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Com Raven
11-26-2001, 08:30 AM
There are some guys including me that really like the Naboo, but (oh cruel reality) there is no campaign for them ...

So what do you think if we (the community) make a"official unofficial" Naboo campaign ...

Any ideas ??Should be 6 scenarios (plus one)to keep the official format ...

Clefo
11-26-2001, 11:09 AM
Sounds Super-Riffic.. We could get a team together and start working..

One Question: Since the Gungan Campaign is about defending Naboo from the TF, a Naboo campaign like that would be redundent.. What should we make the plot?

Paragon_Leon
11-26-2001, 11:20 AM
Why not have the Naboo fight against the Gungans at first (few missions; the old vendetta), and then have the TF invade and let you join forces with the Gungans ? That way you have that scenario, with a twist...

...and you could replay the mission in Theed with Amidala and her bodyguards making their way to the palace. A lot of potential !

Kudar
11-26-2001, 11:27 AM
Sounds great, we need some guys that can make decent maps though for a starting point after storylines.

Paragon_Leon
11-26-2001, 11:48 AM
Right. First make the story-lines.
Keep in mind that it has to be a campaign that is slowly increasing in difficulty, folks.

Com Raven
11-26-2001, 02:57 PM
Right Leon, I thought the same ...
Maybe the first contact(wrong universe, argh) between the neighbours, and later the stand against the TF ....

I'll go right to my Naboo Sourcebook for the PRG and look for inspiration ...

You guys have experience with mapping ??

Wraith 5
11-26-2001, 06:01 PM
Well I think a good first mission would be the gugans and the naboo meeting...

Depanding on who is the agresser would tell you where the reset of the story goes. Here are 2 possable ideas....

1. You are in control of a naboo scouting party who runs into a gungan base. Then the naboo can ether, tell the gungans that this is there land and destory the base, or the gugans can tell them to get out and try to destory them (This would end with the naboo taking out all military units)

2. You are in control of a local defenes force when a gugan invastion starts. And you have to servie.

DashRendar
11-26-2001, 06:30 PM
ok i like this idea a lot but i seem to remember that in one of the Designer's Diaries the Designer states that that's what THEY originally planned but found that the Gungans never did fight the Naboo

Like i said its a great idea but u might want to check into that

RogueJedi86
11-26-2001, 06:35 PM
I like idea 2. But I can extrapolate on it. You're in control of a remote outpost deep in the swamps when some Gungan troopers come strolling past. They preceed to attack your light walls/your light turret fires on them(they are,after all strange beings). Then the Gungans play out some dialog where a trooper says something along the lines of "Yousa have attacked wesa. Innocent Troopers. Yousa shall pay" and they attack your remote sentry stations.. And you either have to send Amidala/Panaka to the swamps near Otoh Gunga(to go underwater and meet with Nass to have peace talks) or destroy all the Gungan military on the map. Either way in the end there's peace between you(for now......). Or else the Sending Panaka/Amidala to the swamps near Otoh Gunga can be put into a later mission where the Gungans and Naboo fight(maybe the last Gungans fighting Naboo level). And then right after that the Trade Federation attacks and have destroyed those 3 towns in the First TF level and you must retaliate. So...is those some good ideas? I can give some more if needed.

Wraith 5
11-26-2001, 06:38 PM
That is a good point i think i remeber that as well...

We could say that it was just a fatcion (like in the gungan campain) that attacked the naboo, and that could be how the fighting never got as bad as to say that it was the two races fighting...

DashRendar
11-26-2001, 06:45 PM
That would fix the problem but bring up the new one of y did they STOP fighting

I guess the reason i'm criticizing(sp.?) this a lot is I have my own Naboo Campaign that i'm planning on making; i'm not getting into the specs because if i do someone else will use it and take the credit:p

Clefo
11-26-2001, 07:30 PM
The Rogue Gungan Faction sounds interesting.. What could the "Bonus" mission be though?

DashRendar
11-26-2001, 07:41 PM
If it comes out late enough maybe you could stick something from Episode II into the Campaign as a Bonus Mission

Wraith 5
11-27-2001, 01:27 PM
or you could have it say that naboo had a larger army then they did, and they are the ones on the grassy field to fight the trade federation.

Com Raven
11-27-2001, 01:49 PM
My RPG Sourcebook told me that there WAS fighting when human settlers landed to find their luck on Naboo .Even after the fighting was over Naboo Senators told the Senate that Gungans where nothing but Savages ...

Bonus could be that the Invasion wasn't executed as the Naboo military simply destroyed the forces tryin to establish the beachhead ...

Last regular mission could be getting the quenn through occupied Theed to the palace ...

Com Raven
11-27-2001, 01:50 PM
Hey Dash, if you are planning a Naboo campaign anyways, why not join forces ;)

DashRendar
11-27-2001, 03:10 PM
I would but...

1. I don't have the game yet. :(

2.I think mine is better:p :D
(I did post it now)

Crazy_dogreturn
11-27-2001, 04:19 PM
Yeah, I'm quite good at maps, so I can help. If u guys want me to anyway.

Stan|SCN Punk
11-28-2001, 03:05 AM
Sounds great. If you want anybody at SCN Punk (http://scnpunk.com/) to help out, just drop a note in our forums (http://scnpunk.com/cgi-bin/forums/Ultimate.cgi).

I personally think we should make something original... completely strayed from the SW storyline. It's like the first half of the Gungan campaign, except that's all of it is like that.

Clefo
11-28-2001, 09:51 AM
Good idea, Stan.

We should make a list of all the people in this project...

Com Raven
11-28-2001, 10:15 AM
Thx to Kudar for posting this on the main page ...

Yup, we should try to get all interested ppl together in a series of chats .I think that would be more effective than just posting .
As soon as there is a established team, we should divide it into varios departments (story, mission design, actual map making etc)

Just keep the good ideas coming ...

Croid Cog
11-28-2001, 12:09 PM
maybe you should control the original colonization party. it is, er, suggested in the movie that there is bad blood between gungans and naboo, and the game states that the reason for the peaceful Naboo having an army is tht threat of the Gungan army. Thus, I would say that the gungans were the aggressors, possibly right from the initial landing. there should be 'defend the colonist landers' missiond 'establish a colony and secure the area' scouting missions, etc. I like the naboo on the grassy field idea. perhaps the Naboo abandoned their pacifist ifdeas in the Gungan conflict and built up a large defense force? that could be cool.

Wraith 5
11-28-2001, 12:10 PM
Hey is a list of everyone that has been giving ideas in this thread and what kind of help they have given or said they can give...

Com Raven (creator, Central European)
Clefo (story, Mountain time (-7 gmt))
Paragon_Leon (story)
Kudar (stroy)
Wraith 5 (Story, CST (-6 gmt))
DashRendar (story)
RogueJedi86 (story)
Crazy_dogreturn (map maker)
Stan|SCN Punk (map maker, story)
Croid Cog (story)
PT4414 (story)
darthfergie (story, Design)
Young David (story)
Natopo (stroy)
Chet Dakota (playtest, story)
ReaperFet (historian, Story)
Gungan Warrior (story)
Zendjir (historian)
Morbius007(story, mapmaker)

Sorry if i missed anyone...

Com Raven
11-28-2001, 12:54 PM
Thx Wraith, though I think Kudar is on the team too ...

So what do you think how the mission should be divided ??

Half original, half movie ??

Prob is that the Naboo didn't do many things in the movie that would make for challenging missions ...

Com Raven
11-28-2001, 12:57 PM
Something I forgot, what time zones do you live in ??
Would be useful to plan a chat ..

Central European myself...

PT4414
11-28-2001, 01:36 PM
I was curious about the lack of a Naboo campaign (anyone know why?) and found this thread interesting. From what I gather, everyone's been focusing on a Naboo-Gungan-TF related story line. There could be another angle that could play out.

First off, I'm assuming that Naboo still would be in existance after the rise of the Empire (it IS Palpatine's home planet). I'm also going to make the big assumption that the TF would still be in existence, but in a very much-weakened form.

