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DeFrio
05-18-2002, 11:11 PM
I'm thinking palaptine will hit him with the lightning real bad. Any thoughts?

Chaotic~Angel
05-19-2002, 01:18 AM
I'm guessing Obi-Wan, why? Dunno just guessing. Maybe he gets run over by a car one day lol

enDless_Deliriu
05-19-2002, 03:26 AM
I'm pretty sure that Kenobi kicks him into a volcano or something, and the only way he survives the ordeal is to turn fully to the darkside and use his anger to keep the force flowing through him and alive.

WookieJedi86
05-19-2002, 04:14 AM
Anakin is going trying to do something bad, like kill the jedi and Obi-Wan fights him in a room like the one in Empire Strikes back. Theyre fighting and Anakin falls into a molten pit. He survives and has to wear the suit because his lungs are burned and he cant breathe properly. =)

Jah Warrior
05-19-2002, 12:51 PM
Yup obi and anakin have a rumble and he falls into a volcano is what i read somewhere. Let's see if it was true.

inSpiRe-
05-19-2002, 12:59 PM
yeah he falls into lava

CupO'Coffee
05-19-2002, 06:55 PM
from what i've heard (almost nothing already mentioned) anakin challenges ob-wan to a duel and they fight. obi kicks anakin into a volcano/lave pit (whatever) and he dies. then, sidious comes by and resurrects anakin and makes him his apprentice, since anakin is overwhelmed by the anger and joins the dark side.
of course, because anakins body is destroyed, he has to wear a suit that keeps him alive

striderx2048
05-19-2002, 07:14 PM
that all specalation, we dont know, that was all written b4 the prequel were annouce. Anything is possible

PerfectSky
05-19-2002, 07:40 PM
I got a theory:

En episode 3, there will be this crazy sith lord called "Darth Pladyous" who is a half man half.. yeah pladypus. and this sith bites anakin into two "CHOMP!!" just like that... and Anakin with only his upper body left jumps up into the belly of Darth pladypus and destroys him with a "Force Destruction ball" BAM !!

and Paltpatine has to have a dark apprentice to he "fixes" anakin with the robot suit... :p

Na... seriously I ain´t got a clue.

Vagabond
05-19-2002, 08:21 PM
One of premiere climactic moments of Episode III will be the duel between Anakin and Obi-Wan. While the specifics are unknown, the result is that Obi-Wan triumphs over Anakin, imparting injuries so severe that Anakin requires his infamous body armor to stay alive.

The point of the duel is merely speculation. It could be that Anakin, out of his arrogance, challenges Obi-Wan to a duel, to prove his power. It could be that Obi-Wan, in his rage for Anakin's involvement in the Jedi Purge, attempts to destroy his former Padawan and end his reign of destruction. Or, their conflict may merely be one of the final chess moves, played by Darth Sidious from the shadows, in his quest for the crown - check and mate.

I look forward to seeing how the chapter of the fallen hero unfolds. And as we all know, in the end, Qui-Gonn will have been proven right - Anakin was the chosen one, who would destroy the Emperor, bring balance to the Force, and redeem his imortal soul.

Vestril
05-19-2002, 08:58 PM
We think, and hope it will be Obi Wan, as this would be the most dramatic choice, but it could really be anything, and for any reason. The movie seems like it will be hard to make to me, because it has some lose ends to tie up that will be hard to manage.

For example, unless the movie starts with Anakin fully in the dark side, Padme can't know she's pregnant as it starts, because he isn't supposed to know he has children--she can't know she's pregnant until he's really obviously in the Dark Side (so she runs from him). At the same time, the movie should explain how Leia and Luke wind up on Alderaan and Tatooine, presumably as it ends, so it has to span many months--an odd thing in an SW movie.

Also, does Anakin kill the Jedi, or does Darth Vader? This is another thing we can't be certain of. Presumably James Earl Jones is only in the movie for a short while, at the end, but perhaps its a very cinematic few minutes, where we see DV slaughtering Jedi to avenge his being horribly disfigured.

I guess we'll have to wait and see...it should be interesting. My bet is that Obi Wan hides Padme, and Anakin is enraged and attacks Obi, demanding the location of his wife.

