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ValorXII
05-24-2002, 08:55 AM
I have read in a interview with Sam L about episode II and III. He says "Darth Vader may have the skills to kill me, but I intend to go out in a blaze!".

The newspaper is the Courier Mail.

I would assume this is right. I'd say that its about a %90 chance that its correct.

Darklighter
05-24-2002, 09:06 AM
May be, but Samuel L Jackson is just being arrogant. He feels he's too good to be killed by someone like Boba Fett (who he should be killed by), and that Anakin is the only one powerful enough to destroy him.

Well, I guess we''l see who's good enough in Ep III.

ValorXII
05-24-2002, 09:09 AM
Perhaps his acting abilities have made him....well, arrogant.

Kyle d'Tana
05-24-2002, 09:38 AM
Well, the official story is, that anakin (vader ) and the emperor killed all the jedis!(without yoda and ben, and of course luke, which is not a jedi then...

ValorXII
05-24-2002, 09:45 AM
Well Obi (Ben) did say that Vader only helped kill the Jedi. So the issue still needs some clarification. Mace said there are also a few thousand Jedi's, so I would assume that the Clone Troopers would hunt down a decent amount of them.

Cracken
05-24-2002, 02:17 PM
You want a cool death? Boba Fett killing Mace with his own lightsaber.

Keiran Halcyon
05-24-2002, 03:26 PM
Boba Fett, unless he has grownth improvement (that as seen in EpII, does not have) would be 13-14 years old. He cannot dare Kill the swordmaster of the jedi.

Vestril
05-24-2002, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by Keiran_Halcyon
Boba Fett, unless he has grownth improvement (that as seen in EpII, does not have) would be 13-14 years old. He cannot dare Kill the swordmaster of the jedi.

Maybe (and this is just off the top of my head random speculation) we'll see why Fett and Anakin have such a good relationship by ESB, maybe at some point durning the movie Anakin meets up with Fett and feels pity for his plight, later beats the crap out of Mace, and leaves him for Boba...

Do I believe this? Not really, but it's an interesting idea...

Keiran Halcyon
05-24-2002, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by Vestril


Maybe (and this is just off the top of my head random speculation) we'll see why Fett and Anakin have such a good relationship by ESB, maybe at some point durning the movie Anakin meets up with Fett and feels pity for his plight, later beats the crap out of Mace, and leaves him for Boba...

Do I believe this? Not really, but it's an interesting idea...

Anakin loves padme.... :D

Ferox
05-24-2002, 03:57 PM
i agree with jackson, he is the man and he uses my purple saber hehehe. i want him to go down in a blaze like any good jedi would. no bounty hunter is gonna kill him.

CupO'Coffee
05-24-2002, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by Vestril


Maybe (and this is just off the top of my head random speculation) we'll see why Fett and Anakin have such a good relationship by ESB, maybe at some point durning the movie Anakin meets up with Fett and feels pity for his plight, later beats the crap out of Mace, and leaves him for Boba...

Do I believe this? Not really, but it's an interesting idea...
hey, that's not so bad an idea... this way the anakin-killed-all-jedi idea would be maintained as well as a fitting end for mace. this way, boba also would get the vengeance he surely wants all the time and the audience is satisfied
the idea may be unlikely, but i still like it

doctornick
05-24-2002, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by Keiran_Halcyon
Boba Fett, unless he has grownth improvement (that as seen in EpII, does not have) would be 13-14 years old. He cannot dare Kill the swordmaster of the jedi.


He is a clone of Jango, and it was said that clones have an accelerated growth rate, therefore he would probably be an adult in EpIII

DarthNoodles
05-24-2002, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by doctornick


He is a clone of Jango, and it was said that clones have an accelerated growth rate, therefore he would probably be an adult in EpIII

Boba was an unaltered clone...NO GROWTH ACCELERATION!!!

RF_Gandalf
05-24-2002, 05:02 PM
I am pretty sure they said that Boba was not an adulterated clone, no growth enhancement, or DNA changes to make them more docile etc.

He wil lnot kill Mace in Ep 3. That will have to be either Sidious or Dooku or possibly Anakin.

CupO'Coffee
05-24-2002, 05:17 PM
probably, but since star wars is to a huge part about personal matters and stuggles, it would be logical that boba wastes mace.
this might sound unlikely since boba will be around 13 or 14 years in ep3, but maybe anakin or dooku injures mace pretty bad and let's boba finish him off (see above the post from vestril, the lucasforum super spammer ;))

doctornick
05-24-2002, 05:30 PM
Granted Boba is an unaltered clone, but isnt it possible that this refers to having a collected mine, it is not specific, and so could be either way.


