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3-Lions
05-19-2002, 12:08 PM
hi all

just a thought i had!

if any1 could clear up WHY the jedi have a clear/blue/green/red/purple lightsaber i'd be most grateful :p

im a little bit puzzled WHY obi-wan (in ep4) has a blue saber, shouldnt his be green to indicate a fully trained light master?

as luke seems to move from clear to blue then to green in ep3-4-5


my understanding >>

padawans =clear
light = blue/green (thou need confirmation on its meaning)
and dark = red

i saw on JAY LENOS show, samuel claims he has a purple saber
'to stand out from the crowd'

but he also looked like he knew more then he was giving away!!!!

maybe purple = clouded jedi???

any links to a saber colour guide would be most welcomed :p

DarthNoodles
05-19-2002, 12:56 PM
Uh...I think you're talking out your arse.

The color of the lightsaber for Jedi doesn't mean anything. the prgression from one color to the other for Luke from ESB to ROTJ would be because he lost his at teh end of ESB so he made a new one.

Anakin uses a blue light saber for most of AOTC.

Yes, red means Sith but that's all the meaning that exists in the colors.

BTW, I don't remember ever seeing a CLEAR Lightsaber.

Tank_Comie4545
05-19-2002, 07:33 PM
yeah what the hell are you talking about a clear lightsayber????
and i dont think that having diffrent color lightsaybors mean nothinhg remember at the end of episode 2 all the jedi's they had blue and green and they were all jedi

dorain8
05-19-2002, 08:02 PM
THE ONLY reason mace windu's lightsaber is purple
is bacause samuel l jackson asked lucas if his character could have a purple lightsaber

Lucas said sure

saber colors are decided i think by the crystal used
(not 100% sure but i think i read that somewhere)

the only restriction is the sith have red sabers

pbdrummer
05-20-2002, 06:12 PM
Dorain, you are 100% correct about everything. :D

Bylak
05-20-2002, 09:18 PM
I don't think it's a restriction to Sith to have red lightsabers, I think it's just a preference.

Ewok Hunter
05-20-2002, 09:27 PM
I read in one of the ep. 2 guide books somthing about a certain kind of crystal used by the sith to make the saber slightly more powerful, this crystal makes the saber red colored.

coupes.
05-20-2002, 11:43 PM
Here's what i think's gonna happen with mace windu in ep3 :

he's gonna get his ass kicked, either by bobba fett (windu killed his father remenber -- sweet revenge) or by vador who'll start to wipe the jedi from the galaxy.

and the deal about the purple saber is only, like it's been said a couple of time already, because samuel l. jackson wanted to stand out.

Ferox
05-20-2002, 11:52 PM
oh yeah im glad i saw a purple saber in the movie, i love purple sabers. and sam jackson is a cool jedi :P.

te necabo
05-20-2002, 11:55 PM
1. Samuel Jackson likes the color purple
2. He asked Lucas for purple to "stand out"
3. Lightsaber colors are defined by the type of crystal in them. blue or green.
4. In the Mace Windu commercial on the official sight it says he has something like ... an electricsomething lightsaber and not a crystal lightsaber ( making it purple not green,blue, or red)
Luke's saber is blue because that's the saber that anakin left for him (most likely his next saber)
After he loses that saber he builds a new one which is green. There's a theory that Obi Wan kept Qui-Gon's lightsaber and Luke went back to Ben's hut on Tatooine to see if he could lightsaber parts and used the crystals and some parts from Qui-Gon's saber... thus making it green.

OldSkoolJedi
05-21-2002, 04:00 AM
Actually I Know What Lions Is Talking About, The "Clear" Lightsaber is actually "White" . Let me explain, In ANH when Luke first gets his lightsaber, look closly at the colour and the lightsaber appears to be white. I'm not sure why but go have a look and u'll see what he means. I Think The Probably just didn't know howto make it coloured back then, i assume this because the lightsaber looks "flat" when they swing it.

Later

Topdan
05-21-2002, 04:36 AM
Mace Windu doesn't have a crystal lightsaber. He has an electrum lightsaber. You can hear that the nois made by windu's saber is very different than the crystal sabers.

As for why he has that... well i dont know.

BlackDove
05-21-2002, 04:42 AM
Yoda.....interests me.....

OldSkoolJedi
05-21-2002, 04:44 AM
Lol, He Interests You ?....

hes mmmmmmyyyyyyyyy Heeeeeeeeeeeeeerrooooo

Cuz... Wait For it !