Campaign could start out just as Palpatine dissolves the Senate and the Imperial Navy and Army start to control various systems, including Naboo. First mission could be some Naboo resisters attempting to free prisoners from an Imperial prison camp. Next mission could be defending those newly-freed prisoners from an Imperial counterattack. Third could be a search for allies kind of mission (like Starcraft used to have) where the Naboo would have to find the Gungans and convince them to join the fray. TF could come into play as an ally of the Empire (kind of like hired mercenaries - if they want to keep their trade franchises they gotta help destroy the resistance - and the Empire's all about having someone else do their dirty work for them) in the fourth mission. Fifth could have Naboo launch an attack against the TF droid control facility, guarded by both Imperial and TF forces. Sixth could be some sort of final battle against the Imperial stronghold on Naboo. Some sort of sub-plot on how the Naboo managed to gain territory and resources would have to be woven into the main plot, but that would be easy. It could also be possible to make the third mission an initial attack on the Gungans but then at the end of the stage the Imperials and/or TF come in and then new mission objectives would be to ally with the Gungans and destroy the Imperials/TF. It is also possible to work some sort of sup-plot where Naboo has to get Amidala off the planet and away from Vader.

I dunno, it's just a thought.

Wraith 5
11-28-2001, 02:24 PM
Raven not a problem, I will updated that list everytime someone else adds something, takes on a new task, or post a time zone.

Thanks or finding the people i missed!

Wraith 5
11-28-2001, 02:26 PM
PT4414 that would work has well, and that brings up a new point...

What time frame should the campiagn be in or which few if you want to do a history thing...

Com Raven
11-28-2001, 02:33 PM
Naboo is included in Star Wars Galaxies, which is set during the Civi War, so the Empire doesn't destroy it ...

That would be another idea, go beyond the movie ....

Com Raven
11-28-2001, 02:36 PM
How about 2 missions pre-Ep I, 2 from the movie, and 2 Sequels ??

That would leave enough free space for our own creativity as well as give ppl something they recognize ....

Wraith 5
11-28-2001, 03:58 PM
That sounds cool.

Just to make sure i have it right...

2: pre ep 1
2: ep 1-2
2: ep 4-6 or post ep 6

Com Raven
11-28-2001, 04:28 PM
Aff Wraith, that's what I ment ..

Wraith 5
11-28-2001, 04:44 PM
sare gutt (sorry i can't spell german very good :( Then again i can't spell english very good either....)

So should me try to make the mission fit a story line, or use 3 different stroy lines?

darthfergie
11-28-2001, 05:03 PM
No facing Gungans guys...remember that Gaber originaly had the Gungans fighting the Naboo, but decided that they never fought too much...

I personally think there should be a fight over the kingship of Naboo...Remember in Cloak of Deception, written by James Luceno, that the King of Naboo had a 'sudden' death and the Planet of Naboo was in choas...and somehow...out of the choas...emerged the young Queen Amidala...I think that if we make a campaign that it should show her rise to power...

Scenario 1= The King has died...Captain Panaka (i think he is a hero) finds him dead and he and his guard force search out the traitor...(kill a few people nothing major)

Scenario 2= Several factions of 'potential' canidates fight it out...you/Panaka are on a quest to desern the best heir to the throne. You and your small task force are attacked several times by the waring factions...you find Amidala/Padme...end scenario

(continued in next post)

Young David
11-28-2001, 05:07 PM
It could go about the recistance of the Naboo against the TF.

Some mission will be about transporting information and raiding TF setlements (this could be a link to the 3nd TF mission)

One mission contains the rescue of Sio Bible. He has been captured and forced to record the famous line "You must contact me!"

One mission let's you escort the Queen to Theed. The recistance has been approached by a Gungan Tribe with the news that Queen Amidala has returned to Naboo and needs an escort to Theed.

The last regular mission contains the commando type operation like in the movie. A Full Theed map with the Hangar and the palace, the heroes and a lot of Trade Federation forces.

The What if:
Sio Bible send a transmission to the Queen. Sabé replies and comforts them. The Trade Federation sends troops from a nearby system to Tatooine and start their search for the queen. With the help of R2-D2 (rebel worker droid) the queen and her people make a small camp to defend their ship.

In the meanwhile Qui Gon and Anakin need to make their way to the camp when they run into a Tusken Raider camp

darthfergie
11-28-2001, 05:13 PM
(continued from last post)

Scenario 3= Amidala anounces her intent for the throne...and is attacked by most of the waring factions...she has but one ally (I forgot his name...the advisor to amidala in the movies that stays behind) They fight together and defeat several factions...

Scenario 4= Amidala is now put up against the strongest faction...the faction of the king's nephew...fight it out...

Scenario 5= Amidala is being crowned queen and rules no military action will be taken against the TF...She is captured...Qui-Gon and Obi-One rescue here...oh and Jar Jar too...you have to get her to the hangar alive...

Scenario 6= Infiltration of the Palace after they come back...capture Nute Gunray...

Scenario 7= *bonus scenario* You get to defend Theed from the TF invaders with the small skeleton force that Naboo holds...

Scenario 8=*bonus scenario* face off with the Gungans...Panaka vs. Boss Nass...

Clefo
11-28-2001, 06:26 PM
I live in Mountain time BTW

I like Fergie's idea.. It wouldn't cut into contiunity that much...

I also like Yound David's What if Mission idea...

ReaperFett
11-28-2001, 10:13 PM
I'm willing to help out. Not expert in anything, but could still help.

One thing to remember is the Heroes. Will you add others(Like Ric Olié)? Or stay with those known?

Natopo
11-29-2001, 03:35 AM
:fett: :bdroid2:

Hey, I've got storyline for the Naboo campaign. We could have the 1st mission where the Naboo civ are transported forward in time. To the time of the Galactic Empire. Then the 2nd mission would be where they meet the Rebel Alliance before the battle of Hoth. Just before they find Han Solo. Then we could have all these missions where the Naboo aid the Rebel Alliance in thier fight against the Galactic Empire.

Natopo
11-29-2001, 03:50 AM
:bdroid2: :amidala: :fett: :atat:

Well, continued from my last reply, one of our missions could be where the Trade Federation comes in through through the same time portal and they come in with a huge army right next to a major Imperial Outpost, heavily guarded and very strong. Then the Gungans would come through with a medium-sized attack force and together you would have to destroy that outost. I think this would make an interesting stroyline. Oh, and another thing, I have some map experience so if you'd like me to help out with some map making I'd be happy to once I get Galactic Battlegrounds.

Natopo
11-29-2001, 04:59 AM
Well, If you don't like my previous suggestion for the story line then her's another one. The first Scenario would be where you're in Theed and your on a scouting mission to the country side of Naboo. Then when you're about to go back, a portal appears and a huge Imperial Army comes and starts attacking you. You get a new mission objective which is to get back to Theed. The 2nd scenario would be where you would go back to that location and you must find out what that is. You have a medium-sized attack force and must destroy the portal.:evanpiel: :atat: :band: :bdroid1: Then, the 3rd scenario is where you find out portals are appearing everywhere around Theed. But 4 out of the 20 have Rebel Alliance armies coming. You've got to help the Rebel Alliance get the to the Imperial portals and destroy them. Then you would have to destroy the Imperial Armies. The 4th scenario would be when you find out the Imperials have made a base. A big one for that matter. Then you get word that the Trade Federation has joined forces with the Imperials. They're all at that big outpost. Then your sensors pick up that they're launching a massive strike force at you.:atat: You're objective would be to hold them off for 20 min. while the civillians escape through the Rebel Transport ships. The 5th scenario would be where you've decided to take the offensive. But you know that you and the Rebel Alliance can't fight the TF and the GE. So you must journey to the Swamps where you hope to find the Gungans and make an Alliance. You must make sure you don't run into any Imperial forces or maybe even some unexpected creatures or you're suprise for the enemy will be ruined. The 6th scenario would be where you are controling all the 3 races and you have to wipe out the threat. Though this won't be easy. You will have to destroy thier portal generator before you launch any major offensives or they will just summon reinforcements. The What-if mission would be what if you didn't destroy the portal generator and they shifted it to another place in Naboo. You wouldn't have as big an army and you would have to find some way to summon the Wookies namely by taking over the Portal Generator and getting them.

Com Raven
11-29-2001, 10:19 AM
YD, that idea about Sio Bibble sounds cool ...

And to Fergie, as I mentioned before, the RPG sourcebook tells us that there was a lotta fighting in the beginning (of course all Lucasfilm approved ...)

How about a chat this wekend ??

PT4414
11-29-2001, 12:15 PM
Couldn't Fergie's concept of a battle for the throne be resolved in the first 2 scenarios (the pre-episode 1 part of the campaign). The introduction could be the death of the king and the rise of rogue Nubian factions. Scenario 1 could be a race to get Amidala to the palace before the rogue factions get there. Scenario 2 could be a search and destroy mission to rid Naboo of the rogue faction.

