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ZeroXcape
02-11-2002, 05:50 PM
http://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/finger.pl?id=1&time=20020211165445

Check out what Carmack has to say... it'll save you money when Doom comes around ;)

digl
02-11-2002, 05:58 PM
On the topic of current Nvidia cards:

Do not buy a GeForce4-MX for Doom.

Nvidia has really made a mess of the naming conventions here. I always
thought it was bad enough that GF2 was just a speed bumped GF1, while GF3 had
significant architectural improvements over GF2. I expected GF4 to be the
speed bumped GF3, but calling the NV17 GF4-MX really sucks.

GF4-MX will still run Doom properly, but it will be using the NV10 codepath
with only two texture units and no vertex shaders. A GF3 or 8500 will be
much better performers. The GF4-MX may still be the card of choice for many
people depending on pricing, especially considering that many games won't use
four textures and vertex programs, but damn, I wish they had named it
something else.

As usual, there will be better cards available from both Nvidia and ATI by the
time we ship the game.

Thats the most important (and less technical) part of the update

Millions o' Monkeys
02-12-2002, 12:01 AM
it was a waste of time and money this time for nvidia

GUNNER
02-12-2002, 01:03 AM
Why does it have to be so confusing..:confused:

Darth_Lando
02-12-2002, 08:47 AM
Talk about confusing hehe Best Buy's web site erroneously listed the GeForce4 Ti 4600 Graphics Card at $129.99 when it shoudl have been $399.99.

The Anandtech hot deals forums went nuts over this last week.

Of course best Buy pulled the ad and emailed all preorders that the price would not be honored.

:(

thrEEpaGe
02-13-2002, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by Millions o' Monkeys
it was a waste of time and money this time for nvidia


oh please....the geforce4mxs are not made to be the best 3d accelerators you can buy.....THEY ARE FOR OEMS!...they are simply a way for nvidia to spread out their domination of the market....ati used to have a hold on the oem market, and with the 4 mx's, they will be shipping them into oem pcs soon, and that will hurt ati very much....

they will gain money from this, even though the geforce4 mx is nothing more than a geforce2 speedup....

txa1265
02-13-2002, 01:35 PM
I am wondering where the mobile market will go next ... my Dell has the GeForce2GO chipset, quite nice for RtCW and MoH:AA (not to mention JK / MotS at 1600 x 1200), and new ones have ATi's new mobile chipset ... I wonder how that does, and when nVidia will have another bump ...

StormHammer
02-13-2002, 04:38 PM
Hmmm...that ATI Radeon 8500 looks a bit more promising every day. Good to see that Carmack mentions support for it in Doom 3. A bit more driver tweaking, and I might be considering that card. I certainly won't be looking at a GF4 any time soon...maybe not for 12-18 months. Unless, of course, money starts growing on trees... :rolleyes:

acdcfanbill
02-15-2002, 02:38 AM
i wonder... why does the GF3 have full DirectX 8 support, but the GF4 MX doesnt?? hmm, maybe ATI has nVidia shaken in their boots?? :evil3:

GUNNER
02-15-2002, 02:52 AM
Originally posted by Darth_Lando
Talk about confusing hehe Best Buy's web site erroneously listed the GeForce4 Ti 4600 Graphics Card at $129.99 when it shoudl have been $399.99.

The Anandtech hot deals forums went nuts over this last week.

Of course best Buy pulled the ad and emailed all preorders that the price would not be honored.

:(

Those Anandtech boys don't miss a trick do they. I bet the Hotdeals forum was full to capacity with people looking to snag one of those up.;)