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Kurgan
02-07-2001, 12:39 AM
It was a great sci-fi action show that debuted in '87. I've started collecting the stuff again, and here is a scan of one of the tapes:
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~kurgan/cpep12_up.jpg

Links:

www.captainpower.com (http://www.captainpower.com) Website with some info on the series.

http://us.imdb.com/Title?0092329 : IMDB entry on the show.

Kurgan

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Jedi SuperBuen
02-07-2001, 01:42 PM
Yeah I remember that! You could shoot at the tv at the ships and stuff with that hand help spaceship... I was pretty young at the time so I don't remember much but I do remember it was kewl http://www.jediknight.net/mboard/smile.gif

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Kurgan
02-07-2001, 07:03 PM
Sweet, well I'm planning on reliving some of those childhood memories.. POWER ON!

Too bad there's no way to play it online..
; p

Kurgan

Jawamaster
02-08-2001, 12:32 AM
What show are you guys talking about?

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Jedi SuperBuen
02-08-2001, 01:24 PM
I dunno if it was ever an actually show... It was kinda like what you would call an interactive video game. I dunno how to explain it... Click on the link Kurgee put up.

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Kurgan
02-08-2001, 03:32 PM
Yes, it was both a TV show and an interactive VCR game.

You could "play" it (or simply watch it) via your TV and the toys (basically lightguns).

The cool thing was, the videos you could buy you could play, but also the regular TV show that was on each day. Still, while the toys were a selling point of the show, you could still enjoy watching it without firing at the on-screen targets.

Imagine if in Star Wars during the movies the storm troopers and Darth Vader all had glowing targets on their chests. And now imagine that sitting at home, you could shoot at the targets to get points, that's about how it was (although you could also get "shot" by incoming missles toward the screen, so you had to shoot these, much like you would in a rail shooter game). A pretty novel really.

Kurgan

Jedi SuperBuen
02-09-2001, 01:07 PM
Hey I guess that's what started the whole "guns" for the Nintendo (remember Duck Hunt?). Man it's incredible how far interactive stuff has gone... I mean... Now you can buy these like baseball bats and balls at wal-mart and you can play baseball against your tv...

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BeastMaster
02-09-2001, 02:20 PM
I remember that show!

It's still on here (via re-runs, of course), on Space: The Imagination Station, but I don't know the time-slot.

I was thinking coupla' months ago, how cool it would be (as an SF writer) to get the licenses for some of these old things and re-do or continue them.

Imagine seeing Sauron of Blastarr done with modern CGI technology. http://www.jediknight.net/mboard/cool.gif

I even have an idea on how to continue the story from how the show ended, and a way to bring back *SPOILER*, who died in the finale.

Thing is, *SPOILER* would be coming back with a view/plan/understanding that makes *SPOILER* the enemy of both Power and the Dred-Heads. http://www.jediknight.net/mboard/cool.gif

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Garindan
02-09-2001, 03:39 PM
one of my friends had one of those vcr tapes and a playset thign that fired at the tv, pretty cool!

oninosensi
02-10-2001, 01:01 AM
Hey, I used to have a lot of the toys, and I think I still have a tape around here somewhere. I know I have my old comics still (my daughter was looking at them the other day). Those toys were the coolest- if you had ship, and your friend had a ship, you could shoot at each other!

Did I mention I had Laser Tag?

Hey! How about someone do a Captain Power TC for JK? http://www.jediknight.net/mboard/biggrin.gif

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Kurgan
02-10-2001, 01:43 AM
Okay, I just had an idea.. and I don't want anybody to get the idea that I'm using this board inappropriately, so let me extend the message in this manner:

Anybody who has Captain Power tapes, or has Captain Power on TV where they live, and would be willing to sell/trade some tapes with me, EMAIL ME! Let's talk!

I'm looking to complete my collection of the shows on tape.

; ) Hope that was okay. My email of course is kurgan@obi-wankenobi.net

Kurgan

paulbarnard
02-10-2001, 03:57 AM
You're dating yourself. Don't want to let the kids know us old guys had fun once.

No, I don't remember that damn thing that was advertised everyother page in DC Comics. Next question.

BeastMaster
02-10-2001, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by oninosensi:
Hey! How about someone do a Captain Power TC for JK? http://www.jediknight.net/mboard/biggrin.gif

Yeah!

Yeah, yeah, yeah!

I can do the skins, if somebody wants to handle the weapons & cogs.