Still, it is probably unlikely that Boba could waste the alleged best swordsman in the galaxy.

Vestril
05-24-2002, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by CupO'Coffee
probably, but since star wars is to a huge part about personal matters and stuggles, it would be logical that boba wastes mace.
this might sound unlikely since boba will be around 13 or 14 years in ep3, but maybe anakin or dooku injures mace pretty bad and let's boba finish him off (see above the post from vestril, the lucasforum super spammer ;))

Hey, a very small percentage of my posts are pointless spam!! Granted that percentage just went up...:rolleyes:

Jedi_Monk
05-24-2002, 06:42 PM
What does Jackson know? Lucas just started writing the script a week ago :p

Ferox
05-24-2002, 08:16 PM
i say go sammy j ... mace is really the only jedi ill root for besides yoda in the films.. in every other movie i root for the sith and the bad guys. i always played the empire in every star wars game, use to love killing xwings in xwing vs tie fighter hehe.

delta_7890
05-24-2002, 08:35 PM
Bah. I root for the Fetts, and only the Fetts. :D

ValorXII
05-25-2002, 10:39 AM
"What does Jackson know? Lucas just started writing the script a week ago"

Yeah, but he would have most of the storyline in his head though.

eastcoast2895
05-25-2002, 03:51 PM
the way i heard it in one of samuel l. jackson that he doesn't want to go out like a punk and be shot by a droid, but since mace windu is the SECOND strongest jedi in the universe it has to be done by someone strong, like anakin. also does anyone know boba fett's age in epII?

Keiran Halcyon
05-25-2002, 05:59 PM
Boba Fett in EpIi is around 10 years old.

Anyways, If Mace Could Kill Jango, Why couldn't he do it again with Boba? :D

Vestril
05-25-2002, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by Keiran_Halcyon
Boba Fett in EpIi is around 10 years old.

Anyways, If Mace Could Kill Jango, Why couldn't he do it again with Boba? :D

No kidding, if a fully healthy Mace fights any sort of Boba Fett and loses...something will be rotten in the state of Star Wars

Keiran Halcyon
05-25-2002, 06:38 PM
Yeah.




(either the Republic, or Chancellor Palpatine, and even Anakin :D)

matt--
05-25-2002, 10:30 PM
I'm thinking that maybe Dooku kills Mace.

But than who kills Dooku?
Maybe Yoda does, Obi...but I've got my money on Anikan finishing off the count.

Maybe Anikan knocks away Dooku's saber and has him cornered...then just as Kenobi comes in, Anikan kills him.

Anikan snaps and attacks Obi-Wan.

That's a lot of sabering. :) :saberb: :saberr: :saberg:

Cow_JK:O
05-25-2002, 10:56 PM
Well, according the the way the Sith works, Anakin must kill Dooku and take his place under Palpatine.

NemoX
05-26-2002, 12:31 AM
Boba will likely be too young to kill Mace so what if he gets help from Anakin/Vader. Anakin could fight Mace and as he is about to finish him he stops and turns it over to Boba...who promptly blasts him to Jedi Heaven.

OldSkoolJedi
05-26-2002, 03:49 AM
Ok, There Can Only Ever Be 2 Sith Right ?

Anakin Supposivly "sees" the power of the dark side when either,

A) Dooku Kills A Powerful Jedi, OR

B) Sidious Kills Mace

I Think It'll Be B That Way Anakins All Like "Hey A Sith Killed The 2nd Most Powerful Jedi" And Then He Wants To Be A Sith, So Sidious Is All Like "Hey, You Gotta Kill Dooku To Join Me etc. etc."

Anakin Kills Dooku, Joins The Sith, Obi-Wan Is All Like "hey, Anakins A Sith Now, I Gotta Kill Him"

POSSIBLE SPOILER
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Obi And Anakin Fight, Anakin Falls Into Pit And Is Saved By Sidious YadaYadaYada.

OldSkoolJedi
05-26-2002, 03:52 AM
Course, This Is All Merely Speculatiom,

Part From The Spoiler Bit, That Was oN Star Wars Site A Coupla Years ago

(Lucas Will Probably Change It)

ValorXII
05-26-2002, 08:58 AM
"A) Dooku Kills A Powerful Jedi, OR

B) Sidious Kills Mace"

Couldn't it be that Dooku kills Mace though?

I think Yoda will kill Dooku personally.

doc_holiday106
05-26-2002, 12:29 PM
being the only black dude in star wars....he wants to go out with a bang apparently.

Vestril
05-26-2002, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by doc_holiday106
being the only black dude in star wars....he wants to go out with a bang apparently.