YODAS A BADASS KUNG FOO GANGSTA ! (by now this should be clearly cemented in every1's head)

BlackDove
05-21-2002, 04:46 AM
His lightsabre actually.....

vizor
08-03-2002, 06:55 AM
im readed in a starwars comic that:

blue - Jedi
Green - Family
red - Sith
purple - confilct
orange - war
yellow - married

but i dont think that its true because as an jedi you cant get a family or get married.

Sith Inquisitor
08-03-2002, 08:02 AM
Originally posted by .:CoupeS:.
Here's what i think's gonna happen with mace windu in ep3 :

he's gonna get his ass kicked, either by bobba fett (windu killed his father remenber -- sweet revenge) or by vador who'll start to wipe the jedi from the galaxy.



It is highly unlikely that a teenage Boba Fett is going to kill Mace Windu. The kid still probably has nightmares about his father being decapitated. I think Mace will fall in a face off with Sidious, once he realizes that Sidious is the Dark Lord of The Sith.

MotionMan
08-03-2002, 10:53 AM
How old is this thread?:confused:

Legacy_Of_Sith
08-03-2002, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by Sith Inquisitor



I think Mace will fall in a face off with Sidious, once he realizes that Sidious is the Dark Lord of The Sith.

And Sidious defeats Mace after a hard fought battle.

MotionMan
08-03-2002, 02:10 PM
Any Mace or Sidious action in ep.3 will be received with open arms by me:)

ET Warrior
08-03-2002, 02:17 PM
any action involving mace, sideous, yoda, and plo koon is alright by me ;)

Dark Rival
08-11-2002, 05:11 AM
Everyone says it's because of the crystal but if you read at starwars.com then you will find out that the crystal lightsaber is EU. I like the idea of the crystal but it migt not be true, I think that anything EU shouldn't really be listened to cause GL doesn't make it up. I for love to read EU but GL has the final word and you never know, we might find out that sabers don't use crystals, just like we found out that padawans are trained at the jedi temple and not in a ship. I just wanted to say that and I am sure someone will say I'm wrong but I just wanted to add what I think.

MotionMan
08-11-2002, 03:07 PM
Dark Rival your right it is EU. We pointed it out in an earlier thread.

Master Bodle
08-13-2002, 11:14 AM
I reckon Mace will be killed by Dooku. Dooku seems to be very strong maybe not as strong as Yoda but strong, i don't reckon Windu is anywhere near to being as strong as Yoda so i reckon Dooku will kick his ass.
Then Dooku will be killed by Yoda.

MotionMan
08-13-2002, 12:15 PM
I dont think Yoda will just kill for the hell of it. The only reason he faught Dooku was becasue Dooku would have killed Obi-Wan and Anakin if Yoda didnt interfere.
Plus Yoda most likely has some emotional connection with Dooku since he was his old master. Yoda was porobably going easy on Dooku durring the fight.

Taos
08-13-2002, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by MotionMan

Plus Yoda most likely has some emotional connection with Dooku since he was his old master. Yoda was porobably going easy on Dooku durring the fight.

HHHmmmmmmm.......going easy on Dooku, that's something I've never thought of before. I think you might be right MotionMan, I think Yoda was only fighting him to save Obi-Wan and Anakin. It is not in a jedi's nature to want to kill a former apprentice (especially master Yoda's).


:syoda:

Master Bodle
08-13-2002, 01:53 PM
Im not sure if Dooku kills Windu, we may see Yoda do some uncharacteristic things. Come on Yoda and Windu are good friends. The death of Windu may send Yoda over the edge although i doubt it. If Yodo don't kill him it will be Anakin!!