<small>As if I don't have enough TC ideas kicking around.</small> http://www.jediknight.net/mboard/rolleyes.gif

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Boba Rhett
02-10-2001, 08:01 PM
I have no idea what the guns are like but if someone tells me maybe I could do the weapon cogs.

Kurgan
02-10-2001, 09:47 PM
Here's some weapons/character info:

Let me see, most of the characters had a hand blaster (with two firing modes, single shot, and stream burst).

Then Hawk (the guy who could fly without the aide of a hover bike or ship) had wrist rockets and wrist blasters.

Tank had a blaster rifle (more power), a heavy weapon to go with his heavy armor (and slower movement).

Power had in addition to his blaster, laser shuriken (which I believe could home in on targets), and a shock prod staff (throwable, or could be used as a melee weapon).

The Power suits took hits and provided their own weapons (I think only the hand blasters were independant of the suits) which consumed power. Not sure if the suits also used power over time, but probably. They had to be recharged at the "power base." The suits while powered on prevented the user from being digitized.

Powering down (to regular civilian clothes) saved energy.

It would play out sort of like Team Fortress actually..

Power: medium armor, variety of weapons (shuriken, shock prod, blaster).

Pilot: light armor, skill with vehicles, technical (engineer) abilities.

Tank: heavy armor/weapons, slow.

Hawk: flight ability, aireal combat. Medium armor.

Scout: spy abilities (morphing into characters or objects he's seen or contacted with), light armor. Sabotage: can place timed explosive devices. Has "assasination" tool for BioMechs (short circuits them from close range contact, similar to the Jawa Ion gun, only he has to touch them physically with it).

I can't remember if they also had a few throwable charges (grenades) in the show that they used from time to time.

The vehicles included their main transport ship (can't remember the weapons systems on it), a smaller ship that took off from the main jumpship that included blaster systems (Power's ship).

Then there were at least two hover bikes that has blasters mounted on the front, up to two people could ride them (like motorcycles). They could also fly higher in the air than say Speeder bikes. Could be programmed to be autopiloted.

Dread had a similar jumpship, similar fighter, and an anti-aircraft type cannon (at least in the toy series) which was controlled by one person ("the Interlocker").

It would be cool if some sort of mod was made, either for JK/MotS, or UT.

Would it be coop? How about enemies? They could fight as a team to take out troopers, Blastaar, Soaron, etc.

Deathmatch would be interesting, like some kind of "Training" with the 'Soldier' members fighting each other.

The BioMech troopers were fodder. All they had were blaster rifles, and some had tanks and turret guns.

Human Dread commanders: wimps, think "imperial officers." They have hand blasters, no armor.

Blastaar has heavy armor, a blast shield (repulses all kinds of stuff) and is resistant to melee weapons and shock prods. Multiple hand cannons. Can "digitize" non-power suited humans. Had the ability to regenerate (over a period of time, longer depending on the amount of damage). Stronger than Soaron, but due to flaws in his design, sometimes had 'lapses' that let me be confused easily.

Soaron can fly, has heavy armor, eye beams. Can "digitize" non-power suited humans. He can also regenerate. He once regenerated from being blow into tiny pieces (over a looong time of course).

Lord Dread, the head honcho rarely fights. But he has his own shock prod and blaster. Strength equal to someone with a powersuit, due to his bionic implants. Can create realistic holograms of himself to fool his enemies.

Kurgan

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Boba Rhett
02-10-2001, 09:56 PM
maybe instead of a tc there could be an individual mod for each character in the show.

Kurgan
02-10-2001, 10:06 PM
Here's some pics of the stuff for reference:

team members perparing to "power up" from base:
www.public.iastate.edu/~kurgan/soldiers1.jpg (http://www.public.iastate.edu/~kurgan/soldiers1.jpg)

In full gear:
www.public.iastate.edu/~kurgan/soldiers2.jpg (http://www.public.iastate.edu/~kurgan/soldiers2.jpg)

Another of the team in full gear:
www.public.iastate.edu/~kurgan/soldiers3.jpg (http://www.public.iastate.edu/~kurgan/soldiers3.jpg)

Captain Power's Blaster:
www.public.iastate.edu/~kurgan/cpblaster1.jpg (http://www.public.iastate.edu/~kurgan/cpblaster1.jpg)

Other side of Power's Blaster:
www.public.iastate.edu/~kurgan/cpblaster2.jpg (http://www.public.iastate.edu/~kurgan/cpblaster2.jpg)

