PDA

View Full Version : I am a Gunwhore!!! Is there something wrong with that?


-=VIB=- Wang
05-02-2002, 03:08 PM
^4Gunwhore ^3Wang is usually who I play as. Yes, I love guns and I love killing people with them. JK2 seems incomplete unless I am playing with guns. If I wanted a saber fight, I would go duel (which btw is quite fun!). But there are always those guys on the servers who complain about me using weapons! WTF!?!? Hey moron, if you wanted to play without weapons, go to a no gun server!!! Otherwise, learn what force pull is! Luckily, I am pretty good w/ the medium saber stance, so when these morons do say something, I can usually whoop up on them when they do complain. That's the problem w/ mp games nowadays! Too many complainers! Remember the time when Scorched Earth was popular, and you could play but not talk to each other? ARRGHH!!! :lsduel: I don't care anymore. Kill me. Blah...

Abom|nation
05-02-2002, 03:12 PM
I have no problem with people using guns on a server that well... allows guns, that's the whole point of course. I too hate the idiots that complain about people using guns as if the lightsaber is the only weapon to use on that server, I usually tell them to shove it and/or go to a duel server :)

NewBJedi
05-02-2002, 03:16 PM
Yah, that's the point of saber only servers, for people who don't like guns. . .

:mob:

pcmacman
05-02-2002, 03:37 PM
I love playing with servers with guns, even if I'm mosty a saber only person. Its really fun to block 100% of the shots by a heavy repeater that someone is shooting at you and then you go to kill them and they unleash the secondary fire on you. I actually enjoy that, its alot of fun.

Kurgan
05-02-2002, 04:16 PM
No, there's nothing wrong with playing the game how you want to play it, so long as you don't cheat in multiplayer! (unless you're the server enabling cheats, heh)

Pvt_Dancer
05-02-2002, 04:20 PM
Looks like you have overwhelming support on this on so far. I too don't mind people playing with guns. I tend not to because there are a thousand FPSs out there with guns and not so many with lightsabers.

But I will use them if I feel like it. Its part of Star Wars just as much as the lightsaber.

hyrit
05-02-2002, 05:06 PM
Guns are ok with me. Only part I don't like is when it's just mindless camping with scattered showers of spam. A few times I got so sick of it, I counter-spammed. And yeah, I camped too. I must have done a decent job, but I didn't have much fun doing it. Funny thing is, next game, no one was camping or spamming anymore...

Now what I like is when you have a blaster fight with someone...

GooglyMoogly
05-02-2002, 05:33 PM
Are there still MP games with guns out there?. Whats the point?. If I want guns I'd play Q3, UT, T2, CS, EF, HF etc...

Sabers only baby.

toolboi
05-02-2002, 05:42 PM
Guns are cool, the problem is that they are slightly over powered. Theres almost no way a saberist can get close enough to some one with a flak cannon or repeater to kill them. Also, the block rate of sabers even with maxed skill seems WAY too low.

Pseudonym
05-02-2002, 05:46 PM
I've been using guns more lately too. I'm learning their awesome power.
But I think, in the next patch, they should make the Alt Repeater and Alt Flechette fire more slowy; that way it's possible to force push it away.

OnlyOneCanoli
05-02-2002, 05:53 PM
I have no problems with gunwhores. I lean towards guns myself, anyway. The only time I get slightly irked by gunners is in a map like duel_bay, where there is a stormtrooper rifle that people like to use to riddle people in the back with. It annoys me at first, but I really have no right to complain: the server is allowing guns, and guns are on the map. So I deal with it.

bellenberger
05-02-2002, 05:53 PM
I agree. I like playing on gun servers for the challenge, but I agree they are unbalanced. Pull doesn't work all that well (in my experience it requires you to be fairly close and aimed perfectly and even then it's 75%). Also, the guns can spam way too much with area effect damage. What I see in multiplayer is some guy with an area effect weapon find a group of 3 or 4 people battling with sabers and take them all out with a barrage of rockets.