Hey...that's right, he is the one major black character. I'm suprised he made it this far without betraying Han...

Jarrodo Malachi
05-26-2002, 05:24 PM
You all think Boba gets to mace in ep III.

i think that will never happen in this movie. i don't even need to get into the details because all the good points have been covered aready.

so i leave you all with a different idea....a question that crossed my mind while yoda was battling Dooku.

If lucas let go of yodas battle leash why can't we see Sideous/Palatine kick some jedi tail.

Right now he looks like a punk to me. manipulating puppets from behind his high horse position. in ep 6 after Luke totally disses him and leaves him high and dry do you see him take some sort of action. and even then luke couldn't defend himself because he threw away his saber.

What i want to see is Sideous reveal himself to the counsel at his moment of victory. and him flatten mace and the others like sissys.

or

1. yoda vs Sideous
2. Mace vs Dooku
3. Obi-wan vs Anakin

ValorXII
05-27-2002, 12:55 AM
Well if you believe Sam J. then Anakin kills Windu.

Exar Kun II
05-28-2002, 06:47 AM
i think Mace will kill Dooku because they have a history as friends and George likes friends kiling friends in SW. The betrayal theme is the center priece of his stories. After Dooku is defeated, Anakin fights Windu, just as anakin slays Windu, Obi Wan runs in screams NOOOOOOO! and attacks Anakin and the duel is on!


i can't see Sidious picking up a lightsaber to battle Windu. He's a behind the scenes manipulator, not a warrior.

Vestril
05-28-2002, 07:10 AM
Originally posted by Exar Kun II
i can't see Sidious picking up a lightsaber to battle Windu. He's a behind the scenes manipulator, not a warrior.

I suspect we'll see Sidious in action in the next one...mainly because Lucas likes to parallel the movies, and in the End of 6 the Emperor does his thing after having been a shadowy figure before that.

Maybe not, but it does seem likely that he will play a more front scene role.

Redwing
05-28-2002, 08:53 AM
Originally posted by Vestril


Hey...that's right, he is the one major black character. I'm suprised he made it this far without betraying Han...

Wow, he had to be the second most powerful Jedi ever to be able to get between protecting Queen Amidala and chattering with Yoda so quickly!

Exar Kun II
05-28-2002, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by doc_holiday106
being the only black dude in star wars....he wants to go out with a bang apparently.


Kind of ironic. there were no black characters in Episode IV. However you have black characters in Episode 1 and 2.

Duncan Barr
05-28-2002, 10:14 PM
Darth Vader was black......................

Jaster21801
05-28-2002, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by Vestril


I suspect we'll see Sidious in action in the next one...mainly because Lucas likes to parallel the movies, and in the End of 6 the Emperor does his thing after having been a shadowy figure before that.

Maybe not, but it does seem likely that he will play a more front scene role.

This seems like a very good point....
This is what I've come up with so far for parallels:

Ep II and Ep V = Love interest
Ep I and Ep IV = ending scenes similar
Ep II and Ep V = ending scenes similar
All episodes = someone gets severed... I - Maul (cut in half), II - Anakin (arm), III - Anakin (other body parts), IV - Ponda Baba/Walrusman (arm), V - Luke (hand), VI - Vader (hand)


Grrr... I had a whole big list of em... But now I can't remember so many... Oh yeah, and perhaps jabba'll be in III... he's in I, IV SE, and VI after all...

ivaj
05-28-2002, 11:28 PM
well lucas follows a strict sequence for his movies.

Exar Kun II
05-28-2002, 11:31 PM
Originally posted by Duncan Barr
Darth Vader was black......................



Actually the man inside the suit was not black, he was an English bodyduilder named David Doyle, or something. James Earl Jones, who is black, was the voice.;)

ivaj
05-28-2002, 11:48 PM
James Earl Jones has the coolest voice ever!!

Jedi_Monk
05-29-2002, 01:50 AM
There's something a russian writer said about foreshadowing: "If you show a gun in the beginning of your story, it had better have gone off by the end." I'm paraphrasing, of course. Anyway, Mace killing Jango is the smoking gun. Boba witnessed the death of his father, whom he obviously idolized. Then he goes out after the battle and takes his pop's armor. That is going to pay off by the end of Episode III--Star Wars isn't about realism so much as drama and lessons, and Boba killing Mace--even if Anakin helps--is the most dramatic outcome.

Raynaga
05-29-2002, 03:55 AM
Originally posted by Jedi_Monk
There's something a russian writer said about foreshadowing: "If you show a gun in the beginning of your story, it had better have gone off by the end." I'm paraphrasing, of course. Anyway, Mace killing Jango is the smoking gun. Boba witnessed the death of his father, whom he obviously idolized. Then he goes out after the battle and takes his pop's armor. That is going to pay off by the end of Episode III--Star Wars isn't about realism so much as drama and lessons, and Boba killing Mace--even if Anakin helps--is the most dramatic outcome.