Scenario 3 and 4 could cover the Episode 1 part of the story line (I'm loath to take liberties on what will happen in Episode II and I don't want to know until I see it). Backstory for this portion of the campaign could be that after Amidala and co. defeated the rogue Nubians free elections were held and she won. However, the TF saw the recent instability as an opportunity and invaded. Scenario 3 could be a build the monument game where Amidala's forces have to build a beacon to establish an independent communication link to the Republic and then defend the beacon from TF attack until help (read: Qui Gon and Obi Wan) arrive. Scenario 4 could be the assault on the TF stronghold on Naboo.

Scenario 5 and 6 would be an "out of the frying pan and into the fire" kind of deal where the TF is gone but the Empire steps in. A lot of storyline options here. Get the Queen off the planet, help a Nubian Jedi rid defeat the Empire, Gungans and Nubians team up, etc...

Chet Dakota
11-29-2001, 01:25 PM
I can help play test the proposed Naboo Campaign if you need the help. That way, I can give an honest review from those who are doing the design.

I have been a Beta Tester for a major design studio since 1997.

Chet

Chet Dakota
11-29-2001, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by PT4414
Couldn't Fergie's concept of a battle for the throne be resolved in the first 2 scenarios (the pre-episode 1 part of the campaign). The introduction could be the death of the king and the rise of rogue Nubian factions. Scenario 1 could be a race to get Amidala to the palace before the rogue factions get there. Scenario 2 could be a search and destroy mission to rid Naboo of the rogue faction.

Didn't they say in Ep 1 that Amidala was "voted" to the throne? Or elected? I remember Panaka saying it to someone.

Originally posted by PT4414
Scenario 5 and 6 would be an "out of the frying pan and into the fire" kind of deal where the TF is gone but the Empire steps in. A lot of storyline options here. Get the Queen off the planet, help a Nubian Jedi rid defeat the Empire, Gungans and Nubians team up, etc...

I like this idea...Have the Empire move in and destroy the Gungans and have the Naboo and remains of the Gungan race defeat the Empire. You could do a major battle sequence that you just watch, kinda like the Joan of Arc Campain in AOK2.

Com Raven
11-29-2001, 01:41 PM
I am sure you can help us as soon as there is something to test :D

Till then, all input is appreciated as well...

ow about this :the campaign (whatever the actual storyline may be ...) is narrated (in written text) by a young officer of the Royal army !
Could begin like this

Naboo. A peaceful world, inhabited by peaceloving people ! Or at least that's what the galaxy thinks about us and our world .
But even the most peaceful people must sometimes take up arms to defend their freedom .
This is the story of our struggle for peace ...

Natopo
11-29-2001, 08:54 PM
Did anyone read my thoughts for the story line?!:c3po: :atat: :amidala: :bdroid2: :deathii: :deathstar
Please read them. Sorry if it cAME IN TO LATE! ReAD IT! nOW!

ReaperFett
11-29-2001, 09:09 PM
Can I just point out that a resident of Naboo is NOT a Nubian. Nubian's are from Nubia, a planet with strong ties to Naboo. THINK Naboo people are Nabooians

darthfergie
11-29-2001, 09:48 PM
I still like my full Idea back there...call me biased if you want to but still...

Scenario 1= The King has died...Captain Panaka (i think he is a hero) finds him dead and he and his guard force search out the traitor...(kill a few people nothing major)

Scenario 2= Several factions of 'potential' canidates fight it out...you/Panaka are on a quest to desern the best heir to the throne. You and your small task force are attacked several times by the waring factions...you find Amidala/Padme...end scenario

Scenario 3= Amidala anounces her intent for the throne...and is attacked by most of the waring factions...she has but one ally (I forgot his name...the advisor to amidala in the movies that stays behind) They fight together and defeat several factions...

Scenario 4= Amidala is now put up against the strongest faction...the faction of the king's nephew...fight it out...

Scenario 5= Amidala is being crowned queen and rules no military action will be taken against the TF...She is captured...Qui-Gon and Obi-One rescue here...oh and Jar Jar too...you have to get her to the hangar alive...

Scenario 6= Infiltration of the Palace after they come back...capture Nute Gunray...

Scenario 7= *bonus scenario* You get to defend Theed from the TF invaders with the small skeleton force that Naboo holds...

Scenario 8=*bonus scenario* face off with the Gungans...Panaka vs. Boss Nass...


(you can think up your own Ideas for the bonus missions...they were just quick thoughts the rest were thought out and planned)

darthfergie
11-29-2001, 09:50 PM
Who are we going to select to make it??? And how???


Would we have a small team of maybe three creators who:

1) The first creator lays out the basis for the game and makes the campaign

2) The first creator then sends the campaign to his two partners and they tweek it adding a few personal touches and double checking the triggers

3) once done they then have an official "Beta" testing copy...

4) They gather a few gamers to test it and they test it themsleves

5) Once tested bugs are found and the campaign is once again tweeked and then tested by creators for anymore bugs

6) decide on a "final" copy of the campaign and release it on site as one of the better campaigns designed for GB...

That would be the effecient way of doing this at least...(we might even set up a small private forum for the game designers to post to other game designers and testers about the updates to the campaign and bugs found)

ReaperFett
11-29-2001, 10:09 PM
Fergie, Panaka is a hero, and the one who stas back is Sil Bibbo(something like that, 2AM thinking hurts:)), and hes a hero too


Love how it is set out, I must say

darthfergie
11-29-2001, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by ReaperFett
Fergie, Panaka is a hero, and the one who stas back is Sil Bibbo(something like that, 2AM thinking hurts:)), and hes a hero too


Love how it is set out, I must say

Thanks Reaper:)

Sio Bibble...what are his stats...maybe we could encorparate him in there...Also thanks for the confirmtion of Panaka...I wasn't all that sure about it...

Also my reasoning behind Amidala fighting is because...
1) she doesn't originally fight, Panaka really fights for her by protecting her and her intersts
2) Once the fighting is over she swears Naboo will never be ravaged by war again because of the terrible tragedy on Naboo
3) then TF attacks and she is forced to abandon that view

Natopo
11-30-2001, 04:28 AM
:atat: :confused: :eek: :( :fett: :deathii: :deathstar
Who here is going to tell me wheter my scenario idea's were just ignored or actually read? I would like it somebody would tell me if I can be on the editing on the editing team. I can help only on the 25th of Dec. and after.

Com Raven
11-30-2001, 08:39 AM
Yes, your ideas were read ..
And I stil, propose a chat this weekend to see which storyline gets most fans !!

And you can sure help (at least with testing)after the 25th ...
The question who is gonna do this is a good one ...
I guess we give all that applied an idea and see what they make of it ...
Best one is lead mapper (although with 6 maps, you can use several ones at the same time ...)

How about a chat saturday, 1st december any time between

7pm and 11pm (Greenwich time) ??

Clefo
11-30-2001, 09:49 AM
That would be Noonish my time so sure.... It would be good..

Maybe we can incorperate everyones ideas into this...

Com Raven
11-30-2001, 10:21 AM
ff, I'd really like to inclued as much as possible without wanting our "baby" to become fat and ugly .....:D

Others, plz post if you can join a chat at that time(s) so we can try to get first rough draft of story and missions (that way mappers could make firsz designs ..)

Chet Dakota
11-30-2001, 11:26 AM
Again, I ask...

Didn't Panaka say in Ep 1 that Amidala was "recently elected"?

If he did say that, then how can you have her "fight" for the throne? If she was voted to the throne, then Naboo is a democracy, although I find it strange that she would take the title of "Queen" if she was elected. Any serious fans here know the story of Naboo Politics?

Kudar
11-30-2001, 11:49 AM
She was elected Queen at age 14 so technically she's not royalty, it's just a fancy title ;)

Young David
11-30-2001, 06:26 PM
I think the Campaign should be hero orentated. We just have to choose who the main hero will be.

Amidala, Panaka or Sio Bible. I'd vote for Panaka because he's the more military one. But then the campaign must be set before ep1 or after. During the TF war he is with the queen.

Sio bible on the other hand is on Naboo during the TF attack, with him you can make a good story about what happens on Naboo while the Queen is away.

With Amidala is mainly following the movie and fill in the gaps. The time before ep1 there wasn't much to fight.

Com Raven
11-30-2001, 07:08 PM
I think that some guerilla warfare with Sio would be cool as our "movie missions" ....

Kudar, could you plz post chat announcement on mainpage (if you others can join ...)