PowerJet XT7:
www.public.iastate.edu/~kurgan/powerjetxt7.jpg (http://www.public.iastate.edu/~kurgan/powerjetxt7.jpg)

Dread's Phantom Striker:
www.public.iastate.edu/~kurgan/phantomstriker.jpg (http://www.public.iastate.edu/~kurgan/phantomstriker.jpg)

Dread's Interlocker:
www.public.iastate.edu/~kurgan/interlocker2.jpg (http://www.public.iastate.edu/~kurgan/interlocker2.jpg)

Another of the Interlocker:
www.public.iastate.edu/~kurgan/interlocker1.jpg (http://www.public.iastate.edu/~kurgan/interlocker1.jpg)

I can post more later if needed...

Kurgan

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Boba Rhett
02-10-2001, 10:06 PM
How about some pictures of the people to see what meshes have to be altered. Maybe some pics of the opening screen and weapons too.

Boba Rhett
02-10-2001, 10:08 PM
Jeeeez, those questions were answered before I even was done asking! lol

Kurgan
02-10-2001, 10:18 PM
Np, lol. ; )

Here's some more, I should get some better pics of the bad guys:

Power, Hawk (figures):

http://www.public.iastate.edu/~kurgan/figures2.jpg

Blastaar:
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~kurgan/blastaar.gif

Lord Dread:
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~kurgan/dread1.jpg

More figures (Sauron, Power, Dread):
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~kurgan/figures1.jpg

Note: Normally Sauron has wings, but I've never seen him use a rifle in the show, only his "built in" weapons, the same goes for Blastaar... Actually now that I think about it, it appears the figures were just given all sorts of weapons, that have nothing to do with the ones they actually had/used in the show (note that the Blastaar figure includes a gun he never had, but not his shield).

Kurgan

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Boba Rhett
02-10-2001, 10:33 PM
Are there anymore weapons? Ones that do special things?

Kurgan
02-11-2001, 12:20 AM
Other than the ones I mentioned, no, don't think so.

I have all 22 episodes of the show (RealVideo), and I've watched them all (and if memory serves) I listed them all.

There was also at least one "movie" made that I have not seen, which might have new weapons, but I don't know.

Basically the weapons functions would be:

Blaster:
Primary Fire= single shot, similar to a blastech pistol
Secondary Fire= hold down for a stream burst that is more powerful, but uses more ammo.
Blasters of varying strengths could be used. The only non-suit generated weapon the Soldiers use. Standard issue for human Dread commanders as well I'm sure.

Wrist rockets/blasters: Think wrist charges like in Manowars. Wrist blasters are the same as hand blasters only they drain suit energy and are cosmetically different.

Shock Prod:
Once activated, it could be thrown (like a spear) or used like a lightsaber (melee weapon). Two can fight shock prods together (similar to a saber duel I suppose, only they are more like quarterstaves).

"Assasination" Prod:
A stabbing weapon, that only connects at close range, but can disable a Biomech trooper in one hit.

Shuriken:
thrown, each disc could be used as a homing disc, or could be just a normal disc (think the predator disc from AvP, or the ripper discs from UT, only smaller and weaker). Retrievable? Bouncing or not? Dunno.

Blaster Rifle: single shot, more powerful than a handblaster, but still accurate. Rifles of varying strengths could be used.

Grenade (used by non-Soldiers in the show at least): similar to a thermal detonator, only a bigger blast radius basically.

Digitizer (Sauron/Blastaar): Can instantly disintegrate a non-powersuited human in one shot, but requires a short charge up time and lock on first (so it takes time to line up a good shot, usually after a foe is cornered).

Built-In weapons: Blastaar shoots out of his fingers on each hand, so at maximum, he'd have ten shots coming out of his hands (long lasers I guess). His built-in shield can be used to block shots and reflect them back. Sauron has twin eye beams (long lasers again). Another note, Sauron and Blastaar have a certain "vision sense" that allows them to see through Scout's morphing and possibly detect a hiding human at a reasonable distance.

Sauron has both eye beam blasters and hand blasters (single shot from each wrist).

Fists:
Soldiers and Biodreds alike use these. And both are stronger physically than normal humans.

Ship/hoverbike blasters:
essentially the same as hand blasters, only larger and more powerful.

Kurgan

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BeastMaster
02-11-2001, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by Kurgan:
Blastaar [. . .] sometimes had 'lapses' that let me be confused easily.

