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Paladin
08-24-2001, 09:37 PM
Do u think this will be the best RTS for 2001-2002?

Darth Maul Jr.
08-24-2001, 09:43 PM
Most definitely, Warcraft 3 looks stupid..they cant even make up their minds about what the game is gonna look like and they still sticking to that old top down perspective which limits the amount of detail you see on the units. This game is gonna be the bomb...i still play Age of Kings expansion pak and this game looks 10 times better!

Paladin
08-24-2001, 09:45 PM
I never was dissapointed with an RTS game until i played Warcraft and Starcraft! Star warz battlegroundz all the way!

Tie Guy
08-24-2001, 09:46 PM
No, joke, and i'm not exxagerationg, this game could be one of the best RTS's of all time. It combines several different ones and they made it look all nice, molding it into a truly great game, then adding in Star Wars. Only time will tell i quess, but it sure looks awesome.

It certainly will be the rts of the year, and if not it will most definately be one of my favorites.

Darth Maul Jr.
08-24-2001, 09:57 PM
I think you're right. They did the right thing by going ahead and adding naval units despite a lack in interest in them.. That way they totally have all the bases covered and represent every aspect of war..land, air and sea. I dont want to jinx but they have all the elements needed and they are poised to make this the best RTS game you can possibly have on a 2D format...or 3D.

darthfergie
08-24-2001, 09:59 PM
I thought this would be a poll, but oh well.
On the RTS Subject...most likly yes..:D

Lord JayVizIon
08-25-2001, 12:45 AM
damn, warcraft III looks stupid? you should ask some of the game players from groups such as pc gamer that question and see how they respond.

well, i'd think that this game has the potential to be rts of the year. i'm a pretty big star wars fan and such as some of you guys, i've been waiting for lucasarts to make an rts game indicative of their reputation and i'm a big rts fan in the first place. with many playable units, i think this game will be one of the best if not the best of all time....

Admiral Odin
08-25-2001, 01:10 AM
It has a very good chance.

With SW in fron it will sell very well.

crazy_dog
08-25-2001, 05:29 AM
Either this, or Black and White, or maybe RA2.

Compa_Mighty
08-25-2001, 12:45 PM
Star Wars Battlegrounds.

Let me tell you why: Empire Earth doesn't look as good as SWGB.
Age of Mythology has a high risk of having strange features, because the people at ES are going nuts (green snow?) And because 3D RTS is brand new, it may have some flaws at the beginning.

Paragon_Leon
08-25-2001, 12:59 PM
in my mind, 3D RTS has a major flaw in viewpoint-simplicity. 2D games have a fixed viewpoint that NEVER interferes with the action. 3D games do have that.
That's why i feel that a 2D game like GB will rule the coming years.

darthfergie
08-25-2001, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by Paragon_Leon
in my mind, 3D RTS has a major flaw in viewpoint-simplicity. 2D games have a fixed viewpoint that NEVER interferes with the action. 3D games do have that.
That's why i feel that a 2D game like GB will rule the coming years.

Maybe not AoM...WCIII:eek:

Tie Guy
08-25-2001, 02:00 PM
What they should do is have a 2d game, but shap it from say....4 perspective. Yoiu could have a hotkey for each angle. So, if you needed a different view, you could simply and seamlessly switch. Maybe that is the step that is between 2d and 3d that seems to be missing. 2d is getting outdated and low-tech, but 3d is too hard and complicated. 2d-4, as i've dubbed it, could be a good way to manage it.

xwing guy
08-25-2001, 02:40 PM
Yeah you could have a top view like in GB, a ground level view, a closer top view, and a above ground view thats just a little off the ground at about half an AT-ATs height.

Mitth'raw'nuruodo
08-25-2001, 02:49 PM
GB is giong to be the biggest, best RTS EVER! It is going to TOTALLY BOMB out the market. I can't wait!!! :freakout:

Darth_Rommel
08-25-2001, 02:53 PM
It's going to sell well... but best RTS ever? Thats gonna be hard to achieve :(

Tie Guy
08-25-2001, 03:02 PM
Is it though? I don't think so. It is way ahead of all the others. It has 6 (not 3) unique and individual civs. It has all the gameplay of AOK TC and then alot more after that with the air units. It combines the best of everything, and it will be the best rts yet, if it remains as it is right now. That doesn't mean it will be better than AOM, or WC3, but i think it will be, and it will certainly be the best yet IMO.

