continuous.. well if not that, at least it doesn't eat up tremendous ammounts of mana :)

Yodimus Prime
02-08-2002, 12:44 AM
But they also said that the force powers would have different effects in multiplayer. They might have it be continuous in FP and not in MP.

mojopie
02-08-2002, 12:49 AM
Anyone else see the ion cannon in the AT-ST scene and the last scene with the turrent? It's off to the right in both scenes and you see it firing in the turrent sequence.

The Seeker
02-08-2002, 12:55 AM
Originally posted by digl
welcome AB_Legion!
you should get your welcome gifts soon(altough this guys are not as fast as they used to be, Stormhammer, 114, Rhet, Iv not seen them around much lately)

Well, I can't have rumors spreading that I no longer give welcome gifts so: *hands AB_Legion and Official Lucasforums.com Lapel Pin.* (Hey, with rhett retaking his gift basket thing, I was sort of groping and inspired by LEC's gift.

Oh, and the trailer was awsome. I could scarcely believe my eyes with all the saber action, the fast paced shooting, the wall jump (which I think looked fine) well, JKII is certainly gonna rock and keep me busy playing for a few more years.

Wacky_Baccy
02-08-2002, 12:59 AM
Posted by mojopie
Anyone else see the ion cannon in the AT-ST scene and the last scene with the turrent?
No, I hadn't noticed it; pretty damn cool, having working Ion Cannons in it :D

Thanks for letting us know :)

Uber_Saber
02-08-2002, 01:10 AM
Anybody notice that bit just after the second sabre duel, where Kyle's using the Flachette on somepoor rodian? In the backgroun, a door opens, and there's a single cloaked figure, ala TPM and Maul in the hangar.

SaberPro
02-08-2002, 01:14 AM
Did you guys see the part where Kyle runs on wall? It was kind of.....new :)

TheAlbaniac
02-08-2002, 01:14 AM
Great trailer! I can't wait for the demo...
I wonder if they'll release seperate sp and mp demos.

GonkH8er
02-08-2002, 01:44 AM
I went through the trailer about 20 times, frame by frame. The flips that the dark jedis do in the 2nd scene is really quick amazing. In is a full fledged flip, the other, a cartwheel of sorts. very cool ....


We know now that the disruptor has an ammo storage of 20, and 2 are used in the secondary power snipe. tis very cool :)


someone said that Jan (it is jan by the way. its one of the earlier levels) is firing very fast. It's not actually her firing most of them. She only gets off 4 shots. 2 hit that first trooper in front. the other shots are coming AT them.


In the first scene, when kyle pulls out his saber and ignites it, he does so upwards and back, then spins it round backwards in a sort of a "i'm so tuff" gesture. very sweet indeed.

Ham Yoyo
02-08-2002, 01:45 AM
The trailer was kind of short but it was awesome. I had to refrain from yelling "Woooooooooooo I got to have it!" half way through. :) The graphical detail in this game rocks!

I also was wondering why Kyle was trying to take out an AT-ST with his Bryar pistol. Must be because you can't use fists in JKII. :D

I can't wait for this game! I will watch this trailer and the E3 trailer about 5,000 more times this week. :D

GUNNER
02-08-2002, 03:05 AM
Finally got to se it,..that was sweet..

Come on march. :cool:

GUNNER
02-08-2002, 03:05 AM
5600 posts.:rolleyes:

Sarcastic Saint
02-08-2002, 03:21 AM
I only have 1 thing to say......W0000000000000TTTTTTTT!!!!

UniKorn
02-08-2002, 03:24 AM
Yeah the trailer is very cool! The intro of the trailer is very neatly done as well I must say, the way they proceed to the jk2 logo is very nice imho.

Frosty_V2.1
02-08-2002, 03:27 AM
Damn it! It happened AGAIN!!!
I've been checking for it through the whole day and then I go out for a little and BAM! It shows up....d/l now.......hurry up...hurry up..don't fail me now my trusty 56k modem..don't fail me now...