Jedi_Knight
12-01-2001, 04:08 AM
the story could rougly be...
missions 1-4the empire is being destroyed all over the place so they split up on small planets everywhere looking for a planet to empower some of them land on naboo and kill some gungans the gungans destroy the small group but the group managed to send a message that the planet has life to take over so the rest of the empire comes and huge battles happen between the gungans and naboo and they loose most cause they forgot about war
missions5-6lso afterthere are commando missions lead by captain panka with heaps of small missions with the group blowing up and killing certain things
meanwhile the rebels are thinking where did the imperials go and they find them and help naboo and the gungans win
its just an idea you can take parts out of it or whatever:D

Com Raven
12-01-2001, 02:56 PM
Do I sense a Gunagn Warriopr trying to whitewash his "evil "people ...;)

Com Raven
12-01-2001, 03:15 PM
I am in the calacticbattles.com chat tonight, if you have time, drop by ..

Jedi_Knight
12-03-2001, 08:57 PM
does anyone like my idea

Zendjir
12-04-2001, 06:21 AM
I think its a great idea to make a naboo campaign, and I will surely download it when its done. Oh and about the gungans and the naboo, they did fight..a while ago:

From
The completely unofficial star wars encyclopedia on www.theforce.net :

'' Naboo
this is the human species which, along with the Gungans, that inhabit the planet Naboo. During much of their existence, the Naboo took great pains to avoid contact with their Gungan neighbors, and were mostly unaware of the huge underwater cities the Gungans built to escape contact. This was the result of a bloody war which was waged several centuries before the Battle of Naboo, in which large portions of both races were killed. However, fringe elements of both species realized that they couldn't survive without the other, and specialized trading relationships were set up. While these relationships were not officially recognized by either government, they were vital to the survival of each species. In general, the Naboo were a peaceful people, and chose to live in harmony with their environment rather than destroy it. ''

This encyclopedia is a great source for scenariobuilding because its.....HUGE!

Oh, and this is my first post, I have been reading the forum for some time now, I thought I should register. :)

Morbius007
12-04-2001, 10:58 PM
I suggest that we use the Naboo as an enemy in the Naboo Campaign. Say that some of the Naboo support the Trade Federation and start an uprising. With the help of the Trade Federation, the Naboo rebels would make a good opponent. The campaing would be about -- you guessed it, fighting the Naboo rebels and the Trade Federation.:bdroid2:

Morbius007
12-04-2001, 11:30 PM
I just read all of the posts. I am REALLY interested in the map-making. Probably a boring tedious job that no one enjoys except me. I can do the maps as accurate as they are in the SW Universe. Just get me the map maker and I'll do it. Also, it would be much easier to chat instead of posting. I have made many maps for the Command and Conquer games and enjoy doing it alot.:bdroid2:

Com Raven
12-05-2001, 08:57 AM
Would be cool if you could help with maps ...
How about a chat this coming weekend (hope no server switch this time ..) so we can agree on basic storyline ??

Morbius007
12-05-2001, 02:28 PM
Hmmmmm..... Would be very cool. It depends on what time the chat is. I live in New York. You are in Germany. Quite a bit of time difference. I'm not sure of the hour difference. Reply with a time and I'll try to be there. :bdroid2:

Morbius007
12-05-2001, 03:23 PM
Hey, I was also wondering something. I see a lot of posts and things about this Naboo campaign. Is there any work being done on it? There is going to be a surge of ppl on this site after Christmas. Many ppl are probably going to get this game. Many ppl with GB = Many complaints about no Naboo Campaign. Just was wondering. Like I said before, you get me the map maker, and I'll make the maps.:duel:

Com Raven
12-05-2001, 04:36 PM
difference between germany and NY is 6 hours ....

I don't think the campign be rdy till christmas (shouldn't be rushed), but maybe a preview map ??Who knows, first of all story needs to be agreed on ...

darthfergie
12-05-2001, 07:18 PM
I still like my full Idea back there...call me biased if you want to but still...

Scenario 1= The King has died...Captain Panaka (i think he is a hero) finds him dead and he and his guard force search out the traitor...(kill a few people nothing major)

Scenario 2= Several factions of 'potential' canidates fight it out...you/Panaka are on a quest to desern the best heir to the throne. You and your small task force are attacked several times by the waring factions...you find Amidala/Padme...end scenario

Scenario 3= Amidala anounces her intent for the throne...and is attacked by most of the waring factions...she has but one ally (I forgot his name...the advisor to amidala in the movies that stays behind) They fight together and defeat several factions...

Scenario 4= Amidala is now put up against the strongest faction...the faction of the king's nephew...fight it out...

Scenario 5= Amidala is being crowned queen and rules no military action will be taken against the TF...She is captured...Qui-Gon and Obi-One rescue here...oh and Jar Jar too...you have to get her to the hangar alive...

Scenario 6= Infiltration of the Palace after they come back...capture Nute Gunray...

Scenario 7= *bonus scenario* You get to defend Theed from the TF invaders with the small skeleton force that Naboo holds...

Scenario 8=*bonus scenario* face off with the Gungans...Panaka vs. Boss Nass...


(you can think up your own Ideas for the bonus missions...they were just quick thoughts the rest were thought out and planned)

We really need to decide on which story to use. And then we need to pick a team of designers to make it...we may need more than one thread for this...

Morbius007
12-06-2001, 01:41 PM
I like your idea for the story and i agree with Raven. We need to agree on the story before we start anything. If I get the map maker soon, sometime before christmas, i can get a map on the net. Sort of a preview map like Raven suggested. Also, give me a time, and I'll be on to chat with you guys.:duel:

Jedi_Knight
12-06-2001, 10:49 PM
fergies seems the best cause it is not over board
btw anyone like mine?

Zendjir
12-07-2001, 04:44 AM
Well, some messages earlier I indicated that the Naboo and gungans DID fight, a while ago. So we can base a scenario on that. And another Idea is playing the side of the Naboo during
EP-I. But I also like fergies idea. So maybe we can combine all these Ideas into one scenario; here's my idea

1. Human colonists discover Naboo and the Gungans respond to this by attacking the lightly armed colonists. A standard game: naboo vs. Gungans, but the naboo only have tech lvl 2 max. and the gungans 4. This should make an interesting game, because you really must use each units strenghts to the max.

2. As more and more colonists fly in from outer space, the fighting gets fiercer, the Nubian commanders decide to settle the matter once and for all, and attack the city of Otoh Gunga. This is a battle mission: destroy the enemy command center with a limited number of troops, while receiving constant reinforcements. At the end of the mission the two factions realize that the fighting is pointless, and an uneasy peace is settled.

3-5. Insert three missions from fergies idea here.

6. The trade federation attacks Naboo. After the initial attacks by OOM-9 only small scattered groups of naboo's security force remain. You start out with a small number of troops, and rescue more nubians as you go along. This results in the liberation of a small naboo city in which you will build a base. The game then changes into a standard game, with multiple TF enemy's. You have one ally: a small gungan settlement that you can use to trade with, and they attack the trade federation from the sea occansionally.

7. Replay the part of the movie where queen amidala, panaka and some troops try to capture the viceroy.

Well...it became a long post afterall :) Tell me what you think!

Morbius007
12-07-2001, 07:10 PM
Good idea. Im gonna look for ppl on chat tonight. Hopefully someone will be there. LOL, Zendjir I like your quote.:duel:

Jedi_Knight
12-07-2001, 07:51 PM
zendjiir's idea is the best yet:D

darthfergie
12-08-2001, 01:15 PM
1. Human colonists discover Naboo and the Gungans respond to this by attacking the lightly armed colonists. A standard game: naboo vs. Gungans, but the naboo only have tech lvl 2 max. and the gungans 4. This should make an interesting game, because you really must use each units strenghts to the max.

2. As more and more colonists fly in from outer space, the fighting gets fiercer, the Nubian commanders decide to settle the matter once and for all, and attack the city of Otoh Gunga. This is a battle mission: destroy the enemy command center with a limited number of troops, while receiving constant reinforcements. At the end of the mission the two factions realize that the fighting is pointless, and an uneasy peace is settled.

these two mission are kind of out of place...you MUST focus. You need a central focus to these missions...a driving idea to bering the campaign together and we probably want a central character to this whole thing...

ALTUS_Fett
12-08-2001, 01:35 PM
This sounds like a good stroy so far. Have yall even started building the maps.

