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moooa
05-25-2002, 02:39 PM
I've finished my dengar model
He will be upload in file section of jediknightii.net in few hours

Now I began to work on a Mon Calamari model
Tell what u think

http://www.geocities.com/mooooa2002/ackbar.jpg

Vesentac
05-25-2002, 02:40 PM
Dengar model already? Where's the screenshots?

Also 404 on the MC model.

Lucko Mabri
05-25-2002, 02:43 PM
WOW! Amazing! 1 word of advice. eyes need stick out more :D

Lucko Mabri
05-25-2002, 02:45 PM
btw here are ltos fo ref pics http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=admiral+ackbar&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&hl=en (why doesnt anyone use google image search for ref pics? ITS AMAZING!)

Cmdr. Antilles
05-25-2002, 05:02 PM
I use google for reference on my maps...

BradFu
05-25-2002, 05:46 PM
WHOO HOO!

Mon Calamari are one of my favorite species.

I can't wait till you're done with this so I can skin myself up a custom Mon Cal Jedi! I really like the alien Jedi, hope to see lots more (Kit Fisto would be very cool, and an Ishi Tib Jedi would rock, since they're one of my other favorite species :) Keep up the great work!!

BradFu!

PS - I agree on the eyes, pull 'em out some more and it'll be perfect :)

nucular_jedi_14
05-25-2002, 06:23 PM
http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/jarjarbinks/index.html




he's anoying but would look cool in jedi outkast.

moooa
05-26-2002, 06:59 AM
If u want some pics of dengar models go there
http://www.geocities.com/mooooa2002/
I'm taking some screenshot

And for the ref pic I'm using google search picture, but I use too some illustration book about starwars, but I think u have right Lucko the eyes must sticks out more

ShodiKGian
05-27-2002, 04:25 PM
I haven't seen that model up on any of the sites, just curious as to if it was availible yet :)

The Rel)ee(V)eR
05-27-2002, 05:02 PM
Nice, although I don't care for Ackbar, that is a very good representation of him, I love your dengar model though, I'm wondering when itll be available?

moooa
05-28-2002, 09:07 AM
I've finished Dengar and have submitted him to jediknghtii.net
but for the moment,a dn I don't know why, he's not available for download. I will re-submited him tonight
And I have finished meshed the first lod of ackbar and will post pics tonight too

Ragnar
05-28-2002, 09:12 AM
LMAO you guys really fly through making these models.
By the time us noobs learn how to do it, there will be no one interesting left to make.
heh. ;)

moooa
05-28-2002, 01:49 PM
I'm sorry but I'm not english and I've not understand all the message ragnar

But if u want to know dengar is my first model for a game and I use 3d prog since 2 month

Cmdr. Antilles
05-28-2002, 02:44 PM
He's saying that you make models so quickly there will not be any good people left to model by the time that he learns how to model.

If that makes any sense...

moooa
05-28-2002, 03:32 PM
Thanks Cmdr Antilles :)

For me it has a sense and it's what I have fairly understand :)

moooa
05-31-2002, 03:03 PM
I finished modelling
Here some pics : http://www.geocities.com/mooooa2002/

Now I will weighting the point

Mr.Hippo
05-31-2002, 03:18 PM
Lookin good Moooa, can't wait to use him in game.

[You changed Dengar a lot.]

adillon
05-31-2002, 03:24 PM
hey moooa, great model you got there!

my ONLY constructive criticism:

- all the mon calamari i've seen seem to have a gut of some sort - their belts hang pretty low. your model is very fit and trim compared to them. here's what i mean:

http://www.starwars.com/databank/species/moncalamari/index_eu.html

and a few questions:

- is he a generic mon calamari or is it ACTUALLY supposed to be admiral ackbar?

- if he's generic, do you have some kind of background story for him - i mean, is he a jedi, bounty hunter, etc?

- i always dig what people come up with regarding sounds/taunts ... any ideas for this guy?

good luck with the rest of this project. can't wait to see the final product. keep up the great work!

BradFu
05-31-2002, 03:32 PM
Very nice, Moooa! I can't wait till you've finished him up and released him :) I hope you won't mind if I do a re-skin on him immediately when you release him, I'm just REALLY looking forward to making myself a Mon Calamari Jedi :D Would it be possible to make his belt a seperate Surface that can be turned off? If not, that's cool :)

Keep up the good work! Any idea what you might do when you finish this one? Hope to see more aliens from you! :)

BradFu!

