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GonkH8er
02-16-2002, 10:28 PM
Everyone look at this....

http://www.massassi.net/jk2/pcgameruk_4.jpg

Does this look like bespin mining station to anyone else?



Well thats what it looks like to me. An uncanny resemblance to the main room in the original bespin with the 4 doors, leading to 4 elevators, 2 up, 2 down. notice the red lights above the far door. Red and green (green?) lights indicated the up and down-ness of the elevators in the original map.

Perhaps they've redone the map exactly, or done a variation on it.

Oh, and the other massassi screens are good too :)

Sturmgewehr
02-16-2002, 10:38 PM
Nice screenshots. And nice dodge Kyle.

dazilla
02-16-2002, 10:45 PM
yeah, great observation

GonkH8er
02-16-2002, 10:55 PM
Hrmmm well I just went and played bespin. It's not as similar as I thought....

Bother.. :)

Moses
02-16-2002, 10:59 PM
heh. It does look quite like the old one though Gonk. I want to know who the other guy is in the saber fighting one. The first guy is the Dark Jedi we've been seeing all along, but who is the other guy. I don't recognize him. Could he be one of your AI buds in the game?

Raze
02-16-2002, 11:05 PM
Bespin? Nah, that doesn't look like it.. It more reminded me of mission 9 (?) of JK :) .

The shot labeled '8' shows off some cool level architecture.. and the player's animations look smooth (I am not saying that you could judge animation by a shot but they just look cool, ok??).

Darth Lunatic
02-17-2002, 01:51 AM
http://www.massassi.net/jk2/pcgameruk_8.jpg

Nice picture. Must be on Yavin 4 right?

Jimi-Wan
02-17-2002, 02:22 AM
Yavin 4 is what it looks like to be. As for who that guy is, i have no clue.

TUS_Tomcat
02-17-2002, 03:40 AM
that first picture reminds me of the jedi knight demo level, dont know what number it had in the final version

Broode
02-17-2002, 03:45 AM
lol, its interesting you say that Tomcat, because the Bespin mining station and mission 9 Fuelling station were both demo levels... Did you mean SP or MP demo level?

GonkH8er
02-17-2002, 04:18 AM
if you're talking the MP level, then thats bespin, what im talkin about

CaptainRAVE
02-17-2002, 04:21 AM
Well all these shots are the ones out of the magazine anyway, apart from the one with the two jedi with blue lightsabers.....so nothing much new for me........

StephenG
02-17-2002, 04:21 AM
OMG! OMG! the pony tail hair guy/girl/it/etc is still there :) i remember seeing the pony tail hair guy/girl/it/etc in the early screens of JK2!

TUS_Tomcat
02-17-2002, 05:49 AM
no i meant SP, the refuel station...

if i remember correctly, it had this big cylinder like thing in the middle, with several levels of walkways circling around it,

and if you look in the pic, its like you're on one of the walkways with another aove you, and to the right there is (off screen) the center of the "circle" where the big fuel tank or whatever it was is...

too bad i dont have JK anymore, id take screens...

anyone know if theres a fast mirror of the JK demo still up somewhere?

GonkH8er
02-17-2002, 05:59 AM
The circles a LOT bigger than that :)


oh, and the dark jedi is a guy, with a ponytail.

TUS_Tomcat
02-17-2002, 06:12 AM
Size may be different, but it REMINDED me of it :) not saying its a clone lol


and you do know, "Size matters not"

The screenshot level says:


"Judge me by size do you, hmmm?"

CaptainRAVE
02-17-2002, 06:38 AM
Well it does remind me of the bespin mining station and they did say it would be a location.....so maybe :)

Jeedii_zaarinn
02-17-2002, 07:06 AM
that one with the two people fighting has to be multiplayer other wise that the end boss has a blue lightsaber and feels like training at the jedi academy

Broode
02-17-2002, 07:25 AM
It could be those practicing Jedi at the Jedi Academy that we've heard so much about. I'm greatly looking forward to that scene. Hopefully Luke will take us on a tour before we start our training, and we see Jedi practicing force powers (maybe a scripted event where we look onto the 'beginner' room, and see a whole bunch of potential Jedi trying to move things with the force - and failing :) (or maybe one that tries too hard pulls something right into him, sending him catapulting across the room :D )), and other Jedi sparring or in a workshop, constructing their lightsabers for their final test. Or wearing a blindfold and trying to deflect shots from a remote. You know, general stuff you think a training Jedi would get up to.