The main thing is that there is no penalty for using guns, and alot of benefits. Why not use a rocket launcher? You get all force powers and the lightsaber just like anyone else. Worst case anyone can do to you is pull your gun, at which point you have a saber like anyone else. Really, besides toning down guns and improving pull is to make it so that you have a choice between being a gunslinger or a jedi/sith. You want lightsaber and force powers? Well, you don't get any guns.

Brian Ellenberger

hyrit
05-02-2002, 06:07 PM
I'd sorta like to see the "force powers" changed to abilities in general...that way if you want to use guns, you need to spend at least some points... All too often, people can spam like crazy with the guns, then change to a saber and play like everyone else once they run out of ammo. Also it'd reduce the number of saberists out there, which would make it a bit more like the movies.

How many times did you see a movie stormtrooper(HEY YOU THERE! sorry had to) run out of ammo, then pull out a lightsaber? Wait...they never run out of ammo...they're killed to fast...nevermind. :D

Johner
05-02-2002, 07:07 PM
I think that having Saber Force AND GUNS brings out the most in the saber and the force. The saber is still a dam good weapon and so is the force. I don't think guns are unbalanced because the better guns are rarer and even so there are many counters to them besides using guns.

I also feel that JKII makers have done a great job staying true to the movies, a good player with just a saber and the force can be number 1 on a server than uses guns.

Saber only is freaking gay. 1 WEAPON! And very little skill. Just a bunch of nonstop swinging or the finishing move with only a few force powers that do much since guns are present. No blocking projectiles, no stealing weapons with pull, no dodging snipers with force seeing, no repeling with the saber so no killing gunners with their own freaking bullets (this happens ALL THE TIME, its fun both ways as well shooting at saber blockers and getting shot at while blocking), no pushing rockets and other projectiles, ETC ETC ETC. Guns make sabers and the force what they are! You get the full balanced experience this way. I think people should try to give gun servers another chance by mixing up their force powers and playing styles.

Furthermore I don't think there is a perfect counter for everything in this game or any FPS for that matter, at least not in the way the word counter is being thrown around now. I think that the only true counter is better skill.

hyrit
05-02-2002, 07:12 PM
Don't get me wrong..I have an absolute blast playing against gunners. It's just that a few aspects of it sometimes reduces the game to mindless spamming like all the other FPS games out there. As for how hard it is to get the higher weapons, after a few days of playing, you know where weapons are in the maps... That's no problem, and no matter what you do, if someone wants the rocket launcher, they WILL get it eventually. Then again, my only gripe is the secondary fire of the uh...whatever it is...the thing that's almost like a shotgun... Yeah...that thing. Even then though, it's funny to push it back at whoever fired it...even if it doesn't go far enough, it makes them panic usually. :D

I still want to be able to pull an Akira when someone fires a rocket at me...it'd be so nice to just bring it to a grinding halt in mid-air just in front of you...then push it back. But hell, I also want a pony. Err, wait, no I...uh...forget I said that...

Pedantic
05-02-2002, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by hyrit
I still want to be able to pull an Akira when someone fires a rocket at me...it'd be so nice to just bring it to a grinding halt in mid-air just in front of you...then push it back. But hell, I also want a pony. Err, wait, no I...uh...forget I said that...

What's an "Akira?" :confused:

TheMadDoofer
05-02-2002, 08:03 PM
Don't worry Wang. I'm a "Gunwhore" too. On the zone, I'm BiggishGator9.

:fett:

hyrit
05-02-2002, 09:36 PM
Akira is a now aging anime that revolved around a teenager who develops insane powers. One of them was telekinesis...there's a scene where a tank fires a shell at him, and he doesn't even move...he brings the shell to a complete halt with his mind alone, then sends it flying back at the tank. And yes, this was a long time before the Matrix. :)

It's also known as having one of the more stomach turning endings...let's just say he literally outgrows his own skin. :D

igor
05-02-2002, 09:43 PM
If its in the game then its ok to do. Whether you are camping, using saber only, using guns only, push people off ledges, drain people, use heavy stance, or whatever. It adds variety to the game, people should do what they enjoy. People should stop complaining about everything and play the damn game.

