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deadpool99
05-24-2002, 10:13 AM
Jedi's are based off ninja and samuri. Samuri being the light side of the force. Ninja being the dark side.

The Force is stolen from "Chi" the form of energy ninjas and other martial artist have in legend.

The jedi robes are stolen from monks(even the bad ones).
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?g=events/wl/052202thaimonk&a=&tmpl=sl&ns=&l=1&e=1&a=0

Darth Vaders costume is stolen from Samuri armor.
http://www.yojimbo.com/samurai/warriors.htm
http://www.yojimbo.com/samurai/momoyama.htm

So enjoy your little fantasy world boys and girls, but daddy is a thief for idea's.

Darklighter
05-24-2002, 10:21 AM
You know what you're absolutely right. Now that we know minor elements of the films are taken from ancient culture well known to vryone, I guess we all hate Star Wars now. Everything has an influence on everything else, nothing is just made up from scratch. 'All art comes from other art' is a famous quote. I suppose the galaxy in which the films are set is a little bit like our own galaxy, therefore Star Wars is a rip-off in that respect.

Did you enjoy the films? How many times have you seen the originals, and not just to nickpick, but for the pure fun of it? Does it really matter that these aspects have influenced the films? We love it because it's Star Wars.

deadpool99
05-24-2002, 10:24 AM
I love all the movies except Episode 1. And it really is JarJar's fault!

drevilhsx
05-24-2002, 10:29 AM
Lucas has publicly stated that he borrowed the plot for Star Wars from Japanese director Kurosawa's film 'The Hidden Fortress'.

It even has 2 bumbling peasants, one tall one short, that add comic relief. Any guesses who that duo could be?

Anyways... who cares? They're very different movies in whole and we should be glad we had lucas to inspire us the way Kurosawa inspired him.

Darklighter
05-24-2002, 10:32 AM
Your right, Jar Jar did screw up the whole thing.

Justin !! New news on upcoming Star Wars film:

Episode III - The Death of Jar Jar Binks

Brief synopsis: Jar Jar being tortured in a thousand different ways by Anakin Skywalker, and then killed (screaming will be digitally remastered in Dolby Digital 7.1).

deadpool99
05-24-2002, 10:34 AM
Thats awsome that Lucas admitted that, I have more respect for him now.

BUT HE WILL LOSE THAT RESPECT SHALL HE FAIL TO MAKE A MOVIE ABOUT THE LIFE OF YOUNG YODA!

OldSkoolJedi
05-24-2002, 10:41 AM
Yeah !!!!!!! CUZ.....

YODA'S A BADASS KUNG FOO GANGSTA !

Peace.

Lol

Jahs
05-24-2002, 09:22 PM
"King Arthur of Camelot" Tis about a young Prince, who with the help of a sorcerer/Merlin, a Sword and 'the Force' saves a Queen and defeats the Black Knight with the help of his Roundtable aides.

Some of the X-wing battles were taken from ww2 Dogfight movies.

So what? I love Star Wars anyway...


Ooops I think we just hit a wookie!

deadpool99
05-25-2002, 06:09 AM
GEORGE LUCAS YOU MAKE ME SICK!

MotionMan
05-25-2002, 06:20 AM
Why watch the movies then? Or why post here?
The fact is everything is a rip off of everything. If we sit down and try to nit pick everything then we would find out nothing is really original.
All I care about is that the man has made these movies that millions of people enjoy. He isnt trying to win any oscars. All he wants to do is tell a story. A story that has been in his head for decades.

Good job George. Keep up the good work:thumbsup:

Vestril
05-25-2002, 08:02 AM
Could somebody do me a favor and name a recent plot that isn't based off of a previous story? Good authors get ideas from a variety of sources and combine them. There are no really original ideas any more, they all tie into older ideas, this is the way of the world.

Ferox
05-25-2002, 03:20 PM
hehe i took a english lit course last semister in college called " search for the holy grail".

not it wasnt a movie about monty python although the professor ruled and we watched it in class haha. it was about what is called the "hero myth"... this type of story is thousands of years old and you still see it today.



arthurian legend one of the hero myths.. as is star wars, we read books that you would think " wtf does this have to do with arthur" but when you really analized it you thought .. .damn i can see all the common elements.


well anyways THANK you so much for enlightening me.. wow i didnt notice that the force is basically taken from budhist religion duh hehe you are just so wise and all knowing.


you cant move stuff around with chi.. its just your inner force its similiar but theres other elements added into it. the sides of the force " ying yang" plus a little magic.

dorain8
05-27-2002, 03:31 AM
SINCE THE
MOVIE
"A GIFT TO THE JEDI FORM THE EMPIRE"
CAME OUT
(ITS THE 1ST SW DOCUMENTARY SHOWS HOW IT WAS MADE)
GEORGE HAS ADMITTED TO DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THE MOVIE WAS DERRIVED FROM

HE DIDNT NECESSARILY STEAL IT

WE DONT SAY SHAKESPEAR STOLE THE IDEA FOR MACBETH FROM
OTHER PLAYS THAT INVOLVED CORRUPTION AND WITCHES AND HELL DO WE?