If by dramatic you mean cliched, predictable, and lets not forget moronic, then you are right on the money.

--R--

Keiran Halcyon
05-29-2002, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by Jaster21801


This seems like a very good point....
This is what I've come up with so far for parallels:

Ep II and Ep V = Love interest
Ep I and Ep IV = ending scenes similar
Ep II and Ep V = ending scenes similar
All episodes = someone gets severed... I - Maul (cut in half), II - Anakin (arm), III - Anakin (other body parts), IV - Ponda Baba/Walrusman (arm), V - Luke (hand), VI - Vader (hand)


Grrr... I had a whole big list of em... But now I can't remember so many... Oh yeah, and perhaps jabba'll be in III... he's in I, IV SE, and VI after all...

I think that EpI and EpVI are more similar in the ending, and gungans-ewoks.
I think that EpIII will have a similar ending to EpIV, with a military celebration or something.

MotionMan
05-29-2002, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by Keiran_Halcyon


I think that EpIII will have a similar ending to EpIV, with a military celebration or something.

I dont think with the fall of the republic and the rise of the empire that we will see a happy ending with a celebration. Well maybe for the empire.

Oh throw in there the slaughter of almost all the jedi and it seems remote that it will have a happy ending.:(

Jaster21801
05-29-2002, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by Keiran_Halcyon


I think that EpI and EpVI are more similar in the ending, and gungans-ewoks.
I think that EpIII will have a similar ending to EpIV, with a military celebration or something.

What I was really referring to here was the ceremony where Padme is wearing white and Leia's wearing white and there are steps and at least one object of ceremonial interest (ball and medals)... But I dunno... just my opinion

Mandalorian iTi
06-01-2002, 03:06 AM
Originally posted by CupO'Coffee
probably, but since star wars is to a huge part about personal matters and stuggles, it would be logical that boba wastes mace.
this might sound unlikely since boba will be around 13 or 14 years in ep3, but maybe anakin or dooku injures mace pretty bad and let's boba finish him off (see above the post from vestril, the lucasforum super spammer ;))

How do you know how many years EPIII will take place after AOTC?HUH? maybe it takes place when Boba is an adoult, say 10-15 years. I mean look at the years between EPI and EPII. Anikin was like 10 also in EPI and in EPII he was around 18 right? So there Boba could be an adult in EPIII, or at least a young adult.

Archmv04
06-01-2002, 03:24 AM
I've read in 4 difrent places that it will take place 2 years after AOTC. Personaly I dont belive a adult Boba Fett could even touch Mace. Here is what I belive well happen. Anakin for the last 2 years would be training with the saber as much as possible. In E3 he is gona fight Obi wan and not win but befor that fight he is going to fight some 1 big and powerfull such as Dooku, Mace and kill one personaly I think it's gona be Dooku because Mace is only 2nd to Yoda with a saber. Plust Anakin is probalby pissed off about loosing his right arm. After he does this hes goan snap at Obi wan for reasons I have not yet tried to guess. During there fight he is gona fall in a pit of acid lava any thing that will pretty much almost kill him Sideus will find him give him his black armor and prostetics and he will join Sideus at his side as the Dark Lord of the Sith.

p.s. Darth Vader was the blackest brother in the Galaxy.:vadar:

Vestril
06-01-2002, 03:28 AM
Actually the man inside the suit was not black, he was an English bodyduilder named David Doyle, or something. James Earl Jones, who is black, was the voice.

David Prowse, and he said that he wants to do it again, if Darth Vader is in costume in the next one, his quote is:
"I would love to reprise the Darth Vader role, if I am 100 percent physically able, and they offer the part to someone else, I would be very disappointed."

and

"If Christopher Lee can handle a lightsaber at the age of 80, then so can I."

I hope he comes back, it would be cool...he recently had hip surgery but seemed optimistic about his chances of being in shape quickly...

Jaster21801
06-01-2002, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by Archmv04
p.s. Darth Vader was the blackest brother in the Galaxy.:vadar:

Hooper: Check this s***. You got cracker farm boy Luke Skywalker, Nazi poster boy, blond hair, blue eyes. And then you got Darth Vader, the blackest brother in the galaxy, Nubian god!
Banky Edwards: What's a Nubian?
Hooper: Shut the f*** up!
Banky Edwards: What about Lando Calrissian, he was black?
Hooper: BLACK RAGE!!!!!!!!! *fires shots at Banky Edwards*

LOL!!!!! Kevin Smith is great

Keiran Halcyon
06-01-2002, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by MotionMan


I dont think with the fall of the republic and the rise of the empire that we will see a happy ending with a celebration. Well maybe for the empire.