Wedge
08-25-2001, 03:07 PM
AoM is gonna be cool and probably the 1st runner up to GB, But GB is gonna be the best because AoE Fans Will Buy + Star Wars fans will buy = Double Sales. :D

Lord JayVizIon
08-25-2001, 03:44 PM
hmm, it's hard to say b/c this is the first of the big rts games to come out this year. i wouldn't rule out AoM and WC 3 just b/c of the viewpoint. from everything i've heard, WC 3 is supposed to be sick (blizzard always produces the goods)! i've played myth II with a 3D perspective and i thought it played okay, although there were some minor flaws there. however, you'd really have to wait and see the other rts games to come out to really put a valid statement out there.

xwing guy
08-25-2001, 04:55 PM
What other RTS games are coming out this year and next year?

jigga
08-25-2001, 05:51 PM
I am looking forward to Warcraft 3. I think it looks promising. But that game wont be coming out for a while so right now Iam dreaming about Galactic battlegrounds.

Darth_Rommel
08-25-2001, 05:54 PM
I hated Warcraft 2... so I don't think I'll like the sequel too much. What is the story? :confused:

Darth Maul Jr.
08-25-2001, 10:38 PM
Warcraft 3 looks stupid...first it was goign to be a hero driven game...a hero and a band of units for intricate detailed combat and role-playing (kinda like Warlords: Battlecry) then they nixed all of that went back to top down, build peons, build thousands of units. So basically what they did is wuss out of goin in a new direction like WL: Battlecry and go back to an old format, which has been done better in 3d than what Blizzard is doing...the units for warcraft 3 look stupid, they're 3d but they look like 3d graphics from like 4 years ago...take a look at the Quake, Unreal and Max Payne engines and you'll see how 3d should look today..Age of Mythology doesnt seem all that interesting since most of mythology was hero and heroine driven instead of grand scale war driven. Plus the units look dumb and dont sound like they would belong in an army! This game is gonna light it up and as soon as it looks like it might get stale they're gonna release a cool expansion pak with new civs, units, technologies and stuff to get it all started again.

Lord JayVizIon
08-25-2001, 11:51 PM
ummm, no and no. that's pretty early judgement for two games that are not even close to being finished.

millen
08-26-2001, 07:31 AM
GB may be good but there is no way that it will beat games like EE and AoM. :(

Tie Guy
08-26-2001, 12:37 PM
EE?

Anyways, you don;t know anything about AOM yet, so how can you say that. We know relatively alot about GB, and we can all see that it will be an awesome game. We can debate all we want about AOM being better, be we don't know. One thing i do know is that I will like GB better than AOM, and probably won't even get AOM. So, in my mind it will be the best ever, much better than AOM.

Lord JayVizIon
08-26-2001, 02:58 PM
EE is short for empire earth. i haven't heard about that game so i'm going to leave that alone.

yes, i think swgb will be an awesome game. hoewever, it'll be fair to not place an early prediction for AoM and WC 3 b/c those games have two different perspectives for the rts genre different from swgb. eitherway, it's possible all 3 games could be the three best in rts.

Drakeon
08-26-2001, 04:43 PM
i agree with VizIon, Blizzard has put in a top of the line editor so you can edit almost everything for maps... which makes WC3 look all the better, but im guessing it wont come out till summer 2002... Blizzard ALWAYS delays there games.

I think GB has the potential to be a very good RTS, I just hope it delivers... *remembers playing force commander and shudders*

Darth_Rommel
08-26-2001, 04:45 PM
It will... it's already a better game than force commandeer, and AOK... If you can imagine a game better than AOK ;)

Drakeon
08-26-2001, 05:01 PM
personally i liked Starcraft better then AOK simply because of the Editor and all the different type maps that people would make and you'd play over the internet.

Master Yoda
08-26-2001, 09:14 PM
There are quite alot of maps for AOK as well. Personally Im not going to get WC III,EE, or AOM so GBG is going ot be the BEST RTS of ALL TIME for me!!:D

Darth Maul Jr.
08-26-2001, 10:34 PM
A good game is not determined by its editor!:eek:

Drakeon
08-26-2001, 10:36 PM
o, and what gave you that idea? the editor makes starcrafts replay value 10x better imo.

and it has a great story.

Just dont bash a game before it has come out. Thats all i ask.

Lord JayVizIon
08-27-2001, 03:11 AM
well, i'm planning on getting swgb, AoM, and WC 3 when they all come out so i'll see for myself how it works out. it's not fair to judge other games when they're not even being close to being released.

i'll say this though, the fact that i'm a star wars fan combined with this game's promising future is making this experience special.