GonkH8er
02-08-2002, 03:43 AM
Originally posted by Darth Evad

http://members.rogers.com/darthevad/pics/wall.jpg


Everyone else notice that the wall run used a little bit of force? Quickly re-genned though

Kozinski
02-08-2002, 03:53 AM
Okay.... NOW I'm getting REALLY excited!!! March 2002 - come on down!

Kozi

GonkH8er
02-08-2002, 03:57 AM
Welcome Kozinski :) enjoy your stay

Frosty_V2.1
02-08-2002, 04:16 AM
*jaw drops*
*tongue rolls out*
*someone in background=*"Hey, stop drooling over the keyboard!"
*continues drooling*



"ahem"
the pace on those saber battle clips looks great-fast and intense,
well u guys have about covered the rest.

Com Raven
02-08-2002, 04:35 AM
There's a zipped 3.2 meg file at uhmm, yeah, fileplanet.com...

And you have to see the difference between gameplay movies and trailers

gameplay: much longer, you really get to see the game, usually longer footage of one scene

trailer: fast, short, just actionpacked stuff, to make the fanvoys drool ....:)

Lord Slart
02-08-2002, 05:02 AM
Firstly I've got to say the trailer was awsome but also i'm slightly dissapointed that there was only 34 seconds of actual footage from a 1:11 trailer. Thats less than half the trailer.

Apart from that moan it just makes me want the game NOW. When the only thing you have to complain about is the length of the trailer then it can't be too bad. Let's just hope we aren't complaining about the length of the game whn it's released. I doubt it though with over 20 levels.

Once again awsome trailer. Can't Wait.

SJD_Culexus
02-08-2002, 05:21 AM
very, very, sweet.

It looks like all my JK2 inspired wet dreams are just going to get all the more vivid... Saber combat looks mad... Mastering it is going to be something more than the JK dominate ground and hit and run tactics.... notice a saber lock stops kyle from moving...

Love the way the enemy AI seems to work... even from this you can tell they're not going to be too dumb. I hope Jan will be as smart as they are :D

I - CANT - WAIT - !!!

Myxale
02-08-2002, 06:07 AM
:p

My english isn't that good to write down my feels.
I saw the trailer frame per frame over and over again!!!! I only can say : that was amazing and more---

1. Jan's back ( her little Ass :) ) looks like in the old JK cutscenes (sweet).
2. The saber fight are more than amazing!!
3. the saber lock ( i love this feature ), and fights are outstanding ...man movie feel is calling.
4. Gimme MORE !!!!!


lol...this game will rock...our little Gamer World !!!!
:D

Nemios
02-08-2002, 06:12 AM
Beautiful trailer, wonderful game. But:

- Still no 1st POV saber images/scenes. I wonder how acrobatics work (such as walk-on-walls and twirls) from that prospective, the one I want to use.
- Only a few force powers are shown, and we already know them.

Now, waiting for a demo... :naughty:

Myxale
02-08-2002, 06:25 AM
Sorry its me again!!!

I just realize that all other Sabers in the Trailer ( not Kyle's one ) are red !!!

Even in this Massive battle scene (with the Bowcaste bolts in it )
>I think its was a MP scene<

:)

Hunter545
02-08-2002, 06:29 AM
There are no words to describe the feelings when I first saw the trailer...too bad I couldnt scream when I saw it...it was 3 a.m. in europe. :p
This game will absolutely rule!!!
...I just love the acrobatics and saber fights...


WOOHOOOOOOOOO!!! :monkey4:

Kozinski
02-08-2002, 06:37 AM
Thanks for the welcome, GonkH8er - I have been watching the build up of JK2 ever since around December - didn't want to get too excited too early but I agree that this trailer makes me want the game NOW!!!!

Lets just hope it has the long life that made DF2:JK sooooo good - and now the sabre battles look even better!

Come On!!!