Ratmjedi
08-15-2002, 07:10 PM
Was Dooku ever on the Council? Mace is stronger than Dooku. I read in some other thread that Dooku's saber style is one that is made for fencing or to fight with another person with a lightsaber. I read another thread that said Mace's saberstyle was very aggresive and was the hardest because It wasn't Dark but it came close to it. So not many people used so it was like Dooku's which was rare. Mace is what? The second most powerfull Jedi on the Council after Yoda. He can't be killed by Boba cause GL said he won't be old enough and Sam said he wanted to go out with a bang, not get killed by some pimple faced kid. The when you guys are talking about lightsabers you say that there can only be blue and green. Why is that? Like how did Mace have a purple one? I bet that there are diffrent colored crystal's but that blue and green are the most abundunt. There are other color's but they are rare. How do you make a electric saber? That has been used a lot but where did it come from? How is a Jedi suppose to have a Electric saber when they have to use the crystal to make it in their training. It is a key part of their training to use the Force to calibrate the crystal so that it doesen't blow up since you have to have the Force to make it cause it would be impossible to calibrate it without the individuals Force sensitivity. And the Sith lightsaber's crystals are made sintheticaly. When they are made they use the Force and their hatred for the Jedi is used to make it stronger or something like that. And somebody said that Yoda was going easy on Dooku! That's obsered but Jedi are not allowed to show emotion. Yoda is the highest Jedi so he can't have emotion when fighting somebody. Read the Jedi code. Anakin broke it and that was what lead him to the Darkside because he wasen't very disciplined. Yoda has a been a master for 800 years so he has achived that discipline more than anybody else.

:duel: :lsduel:

Mandalorian54
08-16-2002, 01:24 AM
Red light sabers are not only for sith!
If youve ever played jedi power battles for ps1 you will notice that a jedi has a red light saber. She, is one of the playable characters.


As for episode III im realy hoping to see boba fett do something.
as for mace wandu someone said boba would be to young or somthing, well in fact hell be no younger than luke who took on Vader who was older!

:fett:

Darth Damage
08-16-2002, 02:05 AM
dont be stupid mace wont go to the dark side

MotionMan
08-16-2002, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by Ratmjedi

And somebody said that Yoda was going easy on Dooku! That's obsered but Jedi are not allowed to show emotion. Yoda is the highest Jedi so he can't have emotion when fighting somebody. Read the Jedi code. Anakin broke it and that was what lead him to the Darkside because he wasen't very disciplined. Yoda has a been a master for 800 years so he has achived that discipline more than anybody else.

Jedis can show emotion. Jedi's cannot let emotions control them, or get in the way of their duties.
Did Obi-Wan show emotion when Qui-Gon died?
Did Mace show emotion after he cut Jangos head off?
Did Yoda show emotion when he saw padame alive after the assasination attack?
Yoda shows emotion on various ocasions. He is sad when he sees luke not be able to beleive in the force. He is sad after the genosis battle , when he corrects Obi wan about winning the battle.
ECT ECT.
Just cause a Jedi cant show his emotions doesnt mean they dont feel them. Why do you think Vader saved Luke?
It is impossible for a Jedi not to feel and sometimes show emotion. They take in Padawans and train them since they are young. They take sort of a father figure role to each of the padawans they train. You can even hear Anakin saying that Obi-Wan is the closest person to a father he has.
I definatly think Yodas emotions kept him from killing Dooku early in the fight. Yoda was surprised to see Dooku use sith lighning. Thats how he found out Dooku was now a sith. He was most likely hurt in some way cause of this.
I do think he was not fighting Dooku full on 100% to try to kill him right away. Why do you think he said "much to learn you still have, my young aprentice"? Like he was testing him even then. Then when Yoda says "faught well you have" Dooku knew that Yoda wasnt messing around anymore. Thats why he droped the piller at Yoda and got the hell out of there with the death star plans.

AgentSmith
08-16-2002, 02:39 PM
I think the statement that Mace Windu has an electrum lightsaber refers to the finishing on it, to indicate his status on the Jedi Council and his dealings with the Senate/Republic as Jedi Council member.

ET Warrior
08-16-2002, 04:23 PM
I agree with those who said that Yoda was going easy on Dooku, because it would be hard for a master as old and wise as Yoda to try and kill and old padawan of his. Especially one who ended up being as powerful as Dooku, because Yoda must have been proud of him before he left the Jedi order.......

RatmJedi.........try separating ideas with paragraphs, because what you're writing now is VERY confusing......:confused:

Ratmjedi
08-16-2002, 05:36 PM
I'll try to do that but it's just that it is a bad habit that I have that hasn't really changed but I will try my best to correct this. I can tell I confuse you guys alot.:( I will try to not let that happen as much cause I just get caried away I don't look at what I type and how it sounds.
:duel: :lsduel:

Taos
08-16-2002, 11:05 PM
Not a problem Ratmjedi.....the biggest thing for me is that it makes it hard to read, but no big deal:)

Also, does anybody know if Dooku was ever on the council like ratmjedi asked? I'm interested to find out...