-=VIB=- Wang
05-02-2002, 10:20 PM
Akira was the ****! It used to be one of my favorite animes! I can't believe that it is about 10 years old now. Anyways, I figured that I would get flamed for my post! I almost didn't write it. It's good to see that most of you realize that if you don't like guns that you shouldn't play on servers with them! I guess that it shows that those of you who post are more experienced in Multiplayer games. I was just starting to get tired of the complainers saying that I have no skill and am a gunwhore. Ever since I quit my clan on Tuesday :/, I have renamed to Gunwhore Wang. It's surprising how people get mad at that name! Anyways, I am glad that there ARE smarter people out there. Maybe I should hang around this forum more often!

- Wang

acdcfanbill
05-02-2002, 10:53 PM
im primarly a sabrest, but even i love showering a load of people in alt repeter fire :evil3: i guess its my dark side unleashed :D

oh, and you guys like Ghost in the Shell too? that movie is cool too, and make you think...

General Theros
05-03-2002, 01:23 AM
I too am mostly a saberist.....but I am pretty mean with the sniper rifle too! :) I really get a kick out of getting two guys lined up in my scope and sniping them both with one shot..... :) that is great! Anyway, my zone name is General Theros....... hehe of course, so if anyone wants to duel sometime or just have some fun....look me up when I'm on. I'm pretty mean with a saber, though I got my butt handed to me the other day by a guy who was just flat out awesome. I only beat him three times out of the 15 times we challenged each other. Anyway, happy gaming.

General Theros

SPY_jmr1
05-03-2002, 01:28 AM
I got my butt handed to me the other day by a guy who was just flat out awesome. I only beat him three times out of the 15 times we challenged each other.

do you remember a name? just wondering....:cool:

Elijah
05-03-2002, 01:41 AM
I Agree fully! Guns OWN.

I Also cant stand playing without force... mostly becuse i love jump. when people ask me to play NF duels i say "if i want to swing sticks... id play another game" becuse Sabers without force is like Penutbutter and jelly without Jelly :D it just doesnt work!

SPY_jmr1
05-03-2002, 01:50 AM
I am waiting for the capability to just have jump and maybe saber throw.


then NS streets journey to the w00t side will be complete:D

there HAS to be a be a way to do this...

what do you guys think?

paulbob
05-03-2002, 02:05 AM
Originally posted by GooglyMoogly
Are there still MP games with guns out there?. Whats the point?. If I want guns I'd play Q3, UT, T2, CS, EF, HF etc...

Sabers only baby.

Totally agree. I mean really... guns... wtf?? seriously...

What's the name of this game again?
Oh yeah, JEDI Knight II. Emphasis on the JEDI.

JEDI.

I just have to say one thing. I don't know about any of you, but I never saw Luke running around with a Flechette... A Jedi is a Jedi for his mastery of the force and the lightsaber, not for shooting rockets... Maybe I missed that scene or maybe my dvd is broken, but I never saw Yoda teaching Luke how to use a rocket launcher...

I'm not trying to denounce anyone for using guns. I'm really not. I'm just saying, Jedi Knight II is one of the only good games out right now that lets you use a lightsaber. Why not take advantage of it?

If you want to use guns, sure, go ahead, I have no problem. But in my opinion, there are PLENTY of better games out there that have guns.

As for me, I'll stick to saber only servers. For guns, I'll go play Q3, UT, T2, CS, EF, HF etc...

hyrit
05-03-2002, 07:23 AM
I used to try to find saber only places...but then I remembered something. Would Jedi skills be half as impressive if they never fought against people with guns in the movies? Once I started thinking about it, it was like Superman bouncing bullets off his chest...you simply MUST have it. These days i specifically look for ones with guns enabled...even if I don't use them.