Kozi :fett:

nykel007
02-08-2002, 06:56 AM
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!, had to get that off my chest. Now for the trailer,:D . It is sweet! I can't wait for the game. The wall jump took the entire cake, saber battles are the bomb, (I'll be using my saber all the time) and everything looks great went it comes to graphics. This game is HOT!!!!!!.

X-Vector
02-08-2002, 07:17 AM
I posted this on 3DR's messageboard, but it fits in here as well (first impressions):

You would think that if 3DR can release a high quality 640x480 Bink video trailer, Lucasarts would be able to come up with something better than a crappy 3MB mono 320x240 Quicktime file that only shows some measly 35 seconds of gameplay.
This is supposed to be the official trailer, dammit!

That niggle aside, I'd have to say that the footage is pretty impressive, although not nearly as much as the DNF vid.
Enemy AI and movement has definitely improved over what was available in Jedi Knight and the lightsaber combat and acrobatics look ace.
I'm still not certain about the level and weapon design though, some of the environments are impressively atmospheric, but in some scenes the cramped feel of (parts of) Elite Force shows up.
Speaking of EF, JO's disruptor rifle is a carbon copy of the function of EF's phaser rifle (although the disintegrating effect looks even more satisfying) and is IMO more "Trek" than "Wars".
I don't particularly like the design of that rifle anyway, but it's good to see the old favorites in their new 'robes', gotta love that Stormtrooper rifle.

Broode
02-08-2002, 07:40 AM
w00t0!

That was the best 1:11 of my life.

A lot of you were talking about the awkward looking wall-walk. I agree it initially looks pretty stupid, but if you look at his feet in relation to his body as he walks up the wall you'll see he looks like he's about to go into a cartweel.
Cool.

And I agree, the disruptor does look more Trek than SW. Especially this:
http://broode.50megs.com/disruptor.jpg

X-Vector
02-08-2002, 08:09 AM
Hey, is that a picture of Kyle flaunting his disruptor rifle in some Imperial closet or what?

Dark Forces indeed.

Darth Lunatic
02-08-2002, 08:15 AM
If you look really closely you can make out a little stormtrooper dancing....

I didn't think the wall walk looked stupid at all! I thought it excellent!! EXCELLENT I TELLS YA!

Anakin
02-08-2002, 08:37 AM
What picture- or is that just me?

thrEEpaGe
02-08-2002, 08:58 AM
personally, i could have done without the 10-15 seconds of intro/conclusion crap....they do that with every trailer (although most of their trailers are like 3 minutes long )

GonkH8er
02-08-2002, 09:04 AM
I agree with that, but it added to the frustration and suspense. It made those 40 seconds so much more intense :)

Kozinski
02-08-2002, 10:19 AM
I agree with GonkH8er - its all about build up and supense. It really does make those few seconds of actual footage so much more dramatic than they actually are - saying you don't want the build up is like saying you don't want the music!



Kozi :fett:

thrEEpaGe
02-08-2002, 10:32 AM
if they would have cut out the buildup some and added about a meg more of footage (that would have kept the file size about the same) i would have been much happier...i would have loved to see kyle finish out the wall jump....im kind of disappointed...i want to see him flip off the wall (ive been tained by the matrix)...but overall, im going to be distributing that file on cd for quite a while to my friends....

The Seeker
02-08-2002, 12:30 PM
Uh, that buildup was awsome. It was like ba ba ba buhbuhbuh ba ba ba. buh buh buh buhbuhbuh DA DA DA. And the entire time, they are doing that animation of like "against all odds, choose your weapon. sieze your destiny." then the music changes to something a bit faster paced and kyle does that saber draw thing.

I have no gripes about the trailer. It showed the gameplay, the pace it is set (or can be). New weapons, new enemies and it was all built up perfectly with the afore mentioned buildup music. In other words, it was perfect to whet my appetite for the game in March.

CaptainRAVE
02-08-2002, 01:26 PM
Well at least now the trailer confirms March 2002 :)......it was quite cool though........escpecially the lightsaber battles and Kyles spin. We also saw him shooting with a character that was helping him :)

CaptainRAVE
02-08-2002, 01:35 PM
Sorry to post again, BUT


Isnt this the in game trailer.......