Epimetheus
05-31-2002, 05:45 PM
I think the upper lip needs some definition. Or maybe the lower? Anyway, something needs to be sticking out more around the mouth.

moooa
05-31-2002, 06:28 PM
Thanx adillon, I don't have this ref pics !
And I'm think u're right, i gonna widen the torso, put the belt lower and maybe put the head more forward. For the lips I'm afraid to have too much polygon after increasing the definition
Adillon, I'm making like Absath and Bloodriot for there mandolarion model different skin, one Ackbar, a generic mon calamari (like on your pics) and one or 2 original concept.
For the sound, i first finish the model and put some taunts and different sounds but if someone knows where I can find some Ackbar sound it will be great
Bradfu if u want when i finished the first skin I can give the jpg so if u want we can put your skin in the pk3

adillon
05-31-2002, 06:54 PM
hey moooa,

the best sound i've found so far is "may the force be with us" - don't know if it really works as a taunt, however.

check it out here:

http://www.mattsmoviesounds.freeserve.co.uk/sounds/ackbar_force.wav

it may need some cleaning up, too. i'll keep looking and see what else i can find.

Pedantic
05-31-2002, 09:08 PM
Well, for a taunt, I might be able to get something from ROTJ if he says anything good (I can't remember :) ) and if I ever finish the download. ;)

GouldSite
05-31-2002, 09:35 PM
Moooa, I *DEFINITELY* want that Mon Calamari skin. I am eagerly anticipating its completion; the pictures so far look extremely good.

Would you e-mail me the skin or tell me where to download the skin upon its completion? My e-mail address is andy@shadowport.net .

Thanks again!

-Andrew Gould

BradFu
06-02-2002, 08:14 PM
Moooa, any updates? :)

I eagerly await this model. I'm hoping to make a cool Mon cal Jedi Knight once you release this model. I asked this before, but you might have missed it in my previous post, but would it be possible to make the belt a seperate surf so it can be turned off for more variety in skinning?

Thanks!
BradFu!

Droidekas
06-02-2002, 08:37 PM
Freaking! I word of advice: You don't need to make him exactly has Akbar, Akbar was an old moncalamari. This model should represent a average moncalamari, it's up to the skinners to make the differences. Eyes look fine to me, it gives a younger look.

moooa
06-03-2002, 02:47 PM
Due to less of time, I'm only making 2 skin : ackbar and a simple mon calamari.
I've finished the mesh and skinning the first 2 lod
And bradfu, for the belt i will use a separate texture.
I will post in 1 or 2 hour some update pics.
thanks for all the feedback

moooa
06-03-2002, 04:16 PM
Here's the update
I make the model bigger and put the belt lower

moooa
06-03-2002, 04:19 PM
Ouppps I forget the link

http://www.geocities.com/mooooa2002/

It's the last picture in the bottom-right

Lucko Mabri
06-03-2002, 04:33 PM
Oh My God Mooa! Your Too :cool: ! Keep Up The Good Work!:eets: :syoda:

adillon
06-03-2002, 05:43 PM
yeah, he's really rocking now! i like that you made him bulkier and dropped the belt down a bit.

awesome work, moooa! can't wait to see him skinned. keep it up.

Anavel Gato
06-03-2002, 06:19 PM
Great model moooa! And LOD's too! :D

adillon
06-03-2002, 06:21 PM
hey moooa! just a little bit of info i think may interest you regarding your dengar model. i think i read a post somewhere that pointed out the fact that you can see what looks like part of the stormtrooper's armor on dengar's back. and i believe you said that you might modify it and re-release an updated version at some time. am i right so far?

if i am, DON'T CHANGE A THING ON DENGAR!!!

here's why (not the picture, just read the text and you'll see what i mean):

http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/dengar/bts.html

great work, man! keep it up!

BradFu
06-04-2002, 02:17 AM
Excellent! I hope it's done soon, I really really can't wait to have it :D Mon Calamari rock!.