Oh throw in there the slaughter of almost all the jedi and it seems remote that it will have a happy ending.:(

Maybe well see Palpy giving a medal to anakin... :D

Clone142
06-01-2002, 12:32 PM
Well in keeping with Star Wars "Oops" tradition (think Ani destroying the Trade Federation control ship in Episode 1), we could have Mace Windu gaining the upper hand after a long fight against Vader and just as he's on the verge of delivering the killing blow, he could be disintegrated by a young and opportunistic Boba Fett.

That would leave Mace Windu's image as a premium lightsaber fighter intact (was beating Vader, just got killed 'cause he was distracted) as well as explain the "no disintegrations" remark from Vader to Boba Fett in The Empire Strikes Back.

just an idea. Guess we'll have to wait to find out.:)

BlackDove
06-01-2002, 01:11 PM
Btw, everyone knows that J.E. Jones has been confirmed to take part in Ep3? I think I saw it on theforce.net. That'll be fun.

Oh yeah. About Vader killing Mace. "No disintegrations" (or however you spell that :p) in ESB says it all.

Amorpheus
06-01-2002, 03:30 PM
My guess is that Sidious will show what he can do. I doubt the lightning bit in Episode 6 was all he's got... heck, he doesn't even use a saber. :D

Vestril
06-01-2002, 07:21 PM
Hooper: Check this s***. You got cracker farm boy Luke Skywalker, Nazi poster boy, blond hair, blue eyes. And then you got Darth Vader, the blackest brother in the galaxy, Nubian god!
Banky Edwards: What's a Nubian?
Hooper: Shut the f*** up!
Banky Edwards: What about Lando Calrissian, he was black?
Hooper: BLACK RAGE!!!!!!!!! *fires shots at Banky Edwards*


Close...but you left out what has to be the funniest part.

Hooper:Then in Jedi they take off his mask, and show a weak old white man. He's saying that deep down we all want's to be WHITE!!!!!

Banky: Don't you?

Thennnnn Hooper shoots him...:p

Archmv04
06-02-2002, 10:28 AM
What does he meaan Noobin god that he was from Naboo sorry if i sound stupid.

Leagle
06-02-2002, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by Duncan Barr
Darth Vader was black......................


No, I think he was from Liverpool.

I hate the way people forget about Lando in these conversations -he is cool, not Mace.

BlackDove
06-02-2002, 07:58 PM
Lando=cool?????? ROTFLMAO!!! ;)

Sinister_Evil
06-02-2002, 10:04 PM
well this is what i know (SPOILLER)...anakin kills dooku and then obi cuts ani up really bad (mean REALLY bad) this is were ani gets the vader armor/life supporting suit.
as for the emperor he is supposed to be really powerfull so he might not need a saber...he may just block attacks with the force
as for sith there r only 2 masters if u check out the databank on www.starwars.com u will see that in the sith wars there were sith ARMIES...that would be cool!

Jaster21801
06-03-2002, 02:12 AM
Originally posted by Vestril


Close...but you left out what has to be the funniest part.

Hooper:Then in Jedi they take off his mask, and show a weak old white man. He's saying that deep down we all want's to be WHITE!!!!!

Banky: Don't you?

Thennnnn Hooper shoots him...:p

sorry... haven't seen the flick in a long time and all that was posted on Amazon.com was the "Check this" part... I was tryin the "BLACK RAGE" part from memory.. damn... itz been like 2 or 3 years since I saw that...

Vestril
06-03-2002, 02:14 AM
Hee hee--it's all good, it's just that the funniest part is when Banky's all 'don't you?' lol, suuuuch a funny scene.

saltank
06-05-2002, 12:57 AM
Theres always only two sith, one master and one apprentice, never two masters.
I don't think Anakin has the guts to kill Mace Windu.. I fail to see how not everyone realizes that he is an arrogant n00b in ep 2. He has no patience and the only thing he was good for was to kill those geonisians :)
I think mace will be killed by darth sidious, or a bunch of other dark jedi who are 'supposed' to be in ep 3..
I remember reading the script a while ago.. and it said that mace windu took on like 10 dark jedi including sidious, and his new apprentice, and some other dark jedi. he got killed by the sith if i remember correctly.

ET Warrior
06-07-2002, 03:09 PM
I'm quite impressed that you managed to read the script......since Lucas only started writing it a week after AotC was released........