Arnt we expecting an actual trailer tonight??

TUS_Tomcat
02-08-2002, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by JediKnight_114
In other words, it was perfect to whet my appetite for the game in March.


This year's promises to be a definate Imperial March

lonepadawan
02-08-2002, 02:02 PM
The turret was NOT destroyed. In the corner there is a bar which is full but is decreased when the missile hits.

lonepadawan
02-08-2002, 02:07 PM
Tomcat :rolleyes: :D

digl
02-08-2002, 02:15 PM
As discussed in other thread, that turret could be the inside of an AT-ST, with Jan driving it, because I dont see why a Turret would have that kind of energy bar

Captain: I think the trailer is the same, what happened yesterday was a preview for registered members

Uber_Saber
02-08-2002, 02:17 PM
Really, I was kinda dissapointed the way they did the music, but... I have all four soundtracks and listen to them quite often. They did a couple of weird looping things. Like TPM in miniature. Oh well, the point of the trailer was to demonstrate the game, not the music.:rolleyes:

JR2000Z
02-08-2002, 02:26 PM
Yeah, I thought the remix music in the trailer was pretty bad.

Sound effects and music don't go together in a preview like this.

CaptainRAVE
02-08-2002, 02:29 PM
Ah yea. The one yesterday was for members and todays release is for the general public :).......my mistake. I really should read things more carefully :)

lonepadawan
02-08-2002, 02:35 PM
There are no drivable veichles in this game. Only turrets. That was a turret.

digl
02-08-2002, 02:48 PM
I know, I didnt say that it was drivable
someone said that it was really easy to make a moving vehicle in the Q3 engine, so you could be on an AT-ST, supposedly driven by Jan, while you use the turret
Im not sure of this, but Itd be cool

ps2maddenman
02-08-2002, 02:50 PM
The only real complaint I have with Lucasarts trailers are the Quality of them, they plain suck, they look like someone took a video camera to capture them, other companies make thier trailers look much cleaner quality wise, oh well, just a minor niggle.

BerTron
02-08-2002, 03:26 PM
What are you talking about??? That wall walk a la matrix was so friggin awesome!!! I thought it was one of the best parts of the trailer!!! I'm sure there's others who agree.

CaptainRAVE
02-08-2002, 03:35 PM
I liked it, but from the video it was difficult to see what it is like. In the matrix they run and use their momentum, but Kyle seemed to walk along, I expected the wall jump to move a little quicker than that. But I like it anyway :)

Lord Slart
02-08-2002, 03:37 PM
I totally agree I think the content of the trailer was awsome but I also agree with PS2maddenman that the quality of the trailer could have been better. I mean they could have made a full screen high res version that would look as it would if you had the game on your pc. Now THAT would have been cool. I loved what the trailer showed though but longer and clearer/crisper would have made a good trailer into a completely unforgettable one. It just didn't stand out as a Star wars trailer for me. Not like when in the cinema and the theme music starts at the beggining of the Episode 2 trailer. You could have heard a pin drop in that cinema and my stomach was tossing and turning and my heart was pounding I don't think I blinked for the whole trailer. Now that was a trailer. I just didn't get that from this trailer. There was no stomach churning thrill but saying that it did it's job and made me want the game even more.

Sithcloak
02-08-2002, 03:39 PM
I have annoucment! I know you have been thinking this and dreading but this isn't a game! It is one of the shortest, and best of the Star Wars movies ever to be released!

J/K

But I am serious. One of the first thoughts that came to my mind at the very biginnig with the two sith who do the flips is "This is not a game, this is one of the best Star Wars movies ever made!"
This game, like many of the above have stated, is going to be awsome! I don't know what some of you are complaining about but this is the best game EVER CREATED. PERIOD. For now untill JO II ...

The only thing I am worried about, but I'm sure has already been handled is are a few of my thoughts on balance. What I mean is choke, disruptor, and most of all the lightsaber.

