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LadyCandy
04-28-2002, 11:41 AM
I heard that statistics(number of win/lose) of characters on multiplayers is recorded automatically by RavenSoft! :D

Is it true??? :bdroid1: Pls tell me more if it is ! :amidala:

rwhitty
04-28-2002, 12:39 PM
I dont knw about Ravensoft but if you want to see your ranking you can go to this site.

http://csports.computerandvideogames.com/

thetoll
04-28-2002, 02:24 PM
That is only if you are a member of that site not if you play Jedi.

Darth Viersaan
04-28-2002, 02:37 PM
Yes.

Krazx
04-28-2002, 04:31 PM
If you look in your \GameData\base directory, there is a file called "games.log". It keeps a VERY detailed account of the matches that you play, including who killed who, what was used, console commands you use, the model you use, etc.

It's spyware if you ask me, and I have half a mind (not puns please) to delete that file everytime I start a game.

I don't know if or when it gets sent to lucasarts/ravensoft, but there is just too much information there that I don't think they need to know.

some god
04-28-2002, 05:20 PM
all games keep a log like that, or erm... most do.

anyway the use for it is: if a server wants to put up a statistiks page with a ladder and such things, this is needed.

if an server admin needs to see what realy hapend at one or another time (so he can corectly ban, lift a ban, see if one of the other admins are behaving like a jerk)

that sort of stuff, and no it is not your log that is beeing sent to the server, the server got it's own.

it can also be used by you too se what hapend...

Kurgan
04-29-2002, 12:56 AM
Besides, what good would it do Raven to collect that information from you?

If they really wanted stats from each user, they'd look for your system information, or your registry (to see if you had a legit copy), but your game stats? I'm sure they could care less, and with the rate some people play, they'd be swamped in files before long.

I wouldn't worry about it. Q3Offline uses the stats to post html pages, for example.

rwhitty
04-29-2002, 08:11 AM
You don't have to be a member of csport to find out your ranking. I'm not a member and have no problem accessing the database of rankings for JO.

Krazx
05-01-2002, 12:31 AM
That's strange, I went to that computer and videogames website, and they have me in there. It is powered by GameSpy. I don't know how they exactly operate, but I assume they watch server activity somehow.

I am not a member of that site, and had never been there before. When I went there, I did a lookup on my name and got some pretty amazingly acurate stats. I know it couldn't be anyone else with my name either because most people don't even know how to spell it correctly, let alone copy me.

DMarco
05-01-2002, 02:53 AM
Yea, found myself in there too ... for both JK2 and Global Ops ... nice of them to tell us neh?

swediot=)
05-01-2002, 02:56 AM
i think its pretty cool that they can do that :D

BigMexican
05-01-2002, 04:57 AM
heh, i saw that gamelog file thingy, opened it, couldnt make sense of it so i deleted it ... no ill effects yet?

seanconnery
05-01-2002, 05:05 AM
Cool, I'm ranked 183 out of 119772 players in FFA. :)

some god
05-01-2002, 05:15 AM
Originally posted by Krazx
That's strange, I went to that computer and videogames website, and they have me in there. It is powered by GameSpy. I don't know how they exactly operate, but I assume they watch server activity somehow.

I am not a member of that site, and had never been there before. When I went there, I did a lookup on my name and got some pretty amazingly acurate stats. I know it couldn't be anyone else with my name either because most people don't even know how to spell it correctly, let alone copy me.

you don't need to be a member of these kind f sites (usualy) to see your stats or to have them listed on thire site, this is how they can keep track of you,

Servers send out info about:
maximum number of users,
number of users curently playing on it,
how long each of the users have played,
the ingame name of the user,
the number of kills of the user,
number of deaths of the user (don't know if they do in jk2 tho),
the pings the diferent users have,
the setings the server have (like fraglimit, pure server and that sort of stuff)

all this info is sent out so that server browsers like the ingame one or The all seeing eye (http://www.udpsoft.com/eye/) can list properly and show you if a server is ff on, a friend is playing there and all players on it are crap (all got -3 in score) and so on...

now these companys that create the ranking sites just scan all the servers all the time and put all of this info on a site and ranks you, altho these sites are not realy trustable since anyone can just change thire name, get -5000 in score and compleatly wreck your score

for those who could understand me and ignore my spelling misstakes (my first language is not english, not even my second hehe) i hope i shed some light on how they "monitor" your actions.