Homosexual Ewok
05-19-2002, 09:00 PM
I spoiled the last 2 but I'm going to pretty much do my best to avoid any spoilers this next time. Granted, we all know the end result, but I still think there are going to be some "I am your father" type surprises in the next one. As for the lava thing, George has done several things in the recent movie that totally contradicts the original Return of the Jedi novel.

1-Owen was Obi-Wan's brother in the book.

2-When Anakin was dying he looks at Luke and whishes he would of met Luke's master Yoda.

I would not count on the lava thing, granted it would be cool though. The only thing certain is Anakin and Obi-Wan duke it out in one Hell of a fight. It is pretty much a given that these injuries will be the near fatal ones, if for no other reason than it would be a really great reason for Vader to have a mad-on for the Jedi and a desire to wipe them out.


GL said you would see "parts" of the Vader outfit in the next movie, as for the whole thing...?

Murdoch
05-20-2002, 05:52 PM
After what i've heard he falls into a 'molten pit'. Wether this is lava or just a tar pit i dunno. Apparently he started out with a breathing mask and some machinery on his back and front and then developed it to look more intimidating.

striderx2048
05-20-2002, 08:46 PM
if we find out that luke and leia are twins that blow the surpirse in rotj, if we find out that anakin is vader, then it blows im your father surprise, I mean vader would lose the mystery man that is part of his character

Bylak
05-20-2002, 08:55 PM
It's also possible that some ofthe wounds are due to Count Dooku . . . . remmebering there can only be two Sith, so Dooku and Anakin gotta duke it out in the end too . . .

I could see it as Obi - Wan just beating Anakin, and just leaving him for dead.

Man, episode III is going to be huge . . . not only the Jedi purge, but two huge saber balltes with Dooku and Anakin, and Obi and Anakin.

Lord_FinnSon
05-20-2002, 10:42 PM
For example, unless the movie starts with Anakin fully in the dark side, Padme can't know she's pregnant as it starts, because he isn't supposed to know he has children--she can't know she's pregnant until he's really obviously in the Dark Side (so she runs from him). At the same time, the movie should explain how Leia and Luke wind up on Alderaan and Tatooine, presumably as it ends, so it has to span many months--an odd thing in an SW movie.
Natalie Portman said in recent interview(must have been while they were in AOTC premiere) that she will be with a child. That reminded me of RotJ book where there's a little mention that Leia was older than Luke(I don't know how much that writer made up himself and what unused ideas were borrowed from Lucas), so perhaps this "child" is Leia.

Luke might born at the end of the movie and Obi-Wan then takes him to Owen and Beru. I even remember older rumour(possible scene Lucas shooted while doing AOTC, because he doesn't need to show Homestead more than briefly) where Obi-Wan walks through sandstorm while holding Luke and then enters Homestead(very biblical).
Also, does Anakin kill the Jedi, or does Darth Vader? This is another thing we can't be certain of. Presumably James Earl Jones is only in the movie for a short while, at the end, but perhaps its a very cinematic few minutes, where we see DV slaughtering Jedi to avenge his being horribly disfigured.
I don't think Vader could beat more than one Jedi in a duel, because original trilogy shows us that he lacks finesse in that armor which limits his movement too much and makes him slow. However, I bet he could grip the life out of single Jedi quite easily or kill several guys using the Force, but as a duelist he can't beat Jedi master like Mace Windu who is only second to Yoda.

Perhaps it would be more dramatic if Anakin kills many of those Jedi Council members, for example, in rage and is wounded deadly during the duel. Surviving Jedi think he's died, and later Vader enters the Jedi Temple or some hiding place where few remaining Council Members are and takes them out alone. Obi-Wan would be the last one he encounters, but of course survives from that duel; Yoda might have gone hiding to Dagobah much earlier.

BTW, they revealed in Celebration II that "pieces of Darth Vader's armor will be seen on several different characters. It will all come together to make the final Vader armor."