But with that already taken care of, the first thing I do when I get my hands on any version of it is just swing that saber about a million times!

As already said by me and others I end my little speach with this.

THIS GAME IS GOING TO BE AWSOME.

Sithcloak

TheJackal
02-08-2002, 03:39 PM
Did anybody else see the ion cannon? Look closely at the right when Kyle is in that turret. You see a big round thing fire a blue laser towards the sky. ... well you do see it before you explode :p

Everything else looks great except one thing. Why does Jan Ors (that girl shooting) look like she's not even trying. She is just standing there shooting like crazy on that stormtrooper (who does a weird back flip).

I know it was onle 2 or 3 seconds long, but I hope she doesn't do that all game. Stand... fire... walk... stand... fire... walk, etc

T-Dogg
02-08-2002, 03:49 PM
Damn. Just keep releasing screenshots little by little, a little concept art now and then, a movie almost 2 months before release... We'll all go mad if this is kept up! (I know I will.) AAAARRRGGHH!!!

lonepadawan
02-08-2002, 04:07 PM
Yeah I saw the ion cannon- and for the second time you do NOT explode- a rocket merely hits the turret.

CaptainRAVE
02-08-2002, 04:13 PM
I thought it was a new gun :rolleyes:.........nice turret then....also a nice status bar on the bottom left :)

Wacky_Baccy
02-08-2002, 07:27 PM
Strangely for me, I actually agree with all of the comments on this 3rd page (I forget what the first two said :D)

Especially with this bit posted by Sithcloak -

One of the first thoughts that came to my mind at the very beginning with the two Sith who do the flips is "This is not a game, this is one of the best Star Wars movies ever made!"

That's exactly what I thought when I first saw it! ...despite the low quality :eek:

toms
02-08-2002, 07:56 PM
pretty cool.

it is annoying to have to download a trailer on a slow connection to find out half of it is intro/outro though :(

have they changed teh disruptor effect from EF? infact, have they changed it from Klingon Honour Guard? actually i remember that as being better... you got to see their underlying muscles as they were eaten away...

wall walk looked fine to me... better than some of the other animation in fact.

only bit i was worried about was all those enemies flipping and flying all over the place... it seemed a bit overdone and they seemed to get thrown a hell of a long way when being hit by the saber... or was force push involved too?

otherwise... yeah :D

Indy4
02-08-2002, 08:07 PM
at 27 seconds when that girl that i think is JAn shoots a stormtrooper and he flips backwords and dies.

asome!!!!!!!

SEYA

Indy4
02-08-2002, 08:10 PM
at 49 seconds what is happening to that guy???

SEYA

Wacky_Baccy
02-08-2002, 10:52 PM
He (the Gran) is being disintegrated by the shot Kyle just fired at him with the aid of the Tenloss Disruptor Rifle (http://www.lucasarts.com/products/outcast/html/weapons_disruptor.html)'s über-cool built-in scope :D

GonkH8er
02-08-2002, 11:54 PM
Yeah, it is Jan

Pogwaffle
02-09-2002, 12:08 AM
The trailer showed excactly what we need to see. The way it is helps us to appreciate the game more when it comes out (or if the demo comes out).

I am satisfied for the next minute. I WANT MORE I TELL YOU ARRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

sorry my dark side crept in for a small moment.

SaGE_Xagatyn
02-09-2002, 05:24 AM
To bad the trailer was short and low res. I'd really like to see some saber moves in high quality. But no matter, the game looks sweet. :lsduel:

CaptainRAVE
02-09-2002, 05:32 AM
*A little off topic, but have you seen all the views this thread has had in abotu two days.......1800+ :D sweet

X-Vector
02-09-2002, 07:35 AM
Originally posted by Wacky_Baccy
Strangely for me, I actually agree with all of the comments on this 3rd page


Are you sure?

Darth Lunatic
02-09-2002, 07:51 AM
OK that trailer was what we call a teaser trailer. All your complaints about wanting to see more of the game, is exactly what Lucasarts/Raven wanted. That must have been the aim of this trailer. Show us enough, but leave us wanting more, a lot more.

