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PointMan
04-17-2002, 11:51 PM
From reading different threads here and there, it seems everyone is always complaining about being killed by people using the same tactic over and over -- they think its "cheap" and then immediately follow their death with a "lamer" statement.

It seems to me that everyone thinks too highly of themselves to realize that they can actually make mistakes...

So, here's an old doctrine of mine, which came about after over five years of karate, kickboxing, jujitsu, judo, etc. etc. etc. (yes i've done them all).


IF YOU DIE ITS YOUR OWN DAMN FAULT.

You cannot blame your opponent for killing you, all they did was do their job by capitilizing on your own mistake.

So please, stop coming to this board and whining over and over and over, as the servers can be used for MUCH more productive and insightful thoughts.


Thank You,

PointMan

Rogerwilco2002
04-17-2002, 11:56 PM
Yo

That touched me man.

So true.....

GSA_Mitth_
04-18-2002, 12:21 AM
Peace to the world, dont do drugs, eating Poizen is bad for your health eyc. etc. etc.

Look i understand you get pissed of by some Jk2 player who plays JK2 for 3 weeks and still doesnt know how to counter that 1-strike-kill who is complaining about that attack ...

They just complain that they are really dumb enough not to find a cure for it, but instead to flame others trying to convince them that attack is lame.

Look maybe it isnt fun being killed time after time after time after time by the same tactic ... But doesnt that mean you are to dumb enough to actually think of a strategy to counter the opponent's one ??? If that guy is doing the attack voer and over again you must have been thinking "Ow wait now he's doing that attack lets do this or that maybe it'll work".

Ohhh well ... luckely there always remains a difference between newbies and experienced gamers.

PointMan
04-18-2002, 12:31 AM
Hey dude, I think I totally agree with you, but maybe its just my brain .

I'm having a little trouble with this sentence:

But doesnt that mean you are to dumb enough to actually think of a strategy to counter the opponent's one

I mean I don't mean any disrespect or anything, just asking for a little clarification, sorry if I cause any trouble.



And right now I'm not mad at anyone - I'm just trying to show players a different way of looking at things, and I do think that if people started thinking this way, the JK community as a whole will become friendler and more fun.

Cmdr. Cracken
04-18-2002, 12:33 AM
When i took up learning how to properly use a sword, this is the first thing i learned. the hard way. not with a real sword, but a trainer stick, which he repeatedly, and very hard, showed me every mistake i made. It showed me no matter what, you must have FOCUS, and learn how to avoid the cost of your mistake, however small, which is...

DEATH.

Same applies to JK2 Saber Combat. It's YOUR mistake. YOU left yourself open for the attack. if you cannot recover and correct that mistake, it's not because he's cheap, it's because you cannot see your own faults.

Learn, Grow, and better yourself. It's the only way to stop the attacks. LEARN TO DODGE, and react, and learn from your mistakes.

You're luckey this isn';t all for real, or there'd be alot of dead Jedi.

Kuroshi
04-18-2002, 01:58 AM
Expect a lot of dead Jedi next month. =)

Chewie Bakker
04-18-2002, 02:02 AM
<falls over and impales himself on lightsaber>

Chewie Bakker you lamer! Why did I kill me!?!? I cheated!

:lol:

Seriously, I agree. It's just a game. If someone keeps killing you the same way over and over again, learn how to identify their attack "Look! Ralph's changed his stance to heavy. He likes using the strong special attack" then act on a possible counter "Ralph tends to swing a little bit to the right after he attacks. If I roll to the left of him then I'll be able to attack him with ease." If that doesn't work thing of another strategy, and so on and so forth...

:lsduel:

Since It's just a game just try to have fun with it. Prove that you're 1337 instead of boasting about it and then whining that there's something you can't counter against.

:yobi:

Jaif
04-18-2002, 02:14 AM
I agree with the original poster. I said this a number of weeks ago. Adapt, improvise, and overcome. Or die. Your choice, your actions; stop blaming the world.

RpTheHotrod
04-18-2002, 03:04 AM
They are easy to kill for me.

Funny though, ALL they use is the heavy attack head-swing over and over and over and over....all I do is back up and throw the saber at them, ALWAYS killing them. Then they say how cheap I am ONLY using the saber-throw, and that I have no skill! ROFL


I only use saber throw against the people dumb enough to keep trying red stance on me, or if they are running away (hmmm, also if they throw theirs at me)

Kreidian
04-18-2002, 03:15 PM
I definately have to agree with PointMan on this one.

Two nights ago I was playing on a Duel server with a friend of mine. This guy would always use the exact same move to try to kill me. (The classic drain/grip/lightning combo.) To his credit, he's been playing long enough to make very effective use of that all too common tactic.

Well, I've had to deal with this tactic often enough that I know different ways to counter it. My favorite was to turn on absorb just as I was closing in, then use the pull and kick combo to knock him down. After that I would come in for the kill. In fact, I would use the pull/kick combo quite often since it was such an effective combo to use against him. Even when drained completely I could sometimes manage to kick him down and come in for the kill.

What was really funny was that after beating him so many times, HE complained that I was the one using the same "cheap" move to kill him over and over! Even though (in my mind at least), my combo takes more skill to pull off effectively and is a great deal easier to counter if you know what you're doing.

In the end my only real advantage was that I learn from my mistakes, I don't whine about them. :)

HertogJan
04-18-2002, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by GSA_Mitth_
...

Hey Mitth, you here? C U on the nwo.nl forums ;)