Moooa, if you'd like, I would be happy to help you out with some alternate skins. Here's several skins I've done recently.

http://windu.cjb.net/TauwNew.jpg
http://windu.cjb.net/newjedi.jpg
http://windu.cjb.net/shot4.jpg
http://windu.cjb.net/jediknight.jpg

The clothing on all of these is 100% from scratch, the faces heavily modified (except for the Twi'Lek, that's from scratch). If you're interested, feel free to e-mail me, bradfu@msn.com

BradFu!

moooa
06-04-2002, 01:13 PM
Ok thanx adillon for the info. So I don't change my dengar model
And bradfu no prob I think I finished the mapping tomorrow so I will send u the file. I've finished skinning him but I need to map him to see if he move well

Delmar
06-04-2002, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by adillon
DON'T CHANGE A THING ON DENGAR!!!


I concur. Release that puppy!

adillon
06-04-2002, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by Delmar


I concur. Release that puppy!

he is released ... jediknightii.net has him under the model section of downloads. d/l him last night, as a matter of fact.

Delmar
06-04-2002, 04:40 PM
well then.. shame on me. :)

EDIT: I'd love to, but jk2.net's download links appear to be down. Again. :evil6:

Is there any chance that anyone can email the Dengar file to me? del@reid.cx

Nanodagiardino
06-04-2002, 11:07 PM
I DON'T HAVE HIM!!! Noooo I missed it and now the file section is again in flames!!!

MankaCat
06-05-2002, 02:58 AM
before you release the model it would be much appreciated if you would release the SDK

Tobrac
06-05-2002, 02:04 PM
How long 'till this Calamari is finished? Me wants!!!! :dozey:

BradFu
06-06-2002, 02:16 AM
I don't normally like to bump, but BUMP :)

BradFu!

moooa
06-06-2002, 06:00 PM
Thanx bradfu
me too I don't like it but ... oups sorry I do it :)

No just say that I have almost finished to uvmap the model
And to make a new skin what file do u want bradfu

Nanodagiardino
06-07-2002, 11:50 AM
Since I am almost finished with my twilek skin, and you are almost finishe with your model, if you need alternate skinners just post it!

BradFu
06-07-2002, 04:00 PM
If you can e-mail it to me when you're done, the model and the basic maps, I'll crank something out that hopefully will be good :) I've had a lot of fun doing a skin from scratch for spacermonkey's female twi'lek model, can't wait to try my hand at this one :)

bradfu@msn.com

BradFu!

BradFu
06-08-2002, 05:08 PM
Page 2? No way!! :)

BradFu!

Tobrac
06-09-2002, 05:28 AM
How many Skins is this Calamari going to come with?

Nanodagiardino
06-09-2002, 04:59 PM
*Bump* Can't let this go on pg2, no sir

Is this thing dying or what? Any updates?

moooa
06-09-2002, 06:12 PM
Hi everyone and thanx for the feedback
I've finished to weight the points.
I start to map the head

Here's some pics :
http://www.geocities.com/mooooa2002/

adillon
06-09-2002, 06:20 PM
looking good, moooa! i just think his eyes are looking outward too much, like in 2 different directions. they should be looking more towards the front of his face, like in tobrac's avatar.

it IS getting there ... keep up the great work!

Nanodagiardino
06-09-2002, 06:24 PM
A little late but I found thishttp://swg-de.emr.net/pics/art/moncal5.jpg

BradFu
06-09-2002, 07:01 PM
Looking great Moooa! Agreed on the eyes, if you point them forward more, it'll be perfect! Very nicely colored and textured!

BradFu!

moooa
06-09-2002, 07:24 PM
I agree with u adillon and bradfu. I change it, I think it's better now :

http://www.geocities.com/mooooa2002/

And thx for the pix Nanodagiardino

spacermonkey
06-09-2002, 07:37 PM
Its a TRAP !

admiral Ackbar is looking good, I think a mon calamari has some good skinning potential. :D

Nanodagiardino
06-09-2002, 08:14 PM
also available in blue :)

http://swg-de.emr.net/pics/art/moncal3.jpg

adillon
06-09-2002, 10:32 PM
the eyes are MUCH better. can't wait to see the rest of the body skinned. i really dig the blue skin Nanodagiardino posted ... would be very cool to see those kind of variations once you're done with him, moooa.

that's all i have to say right now, man ... great work!

Darkhold X
06-09-2002, 10:35 PM
You will need a shader to make him look like he is slobbering.:D

BradFu
06-09-2002, 10:51 PM
Ackbar doesn't slobber :P He just talks like he has flem in his throat :)

Moooa: Perfect! Can't wait to try my hand at skinning this guy :D This is definitely the model I'm most anxios for :D

BradFu!