Well, i just made my first CS and would like to know if i can help with this one. Thanx

DashRendar
12-08-2001, 01:45 PM
Zendjir the Gungans and Naboo never fought read the Designer's Diaries on the OFFICIAL Galactic Battlegrounds website which happens to be made by the OFFICIAL makers of Star Wars

Zendjir
12-08-2001, 07:34 PM
Well, I got the information from the encyclopedia on www.theforce.net And the person who made that encyclopedia has the information from :

Secrets of Naboo
WOTC RPG

I didnt know that a more official source stated that they didnt fight, so ok, I guess they didnt.

Well fergie, that cuts some of my storyparts away and makes the story more cohesive. We could center the story around the handmaiden that 'doubled' the queen in the movie. Her training, what she did while Padme came to power, and what she did during the trade federation invasion.
That way whe could even use the amidala model

:amidala:

ReaperFett
12-09-2001, 06:54 AM
Wouldn't it be better to do a Naboo history one, then afterwards a TPM one, then a hypothetical one? Three campaigns?

Com Raven
12-09-2001, 08:23 AM
Sourcebook is the more official thing in my opinion, as they are directly edited by Lucas Licensing Division, while their own in-house productions are probably more freely handled ....
If they didn't have hostilities, a lotta speech in Ep I wouldn't fit either ....

And right Fergie, we should focus on a main character, for which I again propose a young Royal Naboo Army officer .
First he tells us about past conflicts (pre-movgies, EP I) before he has to go to war himself ...

Clefo
12-09-2001, 11:40 AM
If we wanna keep with GB tradition, we should make the campaign "Narrators" a person who is important (I.E Wedge in the Rebels, Lando with the Wookiees) but isn't too directly involved with the plot...

ReaperFett
12-09-2001, 02:12 PM
could use Ric Olié, he was there for it all

Com Raven
12-10-2001, 07:59 AM
Right Reaper, Ric would be a good choice .
Or as suggested it could be told by one of the Handmaidens ..

Clefo
12-10-2001, 10:15 AM
Well if we're following Queen Amidala around then the Handmaids would be the better of the 2

Zendjir
12-10-2001, 10:57 AM
This is known about Ric Olie:

Bravo Squadron
this group of Royal Naboo starfighter pilots was sent against the Trade Federation's droid control ship during the Battle of Naboo. Led by Ric Olie, they managed to fight through a good portion of the Federation's vulture droid fighter ships, but were unable to penetrate the huge control ship's shields until Anakin Skywalker destroyed the ship from within. (SW1)

Olie', Ric
this man was a native of the planet Naboo, and grew up trying to fly or drive anything he could get his hands on. Among his friends, he was known as "Reckless Ric." However, he reined in his enthusiasm and joined the military, and was eventually promoted to the leader of Royal armed forces' Bravo Squadron. However, like the rest of Naboo society, he was unprepared for the Trade Federation's invasion force of droids. Olie and his pilots were quickly rounded up and prepared for dispatching to a detention camp when Qui-Gin Jinn and Obu-Wan Kenobi managed to liberate Queen Amidala from her Neimoidian captors. Obi-Wan freed the pilots, and the group fled Naboo for Coruscant. Ric Olie took control as the senior pilot, guiding them through the Federation's blockade as best he could. However, all his skills were no match for the firepower of the Federation battle cruisers. He was forced to limp the ship to Tatooine for repairs, but eventually got Amidala to Coruscant. While en route, Ric brought young Anakin Skywalker into the cockpit and taught him about the working of the starship. Later, during the Battle of Naboo, Ric led Bravo Squadron against the Federation's droid control ship. With the unexpected help of young Anakin, they were able to destroy the control ship and eliminate the threat imposed by the Federation's droid armies. Ric Olie was portrayed by Ralph Brown in Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace. (SW1, OWS)

And this about Sabe, the queens double:

Sabe'
this young Naboo woman was very similar in appearance to her Queen, Amidala. Sabe' served as one of Amidala's handmaidens, but also played a more important role. Like the other handmaidens, Sabe' was chosen by Captain Panak for her strength, loyalty, and resemblance to Amidala. As part of carefully maintained ruse, Amidala often wore elaborate clothing and make-up in public. This tended to mask her actual appearance somewhat. In times where the Queen's safety was at risk, Sabe' would take the Queen's place, dressing up in the clothing and make-up and acting as the Queen herself. Amidala, meanwhile, would assume the role of Padme Naberrie, another handmaiden. The pair had also worked a method of covert communication that they could use whenever Sabe acted as Queen and had to answer important questions. Thus, the deception was nearly flawless to anyone not familiar with Naboo. Sabe' was portrayed by Kiera Knightley in Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace. (SW1, TPM, JQA)

I think centering the story around Ric isnt a good idea, because he is a fighter pilot. This would make for dull and unrealistic scenarios with lots of hovering fighters (gasp). He did not do much but fly starfighters and other spacecraft.
Sabe, on the other hand could be interesting: little is known about her, that gives us alot of freedom. I personally favor Sabe, she is 'ground based', gives us alot of freedom and we can use the amidala model.

Make Ric the narrator and Sabe the central character

Morbius007
12-10-2001, 03:27 PM
Still no story yet. If anyone did not read my suggestion from a while ago here it is: I suggest that we use the Naboo as an enemy in the Naboo Campaign. Say that some of the Naboo support the Trade Federation and start an uprising. With the help of the Trade Federation, the Naboo rebels would make a good opponent. The campaign would be about -- you guessed it, fighting the Naboo rebels and the Trade Federation. -- I don't know. Lots of people are putting in there suggestions now. So far, Zendjir and Fergie's ideas are the best by FAR.:duel:

Zendjir
12-11-2001, 04:15 AM
Well there will probably be traitors, there always are traitors in a war. But Naboo rebels have not played a major part in the conflict as I recall. We could do some small encounters, but that would be it.

I'll post some ideas for Sabe and Ric as narrator on the forum later this day.

Mike DF
12-11-2001, 08:05 PM
Well, sorry to jump in late. But I had been planning on a similar project, as soon as I figured out how. My campaign plan was as follows.

Narrator: Ric Ole.

1. Ole blathers on about landing, involving distant ancestor. Mission involves the initial colonization. Player's goal is to build initial base and harvest enough rescources to make colonization worthwhile. Players' initial goal is to harvest x food, carbon, nova, and ore. And to build so many houses, a command center, etc.

Players start with a few troops and workers at a lander and have to pick a spot (or go to a predesignated one) and start building. They run across a few "native primitive" scouts, and waste them. After base is built ( with periodic raids) Gungans show up in force, and mission switches to standard "kick the enemy's butt mode".

2. Switch to Ep I time, with Obi-Won and QuiGon rescuing everyone, fighting their way to the hangar, and escaping, as in the movie.

3. Go to, Rebellion Era, shortly before Endor. Ric talks about the changes over time and the rebellion coming to Naboo. He talks about how they'd managed to take and hold a small base, and how they had planned to kick a planetwide revolt off. On the eve of their plans, things go wrong.

Start by viewing a small Naboo or rebel base. Then a trio of X1 TIEs show up, strafe the troops (set them all to croak.) This is followed by a squadron of bombers, who trash the base. After the command center blows up, a bunch of troops ungarrison or something, running into an imp army. Some commanders run into a different direction, and are captured by two bounty hunters, Jodo Kast, and Zardra (Toned down Boba Fett and Mara Jade, respectively)

Then, things switch to plan B a covert series of raids in the nearby city and outlying areas. Player starts with a small task force, and must complete a series of objectives to get the populace ivolved, while rescuing their comrades.

A. Rescue the commanders from the Bounty Hunters before they are taken to a detention center and interrogated, spilling the beans on the plan.

B. Detention Centers are sprinkled throughout. Rescue your comrades.

C. Locate a bunch of demolition droids to achieve your goals. (They're set to trash a series of objectives with one hit.)

D. As this is Palp's home planet, there's a monument to himself built. Destroy it.

E. The TIEs from the beginning are courtesy of an Imperial Pilot Academy. Ditto on the destruction.

F. Players must capture a series of Comm centers to get the word out to the populace to rise up and throw off the Imperial oppressors. As the broadcast starts, however, the Imps start jamming it.

G. Destroy the jamming tower.

H. After this, the Imperials are ticked off big time. Players have to escape from the map with their commanders and x number of troops, while the Imperials try their best to wipe them out in a running house to house gunbattle.

4. Ric talks about how they had succeeded in getting the populace stirred but lacked manpower and needed help. He talks about how the Gungans had been forced onto reservations by the Emperor, and were being used as slaves, under the watchful eye of an Imperial Inquisitor. The Imperial Forces, needing somewhere to put all the rebels they captured earlier, also stuck the prisoners on the reservation. Player has to take out the garrisons on a series of Gungan towns, Recue the Rebels, and deal with the Imperial Navy.