CaptainRAVE
02-09-2002, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by Darth Lunatic
but leave us wanting more, a lot more.

Well I want loads more........but they could start by giving us a demo :)

Darth Lunatic
02-09-2002, 08:27 AM
Don't worry Rave, i don't think we'll be waiting too much longer..

Ushgarak
02-09-2002, 08:47 AM
The dropped sabre (unless it was a severed hand) was very neat.

CaptainRAVE
02-09-2002, 08:56 AM
Well it either got knocked out of the Dark Jedis hand.....or that Jedi dissapeared. Maybe in the story there are a few Dark Jedi, Like a small army, and Kyle has to stop their production. It really did look like that Jedi Dissappeared. Either that or he dropped it and then did a backward flip :), it also stayed on for a while which was quite neat :)

Eternity
02-09-2002, 08:58 AM
Very, very cool.

Wall walk: good stuff.

CaptainRAVE
02-09-2002, 09:01 AM
Welcome to the forums Eternity :newbie:...........go HERE (http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31976&pagenumber=2) for the wall walk thread :)

Eternity
02-09-2002, 09:10 AM
Thank ye, Cap't Rave. ;)

TUS_Tomcat
02-09-2002, 09:24 AM
Maybe in the story there are a few Dark Jedi, Like a small army



From the Tosti interview, part 4:




Reborn, people who have low level force powers and wield lightsabres against you. They're not boss quality, not that tough, but allows for some melee combat in the middle of missions.



hope i didnt anger someone by quoting that here?!?

CaptainRAVE
02-09-2002, 09:27 AM
Thanks for that. At least now I know why there are always so many lightsaber wielding enemies......should make the game interesting :)......a little like the sith statues from MotS :D

GonkH8er
02-09-2002, 09:30 AM
He died. thats why he dropped his saber. he died and flipped back in the process. His saber fell to the ground, still on, spun around, then went off.

:D one of my favourite bits, coz then kyle does a hammer throw style spin round to intercept the other one (who doesnt look like the other dark jedis. anyone care to explain what he is?)

CaptainRAVE
02-09-2002, 09:34 AM
I noticed that when people die they flip back........unless vaporised.....look at time index 0:33 where Kyle is in some kind of library and that enemy flips back :D

TUS_Tomcat
02-09-2002, 09:43 AM
Maybe the he is a she!@?

it's one of my fav parts too gonkh8er, the one he kilsl, saber falling down, and then the turn around intercepting just in time

It's like the movies!

And, also, it asnwers a question i had a while ago, dont know if i ever posted it (probably not)

but my question was, will you be able to do Lightsaber moves, in which Kyle spins around but the camera doesnt spin with him, just like here,

see, if that wasnt possible, you'd have to turn Kyle around manually and the camera would o more than a 180. But, it IS implemented, as this part of the video proves.


yippee!

lol :)

GonkH8er
02-09-2002, 09:45 AM
Same thing with the ST jan kills..

TUS_Tomcat
02-09-2002, 10:07 AM
but he doesnt seem to fly back so far, he flips in palce, i htought that looked awesome....


Doesnt matter too much to me, as long as they die ! :)

CaptainRAVE
02-09-2002, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by GonkH8er
Same thing with the ST jan kills..


Thats Jan?? I thought it was some other pilot helping him......that is one time in the trailer where the quality gets very bad indeed :( :eek:

Oreckel
02-09-2002, 11:08 AM
Did anyone notice that the crosshair MOVES? :eek: http://proboards3.com/boardimages/cheesy.gif
SWEET!

You can see it the easiest during the wall run, but keep an eye on it on the rest of the trailer :)

CaptainRAVE
02-09-2002, 11:11 AM
I didnt notice that.......but indeed it does. It seems to track an enemy, maybe there is a button where you can switch between enemies for it to track. There must be a reason though :confused:

Agen
02-09-2002, 11:13 AM
Great trailer and every second is great thoguh kyle used to be a bit chubbier and wak differently other wise it's great :Di figured it was jan.. jsut bad quality and not facing u.