Aha! Now it comes out! http://www.jediknight.net/mboard/wink.gif

The normal Dread soldiers were just robots, like highly advanced droids.

The Bio-Dreads (Sauron & Blastaar) contained genetic material crystalized into their structure (that was what allowed them to regenerate).

Blastaar also had a pair of treads that he could swing down onto his feet. Both he and Sauron were notoriously unstable if forced to rely on foot-power alone (they tended to make slow, deliberate steps).

The SotF did have grenades (as did the Dread troops), and Tank had a Grenade-launcher . . . actally, I think he just stuffed a grenade into the barrel of his cannon and used the "cork-in-a-bottle" principle.

As to the digitizer, what it did wasn't really to vapourize someone (that was only part of it), but to download their consciousness and gene-profile for eventual upload into Overmind (see below). Theoretically, it'd be possible for a digitized victim to be rematerialized --but only if he/she hadn't been consumed by Overmind.

ObTrek: Digitizing was kind of like transporting someone into the Borg Collective. You'd be de-materialized and stored in the digitizer's memory. When the bio-dread next interfaced with Overmind (to recharge), you'd be uploaded into Overmind as pure information.

Power also had acces to an AI called "Mentor" that appeared via hologram (confined to a mist-filled projector-tube) and interfaced with the Powerbase's systems. The hologram was patterned after Power's father (who'd invented the Power Suits), and Power thought of Mentor as a real person.

In the same way that Star Wars refers to the Clone War, Capt. Power refered to the Metal Wars. The Metal Wars signaled the beginning of the Machine Age, and they left most humans either digitized, dead, or living in scattered refugee camps trying to stay one step ahead of the extermination squads. Some humans were brought into the "Dread Youth" (like the "Hitler Youth" in WWII-era Germany), including a young Jennifer "Pilot" Chase. Dread rules in collusion with the Overmind, a sentient super-computer trying to bring Order to a chaotic Earth. Dread and Power's father were once fellow soldiers, but Dread went over to Overmind's faction (becoming a cyborg) and murdered the elder Power. At some point during the war, the human governments tried genetically engineering super-soldiers, but the soldiers went Berserker and started attacking both sides. Most Berserkers were killed off, but a few random survivers are still around (like Michael "Tank" Ellis).

The landscape is in ruins, cities destroyed, and desert has reclaimed most of North America. Dread rules from Volcania, a geothermal plant/fortress that the Borg Queen would find comfortable. This is a world akin to the "real" world in The Matrix, where the Machine rules all.

The series took place in the (then-former)USA, but we can presume that the rest of the world came through the Metal Wars as badly as the US.

Real names (as I remember them):

Capt. Jonathan Power

Maj. Matthew "Hawk" Masterson

?? Michael "Tank" Ellis

Sgt. Robert "Scout" Baker

Lt. Jessica "Pilot" Chase

Lord Jason(?) Dread

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Boba Rhett
02-11-2001, 10:55 PM
I got bored and went ahead and made one of the guns lastnight. http://www.geocities.com/boba_rhett/gun.gif

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Boba Rhett
02-12-2001, 04:21 AM
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~kurgan/cpblaster1.jpg I think it looks pretty close to this.
*edit* oh man http://www.jediknight.net/mboard/frown.gif I just noticed the barrel on the other picture. Guess its back to work for me.... http://www.jediknight.net/mboard/frown.gif *edit*

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Boba Rhett
02-12-2001, 07:26 AM
WHEN INSOMNIA AND BOREDOM COLLIDE!!!
http://www.geocities.com/boba_rhett/ship.bmp
This is the Phantom Striker right?

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Kurgan
02-12-2001, 03:06 PM
Wow, you guys really did your homework.
; )

Rhett, those are some killer models, good work there man! You'd have to compare the photos of the Phantom Striker. I have a PowerJet on order, but I don't have the PS, so you'd have to refer to the pics I posted (or more if you can find them). But it looks good thus far.

BeastMaster, whoa! Good work there buddy, I'm impressed. Good summary.

Actually Dread's name is Lymann (sp?) Taggart. And technically Dread didn't become a cyborg until after Power's father died (he was on his way to becoming a machine before that in spirit, so to speak). Like Darth Vader, he is "more machine now, than man, twisted and evil" when the show begins (in AD 2147).

Nice work guys.

Kurgan

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Garindan
02-12-2001, 04:24 PM
...hey rhett, nice orogamy!!! j/k it looks pretty good!

