View Full Version : Simple; Is the new version playable or not?
05-15-2002, 01:41 PM
1.03, if it is playable, and you can hack the cherry, then say YES
1.02, if you can't hack the cherry, then NO
(*hack the cherry=play it)
05-15-2002, 01:52 PM
Thats rather general, don't you think, a game this good could never be made unplayable by minor alterations. Definatly playable!!! :)
05-15-2002, 01:56 PM
Of course it's playable..
05-15-2002, 01:57 PM
Well if anyone wants to give opinions on wether the game needs modifications in 1.04 or not, there are other threads for that, but I mean it comes down to this. Is the game playable at all for You at 1.03? I think it needs some heavy tweaking, but I still joyfully play it all the time ;)
Perfect? No. Playable? Yes. Better than it was before? Absolutely.
05-15-2002, 02:08 PM
There seems to be a huge difference in the number of people viewing this thread and those making an active contibution to the poll.
C'mon people, poll's are the chief way of getting feedback on this forum. If you haven't registered, do so, talking here is fun, if you have, then there is no excuse, vote so that we can get some kind of conclusive evidence here.
Gloop, we've done those polls a lot, and on every one of them, the majority of the posters think 1.03 is better.
05-15-2002, 04:29 PM
05-15-2002, 04:31 PM
The version is definitely playable. It's not without flaws, but it is far far from unplayable. The main thing this patch did was cater to duelers. Thats why a good chunk of people like this patch...a good chunk of people like me are primarily duelers. This same group of people mostly isn't concerned with trying to win as much as possible, as fast as possible, but rather in good strategic fights. This patch gives you that.
To sum up, I voted YES. I can hack it!
05-15-2002, 04:33 PM
1.03 is much better!
3-4 well placed hits and you're done with your foe.
05-15-2002, 05:08 PM
05-15-2002, 05:32 PM
Well if that's all...from about a 100 people who come visit here O.o
05-15-2002, 06:17 PM
Do you have any idea how much effort it takes to click here and there?!?!
The concept for most is mind boggling! You should be so lucky that you got a few hits! :D
remember 1 click takes 1 sec off your life!!!! :rolleyes:/:D
05-15-2002, 06:55 PM
LOL@both comments :D
05-15-2002, 07:26 PM
Bump again...cmon people...vote...I give you an ice cream if you vote
(*ice cream sold separatly)
05-15-2002, 07:41 PM
Try creating a new thread with that last post to point people over here.
05-15-2002, 07:50 PM
LoL yeah maybe I should :D
05-15-2002, 07:56 PM
I'm off now =SSC=Kal-El, i'd just like to say that i've had a great time counter-posting you throughout the afternoon, i'll be back friday, see ya.
05-15-2002, 08:38 PM
This game rocks. I have the benefit of not having played 1.2 so I cant compare.
I am 30 and have been playing games since pong and this is the best 1 on 1 combat game I have ever played, period. (Talking about duels of course.)
05-15-2002, 11:09 PM
Klart som fan att det är spelbart !!!
05-16-2002, 12:27 AM
your poll seems a bit biased. Just cause the game runs on your computer without crashing would make it "playable". Wouldn't it be a more accurate poll if it said something like "Do you enjoy the patched version" or "Are you satisfied with the playability of the game" or somthing like that. Just a suggestion :)
05-16-2002, 10:04 AM
Anyone in his bright mind will not see if the poll was about crashing...It's about the playing. Can you play it or not?...;)
05-16-2002, 11:40 AM
Whoa people voted...
05-16-2002, 12:27 PM
I really am gonna enjoy putting this thread into the "whiners=We want 1.02 back" threads ;)
05-16-2002, 01:50 PM
the patch is horrible. i cant believe you guys actually think it made the game better. i just dont understand
05-16-2002, 02:08 PM
has anybody worth their salt posted on this thread? hardley.
this game is playable for un-competitive people.
if you hated guns and liked dueling, and yet couldnt handle dealing with your opponents force powers, then you like this patch.
in a competitive atmosphere, the patch is un playable.
uber ninja lighites are the only thing to come out of this patch at tourney level play.
i mean, i swear, i could beat gunners consistantly with a saber, and i know many other saberists, who were worth their salt, that could do this as well.
the game needed tweaking for balance.
to polarize and alienate half the community was a mistake.
competitively playable, no
05-16-2002, 02:15 PM
i love how the 2 no options further dillute the vote.
though for whatever reason, a bunch of non-competitive newb sabers were the only posters on this thread anyway
05-16-2002, 02:33 PM
1.) If you want good competition, play a real sport.