Agen
02-17-2002, 07:55 AM
Yes size is the difference but otherwise it looks to be bespin. also in the new movie that definately is a level in sp jk. rembember and undeneath is bacta tanks and a few barrels to blow up!!! it is it is. play jk again and u will realise that. and also in the demo at e3 does that place not look like were u killed that big tortoise thing in sp?

ps2maddenman
02-17-2002, 08:55 AM
http://www.massassi.net/jk2/pcgameruk_7.jpg


I like this one the best

nykel007
02-17-2002, 09:47 AM
I thought the ponytail he/she/it was evil. Anyway, the pics look extreme. good can't wait for the game. It is def. Yavin 4 and I hope we get to spar with a couple of the Jedi at the Acd. before we leave.

Vagabond
02-17-2002, 10:15 AM
I like the look of the <a href="http://www.massassi.net/jk2/pcgameruk_1.jpg" target="_blank">X-wing</a> here, but the rear landing gear are in the wrong place. They're supposed to extend from the inside of the "intake nozzel". They appear to be just off-center toward the center of the fuselage instead. Small detail, but it bothers me. I put together one of the large, detailed X-Wing models, so I'm fairly familiar where all the parts are supposed to be.

But I love the look of the R5 droid...looks dead on!

CaptainRAVE
02-17-2002, 11:05 AM
And we get to control the droids :D

Lord_FinnSon
02-17-2002, 01:08 PM
Nice picture. Must be on Yavin 4 right?
Yeah, probably. Those floor and wall textures look really great, and if I'm correct, this screen is first one which shows us two different stances out of three available in final game; I might also be wrong and this screen has been captured while they are still performing some saber move. Still, we haven't seen too many screens where opponents are only posing with their sabers and this is my personal favorite; shadows also add so much more depth into it. :thumbsup:

ps2maddenman
02-17-2002, 01:19 PM
http://www.massassi.net/jk2/pcgameruk_2.jpg


I also like the detail in this Rodian model.

CaptainRAVE
02-17-2002, 01:39 PM
Its just a shame there arent more skins :(

Eternity
02-17-2002, 02:57 PM
Yavin 4 is what it looks like to be. As for who that guy is, i have no clue.

Might be Luke.

CaptainRAVE
02-17-2002, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by Eternity
Might be Luke.

Or another potential Jedi.

X-Vector
02-17-2002, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by Lord_FinnSon
shadows also add so much more depth into it.


I agree, shadows are more important than most people realise, they add to character realism and 'solidity'.
This is why the inconsistent appearance of this feature in the new screenshots irks me a bit; we get full shadows in the 'ponytail' shot, a (very) faint blob shadow in the Rodian pic and none whatsoever under the X-Wing - stationary objects require no shadows?
Is this inconsistency to blame on the unfinished nature of the build that was used to take the shots from?

Hannibal
02-17-2002, 03:28 PM
Anyone notice the beautiful scorch mark left on the ground by the pony tail guy? I think the first time I play the game I'll get killed a lot looking at the scenery and the scorch marks.

Lord_FinnSon
02-17-2002, 03:52 PM
Is this inconsistency to blame on the unfinished nature of the build that was used to take the shots from?
Perhaps partially. Many of the shots we have already seen have been taken from different builds and I remember that some Raven developer sayed there was problems with these Quake 3 tencil shadows when they were applied like you can see in this screen (http://www.lucasarts.com/products/outcast/images/screens/49.jpg). He didn't say though, will they try to correct them somehow or just publish the game with another form of shadowing like those blobs as default.

Executor32
02-17-2002, 07:28 PM
Originally posted by Vagabond
I like the look of the <a href="http://www.massassi.net/jk2/pcgameruk_1.jpg" target="_blank">X-wing</a> here, but the rear landing gear are in the wrong place. They're supposed to extend from the inside of the "intake nozzel". They appear to be just off-center toward the center of the fuselage instead. Small detail, but it bothers me. I put together one of the large, detailed X-Wing models, so I'm fairly familiar where all the parts are supposed to be.

But I love the look of the R5 droid...looks dead on!

You know, I e-mailed Raven about that months ago, when I first saw the other shot with the X-Wing in it. I'm surprised they didn't do anything about it. :confused:

darthfergie
02-17-2002, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by Hannibal
Anyone notice the beautiful scorch mark left on the ground by the pony tail guy? I think the first time I play the game I'll get killed a lot looking at the scenery and the scorch marks.

Dang you!!!

