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JEDI OUTCAST
02-24-2002, 07:06 AM
do we all think that msn gaming zone will put jedi outcast on because i hope so play like on the trailer that is going to be cool

JediDante
02-24-2002, 07:19 AM
I really don't think so! It will prob have Gamespy support, and it's own bulit in server list to join from the game.

JediDante
02-24-2002, 07:20 AM
By the way! Do you play SBX on the zone?

Redwing
02-24-2002, 07:22 AM
I believe it has been hinted they will have Zone support.

JediDante
02-24-2002, 07:23 AM
Really??
If so I think to some point it would be cool!
but not really when I can just use Gamespy arcade

The Truthful Liar
02-24-2002, 08:04 AM
There is a 50/50 percent Chance that JK2 will be supported on Zone, but...

I DOUBT IT!! :D

You await a new gaming world, pHeAr Us...

Oh, btw - I play JK1 on the zone :) AB_Legion is my nick...

Cheers ;)

The Truthful Liar
02-24-2002, 08:08 AM
Hey, Welcome to the JK2.net forums JEDI OUTCAST :D

*Me steals you a choclate medallion from Storm Hammer*

There you go and happy posting :)

Cheers ;)

JaGReiKo
02-24-2002, 06:55 PM
The zone sucks, its to laggy and so dumb having to d/l all that new update ****, its not worth it.

Qel
02-24-2002, 06:59 PM
2 words...Gamespy(arcade) sucks...

Its been confirmed that there will be a in-game server
browser......which is really cool.

Check it out...part of the official FAQ

4.01 What kind of multiplayer server options will Jedi Outcast have?
Jedi Outcast players will be able to use the standard Quake III-type in-game browser to find games online, start their own servers for online play, and create private servers to play with friends/clans, etc. We are still in the development process and are investigating all server options. It's quite possible that additional gaming services, including the Zone, will be supported

Qel

B0MBER II
02-24-2002, 07:01 PM
It'll be on the Zone


ALL Star Wars games that have multiplayer have been on the zone so why not this one?

Bio Warrior
02-24-2002, 07:08 PM
who really cares about crappy zone we will have an ingame browser

MadQuack
02-24-2002, 07:10 PM
I'm glad we'll probably have the benefit of an ingame browser. I'm not to fond of the Zone anymore. Or Gamespy, for that matter.

Bio Warrior
02-24-2002, 07:11 PM
well the ingame browser has been confirmed

DeathBoLT
02-24-2002, 07:40 PM
i hope it has an ingame mirc access.. that was really useful in UT..

Emon
02-24-2002, 07:43 PM
It's highly unlikely there will be Zone support. The Zone isn't made for dedicated servers, like Q3, JK2, RtCW, Half-Life, Elite Force, etc., it's just not in their software, and I'm sure they won't add it. Besides, they don't have support for any other Q3 based games, they probably won't for this. It's not up to Raven or LEC, it's up to Microsoft.

GameSpy is okay. JK2 is on their supported games list, but it'll be like any other Q3 based game they have there, meaning it just lets your browse servers via GameSpy instead of through the game itself.

Zodiac
02-24-2002, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by B0MBER II
It'll be on the Zone


ALL Star Wars games that have multiplayer have been on the zone so why not this one?

cuz this is the first SW game that'll use an engine which uses dedicated servers.

WD_ToRMeNt
02-25-2002, 07:38 PM
Bah, who would want to play on the zone where you're gonna have 56kers trying to host when you can use the ingame browser and play on dedicated server running off a t1.

Wilhuf
02-25-2002, 07:54 PM
Atually the Zone does support dedicated servers. The Zone lists MechWarrior4 dedicated servers for example. I wouldn't rule out Zone support for Outcast. Yet.

DeathBoLT
02-25-2002, 10:49 PM
the way the zone regulates the chat is probably the worst part..

Raze
02-26-2002, 12:49 PM
To all those dedicated server-happies, how are you going to participate in a 1on1 saber tourney? I'd rather use the zone above some ip-exchange in an irc room...

Kurgan
02-26-2002, 01:06 PM
Quake2 had Zone support (it was just a really tiny community, compared to off the zone).

The Zone sucks.. I agree. But as long as it's free, and it's not the only option, I have no problem with it being there.

I hope the in-game browser is better than the vanilla Quake3 one...

I'm sure Qtracker will add support once the game is out. ; )

As to one on one saber tournies, those will be a snap on public servers with the "arena" type modules (much like rocket arena in other FPS games, or Arena mode in Rune/HOV).

I think even if the Zone was supported, I would never use it. I'd use the in-game browser until a better external program came out (like Qtracker), and then post/check favorites from the LucasGamesNetwork servers (which I'm sure will happen once the game is out) and setup the occasional LAN/IP private game.

Zodiac
02-26-2002, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by Wilhuf
Atually the Zone does support dedicated servers. The Zone lists MechWarrior4 dedicated servers for example. I wouldn't rule out Zone support for Outcast. Yet.

I went to the Zone sysop help room and the Zone technical help room for this. Both sysops who helped me said it wasnt true. :( Zone has no support for dedicated servers (...yet...).

Wilhuf
02-26-2002, 09:19 PM
Zodiac, those ops didnt have their facts straight. Zone (http://zone.msn.com/allegiance/start.asp) supported dedicated servers starting with Allegiance. You can download the Allegiance dedicated server software directly from Microsoft (http://download.microsoft.com/download/allegiance/Utility/1.0/W98/EN-US/SrvSetup.exe).