2.) Being competitive doesn't make you cool.
3.) I don't remember you being voted to speak for the entire competitive community.
4.) I want my damn ice cream now.
05-16-2002, 02:50 PM
1 i have a bad knee. that eliminates that
2 no, it gives me more knowledge and authority than pick-up-&-play noob saberists
3 the "competitive community" are all voicing the same complaints.
05-16-2002, 05:34 PM
I just asked if it's playable or not...if you can play it and win some, be happy or play it, lose, and not be happy...
05-16-2002, 05:38 PM
So it's 55-18 at this time.....
05-16-2002, 06:17 PM
Well I hope than you all voted then...
05-17-2002, 10:05 AM
BUMP! (last day, I promise ;))
05-17-2002, 10:31 AM
Well, I guess it's playable...
Not for saberists tho... (I'm not talking about DFA spammers, they should die)
Duels are now really long and not due to player skill, due to the fact medium, which was MY main stance, now does 30 damage when it actually hits.
All this, while the backslashes do over 100 damage @%@#%^#%^
Yes, I agree (after seeing the movies again lately) that blocking is fine. BUT, the damage should be much higher. In the movies they hardly hit eachother, just blocked, but when one actually hit the other, he'd usually win. And when the attack those without sabers, they'd die in a single quick slash.
Blocking should be a bit different. When someone actually blocks (by himself), the enemy should be a bit thrown off... also, when someone tries to block a good combo (different directions/ non-obvious moves), he should be thrown off (the blocker), since he couldn't block such a combo...
05-17-2002, 11:01 AM
Well that might be suggestions for the 1.04 patch...But I mean sabre combat is playable for me, since I can do whatever my oponent can do (or in some cases better ;)).
05-17-2002, 12:03 PM
I love the new version
'nuff said ;)
05-17-2002, 12:13 PM
60-19...pretty one sided...
However what I'm most surprised with is that more people want to stab me with a knife, than just not play the game O.o
05-17-2002, 12:40 PM
What I loved about this game before 1.03 was that it required finesse, strategy, and skill.
I personally don't consider it playable now.
Before 1.02 I won around 90% of the duels I played. I'm a very competitive player, and it really gave me a thrill to have to think about what the other player might do. I never used DFA, but I loved it when people tried it on me, I would jump over it and smack them in the head with a yellow swing.
After 1.03 I've dueled 30 matches and lost 4. But it gives me no pleasure, there is no finesse, no strategy. I put it on blue, string a few well placed blows together and thats that. It seems to be more of a twitch based game now.
Whereas before I would be hunched over watching the screen, focusing intensely on my enemies every footstep pre 1.03, now I just lean back and let my quake instincts guide my saber into my opponent repeatedly, and raise a surprised eyebrow when I actually get killed. Its just boring.
As for the force powers, I used to like playing with both the light and dark side, it really added an interesting twist to the game. I never understood what people meant by "drain whore." You have force powers, use them for Christ's sake, don't stand there like a nubi and get slaughtered then complain about it. Now force powers are a simple two step logical process. Light side use absorb against darkies, protect against lighties. Dark side just use saber when absorb is on, drain when you see protect. Or just put on absorb and force pull/push whenever someone tries to swing at you. Sigh.
Whoever posted this said something about saber hits being more likely to hit, well apparently they never tested it when there was the slightest lag (I'm talking ~100 ping.) There are way more senseless misses now than there were before.
I miss the old days when JK ii was more than just another twitch game. I've had my fill of those, and at least in those other twitch games it doesn't take FOREVER to kill your opponents. I was in a free for all match for 20 minutes yesterday and there were only 6 kills.
I guess this patch is good for those nubis out there who like to hold the attack button down, press random directions, and think "oooh, perty animations ta huh," becuase it gives them more time to admire the graphics before I kill them. But as for me I'm sick of seeing games cater to the minorities who whine the loudest.
Thats my two cents anyway. And my vote was that this patch should be stabbed repeatedly with a dull knife.
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