Players goals are to wipe out the garrisons, trash a bunch of ships and shipyards on the heavily water covered map, and trash the Inquisitor, a tough Sith Master. When Rebels or Gungans are rescued, they ally with the player, and tribute them rescouces. The Imps'll be tough though.

When they succeed though, the TIEs from the last mission show and wreak havoc. They are revealed to be elements of the elite 181st fighter squadron, and will have to be dealt with, leading us to the next mission.

5. The rebels withdraw, saying they're needed elsewhere, and wish the Naboo good luck. Ric mention that it turns out this is due to the battle over the second Death Star, though noone knew it at the time. The Naboo forces, still short on Manpower, need another solution. Ric mentions that when the Trade Federation hit earlier, They had been in the process of building a permanent Droid Control programmer on the planet's surface to take the place of the ship, which was a temporary measure. When they were defeated, the Trade Fed Control program, and a bunch of battledroids were placed in storage. This was in the same area as the 181st Fighter Squadron's base.

Mission starts out with some men and has to locate the droid control program. Occasionally they'll run across reinforcements. Then, they have to build a base. They then are required to find and liberate stored TF workers, battledroids, droidekas, etcetera. Player's goal then becomes to

A. Wipe out the 181st Airbases.

B. Research the full Trade Fed tech tree.

C. Harvest enough rescources to build the army required to liberate the planet.

6. Player leads Trade Fed, Naboo, and Gungan forces in a Citywide battle against the Imps in the capital. Imp forces under the command of the resident Moff are scattered throughout, and the player 's main base is located just outside the city. Player has to take out a series of targets, including the Moff, and capture the Royal palace. However, the winding streets and buildings make things difficult. Also, if too many civilian buildings are damaged in the fray, they lose automatically. Also, players will be required to guard bridges, lest the imps destroy them and cut off the player. No air forces on either side allowed in this mission.

darthfergie
12-11-2001, 08:15 PM
If we had to use Ric Ole we would have to use fighters and such because Ric was a pilot. Unfortunatly for Ric fighters can usually be shot down with one or two AA missiles. Also that means we would spend excessive time on the missions beacause when you allow fighters...you allow them to explore the entire map with relitive ease...and that means less easter eggs and the vast majority of the map MUST be covered. Do you have any Idea how long it takes to design a CITY from scratch...even on the smallest map the amount of time and the effort that goes into making a city is tremendous. The people that designed GB had time on their hands...they could do it easily...but unfortunatly we may have limited time on our hands...I would know about designing a city because I'm making a campaign that involves Corscant in every mission. It is TIME CONSUMING...

But if we don't allow an air force and design a city we won't have to worry about a good 20- 60% of the map. That would cut our work times tremendously.

Mike DF
12-11-2001, 09:02 PM
Oh, I mean just as the narrator. For the Rebel missions, Wedge narrates, but isn't actually in the game. Like that. An old Ric just gives us the lowdown before and after missions, and that's it. The hero could be some young Naboo officer, maybe one of the few remaining Royal Crusaders or something.

Also, I had planned to use the same map for missions 3 and 6. Lay down the buildings, roads, etc. Then save. Then add objectives, troops, etc. to each mission separately.

darthfergie
12-12-2001, 12:19 AM
That means we would have to create sound files and an intro to the campaign and stuff like theirs...does anyone know how to get that small enough for downloading and things like that???

RPWGabriel
12-12-2001, 02:44 AM
I personally like the idea about spanding multiple time periods

pre-ep1, ep-1, and post-ep 1

Only thing is there's a lot of people out there (me included) that don't want ep 2 spoilers, so that campaigns kinda out the window.

I don't have any source books involving naboo so I'm not much help story wise.

If you guys wanted something breaking story (copmletely original) i could help.

But, maybe i can just help fill in gaps or something.

I've only made one map (ever) just finished it. It's being beta tested tommorrow for me.

My scenario (i tihnk) was pretty involved too.
And it was pretty loosely based around the end of Ep 1.
Eliminate the TF and Obi/Jinn fight Darth maul.

Anyway, I'm here to help if you're interested.

Clefo
12-12-2001, 09:23 AM
You could use Zip Files. Remember this is a big project, so the download would probably be big...

Com Raven
12-12-2001, 01:20 PM
Worst case you tell the stories in in-mision briefings, although cool voice-overs would rule ...

So I guess it'S time to collect all good ideas for a good ol' democratic vote ??Need to get at least a bit started ...

RPWGabriel
12-12-2001, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by Clefo
You could use Zip Files. Remember this is a big project, so the download would probably be big...

If it's a really large file total and you need to compress it more you could use multiple compressors like..

Use WinZip...then use WinAce on that then use WinRar on that...

It works cos I've done it b4.

darthfergie
12-12-2001, 07:25 PM
It would still be large download times on that. Plus does anyone know how to do those scenario intro with voices and everything??? We already will put everything in a .zip file but I don't know how big the intro thing will be...OR EVEN HOW TO MAKE THE INTRO.

Clefo
12-12-2001, 07:27 PM
If your allowed to enter WAV files into your scenerios then voice overs are entirely possible.. As for Intros, that may take some programminng..

darthfergie
12-12-2001, 07:51 PM
WAV files work...we know that because of our beloved YD and his wonderful Taunt Pack:D

But the Intro...who knows what kind of Custom made file they use because they don't want people copying the game easily...

Clefo
12-12-2001, 07:56 PM
Well if we could mod, we could add voices in for the Hero units, and MAYBE we could make an intro if we could mod...

RPWGabriel
12-12-2001, 08:52 PM
Has anyone figured out how to make an intro like that though?

And if not, I don't think the intro is that big a deal, as long as the campaign plays well.

Although if someone could pull it off, it would definitely make it look more "official"

darthfergie
12-12-2001, 09:24 PM
Well I'm sure you can do it...but I'm not sure anybody here can do it...personally I just include a briefing in the reports...

RPWGabriel
12-13-2001, 05:20 PM
Does anyone even know which files these are?

The intro stuff for the campaigns, I mean.

I don't even know which file it is.

darthfergie
12-13-2001, 07:10 PM
Probably a combination of two or three files...I wouldn't even try looking for it...If we had a MAJOR program editor here like a mod maker...then we might do it...but really I don't mind it with just the reports and thing like that...

ALTUS_Fett
12-13-2001, 08:27 PM
fergie, your avatars don't work

darthfergie
12-13-2001, 08:36 PM
What do you mean???

The Easy 12 step process to Avatar installing
1) go to my site http://www.geocities.com/fergbacca/FergbaccaSW.html
2) right click upon the avatar you want
3) go down to "Save Picture As..."
4) click on it
5) Once the pic is saved come back to this site
6) Go to the avatar section of "user CP"
7) press the "change avatar" button
8) go down to the browse button at the bottom of the page
9) click on it
10) find the picture you just saved and upload it onto the site
11) then click the "submit modifications" button
12) Once this is done you will have it as an avatar

ALTUS_Fett
12-14-2001, 03:22 PM
I'm trying to put it one another site though. www.geocities.com/yodashorde and it wont work on ezboard.

darthfergie
12-14-2001, 07:07 PM
My avatars don't work???
One reason...you can't leech off GeoCities...You have to save the pick to your comp. and then put it on a leechable site..like www.webspawner.com .Then you can take it off there...

ALTUS_Fett
12-14-2001, 10:23 PM
OH, thanx fergie! :)

RPWGabriel
12-15-2001, 12:46 AM
So....any news on a definite storyline for the Naboo campaign?
It's been kinda quiet here regarding this...:confused:

darthfergie
12-15-2001, 01:29 PM
Once again I REALLY like mine :D

Scenario 1= The King has died...Captain Panaka (i think he is a hero) finds him dead and he and his guard force search out the traitor...(kill a few people nothing major)

Scenario 2= Several factions of 'potential' canidates fight it out...you/Panaka are on a quest to desern the best heir to the throne. You and your small task force are attacked several times by the waring factions...you find Amidala/Padme...end scenario

Scenario 3= Amidala anounces her intent for the throne...and is attacked by most of the waring factions...she has but one ally (I forgot his name...the advisor to amidala in the movies that stays behind) They fight together and defeat several factions...

Scenario 4= Amidala is now put up against the strongest faction...the faction of the king's nephew...fight it out...

Scenario 5= Amidala is being crowned queen and rules no military action will be taken against the TF...She is captured...Qui-Gon and Obi-One rescue here...oh and Jar Jar too...you have to get her to the hangar alive...