OR HELL WE DONT SAY LORD OF THE RINGS WAS STOLEN FORM THAT DAMN MOVIE WILLOW

RAMBO AND COMMANDO?

JESUS LAY OFF THE GUY
HE NOT ONLY USED THE HELMET TO GET THE LOK BUT HE DID IT TO TRY AND ADD HISTORY TO IT

dorain8
05-27-2002, 03:34 AM
hehe i took a english lit course last semister in college called " search for the holy grail".

THE HEROMYTH

THATS A DIVISION OF A GENRE OF STORY

YOU CANNOT COPY A GENRE
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

JESUS I WRITE A BOOK ABOUT A GOOD GUY THAT HAS A FLAW AND DIES FROM IT

THEN SO DO A 100000 OTHER PEOPLE

THEY DIDNT STAIL MY IDEA THEY JUST USED THE SAME GENRE

THAT ONE WOULD BE OF COURSE ?????? ANYONE GUESS?????

Bluezman
05-27-2002, 05:24 PM
OMFG, you really need to get a clue.

It is not that StarWars borrowed ideas from other sagas or ancient myths.
IT IS THE WHOLE FU<>ING POINT ABOUT STARWARS!!!

George Lucas did not admit that he took ideas from somewhere else.
AGAIN, IT WAS HIS WHOLE FU<>ING POINT ABOUT THE WHOLE THING!!!

(Jeez)
He said, the idea about StarWars was to take great elements like Good vs. Evil, a tragical hero, Showdown scenes like in Westerns, Cult elements, religious elements etc. and bring this close to the kids because they don't know this anymore.

And besides:
The movies are not good or entertaining although the stuff is borrowed from somewhere else.

They are good and entertaining BECAUSE stuff was taken from somewhere else
IT IS THE WHOLE FU<>INK POINT ABOUT STARWARS!!!

Everyone in the audience who knows a thing about literature sees these parallels and smiles at them because they are so neatly woven into a new story. Sure, you can enjoy the movies by just watching them but the real kick you get once you know where it all comes from.

Lucas does that with everything. The whole architecture in the movies is based on actual architecture that does exist (like Mos Eisley/Tattoine = traditional architecture in Tunisia (that's Africa by the way, not Mexico :rolleyes: ...) mixed with Science Fiction elements. Taking known elements and combine them with new ones to create something completely new.
And again:
THAT IS THE WHOLE FU<>ING POINT ABOUT ARCHITECTURE IN STARWARS!!!

Does anyone NOT get the picture by now?
(Jeez...)

dorain8
05-27-2002, 10:40 PM
The movies are not good or entertaining although the stuff is borrowed from somewhere else.


did you ever watch the starwars movies

... not entertaining
...not good

millions of people think otherwise numbnuts!!!!!!!!!

you are just angry cuz you are getting proven wrong on numerous occasions!!!!!!!!

hmm lets see, go watch all the documentaries on starwars you will undeerstand that lucas explains the origins of vader's mask for example
.... YOU FLAMING IDIOT
1ST GET A LIFE
THEN KILL YOURSELF
:ewok:

ivaj
05-27-2002, 10:49 PM
actually star wars is based on the great story of good vs. evil, as all stories are. :)

Broode
05-27-2002, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by dorain8

.... YOU FLAMING IDIOT
1ST GET A LIFE
THEN KILL YOURSELF
:ewok:

Feeling hypocritical today?

He said that the movies arn't "good although they steal some things", he said they are "good BECAUSE they steal those things".


Learn to read, then post your stupid, baseless flames.

squid808
05-28-2002, 12:28 AM
just the same, if you analize all the song lyrics in the world, there are bound to be a few similarities. OMG harry pothead must either be merlin's illegitamit (now i KNOW i spelled that wrong...) child, or the whole series is a rip off. or what about sherlock holmes and dick tracy? imagine that... =} it happens

Redwing
05-28-2002, 12:55 AM
Originally posted by deadpool99
Jedi's are based off ninja and samuri. Samuri being the light side of the force. Ninja being the dark side.

The Force is stolen from "Chi" the form of energy ninjas and other martial artist have in legend.

The jedi robes are stolen from monks(even the bad ones).
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?g=events/wl/052202thaimonk&a=&tmpl=sl&ns=&l=1&e=1&a=0

Darth Vaders costume is stolen from Samuri armor.
http://www.yojimbo.com/samurai/warriors.htm
http://www.yojimbo.com/samurai/momoyama.htm

So enjoy your little fantasy world boys and girls, but daddy is a thief for idea's.

*GASP*

*faints*

:rolleyes:

Bluezman
05-28-2002, 06:05 AM
...*struggle*...MUST.....RESIST......TEMPTATION... .....MUST NOT.....ANSWER..........TO THIS.......CRAP......AAAARGHHH!!!!
Sorry, can't do it.