Gotta love such professional advice coming out of the Zone.

The registered version of Gamespy3D (not gamespy Arcade) has a rather cool feature. It will help you and your game buddies find the 'mutually best' ping to a dedicated game server. It compares the pings of collections of players and finds the best overall server ping for all players in the collection.

Bowen
02-26-2002, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by Qel
2 words...Gamespy(arcade) sucks...

Its been confirmed that there will be a in-game server
browser......which is really cool.

Check it out...part of the official FAQ

4.01 What kind of multiplayer server options will Jedi Outcast have?
Jedi Outcast players will be able to use the standard Quake III-type in-game browser to find games online, start their own servers for online play, and create private servers to play with friends/clans, etc. We are still in the development process and are investigating all server options. It's quite possible that additional gaming services, including the Zone, will be supported

Qel


Qel is correct.....JKO will have an in game browser that is definate but Raven said they are considering gaming sites as well.

brosser_1999
02-26-2002, 09:32 PM
The Zone was nothing but a hassle.
Lag, software updates, but once you get a good game
started its all worth it....:D

Belgirion
02-26-2002, 09:39 PM
the zone stinks like my butt...Im so glad they have an ingame server thingy

Andrewfus_SMC
02-26-2002, 10:45 PM
cheaters galore. most every game i was involved with on the zone would get some jerk cheater coming in just to screw up a game and leaving. dorks.

also, the clan that took it upon themselves to hang out in the mots asteroid and constantly troll and flame users they didnt know really kept the community down. i knew a lot of guys taht didnt want to go there and play because those guys were such jerks.

of course, it just made it that much sweeter when id hand them their butts in a duel;)

dedicated servers is the way to go. zone was fine for its time, but wanting to keep it is like clinging to windows 3.11. pointless.

the zone could have its moments, but once youve played halflife in a game with 32 other people, you never want to go back to just 4 people again:)

trust us, its gonna be fine.

Bowen
02-26-2002, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by Andrewfus_SMC
cheaters galore. most every game i was involved with on the zone would get some jerk cheater coming in just to screw up a game and leaving. dorks.

also, the clan that took it upon themselves to hang out in the mots asteroid and constantly troll and flame users they didnt know really kept the community down. i knew a lot of guys taht didnt want to go there and play because those guys were such jerks.

of course, it just made it that much sweeter when id hand them their butts in a duel;)

dedicated servers is the way to go. zone was fine for its time, but wanting to keep it is like clinging to windows 3.11. pointless.

the zone could have its moments, but once youve played halflife in a game with 32 other people, you never want to go back to just 4 people again:)

trust us, its gonna be fine.


I'd like to commit on cheating....my friend and I moded a game once and we cheated. It was fun for about two games but after that it was very boring. So for those of you who have never cheated, your not missing anything and I would ask that you not do it. It spoils it for others and it's not even fair to you as it cheapens the experience.

Zodiac
02-27-2002, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by Wilhuf
Zodiac, those ops didnt have their facts straight. Zone (http://zone.msn.com/allegiance/start.asp) supported dedicated servers starting with Allegiance. You can download the Allegiance dedicated server software directly from Microsoft (http://download.microsoft.com/download/allegiance/Utility/1.0/W98/EN-US/SrvSetup.exe).

Gotta love such professional advice coming out of the Zone.

The registered version of Gamespy3D (not gamespy Arcade) has a rather cool feature. It will help you and your game buddies find the 'mutually best' ping to a dedicated game server. It compares the pings of collections of players and finds the best overall server ping for all players in the collection.


ooooh. yeah.. i also had the idea those sysops didn't know what I was talking about.. :p

me: "does zone, or is zone going to support dedicated servers??"
sysop: "So you'd like to host a game?"

me: "umm no.. i just wanted to know if it'd be possible to join games that use dedicated servers"

sysop: "Every game runs on a server. When you host, you play on a server, and when you join you connect to a server too"

me: "ookaayy... I'm talking about dedicated servers.. like the ones they use in games like Counter Strike, Quake3, Unreal.."
sysop: "Yes."

me: "well.. is zone going to support dedicated servers, or do they already have support for it?"
sysop: "Like I said: You always end up on a server when playing a game, so you always have a server dedicated to the game. I hope this helps, bye"
*boot*

That was just a lil summary.. i talked to 2 sysops btw.they both didn't know what I was talking about.. so I concluded Zone wasnt ready for dedicated servers yet... but now Wilhuf's given me some stuff to think about... :D

Elendil
02-27-2002, 11:35 PM
Countless games have in game server lists, I don't see why Jedi Outcast wouldn't.

JediTACC
02-28-2002, 12:15 AM
Yes, I agree. The zone is a waste of time. I can't ever get into a game. Even on three different systems that my family has used over the years. I would rather use in-game support and not the zone. Have Raven save time coding in zone support and release the game just that musch sooner!

But what do I know.....

G-Ninja
02-28-2002, 04:03 AM
by the way, a server browser which is far better than Gamespy (and most likely the in-game browser), and which will hopefully have JK2 support, is All Seing Eye, available at http://www.udpsoft.com/eye/

L3onheart
02-28-2002, 05:13 AM
The All seeing eye rules!

I am pretty sure they will have JKII support since it's a Q3 engine based game.