Vestril
05-20-2002, 10:56 PM
Natalie Portman said in recent interview(must have been while they were in AOTC premiere) that she will be with child. That reminded me of RotJ book where there's a little mention that Leia was older than Luke(I don't know how much that writer made up himself and what unused ideas were borrowed from Lucas), so perhaps this "child" is Leia.

Luke and Leia are twins... Darth Vader in RotJ: "Sooo, you have a twin sister..."

I don't think Vader could beat more than one Jedi in a duel, because original trilogy shows us that he lacks finesse in that armour which limits his movement too much and makes him slow. However, I bet he could grip the life out of single Jedi quite easily or kill that guy other way using the Force, but as a duelist he can't beat Jedi master like Mace Windu who is only second to Yoda.

Maybe, maybe not. Who really knows? Only Lucas can decide. You're probably right, but really, almost anything could happen at this stage.

Aoshi
05-20-2002, 11:26 PM
a good speculation on epIII is at www.the-sfa.org it pretty much covers everything about epIII and is prolly what will happen (it is very logical). just go to the public message board and it is there

Vestril
05-20-2002, 11:38 PM
I read it, but I disagree, mainly because trained army regulars would be no match for a dicsiplined, hardend army of clones, trained from birth and bred of the finest stock. More than that, they are genetically enhanced to be docile and to take orders. This situation makes sense if you build on the premise that the clones attack for an organized reason...but I find that unlikely.

At the same time, it does present some interesting points, such as how Palpatine keeps the Galaxy in a state of war up until ANH (he doesn't dissolve the senate until then). I'm not sure, I'll get back to you after some deliberation :)

striderx2048
05-21-2002, 02:51 AM
Originally posted by Vestril
I read it, but I disagree, mainly because trained army regulars would be no match for a dicsiplined, hardend army of clones, trained from birth and bred of the finest stock. More than that, they are genetically enhanced to be docile and to take orders. This situation makes sense if you build on the premise that the clones attack for an organized reason...but I find that unlikely.

At the same time, it does present some interesting points, such as how Palpatine keeps the Galaxy in a state of war up until ANH (he doesn't dissolve the senate until then). I'm not sure, I'll get back to you after some deliberation :)

WE need is army to protect the republic from future threats

Vestril
05-21-2002, 03:11 AM
Originally posted by striderx2048


WE need is army to protect the republic from future threats

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're saying :(

BCanr2d2
05-21-2002, 08:04 AM
Originally posted by Vestril
I read it, but I disagree, mainly because trained army regulars would be no match for a dicsiplined, hardend army of clones, trained from birth and bred of the finest stock. More than that, they are genetically enhanced to be docile and to take orders. This situation makes sense if you build on the premise that the clones attack for an organized reason...but I find that unlikely.

At the same time, it does present some interesting points, such as how Palpatine keeps the Galaxy in a state of war up until ANH (he doesn't dissolve the senate until then). I'm not sure, I'll get back to you after some deliberation :)

As for the Clone Troopers, if this Clone War lasts for any length of time, and the battles are heavy, then there will be a reduction in the amount available to fight - remember takes half the current life time to produce them, assuming they would be around 20-25 years old, then 10-12 years to make them.
Also I see clones just as humanoid droids, still devoid of independent thought. If you read some small amount of EU books on SW, you will see that one thing the Empire does is become arrogant and ignore what the soldiers or lowly ranked officers have to say about the problems with things.
The weaknesses of the AT-AT's on Hoth is explained by one of the soldiers who visited Tatooine and the Mos Eisley Cantina...

Vestril
05-21-2002, 08:20 AM
Originally posted by BCanr2d2


As for the Clone Troopers, if this Clone War lasts for any length of time, and the battles are heavy, then there will be a reduction in the amount available to fight - remember takes half the current life time to produce them, assuming they would be around 20-25 years old, then 10-12 years to make them.
Also I see clones just as humanoid droids, still devoid of independent thought. If you read some small amount of EU books on SW, you will see that one thing the Empire does is become arrogant and ignore what the soldiers or lowly ranked officers have to say about the problems with things.
The weaknesses of the AT-AT's on Hoth is explained by one of the soldiers who visited Tatooine and the Mos Eisley Cantina...