Now it will be all your fault if I can't beat the first level because I start glancing at scenery and looking and the choped up wall and the charred ashes and curious welding jobs done by my lightsaber...

Hannibal
02-18-2002, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by darthfergie


Dang you!!!

Now it will be all your fault if I can't beat the first level because I start glancing at scenery and looking and the choped up wall and the charred ashes and curious welding jobs done by my lightsaber...

You think the scenery gonna hold us back? Wait till we see other Jedi(with there lightsabers and force powers) fighting in the background.

*drools*

db6
02-18-2002, 11:08 PM
Anyone notice the "blocks" as the outlines of the figures of the stormtrooper and the Rodian? I wonder if they will be removed in the final version?

db6

Elendil
02-19-2002, 03:34 AM
:eek:

Amazing.

Naphtali
02-19-2002, 04:22 AM
Originally posted by Executor32
Originally posted by Vagabond
I like the look of the X-wing here, but the rear landing gear are in the wrong place. They're supposed to extend from the inside of the "intake nozzel". They appear to be just off-center toward the center of the fuselage instead. Small detail, but it bothers me. I put together one of the large, detailed X-Wing models, so I'm fairly familiar where all the parts are supposed to be.


You know, I e-mailed Raven about that months ago, when I first saw the other shot with the X-Wing in it. I'm surprised they didn't do anything about it. :confused:


If its not a big deal then it will likely stay at very low priorty, unless they have some spare time, but since their trying to get it out in march 2 to 6 weeks those minor problems may be fixed iof nothing remotely bigger arrives

Tap[RR]
02-19-2002, 05:40 AM
Originally posted by db6
Anyone notice the "blocks" as the outlines of the figures of the stormtrooper and the Rodian? I wonder if they will be removed in the final version?

db6


Umm.... anyone can fix that, with a good video card, just need to turn on FSAA.

DarkJediCB
02-20-2002, 01:45 AM
These pics are GREAT!!! I really can't wait for this game!!!



:sithm: :dsaber:

Wacky_Baccy
02-20-2002, 09:07 AM
Originally posted by DarkJediCB
I really can't wait for this game!!!
...Not many of us can... ;)

Welcome to the forums, DarkJedi - make yourself at home, and enjoy your stay :)

Agen
02-20-2002, 09:23 AM
Welcome DarkJediCB, Have a newbie's Spoon Replica Gift

ElitePootZ
02-20-2002, 10:00 AM
Haha!

*continues eating chocolate jedi that I got a few days ago*

Yummmm...

Agen
02-20-2002, 10:11 AM
Mere Chocolate does not match up to the pwoer of a spoon which helps me take over all the minds of one who takes it muhuwhahnaah-ah..a-hhhh..... err.... bye

Also what happened to gift baskets. I still want to booby trap them. :D

Jinn Tar-Nesh
02-20-2002, 10:13 AM
Ekhm...WHAT'S WITH THE SPOON PLEEEAAAASEEEEE!!!!

Eternity
02-20-2002, 11:11 AM
Watch the Matrix and find out.

thrEEpaGe
02-20-2002, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by Tap[RR]



Umm.... anyone can fix that, with a good video card, just need to turn on FSAA.


and even w/o fsaa, on higher resolutions or in deathmatch, no one gives a.... well lets just say that fluid graphics are the last thing on your mind as you are chasing someone down a corridor or sniping....

The_One
02-20-2002, 01:07 PM
If you have read the PC ZONE preview (March 2002), they daid that Raven have converted some of the levels from Jedi Knight and done them up for Outcast. If this is true, which I'm sure it is, (why would they lie?) then I suspect that this shot may well be Bespin Mining Station. If that has been converted then I really hope that levels such as Canyon Oasis are in there too :)

Agen
02-20-2002, 01:26 PM
It's the Multiplayer levels but also activision made a mistake as theree aren't any SP levels being reused. But Locationsd such as Nar Shaddaa yeh.

CaptainRAVE
02-20-2002, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by The_One
If you have read the PC ZONE preview (March 2002), they daid that Raven have converted some of the levels from Jedi Knight and done them up for Outcast. If this is true, which I'm sure it is, (why would they lie?) then I suspect that this shot may well be Bespin Mining Station. If that has been converted then I really hope that levels such as Canyon Oasis are in there too :)

Well I dont remember reading that. But they did say there would be all of the Star Wars locations included AND EVERY lightsaber battle location which includes my favourite CLOUD CITY GANTRY :D.......there are also chopping off of hands mentioned, cant see where that fits into JK2 though....heh, maybe its a bonus level :D