Boba Rhett
02-12-2001, 04:37 PM
Hey, that reminds me. Have any of you seen that prgram that turns 3dos and the like into flat paper cutouts so you can then fold them and make a paper model?

Boba Rhett
02-12-2001, 06:00 PM
Do you know how funny/awesome it would be if we actually banged out a mod from this?

<h1>LETS DO IT!!!!</h1>

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Boba Rhett
02-12-2001, 10:55 PM
*BUMP* were is everyone? http://www.jediknight.net/mboard/frown.gif

oninosensi
02-13-2001, 01:02 AM
Looks like I started something...

cool!

I might have some levels to add, but I would need help with cogs.

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Boba Rhett
02-13-2001, 01:31 AM
YEEHAAAWW!!!

Ok, will have to figure out who's doing what.
I say kurgan should be in charge of the project and tell all us worker bees what the heck we should do.

Kurgan
02-13-2001, 07:45 AM
Lol.. I think as long as this TC is compatible with the original tapes and guns, I'm all for it (j/k)! ; )

So, I'm the fat slug Queen bee that sits on her huge @#@ and lays eggs all day? Uhh, on second thought...

Boba Rhett
02-13-2001, 10:01 AM
I don't wanna do a tc but I would help with a patch. What does everyone think of that?
Well, I got bored again and I haven't slept for about 2 days now so.... http://www.geocities.com/boba_rhett/New-3.bmp
http://www.geocities.com/boba_rhett/New-5.bmp

I don't like it as much as the other ship but oh well.

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Boba Rhett
02-13-2001, 10:06 AM
*Starts seeing menkeys floating around on his screen.* *Reaches for gun...* I REALLY need some sleep. Must...kill...all...menkeys...

paulbarnard
02-13-2001, 05:33 PM
Monkey's or Meikes? There's only one Meike...As for monkeys, shoot enough of us and we will bit you, hard and in some area very soft and tender to your body....

Kurgan
02-14-2001, 01:08 AM
Hey, I think it would be a really cool idea to make ANY Captain Power related mods (for JK or any other viable game engine for that matter). It's a great idea, if people are willing to work on it.

Me, I probably won't be, although it might be cool to make a skin or two in the future, but I would rather work on a few other projects I have on the backburner.

However, if you guys want to work on it, I can help you out in that coincidentally, I am starting my collection and gathering source material (because I'm a fan re-discovering the whole phenomena after all these years).

I will be purchasing more of the videos and I plan to get them encoded in DivX format for each capturing of images/sounds. Thus I could help with that aspect. Also I am collecting some of the toys, so I contribute scans, etc.

Just an idea. But would I be willing to head a TC or extensive project? Nope. I wouldn't be able to give it the kind of commitement that a project like that would deserve, sorry.

Kurgan

Boba Rhett
02-14-2001, 01:20 AM
I don't wanna do a tc either. I was thinking about maybe a mod or two that turn you into different people from it. It would have a different player model, skins, weapons, maybe a few new sounds and maybe a multiplayer level. tcs never get finished anyway....

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Boba Rhett
02-14-2001, 09:40 AM
Did you know that your deemed clinically insane if you don't sleep for 4 days? HERE'S PROOF!!!
http://www.geocities.com/boba_rhett/smile.zip

ONLY DOWNLOAD THIS JEDI KNIGHT LEVEL IF YOU LOVE BOXES AND SMILEY FACES GETTING STABBED IN THE HEAD. Remember, I warned you...


*goes back to sit in bathtub full of jello so the forest midgets can't get his brainwaves*

Kurgan
02-14-2001, 10:44 AM
Actually I think the world record is 31 (around that number) days without sleeping.

The person who achieved that (she was in a contest) wasn't insane afterwards, they were just "a little tired."

It depends on the person. This radio guy tried it and he only got to day eight before he started having hallucinations. ; p

I have never made it past two days, so I don't know how I'd do... it's a fascinating topic really.

Sure, just call it a mod. Heck, I was thinking just a set of classes (like Manowars 3 or Halowan), or else a SP/coop level. Heck, even a skin/model/weapon pack would be fine, just something.

Kurgan

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BeastMaster
02-14-2001, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by Kurgan:
This radio guy tried it and he only got to day eight before he started having hallucinations

Heck, I have hallucinations after eight hours. http://www.jediknight.net/mboard/wink.gif

Just call me Ally McBeast.

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