I'm sorry, but I don't see the point of your post...we all know how long it takes Clones to be produced, but as we see on Kamino, there are Clones at various stages of development, various batches you might say.

Do you think Jango Fett is incapable of independant thought? I suspect his natural imporvisation techniques would come through in the clones and make them far more valuable than droids. With the docile temperment the genetic manipulation gives them, it seems to me that the clones would be as controllable as droids.

What is the purpose of your opinting out that the Empire ignores the opinions of its lower ranked officers. Anyone who is in the military can correct me, if I'm wrong here, but how often does a general give a damn what a private has to say about something?

I don't mean to be rude...I just missed what you were trying to point out :)

inSpiRe-
05-21-2002, 02:16 PM
ok guys this is my theory. In episode III the senate is destryed, breaking the republic into 2 groups. the Empire and the Rebellion. The clones are taken by the empire, and turned into stormtroopers. ne1 agree with me?

striderx2048
05-21-2002, 02:27 PM
There was still a Senate all the way up to the beginning of ANH

Vestril
05-21-2002, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by inSpiRe-
ok guys this is my theory. In episode III the senate is destryed, breaking the republic into 2 groups. the Empire and the Rebellion. The clones are taken by the empire, and turned into stormtroopers. ne1 agree with me?

Why would they need to break up into Empire and Rebellion? There is already a rebellion going on, called the Seperatist movement...

Trahern Valley
05-22-2002, 04:57 AM
I have nothing to contribute to the actual topic whatsoever.

I shall simply mention it's a terrible travesty that there are kids out there who haven't watched the original trilogy before going to see the new one. Once, in JO MP, a player asked me if Darth Vader was the one in the black mask...

*Cries*

Bowen
05-22-2002, 05:02 AM
I think Obi-wan will....isn't he and Anakin that get in a major battle and Anakin falls into some sort of lava or something on that order?

Prowl lightstar
05-22-2002, 09:00 AM
I think Obi wan is going to go into hiding in Ep 3. He says to luke in ANH
"Obi Wan Kenobi....i haven't gone by that name since, oh, before you were born."

This means he has do adopt the name Ben Kenobi before luke is born.

BCanr2d2
05-22-2002, 10:47 AM
Vestril:

Numbers, as quoted in the movie - 200,000 ready now, with 1,000,000 on the way for the numbers of clones remaining. They have got 200,000 ready in 10 years, so when do you think that they will have the other million ready?

We aren't talking about Jango Fett here, we are talking about clones - they will only learn, or have the knowledge that is given to them during training in their accelerated aging. They don't have any of the memories, or knowledge that Jango has, improvisation is a skill learnt through experience - it isn't something that you can "teach" a clone.
Remember that Boba Fett is also a clone, but has none of the accelerated ageing, nor is he fed with the limited information, he is living a real life. He isn't modified either, so this is why he is alot more like his father, he learns whilst his father goes out and kills.
A clone is basically nurtured to be a soldier, learns nothing else, so has limited knowledge behind what to do in certain situations, so lateral thinking isn't a strongpoint. They may have the basic PHYSICAL capabilities of Jango Fett, their knowledge and thinking is limited to what they are taught to believe.

That is barely anywhere near enough to last over 2-3 years of battle, even if they are all available in those next 2-3 years. I don't see that 1.2 million Clone Troopers will last long into the war, considering there is a lead time to get them ready. Use any figures from the two world wars, and extrapolate them into what we would experience in Star Wars, and it's a drop in the ocean.

My point about the lack of foresight in the Empire, is one of their short comings, the same as the Sith who lead them. The arrogance about the supremacy in their equipment leads them to ignore the weaknesses that are built into them. The droids were vulnerable due to the need for a central control ship, the Clone Troopers lacking in independant thought, Storm Troopers weak minded soldiers, see a pattern evolving here? There is always some major weakness that the Empire always miss, or ignore....

editormg
05-22-2002, 02:50 PM
Episode III

Final Duel

Will be Anakin & Dooku vs Obi-Wan & Yoda with Darth Sidious Watching

Dooku is killed by Yoda. Anakin is seriously sliced by Ben.