Krazx
05-01-2002, 01:48 PM
Thanks some god, I pretty much assumed that was what they did since they are "powered by GameSpy".

That sheds some light on the subject. Unfortunately, I have used about 20 different names in the game, so my score is not accurate there... but it's neat nonetheless.

Jhenne
05-01-2002, 05:03 PM
whats funny is if you look at who holds the top ranks.



1 Mon_Mothma
2 Galak
3 Krussk
4 Reelo
5 Reborn
6 Shadowtrooper
7 TK-421
8 Desann
9 Rebel
10 Tavion
11 Jedi
12 Lando
13 Lieutenant_Cabbel
14 Ree-Yees
15 Luke


go bots! (i know its cause the bots get more hours of play in than anyone else, but its still funny as hell)

Kurgan
05-01-2002, 05:11 PM
Then again, getting stats from a few thousand servers wouldn't be that tough, compared with getting stats for tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of individual players. ; p

Prime
05-02-2002, 04:18 PM
What does http://csports.computerandvideogames.com/ base the rankings on? Is it most kills? Or if you beat someone that is ranked higher than you you move up? I didn't come across any info about that on the site, but I didn't look very hard :p

Are there some other sites out there that have similar kinds of rankings? Anyone care to list some?

LadyCandy
05-03-2002, 08:31 AM
:amidala: hey guys,thx for helpin me out
;)
by the way,do u know any FREE multiplayer online games that is like Ultima Online but its FREE?no fees or anything?...i know it sounds crazy... :bdroid1:

swediot=)
05-03-2002, 09:59 AM
what kinda of a :swear: :swear: game makes u pay to let u play it over the inte net thats pretty sad man jeez

BigMexican
05-03-2002, 10:40 AM
a lot of games do it ... particularly the big rpgs

swediot=)
05-03-2002, 08:44 PM
oh ok i didn't know that :eek:

TegSkywalker
05-03-2002, 11:31 PM
Spyware? hehe do you even know what spyware is? The CLQ (www.theclq.com) has been doing this for years and been keeping stats from back in the Quake 1 days. They aren't spying on you or anything.

Now that I mention it, I bet alot of you have KAZAA (with all of its lovely spyware) and don't know about it. Yet you claim that stat tracking in a Quake engine game is a breach of your rights. I don't know what to say.

ldeviator
05-04-2002, 03:44 AM
Christ people... paranoid much? Did you just get out of the asylum?

Hondo0o0o0
05-04-2002, 04:25 PM
If you dont want info written to the games.log file just delete the contents of the file and set the properties to read only.


Hondo

Laertes
05-04-2002, 04:28 PM
its all games of the mind. pranoya is what its at. the stats won't be send out...and even if it did, only those of guilty conscience would care =/

hardasanut
05-05-2002, 05:27 AM
remember "the last starfighter"?

yes, exactly.

soon, the true jedi will arise to fight back the dark forces who have overshadowed our world, in the eternal ballet of good versus evil, light versus dark, an interplay of cosmic proportions, a response to the cosmic balance...

but wait...

...a bot will save us?!?!
--------

i didn't take myself seriously; this may explain why i have yet to fulfill my megalomaniacal dream and subvert all of humanity through all time periods.

oh, and i'm just posting for fun; this may be my first and last post.

sorry if i brought you a couple minutes closer to death without giving you any worthwhile compensation. i hope to love you anyway. (i didn't take myself seriously). :o