So, dorain8 (8... is that your age?)

did you ever watch the starwars movies Oh yes, son, I sure did...

... not entertainingI didn't say that. Please read my post again
...not goodI didn't say that. Please read my post again

millions of people think otherwise numbnuts!!!!!!!!! Ah, he seems to be getting the point...

you are just angry cuz you are getting proven wrong on numerous occasions!!!!!!!!Oh, so what occasions might that be?

hmm lets see, go watch all the documentaries on starwars you will undeerstand that lucas explains the origins of vader's mask for example YADA YADA YADA.
.... YOU FLAMING IDIOT
1ST GET A LIFE
THEN KILL YOURSELF Oooo, look who's talking...

Redwing
05-28-2002, 08:51 AM
Let the hate flow through you, boy!

;)

ET Warrior
06-17-2002, 01:31 PM
wow, i was reading through old threads because i haven't been on these boards that long......and this is one of the funniest ones i've read so far......:rofl: man, you guys are silly, i mean seriously of course star wars isnt' COMPLETELY original, nothign is, get over it and go watch episode 2 again. because it makes me happy

DarthVenom
06-17-2002, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by dorain8

hmm lets see, go watch all the documentaries on starwars you will undeerstand that lucas explains the origins of vader's mask

The idea of Darth Vaders Mask actually came about when the concept artist for EPIV drew a picture of Darth Vader boarding Princess Leia's ship from the vacum of space, and he obviously had to have some breathing equipment/helmet to do this... Lucas liked the look and decided to keep it... He was originally just going to be mutilated.

Swifty
06-17-2002, 08:55 PM
Not to mention that "Darth Vader" is dutch (if memory serves) for "Dark Father"...

kwakkie
06-18-2002, 12:57 AM
Hehe, In from The Netherlands and yes, Vader means Father, but... Darth doesnt mean anything in dutch...

Kryllith
06-18-2002, 01:06 AM
Originally posted by dorain8
HELL WE DONT SAY LORD OF THE RINGS WAS STOLEN FORM THAT DAMN MOVIE WILLOW
Well seeing as Lord of the Rings was written... what... 30 years before Willow, I'd imagine we'd have a very hard time saying Tolkein stole the idea.

Kryllith

ET Warrior
06-18-2002, 01:14 AM
:rofl: This thread still makes me laugh, everyone got all mad over stupid reasons, oh man, so pointless.......:D:D:D:D

I dont think adding responses is useful though, i think all the angry people left th eforums because they are mad ;)

Lionen
06-18-2002, 01:40 AM
Tolkien DID steal from Willow. He used his timemachine that John Lennon had built for him.
And stop this silly conversation, because we already know the answer....

Kryllith
06-18-2002, 01:52 AM
Originally posted by Lionen
Tolkien DID steal from Willow. He used his timemachine that John Lennon had built for him.
And stop this silly conversation, because we already know the answer....
Actually, more than likely, he got one of those malicious Time Bandits to get the script for Willow for him. :) What's the question?

Kryllith

AgentSmith
06-18-2002, 02:23 AM
I like Star Wars, matter of fact I love it. :)

So what if it' snot original, like anything these days is. :p

Hey! Hold on a second. Assuming you're a person with a regular formed strand of DNA, 50% from your father, 50% from your mother; (And with what you've been bitching about I doubt it actually) that means that you yourself are at the core a total ripoff of your parents, and they of their parents and so on and on.

Oh yeah you could say the combination is unique but in your case I think it's all just a bad mix. :lol: :p

So if you don't like it, fine I can live with that man. Just don't come and harass people that do like it because you need to boast and feel superior to other by needlessly insulting them seeing you feel so inferior and are so close minded.

JoelStoklosa
06-18-2002, 03:50 AM
Have you ever seen a samurai shoot lightning from his fingertips?The only thing borrewed from the samurai is the back of vaders helmet.Samurai are not the only thing the Jedi are based on,they are also based on medieval knights! IF YOU DONT LIKE THE MOVIES THEN DONT WATCH THEM!

Kryllith
06-18-2002, 04:55 AM
I wonder what the average midichlorian count is for a samurai/ninja...

Kryllith

Lime-Light
06-18-2002, 06:17 AM
Originally posted by dorain8

OR HELL WE DONT SAY LORD OF THE RINGS WAS STOLEN FORM THAT DAMN MOVIE WILLOW



You. F*cking. Idiot.

ET Warrior
06-18-2002, 08:15 AM
Originally posted by Kryllith
I wonder what the average midichlorian count is for a samurai/ninja...

Kryllith

It's about 40 thousand...

40 thousand? Not even Anakin has a midichlorian count that high

Nobody has

What does it mean?

It means that Samurais/ninjas are retarded

How do you draw that conclusion?

I dont know, i couldn't think of anything else to say

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh...................