Keep in mind they have to kill off Mace Windu(a key character) somehow so prehaps he learns of anakin turning to the darkside and tries to stop him earlier in the story, but is killed.
This would leave room for Padme to go into hiding.

But also you have to wrestle with yoda and ben going into hiding too.
This means we at least have to see some of Vaders "hunt down and destroy the Jedi"

The republic doesnt truely fall until ANH
"The emperor has dissolved the council permantly." - Tarkin

ITs Kinda funny if u think about it.
At the end of Episode II the jedi are actually fighting for the empire. BC they are unaware of palpatines plot.

BTW Artoo will have one last panel to reveal in the last movie probably.

_Lata

Dough with Fish
05-22-2002, 03:12 PM
Hmm, well, these are all good ideas and shuchwhat, I have the answer... The costume people put him in that suit! Yes, the costume people, do you all actually expect him to get into all that crap on his own?? Or maybe the makeup people, that is a close second...

Booyah, the ultimate answer! Seriously though, why bust our brains over this, why not let it come as a surpirse. Hell, I'd bet there is an EU book that tells how Anakin becomes good old Darthy, maybe not the exact details, but probably gives the reader a good idea as to what happened.

Vestril
05-22-2002, 03:52 PM
We aren't talking about Jango Fett here, we are talking about clones - they will only learn, or have the knowledge that is given to them during training in their accelerated aging. They don't have any of the memories, or knowledge that Jango has, improvisation is a skill learnt through experience - it isn't something that you can "teach" a clone.


No...improvisation is a skill inborn to someone. Some people are only capable of dealing with laid out plans, they have to follow it to the letter or the get extremely confused and underperform. Other people are capable of dealing with new variables as they arise, and planning accordingly.

Numbers, as quoted in the movie - 200,000 ready now, with 1,000,000 on the way for the numbers of clones remaining. They have got 200,000 ready in 10 years, so when do you think that they will have the other million ready?

They come in batches. If they come in batches of 200,000, the other million will be fully into play in 5 years. Yes, it took 10 years to get the initial batch, but the others were being started at the same time. It only takes 10 years to grow a clone to maturity, and we see them in various stages of learning, this implies that they could have another 200,000 after the next year. This doesn't mean they were grown in a year, it just means that they were started a year later than the initial batch. Do you see how this works?

A clone is basically nurtured to be a soldier, learns nothing else, so has limited knowledge behind what to do in certain situations, so lateral thinking isn't a strongpoint. They may have the basic PHYSICAL capabilities of Jango Fett, their knowledge and thinking is limited to what they are taught to believe.

Obviously they are limited to what they were taught to believe. Some are taught to be troopers, who just aim and shoot, others are taught to lead the troopers. Others are taught to lead the leaders. Depending on their training and growth patterns, they work at all stages. Jango was the ultimate soldiers, and now the Republic has thousands of him fighting for them. They are neither physically nor mentally identical to him, but they still have the building blocks that made him great, and they have the training to exploit those building blocks.

My point about the lack of foresight in the Empire, is one of their short comings, the same as the Sith who lead them. The arrogance about the supremacy in their equipment leads them to ignore the weaknesses that are built into them. The droids were vulnerable due to the need for a central control ship, the Clone Troopers lacking in independant thought, Storm Troopers weak minded soldiers, see a pattern evolving here? There is always some major weakness that the Empire always miss, or ignore....

Lack of foresight? The Sith? The same Sith who planned out the collapse of the Republic? No...not quite. You don't want single minded, independant troopers. Then they would run everywhere and do wahtever they wanted--this is bad. The Emperor and Empire's mistake was in not taking the Rebellion seriously, they thought it was a joke--that they were invincible, and no one is invincible. I mean, only the most arrogant of fools would send people wearing glaring white armor into a jungle battle. This has nothing to do with the quality of their troops.

