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Ten-Forward
08-16-2001, 06:37 PM
Anyone seen any posts or ideas on this subject...Rushing is part of most RTS games..i know that i just wanna be ready!

Tie Guy
08-16-2001, 06:39 PM
Guard towers. Also, start making troops as soon as you can.

Lord JayVizIon
08-16-2001, 06:43 PM
set up defenses if you can also. if you've played starcraft and you went up against zergs, you know what i'm talking about.....

Audomadik
08-16-2001, 10:48 PM
The best defense against an early rush is solid scouting, and defensive building placement. If you prepare an early defense in Tl1, and your opponent rushes to Tl3, you are going to be greased up and bent over. By scouting your opponents resources, you can generally tell if he is planning an early rush, and you can prepare by walling defensivly or by building towers/a military of your own. Preemptive defense, is, in general, a very bad idea.. preparing for an attack that does not come will often cost you the game.

Master Yoda
08-16-2001, 11:07 PM
I like to rush to the last age,but I build walls about half way through to the last age,then build an army.
:x-wing: =====:tie:

darthfergie
08-16-2001, 11:07 PM
We disscussed this topic, but it was a LONG time ago so if you want to see what we said there to get ideas for here just go to this link

http://forums.galacticbattles.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=201

Ten-Forward
08-16-2001, 11:33 PM
An AT-AT Rush....this game is gonna rock!!

ZeroXcape
08-17-2001, 09:58 AM
Hehe... It'll be fun to see AT-AT's rushing... (although I'm sure they aren't the quickest units in the game :luke:)

Tie Guy
08-17-2001, 05:51 PM
Thats an understatement. I believe they are one of, if not the slowest unit in the game, but also one of the best armed, i'll take the firepower anyday, as long as they aren't too slow.

Lord JayVizIon
08-17-2001, 05:53 PM
yup, give them (AT-AT's) the firepower, and let other units take of the speed.

Ten-Forward
08-17-2001, 06:18 PM
Will there be snow-speeders with tow ropes??..good way to thwart an AT-AT rush!

Mitth'raw'nuruodo
08-17-2001, 07:17 PM
Yes, in fact thats the REbels UU. I'm not sure if there will be towcables, or not. Perhaps towcable could be an upgrade?

dvader07
08-17-2001, 07:39 PM
how do you know the rebel uu is a snow speeder. All I have seen is that it is a special Mech Destroyer unit. Those snow speeders weren't real effective against the AT-AT's in the battle of Hoth without the tow cables, so they don't sem like very good Mech Destroyers. imho :biggs:

darthfergie
08-17-2001, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by dvader07
how do you know the rebel uu is a snow speeder. All I have seen is that it is a special Mech Destroyer unit. Those snow speeders weren't real effective against the AT-AT's in the battle of Hoth without the tow cables, so they don't sem like very good Mech Destroyers. imho :biggs:

I was kind of thinking the same thing, I was hoping their UU was the B-Wing. That would work as a mech desroyer.:D

Mitth'raw'nuruodo
08-17-2001, 07:56 PM
Here just go to www.mrfixitonline.com/readPosting.asp?PostingId=485937 and scroll to the bottom under Unique Units to see for yourself! :p

darthfergie
08-17-2001, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by thrawn12786
Here just go to www.mrfixitonline.com/readPosting.asp?PostingId=485937 and scroll to the bottom under Unique Units to see for yourself! :p

I have known the Unique unit for a LONG time. I was just saying it would be cool if it was a B-wing.

dvader07
08-17-2001, 08:11 PM
I know that the rebel uu is an airspeeder, but it doesn't say it is the one from the battle of hoth.

Wedge
08-17-2001, 09:40 PM
Build walls, lots of walls, many walls, make the great wall of China look like your backyard fence...

Tie Guy
08-17-2001, 09:43 PM
Originally posted by dvader07
I know that the rebel uu is an airspeeder, but it doesn't say it is the one from the battle of hoth.

It is, Jay posted a screen from PC Gamer that had it in it a while ago. Plus, what other speeder is there, they all look the same, no matter where they are located.

Lord JayVizIon
08-17-2001, 09:44 PM
yeah, but i agree with audomadik. you should use scouts to check out a foe's resources and see what they're up to. you could be wasting resources on defenses when you should be using it on importang upgrades/units/buildings/tech levels, esp. if the foe is not an early rush type of guy.

Tie Guy
08-17-2001, 10:42 PM
I as playing on easy when i first got the game. I started to scout with my starting cavalry right away and found them. I then harassed their villagers until he gave up. It was like the quickest match ever. :D

Lord JayVizIon
08-17-2001, 10:53 PM
the force is strong with you tie...:cool:

Tie Guy
08-17-2001, 11:17 PM
Actually, i think it was just because it was on "easy"

madperm
08-20-2001, 01:16 AM
i cant wait to try out some of the strategyies i used in Starcarft on multiplayer missions :p hopefully they work in this too

i think rushing at the beginning has to be rationalized. a good thing to do is to scout, build up force like your gonna rush, wait for for the nme to spend all their money on defense and then keep moving up the tree your self. Defensive turrets and such are good, but troops that can stop the nme AND launch an attack is better. I like to rush, but sometimes you can fake rush and cause your nme to go beserk
:D

Thats when i have fun

Lord JayVizIon
08-20-2001, 03:23 AM
yeah, well the thing is that unlike starcraft where units were really unique, each unit and building is similar among the civs, so basically if you see something that looks like a turret, chances are it is a turret. thus, you'll have a general sense of what each unit in each civ does even if you haven't played with that civ yet. nonetheless, i want to see what the wookie rush is like:cool:

Tie Guy
08-20-2001, 04:10 PM
Yeah, a massive army of wookiee troopers should be quite intimidating.

And, i don't think that the units will be as similar as you think. I mean, if you've never played with the civ how are you too know one tank for the next, or from an upgraded one?

Lord JayVizIon
08-20-2001, 10:42 PM
well, if you've ever played starcraft, you'll know what i mean. also, pcgamer even stated that unit classes from each civ to the next won't be as separated from another civ. for example, in starcraft the basic terran grunt was a marine who had both air and ground attacks. the protoss have the zealot which only has ground effects. thus, what i meant was that you can have an idea or a prediction of what attack style a unit will have. i don't have any units to compare with for swgb so it makes it difficult to explain.

God
08-23-2001, 11:57 AM
destroyer driod rush would be hard to counter but not to early. beating of the rushes can be done by building cheap walls to slow them down so you can build an army.

Paragon_Leon
08-23-2001, 12:03 PM
...those are all pretty much the AOK-strategies.
I think those Wookiee-rushes and destroyer-droid rushes won't be as bad as people think. After all, what if those are units you can only build in the third tech level or something ?

We haven't actually seen the lower class units yet, come to think of it..

God
08-23-2001, 12:16 PM
yeh thats what i ment by not early. the droids won't come til 3 i think.

Audomadik
08-23-2001, 12:50 PM
and you'll need a fortress.

Admiral Odin
08-23-2001, 01:04 PM
To stop a rush, I would build walls, and scout both can be a great help. also walls are usualy cheap.