And as for the alt fire of...uh...that shotgun thing-whatever-it-is... It's only a problem for me if it's in a tight area...if I can get to an open area, then I have some real fun with it. Jumping and rolling all over the place dodging the mine things is a surefire crowd-pleaser. What's really good is when you sit there dodging so much that they just run out of ammo...and run away. That's when you switch to medium and start pulling them.

"Get over here!" *bzzt* :D

Kaio23
05-03-2002, 06:45 PM
Uh yes, being a prostitute screwing guns isn't a good business man. First, they don't pay in cash...eh?

Shiik
05-03-2002, 11:15 PM
i dont really care for guns. But i dont care if people use them. Am i the only one, or do other people really need like a medieval knight kind of game? Thats y i bot JKII. The sabers. For some reason, im like a sword fanatic. And most people who complain about guns dont know the secret. Bind keys that u can acess easy to push and pull. I can block the reapeater, and i can just push the explosive thing back! Its fun! Same with rockets. Here's what it's like on their screen: Ok. Im locking on. Locked. Fire! Yes! it's gonna hit! huh? what the, ahhhh!BOOM! it's funny.

Saient
05-04-2002, 12:36 AM
Im sure this has been and old aged saying...

the Jedi became all but extinct in the clone wars.

lets think. hmmm maybe they clone sith in episode 3 and have 30,000 sith wipe the jedi out??.. yeah. thats right... maybe they weren't all wiped out by Clone Soldiers and maybe jedi's are soilders and not keepers of the peace.

I just come to the conclusion everytime that this is a game.. just a game, but from the gun point of view.. I wish the guns were a little better, some of them worked well in the SinglePlayer game but their dynamics don't work in multi, same goes for the saber.. I wish there was more to it! and also the force.

the game just needs a mod makeover.. hopfully Raven will do an expansion with differnt game modes.. which would keep the old players happy and maybe some players out there yearning for something different can be happier too, but something Starwars at the sametime. It would be nice to see a character class based mode..with objectives.

Anyway as it stands guns are fine with me, sabers are fine with me.

be force may with you





:confused:

smwScott
05-04-2002, 02:02 AM
Hehe, I haven't had JO for very long, but I find the best thing to do online is go into a FFA and shoot people who are having saber fights. If one of them makes me mad I'll push em' down for the other guy. It always proves rewarding to here some guy call me a panzy because I blew off his balls with a disruptor while he was prancing around with a saber.

Elijah
05-04-2002, 05:39 AM
Originally posted by smwScott
Hehe, I haven't had JO for very long, but I find the best thing to do online is go into a FFA and shoot people who are having saber fights. If one of them makes me mad I'll push em' down for the other guy. It always proves rewarding to here some guy call me a panzy because I blew off his balls with a disruptor while he was prancing around with a saber.
Hell ya man!

I like going into my Favorit CTF matches and Blast the hell out of the *use your sabers* people :D or grip them off a cliff or push them over and watch 30 team mates rush up to slash him to bits :D

BoyInAWhelchair
05-04-2002, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by -=VIB=- Wang
^4Gunwhore ^3Wang is usually who I play as. Yes, I love guns and I love killing people with them. JK2 seems incomplete unless I am playing with guns. If I wanted a saber fight, I would go duel (which btw is quite fun!). But there are always those guys on the servers who complain about me using weapons! WTF!?!? Hey moron, if you wanted to play without weapons, go to a no gun server!!! Otherwise, learn what force pull is! Luckily, I am pretty good w/ the medium saber stance, so when these morons do say something, I can usually whoop up on them when they do complain. That's the problem w/ mp games nowadays! Too many complainers! Remember the time when Scorched Earth was popular, and you could play but not talk to each other? ARRGHH!!! :lsduel: I don't care anymore. Kill me. Blah...

What is needed is the IGNORE function that Raven had instituted in Heretic2. It was a console command that allowed you to filter who you communicate with. It was very helpfull for peaceful play.

A Boy In A Wheelchair