Scenario 6= Infiltration of the Palace after they come back...capture Nute Gunray...

And maybe these two bonus scenarios...Or you can figure out your ow versions...

Scenario 7= *bonus scenario* You get to defend Theed from the TF invaders with the small skeleton force that Naboo holds...

Scenario 8=*bonus scenario* face off with the Gungans...Panaka vs. Boss Nass...

But we need a core designing group...and soon...I'll be posting a Thread for Naboo Core Design Group.

Com Raven
12-16-2001, 09:06 AM
Insteada one "whole" suggested storyline I'D take a few ideas from each ..


CAmpaign should include :

- "prehistoric" fightin against Gungans (just forget that thing about them fightin or not ! If Lucaslicensing can't bfigure it out, it's bot our fault !!)
- something of Fergie'S Fight for the Rule
-of course stand against Trade Fed


-(less priority) later against Imps, but I'd rather go with above stuff ...

And very good idea Fergie withg that Thread about definite team ...

darthfergie
12-16-2001, 08:53 PM
Since this campaign is an undertaking of the GB.com community I'm going to stick these two threads to the top of this forum...

Com Raven
12-17-2001, 07:44 AM
MIssion 1 : First Contact with Gungans

Mission 2&3 : Fergie's story ...
Mission 4 : Escape from Theed, lots of heroes

Mission 5 : rescue Sio Bibble who was forced to send message (don't know who suggested it, good idea ...), regular troops

Mission 6 : infiltrate Palace, once again heroes ...

If there's not a lotta complaint about it, we take this one !
Not perfect and not enough of your great idea in it, but we should get started ...

And if this one is cool, we can continue ...

Zendjir
12-17-2001, 08:13 AM
Well, that sounds mighty fine :)

But we should go into more detail for each mission and the total campaign before anyone starts working on it.

here's my idea (continued from comravens idea):

1. First contact with gungans

The colonists land on naboo, and claim it theirs (this could be done with a wav file like: I hereby claim this planet...bla bla bla). There is a short time to build up the base before the gungans attack. The colonists survive, and need to destroy the gungan monument (or other important thingy) to beat the gungans. It ends with a conversation where peace is made.

2&3

Fergies story
IMO it should be centered around the main character

4 Escape from theed

We could center it around obi-wan and Qui-gon / around the queen and her handmaidens or around a totally 'new' character.
I would go for the new character here goes:
Sabe evades the initial capture of the queen, walks around a bit and finds a group of soldiers/ militiamen/ whatever. They decide to fight their way out. While doing so, they come across serveral scenes from the movie.

5 Rescue Sio Bibble

Attack a prison camp to get your workers and some reinforcements. With that, you build up a base and need to destroy the TF command center so that Sio Bibble appears from the debris. Then you need to get him to a certain spot on the map. The difficulty in this mission lies in the time counter; you have to destroy the command center before Sio is transported out of the system. After the command center is destroyed, you have to keep the guy alive and bring him to the exit-spot.
The use of aircraft in this mission should be made almost impossible (alot of AA) to keep things balanced.

6 Infiltrate palace

Well....like in the movie....

7 bonus mission

We should have a bonus mission, any ideas?

Com Raven
12-18-2001, 03:13 PM
I'd let our brave colonists in mission 1 find some of those strange sacred stone heads . Gungans attack cause they think they were desecrated !!

Rest sounds fine, and I think bonus mission can be made at the end ...

Zendjir
12-19-2001, 04:15 AM
Yeah, that's a good idea for mission one, it gives it more of a reason.

Let's wait for more replies before we consider this the final story. At that time we should have some people ready that can create the scenario.
We can also make a poll, on the main page, to see what people think of the idea.
And then we can let the creators loose.

Agreed?

Oh, and what about the bonus mission, I dont have any ideas yet.

Com Raven
12-19-2001, 09:57 AM
Sure, any publicity is nice ..

And for the bonus missions, I suggest those to be up to the mapmakers themselves, sure the'll have some cool ideas ...

darthfergie
12-19-2001, 10:39 AM
The Bonus Missions are going to be given out to designers and they will be given their choice on what to do.

We are going to have enough designers that it is very possible for different people to do those two bonus missions...

Com Raven
12-19-2001, 12:31 PM
Stan has taking responsibility for it, guys should send their bonus missions, he selects runner-ups, and all of us play for final decision ...

Now it'S time to really plan the missions ...

darthfergie
12-19-2001, 04:34 PM
I'm co-ordinating the whole project...(since I'm a mod in here it helps)

Stan has agreed to do scenarios, recruitment, etc...he is the all around designer I don't think he is officially involving SCN Punk in this, but he has asked for them to come and volunteer...

As for the missions...we need to start getting those planed out and voted on as soon as we can. Then we can get to the designing...Hopefully we can have a basic storyline by Christmas or soon afterwards...

Com Raven
12-19-2001, 05:04 PM
Looks like idea for mission 1 is fine (no negative comments so far ..)

Fergie, suggest what you wanted in your missions..

Btw, I've fallen to the dark side too (ie got ur avatar now too ..)

darthfergie
12-19-2001, 06:14 PM
My sugestions were on the last page...that is my campaign idea...

We need several popular campaign ideas (layed out well so you don't have references to other people's, etc) Then I will post a poll with the most popular 4 or 5 and the people will voteon which is the best. Then we make the best...:)

Stan|SCN Punk
12-20-2001, 02:29 AM
The best way to end a debate is to put it into action. If you take the initiative and made a scenario based on your storyline, then the rest who didn't make a scenario on their storylines will not be able to argue as loud as you. My advice for you guys. :)

Zendjir
12-20-2001, 04:32 AM
I suggest we post the current idea on the main page and do a poll.

I dont agree with stan, just pushing the scenario down everybody's throat to avoid discussion is a bad idea. Remember, we are making a scenario for the community, what if we found out at the last moment that the community thinks the scenario sucks? ---Mission failed--- and all the work done for nothing

darthfergie
12-20-2001, 10:36 AM
We WILL have a vote on about 3 or 4 different Ideas...We Will have it open for a week or two and will have it set and ready to go soon. (Stan that might work if there was only one designer, etc...but this is the community campaign...or something like that):)

darthfergie
12-20-2001, 10:42 AM
OKay moving right along...People suggest your favorite Campaign Ideas soon. And I mean soon. I'm going to put that poll up tomorrow...

If you want your Campaign Idea entired into the poll on time send it to my pm box today or early tomorrow morning...

Heavyarms
12-20-2001, 12:07 PM
the Rogue leader mission either Ison Corridor ambush, or the mission Prisioners of the Maw, or the Cloud city mission.

Ison Corridor: protect a group of transports from destruction while using your x-wings.

Prisioners of the Maw: Rescue a group of Rebel prisoners using your Y-wings.

Cloud City: take out tons of TIEs, and secure Tibanna gas by taking out gun turrets.

darthfergie
12-20-2001, 02:01 PM
This is the Naboo Campaign idea thread...no rebels...:)

Com Raven
12-20-2001, 03:52 PM
Very true ...

As I said, I wouldn't just take one whole story, but take best pieces from everyone ...

If that one story is taken, could you cut your story to two missions (rest is gonna be told between missions or in briefings then ...)

GunganArchitect
12-20-2001, 07:33 PM
OK I suggest a mix of Com Raven's , Fergie's and some other people who have had good "small" ideas.

I can't be bothered to go back through the threads to find each person's idea, and then compile them into a campaign idea ;)

Stan|SCN Punk
12-20-2001, 07:42 PM
Aside from the general storyline, there is the fine details and the medium as to how the story is expressed (in the history section, initial objectives screen, or via characters in the actual scenario) that needs to be entirely decided by the scenario designer.

darthfergie
12-21-2001, 12:22 AM
Exactly...remember people send me pms of your idea or they will not be submited in the poll.

Like Stan said these are general campaign ideas...there is no reason to get into the exact specifics...

Send those pms soon

Natopo
12-21-2001, 08:23 AM
I believe we should just start making it. We're never going to get it done if we sit here and discuss it. Let's just get this show on the road y'all :deathii: :deathii: :bdroid2: :atat:

Okay. I say we have a chat and finish this. We'll be able to start production on this after the chat.

darthfergie
12-21-2001, 12:09 PM
Like I said this thing is getting finished...Saturday I'm posting a poll on the campaign idea...

hopefully all of the aplacants have sent their scenarios to Stan at the recruiting office.

We should be able to start working on this soon after Christmas...:)

Natopo
12-22-2001, 12:30 AM
Good. We can get it started after christmas.