Paragon_Leon
08-27-2001, 10:52 AM
i most likely won't get WC3 and i'm even hesitating about AoM. I'm a solid fan of 2D RTS, and both seem to be off a bit from the looks of it.
An editor makes or breaks a game, guys. AOK has the big community it has right now because of two things; great multiplay first AND... a great editor.

JEDI_MASTA
08-27-2001, 11:01 AM
the only things iv heard about age of mythology or read acctually was really confusing so i think swgb will be a better game. its also unfair to campare them because there both rts games but one is in 3d and the other is in 2d it makes for two different gaming experiences therefore not comparable and since all the bugs havnt been really worked out of the 3d system yet im going to say gb will play better and it has star wars i mean that makes it kick AoM but right away:D

trade fed fred
08-27-2001, 02:25 PM
defenatly!!
it's better than Aok and they are paying attention to the thoughts of the future gamers.
:bdroid2: =====:amidala:

Paladin
08-28-2001, 12:47 PM
AoM looks good and will hopefully sort out the glitch but SWBG is going 2 be better!;)

Darth_Rommel
08-28-2001, 12:49 PM
AOM has great graphics, but from what I've read, not so great gameplay :(

Paladin
08-28-2001, 12:53 PM
Yeah, i heard about that 2. The Graphics rating will be high but the gameplay will bring it's score down.:(

JEDI_MASTA
08-28-2001, 01:02 PM
AS LONG AS GAMEPLAY IS GOOD GRAPHICS DONT HAVE TO BE THAT GREAT U CANNOT GET A BESTSELLER ON GRAPHIX ALONE

Paladin
08-28-2001, 01:07 PM
Yeah, I know.
i only AoM had good gameplay:rolleyes:

JEDI_MASTA
08-28-2001, 01:55 PM
ensemble will work the bugs out of the 3d system and will make it a playable game with decent gameplay but swgb appeals to 3 audiences star wars AoK and the RTS fans it should be one of the best atleast

Darth_Rommel
08-28-2001, 02:35 PM
But all the AOK fans will buy AOM (probably)... S it will probably sell just as well...

p.s. One finger typing is hard :(

Lord JayVizIon
08-28-2001, 06:56 PM
i heard about that AoM gameplay as well. in fact, isn't the game based around heroes rather than large masses of units?

however, ensemble studios is behind the works and they made AoK and are the backbone for swgb. i wouldn't necessarily count them out yet.

do any of you remember when initial reports of swgb didn't look so bright b/c gameplay was off and that unit scale was horrendous? my point exactly.....

Mitth'raw'nuruodo
08-28-2001, 07:29 PM
I don't know that there will be a whole lot of competition for GB. AoM is kinda messed with the 3D and stuff. It seems to me that it's like a supposed to be a mod for FoCom gone terribly wrong almost. And Warcraft III? Well, that's definately out. Only 2 measely races. i know only one person that wants that over GB. I think GB will hit the shelves and make a first class appearance, selling millions of copies. But that's me. Hopefully I'm right.

Darth Maul Jr.
08-28-2001, 08:43 PM
You are right Lord JayVislon that SWGB was kinda clunky at first, but this game has had loads of potential from the start, plus its done nothing but get better and add more...bigger units, more units and such where as Warcraft 3 has only show less and less as time goes on. Less races, it started with 6, then 5, then down to 4. It started with good gameplay then went back to Warcraft, Warcraft 2, Starcraft, Red Alert, Dune, and just about any other RTS style of game-play.

EndSub
09-26-2001, 11:36 PM
the day i lost interest in WC3.....wa the day they sucked all the originality out.... :(

CompuKyle
09-28-2001, 11:15 PM
To me GB will be the best because I'm running a PII 350 mhz and 4mb VRAM.So GB will probably be like the only strategy game that runs on my computer.:atat:

VashtheStampede
09-28-2001, 11:36 PM
If the gameplay is good, the graphics shouldn't really matter. I.E. - Pong, missle command.....

Maybe the gameplay will be soooooo perfect the graphics won't matter.......right..........sure....hopefully..... .

EndSub
09-28-2001, 11:46 PM
Originally posted by VashtheStampede
If the gameplay is good, the graphics shouldn't really matter. I.E. - Pong,

PONG!?! IMHO Pong isn't the greatest example of class gameplay ;)

darthfergie
09-28-2001, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by Darth_Rommel
But all the AOK fans will buy AOM (probably)... S it will probably sell just as well...

p.s. One finger typing is hard :(

Actually AoM won't be out for forever so most of the will get Empire Earth...