CaptainRAVE
02-09-2002, 11:16 AM
Welcome back Agen_Terminator after your long absence :)

Darth Lunatic
02-09-2002, 11:54 AM
kyle used to be a bit chubbier and wak differently

Are you talking about Kyle the actor who played him in Jedi knight? Or the 3d model and animation? Because i thought it looked fine.

I love it when Kyle locks sabers with enemies!! THATS SICK!

The Sage Continues!! BRILLIANT!! Very Episode 2'ish.

Agen
02-09-2002, 12:04 PM
Welcome back Agen_Terminator after your long absence
I thought everyone hated me? Told you i'd be back.

Are you talking about Kyle the actor who played him in Jedi knight? Or the 3d model and animation?
both, the old one had a big more chest muscles and a bit thicker. not much differencwe though.

CaptainRAVE
02-09-2002, 12:36 PM
He definatly looks thinner in JK2.......but if thats all we can find wrong with it then it must be a great game........He'll also look different when we actally play the game :D

Skyrunner
02-09-2002, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by CaptainRAVE
I didnt notice that.......but indeed it does. It seems to track an enemy, maybe there is a button where you can switch between enemies for it to track. There must be a reason though :confused:

That's probably just an auto-aim function, like in JK1, only the crosshairs didn't move there. The crosshairs in Rainbow Six automatically locks on to enimies.

StarScrap
02-09-2002, 04:24 PM
About the "ion cannon": I have nothing to back this up, but I'm of the opinion that it has something to do with those "meteors" we keep seeing.

About the guy that drops his saber: I don't know what time this is at, since i don't have the downloadable version, but my guess is 45 or 50 secs into it. Anyway, I just went through the battle where the guy drops his saber frame by frame and noticed a couple of interesting things.

First, his saber isn't visable for two frames before he gets hit. Probably inconsequential, caused by the poor quality of the video. Secondly, when he gets hit he seems to fade a bit, and an expanding (noticable after the next block) cloud of black stuff apears. The guy that just got hit goes backward into the darkness and fades out a little. He goes back FAST. Then, from the light of the block a few frames later you see him upside down over the (water?) with his head pointing towards kyle and his feet falling. Then the light fades and he's a dim blotch again.

This would seem to be from simple bad physics if it weren't for that black cloud that takes his place. As it is I am inclined to beleive that it has something to do with the force.

TUS_Tomcat
02-09-2002, 04:30 PM
StarScrap, look around in your temporary internet files folder, there will be afile called trailer.mov in there somewhere, copy it out of it to another directory and you have it :)



also,

if you wanna see more movie / game weirdness, go to the moment where hes shooting at the AT...use the arrow keys to go as slow as possible, and watch where the Tie Fighter comes, watch in the frame when it JUST appears, doesnt look like a Tie at all, then one arrow press, it turns into a tie

StarScrap
02-09-2002, 04:43 PM
And there's another of our lovely meteors. Also, look closely as the TIE gets near the AT-ST. It almost looks to me like it actually runs into it. As soon as it disapears by the AT-ST a little explosion apears at the top joint of the leg. But that might be behind it.

Saaayyy....do you suppose our meteors are downed TIEs? Naaahhh.

TUS_Tomcat
02-09-2002, 04:50 PM
No thats the yellow tracer from Kyles puny gun just scratching the AT ST

Wacky_Baccy
02-09-2002, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by X-Vector
Posted by Wacky_Baccy

Strangely for me, I actually agree with all of the comments on this 3rd page
Are you sure?
No. You have my apologies :)

The one comment I don't agree with on that page is this:
Posted by X-Vector

I don't particularly like the design of that rifle anyway...
As I said in another thread, (probably dead now) I really ilke the disign of the Disrupror Rifle - it looks quite a bit like the one in Starship Troopers, and that's good, IMO :)