Vagabond
05-22-2002, 05:26 PM
First, a quick correction - improvisation can be learned. I've taken several improvisation classes during my theatrical training, where one is taught to think outside the box - to look at a thing or situation not for its obvious conclusion, but for something completely different. It's all about going back to that place you visited when playing with your imagination as a child. Kids can make a chair into a fort, a castle, a spaceship, or a monster, while adults will see it merely as a chair. It's all about seeing the possibilities, where other blind themselves to it as a result of their social upbringing - their repressive, conformist socialization. It's all a state of mind, not necessarily entirely genetic.

Now then, to the topic of when Obi-Wan goes into hiding. I speculate that he will uncover the plot at some point before the end of Episode III. At that time he will realize that the Jedi Order is being manipulated by the Sith, and renounces his affiliation and name of Obi-Wan, and going by Ben Kenobi instead. Similarly, Yoda may renounce his participation in the Jedi Council at this time as well. Then, as a rogue Jedi, Ben confronts Anakin/Vader, and leaves him for dead. Shortly after, Yoda, who knows of both Luke and Leia, send Kenobi on a final mission - to deliver young Luke to Tatooine and watch over him. Meanwhile, Yoda secretly sends Leia off to Alderaan, now having planted two seeds for the possible future overthrow of the Empire.

That's my guess.

Vestril
05-22-2002, 05:49 PM
First, a quick correction - improvisation can be learned. I've taken several improvisation classes during my theatrical training, where one is taught to think outside the box - to look at a thing or situation not for its obvious conclusion, but for something completely different. It's all about going back to that place you visited when playing with your imagination as a child. Kids can make a chair into a fort, a castle, as spaceship, or a monster, while adults will see it merely as a chair. It's all about seeing the possibilities, where other blind themselves to it as a result of their social upbringing - their repressive, conformist socialization. It's all a state of mind, not necessarily entirely genetic.

I agree with the concept that it can be taught, but I don't agree with the concept that being taught is the only way that it can happen--I think that some people are genetically predisposed towards improvisation. It wasn't my intention to reduce the argument to an 'only this' debate, though I did play into that :)

I think state of mind is very much a genetic issue, upbrining and training can only do so much. Example--if I was born without legs, I won't be an NBA star. This is extreme, but I think it helps to illustrate my point a little.

Interesting EpIII concept, I think it's one of the more original and intelligent ones I've seen...it could be close to the mark, IMO

DarkLegion
05-23-2002, 11:18 AM
it should be vadar him-self
Anakin is old enough to wear his own clothes
cheer out, guys, just a joke

Divine Spirit
05-23-2002, 01:05 PM
id like to see a different version of the vader suit....one that gives him more freedom to move and thus makes him a better fighter. the only problem would be explaining why he went from a good suit to a bad one.....perhaps over the years his condition is deteriorating and in the end his later suit is needed because it has more healing properties and also, he doesnt need to fight as much in the last few years of his life compared to what he might be doing in Ep3!


Divine Spirit

patd316
05-23-2002, 07:25 PM
devine what must b u said u and i have a very similer thinking pattern i again agree with what devine has stated

DarkSaber-<ZeN>
05-23-2002, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by CupO'Coffee
from what i've heard (almost nothing already mentioned) anakin challenges ob-wan to a duel and they fight. obi kicks anakin into a volcano/lave pit (whatever) and he dies. then, sidious comes by and resurrects anakin and makes him his apprentice, since anakin is overwhelmed by the anger and joins the dark side.
of course, because anakins body is destroyed, he has to wear a suit that keeps him alive

Reviving in StarWars? This isnt some religious crap. I believe Darth Vadar get messed up by Sidious, and then which forces him to become Vadar, and brainwashes him. I believe he did same with Maul..but, someway other. Like, How i have theory on Maul's Anakin's Father, but Sidious, somehow, got rid of his life, and Shmi won't admit it. Or, doesnt know at all.

Vestril
05-23-2002, 11:08 PM
Originally posted by DarkSaber-&lt;ZeN&gt;


Reviving in StarWars? This isnt some religious crap. I believe Darth Vadar get messed up by Sidious, and then which forces him to become Vadar, and brainwashes him. I believe he did same with Maul..but, someway other. Like, How i have theory on Maul's Anakin's Father, but Sidious, somehow, got rid of his life, and Shmi won't admit it. Or, doesnt know at all.