Stan|SCN Punk
12-22-2001, 03:10 AM
I have received nothing so far.

My email is stan_the_conquistador@hotmail.com for those who are interested.

GunganArchitect
12-23-2001, 12:03 AM
b]Naboo Campaign[/b]

Dear Fergie,

It's GunganArchitect here, a loyal contributor to the forums (esp Scenario design), I'm just posting my ideas for the Naboo campaign. Here is mine - please submit it for the poll

Scenario 1. Human colonists arrive on Naboo for the first time.
Start: You fly in with some transports to a rugged planet for the first time. First objective is "Scout the area to find out if the planet is a worthy colony" - ie find nova, and ore deposits, and fertile soil - food and nerfs, etc. Second objective is to set up a base - ie build up a settlement of some kind. The End.

**(Easy and a 'starter up' - remember...at this stage the Naboo are unaware of Gungan existance)**

Scenarios 2-3. First Gungan contact

Scenario 2 and 3: (This storyline could be seperated into the two scenarios later this is just a basic overview of how the conflict eveolves)

You have remote outposts and a few men in certain areas, as well as some sort of base. Gungans stroll past...you open fire on them and then they start talking to you. They accuse you of attacking them innocently and of religious sacrelige beacause of the settlement you built in the area (perhaps is the place where the Gungans believe their God first created life - or whateva .

The Gungans who fight the Naboo could be members of a rogue Gungan faction or they could form a rogue gungan faction in response to the human settlement, . The game would evolve into a war with the "rogue Gungans".


These rogue gungans could then fight a guerilla war against the Naboo - "hit and run" warfare. Also they could be sort of terrorists - striking against the naboo cities - kinda like Bin Laden (a sensitive issue but a good idea). In the end you wipe out the Rogue Gungan force...but you (the Naboo) are forever viewed by the normal Gungan Population as enemies. (The normal gungan population saw the Rogue Gungans as heroes - Boss Nass secretly supported them without openly declaring support for their cause - kinda like a lot of leaders through history.)

An uneasy peace ensures - (the cold relationship the 2 civs had).

Rogue Gungans could have some cool name for themselves (Rogue Gungans sounds a bit plain) i.e. the name of Bin Laden's group is Al Qaeda - so the Rogues could have their own name as well.

~~If you decide (the designers) to have a direct confrontation between Boss Nass and the Naboo then you can make up the story ~~

Scenarios4-5. You could insert Fergie's ideas here. The only problem is, and this is a BIG PROBLEM was that Amidala was elected democratically - no warring factions!?!

**Instead**

Scenarios 4-5. This could be the story of the Naboo slipping into a period of civil war. You could be the monarchy and you have to fight a group hell-bent on a new way of government - Anarchists, communists (well, a variation on the names but are anti - royalty).

Basic Plot - Monarchy, security forces battle the **faction** who want change - tales of betrayal in the Kings ranks...etc

Scenario 4- i.e. Details the beginnings and some battles in the civil war. Then you move a number of troops or weapoins to a specific location to prepare to eliminate the factions. Then you are betrayed by a senior army official who defects. There is an ambush waiting...many monarchists (your men) are killed, weapons are stolen...and you have to run back to Theed and survive...then pick up the pieces and defeat the factions in scenario 5.

Scenario 5: You must defeat the factions once and for all. i.e. survive an assault on Theed, then lead a squad of elite men - jedi, heroes, through **faction**controlled territory and assasinate the leader and blow up the main base of the **faction**. Restore the king to his glory and negotaite a peace with the remaining rabble of guerillas. etc HAPPY ENDING

Then a TIME-JUMP to the crowning of Queen Amidala - a cutscene - speech about how she is honored, people cheers!! etc

Scenario 6. Trade Federation story begins. The plot and scenes from the movie are played out. Lots of cutscenes where the Trade Fed invades and rounds up resistance etc. Mission: You have escape with the Queen and Obi Wan, Qui Gon, Panaka etc. Past droids, and away!

BONUS MISSIONS .....Return and Liberate Theed by infiltrating the palace with Panaka and Amidala like in the movie. Capture the viceroy, etc ETC!! You win - Fine details can be worked out later.

Another Bonus mission...to be decided by Scenario group.

I reckon this plot would be good - It has everything - Fight with gungans, terrorists, civil war, RPG element, infiltration, Ep 1 Phantom menace stuff, the Trade Fed, etc. If it doesn't get accepted I won't be too devastated But I'll eventually try to make it myself. I like the plot - I hope you do too peoples....

<GunganArchitect>

darthfergie
12-23-2001, 12:38 AM
Thanks G.A.
I'm going to be here tomorrow too. So I'll be posting the poll tomorrow...

I forgot to do it today :D

Natopo
12-23-2001, 03:12 AM
Where is the location of the poll? galalcticbattles.com?

Natopo
12-23-2001, 03:17 AM
Oh, G.A. I like your plot. I doubt there'll be anything better.

Mike DF
12-23-2001, 05:25 PM
I also prefer G.A.'s. As I said, my post was of my own plans. I'm working on mine for the heck of it, while I try to figure out how to use the editor. (I don't have the slightest idea how it works. But the chance to do my own Star Wars tactical-type scanario is too much not to take advantage of.) I was just throwing it out as an example. Or to give some ideas. Throw more options out into the brainstorm, that kind of thing.

So, don't vote for my idea. I'm doing it. It'll be done. Someday. Maybe. Right after I finish the Mechcommander 1 mission utilizing my hometown.

PhoenixNaboo
12-23-2001, 07:36 PM
Hi! I'm new here but I totally agree with you wanting to create a Naboo Campaign...I tried to make one...but it sorta didn't work out like I wanted. I have a full story line and anybody interested can email me at PhoenixNaboo@msn.com . It's probably gonna be viewed as stupid...but hey...it's an idea!

Thanks,

PhoenixNaboo....A Queen Amidala Fan!

de351
12-23-2001, 10:35 PM
just a tiny question when will this come out i understand that is hard to figure so I am just wondering thanks:lsduel:

darthfergie
12-24-2001, 04:57 PM
We don't have a definate release date yet but work should be getting started on this soon after Christmas...

Stan|SCN Punk
12-25-2001, 02:19 AM
I suggest we don't set a release date until we have applicants. ;)

Com Raven
12-31-2001, 08:23 AM
Do nwe set a certain point of time when storyline-vote is closed, or do we await a certain no. of votes ??

Stan|SCN Punk
12-31-2001, 06:45 PM
I wouldn't know.

Natopo
12-31-2001, 08:43 PM
I think you'll have to ask fergie.

Com Raven
01-01-2002, 06:12 PM
155 views, 20 votes, lol .....

ALTUS_Fett
01-18-2002, 03:24 PM
So what happened? Did this crash just like my fett campaign?

darthfergie
01-19-2002, 12:25 AM
Don't know...depends on how many applicants Stan has...and it depends on if Stan is still here or not...

ALTUS_Fett
01-19-2002, 01:46 AM
From what I know, he has quit coming and is hooked on Diablo 2. :(

Natopo
01-20-2002, 06:00 AM
I think that's right. I haven't seen him anywhere for months.

Adm Nuker
01-22-2002, 11:33 PM
ok Everyone, this has gone dead, Too many ideas, too many different Views.
Im not good at Anything in the Editer, I can make maps, But not triggers, BUT i am good at Organising things, So ill make a website, nothing big, ill get a Join form, and if enough people join, we can get this thing DONE! and get it done GOOD!

Iv e heard alot of Ideas, they all sound good. I've got MSN Messenger, Which would be ideal if people want to have a Chat about it, its easy and small to download at: http:\\www.msn.com

I think we can do this!
All we need is a bit of support! We can work this from:
Ill work on the site, no great Graphics, but it may be ok! :)
Get interested! Get Going! Get Creative!

Adm Nuker
01-22-2002, 11:50 PM
Ok, back again, hope anyone is checking This Thread, Im creating a new Thread, All welcome!

Anyone Interested can Check the site once its up, and/or Add me to there MSN: NabooProject@hotmail.com:p

Com Raven
01-24-2002, 10:38 AM
Great man, could you plz send me a pm once site is up ??

Thanks ...

Heavyarms
01-28-2002, 10:58 AM
well, I was asked to assist in triggers by nuker, and I said I would, I also said I would help in some map designing. Would someone give me a brief rundown of what we are doing?

Com Raven
01-28-2002, 03:07 PM
Give GB the Naboo campaign it lacked, and do it quick....