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Heavyarms
04-02-2002, 04:46 PM
Is there such a thing that exists? If so, is there one compatible with JO? If that is not what it is, I need a video card that can run with another video card at the same time, because there is no way to shut off my other video card.

Rogue15
04-02-2002, 04:56 PM
heavyarms, I was thinking last night, and now i think there *could* be a way....to shut off that one vid card....have you tried looking in CMOS yet? I think we have the same type of computer, so if you get help, I get help too. :D CMOS is F2 at startup i believe....don't mess with anything before writing down what you're going to change though. Don't want to see your computer get cooked.... :-/

Boba Rhett
04-02-2002, 05:59 PM
Are you sure there's no way? There's gotta be a way.... hmmmm....


Once you get the second one in, you should be able to specify what card is used. Then maybe you can just use the second one to run another monitor.

Havoc Stryphe
04-02-2002, 06:05 PM
I've done this before with a computer with a onboard video card, so listen closely:

First, install the new card, both physically and software wise

next, go into the control panel and go into "system"

goto video drivers and disable the old card in all profiles

Reboot

If there is still a problem, then go into the BIOS and disable it, but you shouldn't have to.

Heavyarms
04-02-2002, 07:44 PM
hey, havoc, can you give me some very specific instructions?

Boba Rhett
04-02-2002, 11:07 PM
How much more specific can he get? You want pictures or something? :D ;)

matt--
04-03-2002, 12:41 AM
You can't be specific without having your exact model CMOS.

It IS possible...I've done it before.

EDIT: or your OS version

Heavyarms
04-03-2002, 09:27 AM
I meant in the system folder thingy. I am sorry, I didn't see what he is talking about. Could just be me :)

Havoc Stryphe
04-03-2002, 10:55 AM
Heavyarms, what Operating System are you running? I need to know that first.

Afetr Installing the new card:

1. In the Control Panel, double click the "System" icon

2. then select the "Device Manager" tab.

3. Look down the list for "Display Adapters". There should at least be TWO different Adapters displayed there, the old On-baord video driver, and the new card you just installed. Select the old on-board video adapter and then click on the "properties" button.(You may have to right click on the Display adapter to bring up the menu to select "properties" from)

4. I'm at work right now, and I don't have Admin rights on my comp, so this next part is from memory, On one of the tabs at the top of the Display Adapter Properties window, either "General", "Driver" or "Resources" (I believe it's "General" though) There should be a check box that you can select, that says "Disable in all hardware Profiles" Check that box.

5. Hit "OK"

6. You should be prompted to reboot, if not reboot the computer anyways.

7. Your monitor and system should now be routed through the New Video card and drivers only. (You'll have to Move your Monitor cable to your new video card VGA out before rebooting)

8. If this doesn't work, then you will have to play around in your CMOS (BIOS), which will be alot more "Dangerous" to the stability of your computer, but can be done.

Hope that helps...

Heavyarms
04-03-2002, 02:00 PM
only one problem: there is no way to check mark to disable it. THat is why I asked about a bidirectional video card.

Rogue15
04-03-2002, 02:06 PM
Havoc, do u mean the option that is checked that says

'exists in all hardware profiles'? is that the one he's supposed to 'uncheck'?

Rogue15
04-03-2002, 02:10 PM
www.angelfire.com/extreme/atst/images/vidcard.jpg

heavyarms, do u see that checkbox when u click properties of the intel 810 whatever chipset?

edit: f-ing angelfire. :mad:

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

type that website in to see the picture i'm referring to... :rolleyes:

Heavyarms
04-03-2002, 02:13 PM
I am not at my comp right now. Havoc, will you be on at around 2:50 PM today for assistance?

Havoc Stryphe
04-03-2002, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by Rogue15
Havoc, do u mean the option that is checked that says

'exists in all hardware profiles'? is that the one he's supposed to 'uncheck'?

No, though I would uncheck that as well, but there is also an option to disable a display adapter, but Like I said I'm at work right now, so I don't have the admin rights to place exactly where that option is at.

Heavyarms, I will be around at three or so, chsk back around then, also, what Operating System are you using?

Heavyarms
04-03-2002, 02:22 PM
Windows 98.

Rogue15
04-03-2002, 02:25 PM
hehe i wonder what the 'remove' option would do...cuz i can't see a disable feature on mine either....

Heavyarms
04-03-2002, 02:27 PM
think long and hard rogue 15...

Havoc Stryphe
04-03-2002, 02:34 PM
The Problem With the "remove" option is that you can't physically remove his old on-board video card so as soon as you reboot the computer Windows Will detect the "new" card and reinstall the drivers again for the On-board video, that will get you nowhere quick, that's why you have to keep the card drivers installed, but just disable it.

The more I think about it though, (this was over a year ago I did this, and it was a friends computer, not my own) that "enable in all Hardware profiles" checkbox might be it, but I swear there is a way to disable it so that it appears on the device manager list with a over top of the display adapter's icon symbolizing it being disabled but still installed.

Havoc Stryphe
04-03-2002, 02:50 PM
Okay, Got it! Had a chat With our Resident Tech here at work.

You must have multiple Display adapters installed before Windows will allow you to disable one, But as soon as you install the new Video card there will be another box above the "Enable in all Hardware Profiles" box that will say "Disable this device" That is what you check off (On your On-board card of course, not the new one) From there on Windows will use the new card and drivers exclusively for all programs etc. I knew I was right! ;)

Heavyarms
04-03-2002, 06:06 PM
only one problem, havoc... there is no disable button... ask the resident tech what now...

Havoc Stryphe
04-03-2002, 06:08 PM
The new Card is installed completely including Drivers And Windows Recognizes the new card?

Heavyarms
04-03-2002, 06:09 PM
uh huh.

Havoc Stryphe
04-03-2002, 06:11 PM
Okay, Do you have your monitor plugged into the new card's VGA Out?

Heavyarms
04-03-2002, 06:13 PM
no, because I can't see anything when I do. also, there is a big yellow exclamation point over the monitor with the new video card.

Havoc Stryphe
04-03-2002, 06:18 PM
Okay, this means that either the drivers were not installed properly or the card is not all the way in the slot. Is it an AGP card or PCI?

Heavyarms
04-03-2002, 06:26 PM
it is in all the way, I'm telling you! It is PCI, BTW.

Havoc Stryphe
04-03-2002, 06:30 PM
In the Device Manager, Does the new Card's icon have a yellow exclamation point on it or under the "General" tab in the Device status box does it say that it has conflicts or does it say "This device is working properly"?

Heavyarms
04-03-2002, 06:35 PM
I need a display driver with multiple display support, it says.

Havoc Stryphe
04-03-2002, 06:41 PM
Well, here's where it's different for you than me, The card I installed a year ago had multiple display support. But we can still do this, but your going to have to do some things you probably haven't done before.

We are going to have to go into your BIOS (CMOS) and disable the video that way. Do you know what Brand BIOS you have?

Heavyarms
04-03-2002, 06:48 PM
well, that's the thing: I tried to have it professionally installed, but he could not find anything in the BIOS to disable it.