Isn't religious?.... Have you even seen Star Wars?

If Maul was Vaders pop, why doesn't Anakin have horns?...

Also, what do you mean by the part:
but Sidious, somehow, got rid of his life...
Who's life? Maul's? Maul's life ended when Obi Wan killed him...

BCanr2d2
05-24-2002, 06:36 AM
Star Wars is full of religious overtones, and has been admitted so in interviews by GL. It just borrows from a lot of different religions, captures the common themes, and places them in a setting removed from our own to get it across.

As for Vader, and his injuries, it is meant to be in the ROTJ novel that Anakin/Vader fell into a lava pit fighting Obi-Wan, so hopefully GL doesn't contravene this "fact" when Episode 3 comes around.

Divine Spirit
05-24-2002, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by patd316
devine what must b u said u and i have a very similer thinking pattern i again agree with what devine has stated

erm....whatever you just said, i totally agree

and by the way, its divine and no i dont think we have similar thinking patterns....sorry


Divine Spirit

striderx2048
05-24-2002, 09:18 PM
falling into lava has to be a stupid storyline
only the movies are canon
not EU or novels of the movies

JNO_Blues
05-24-2002, 10:11 PM
Dooku will kill Padme and Obi Wan will keep Anakin from doing something or going somewhere and that will have and Anakin will go on a Rage like he did when his mother died. Palpatine will reveal himself to Anakin and tell him they can kill Dooku eventually Anakin will with powers of the dark side (Palpatine will use a situation like in ROTJ where he wants the more powerful one and will sacrafice his current apprentice for this. Anakin won't have any feelings because of Padme's death and will become an agent of evil and help extince the jedi and then Obi Wan and Anakin will fight and something near fatal will happen to anakin. I'm sorry but him getting reborn or whatever just seems too cheap the lava pit might happen, but everyone has been talking about that so lucas may do something else.

bigDAN456
05-24-2002, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by DarkSaber-&lt;ZeN&gt;


Reviving in StarWars? This isnt some religious crap. I believe Darth Vadar get messed up by Sidious, and then which forces him to become Vadar, and brainwashes him. I believe he did same with Maul..but, someway other. Like, How i have theory on Maul's Anakin's Father, but Sidious, somehow, got rid of his life, and Shmi won't admit it. Or, doesnt know at all.

I didn't think Darth Maul was human!?

DarkLegion
05-25-2002, 07:58 AM
the actor is human .....at least;)

L337 j3/>I
05-25-2002, 10:51 PM
:mob:

If it is any help, it says in the SW RPG Core book that the way Annie gets the suit is that he gets knocked into a lava pit by Obi-Wan.

After this, I would surmise that we realize that Amidala is pregnant. As Anakin has gone fully to the dark side to survive his wounds, Obi-Wan goes into hiding. Then the children are born and seperated, thus allowing Obi to say that he stopped using the name Obi before Luke was born, and allowing Annie to not know about the twin thing.

Anyway, EP 2 kicked ass.

DarkLegion
05-26-2002, 03:57 AM
perhaps the Emperror ambush Anakin and make him believe that it was the Jedi council in order to keep him away from Padme, so Anakin was fullfilled with anger and fully turned into the Darkside,
with the suit of course.just perhaps

Chaotic~Angel
05-26-2002, 04:09 AM
Maybe they all get wasted and start playing 'spin the lightsaber', explains the injuries....yodas insaneness and padme being pregnant ;)

myxylplyx
05-26-2002, 05:12 AM
Vader is mostly machine not because of one particular battle, but many various ones. He loses different body parts over a long period of time and has them replaced by cybernetic devices.

Vestril
05-26-2002, 06:26 AM
Originally posted by myxylplyx
Vader is mostly machine not because of one particular battle, but many various ones. He loses different body parts over a long period of time and has them replaced by cybernetic devices.

No...actually he's mostly machine because one particular battle horribly crippled him, leaving him on life support. Granted a few other battles may have left him with some extra machine parts, the bulk of it is due to one particular battle.

mima kake
05-27-2002, 07:33 PM
georgio armani