Core Critical
06-09-2002, 10:57 PM
WOOOOWWWWW I feel dizzy

This is the first post, first thread ever and I see THIS!! Why doesn't anybody speak of these things in the outside world? This is so ****ing(sorry) cool. You are pros! Damn. What's the deal? How do you get that? I think I'm going to faint!:eek:

Darkhold X
06-10-2002, 02:20 AM
Originally posted by BradFu
Ackbar doesn't slobber :P He just talks like he has flem in his throat :)I dont know, his mouth region always seemed pretty wet to me...:)

Tobrac
06-10-2002, 05:04 PM
Don't fish always have a wet mouth? :p
That Model and skin look AWESOME!!! Hehe....Now all i'm gonna need is that Jar Jar model...Ackbar VS Jar Jar...Heh

Awesome work dude. Release soon!!!!!!
:D

moooa
06-10-2002, 06:39 PM
I try to make a skin which looks liek more "wet"
Tell me if u pefer the first skin or the last

http://www.geocities.com/mooooa2002/

Cmdr. Antilles
06-10-2002, 07:03 PM
The 'Wet' look is definately a lot better. Great work!

Ozma
06-10-2002, 07:24 PM
I like the blue picture Nanodagiardino posted. Awesome looking :D

BradFu
06-10-2002, 07:25 PM
Looks good! :D

Have you unwrapped the whole thing yet, or just the head?

BradFu!

GouldSite
06-11-2002, 12:30 AM
Mooooa, will you make sure to e-mail me the .pk3 of ALL your Mon Cal skins when you finish? My e-mail address is andy@shadowport.net.

It looks awesome. I can't wait!!

-Andrew Gould

BradFu
06-11-2002, 08:01 PM
*COUGH*bump*COUGH

Hollowpoint
06-12-2002, 03:03 AM
I like the wet look
:mon:

Tobrac
06-16-2002, 02:25 PM
Coming along nicely..Can't wait!!!!b ..but page 3.....


Bump.


*Runs*

Kranckor
06-16-2002, 02:38 PM
Coming along nicely :D

Kranckor
06-16-2002, 02:42 PM
You can try this for a variation:
http://www.lucasarts.com/products/galaxies/images/screen/46.jpg

BradFu
06-16-2002, 03:13 PM
Posted this earlier, but it got chopped off with the new server.

The full skin looks great, Mooaaa! (By the way, to anyone who didn't see his post earlier, he mentioned that he had finished the rest of the skin, and just needed to finish the other LODs. You can see the new shots at http://www.geocities.com/mooooa2002/ )

Of all the models currently in progress, this one is at the top of my list! :D

BradFu!

Delmar
06-16-2002, 10:35 PM
sorry to hijack this thread but since it's regarding your dengar model i think it's ok.. right?

anyway, i know you plan on fixing dengar's back once your done with the moncalamari model, but are you going to fix his stance/backstab problem as well? i know that bloodriot and absath's fett models have the same issue and it's due to some "tying the lightsaber to the bone" issue (or something like that)... also, does the mon calamari model have this issue as well?

Darth Torgo
06-17-2002, 12:23 AM
Because so many of the cool models coming out are empty when they get dismembered. It doesn't ruin the model or anything, but it's a shame to see someone go to that much trouble in creating a model only for them to look so fake when they are killed in a game with dismemberments. The Arra Sing model looks really terrible when it's dismembered, by the way. Replace Kyle's skin with hers and try it out--it's modo crappy.

Anyway, just thought I'd ask. The only model I've seen that seems to have used caps is the Vader one.

- DT

moooa
06-17-2002, 12:33 AM
Thanx bradfu for the post
Delmar many people suggest me to not change dengar back because if u see on the starwars site, it said that the armor of dengar is a stormtrooper modified armor, but yes I will fix the bug.
Spacermonkey helps me for this but i'm not sure to understand the all.

And for ackbar, he moves not well for the moment. After i finished uvmapped the lod1 and 2. And after send the file to the skinner to put differnet skin in the pk3

moooa
06-17-2002, 12:49 AM
Darth Torgo
Is my dengar have pb with the "dismemberation". because i include cap with him

Delmar
06-17-2002, 10:11 AM
i agree with that point- i don't think the dengar model needs any alterations in terms of appearance, just the stance issue. you've done a *great*job on it and i hate for it to have such a glaring fault like that.

AoD-Venom
06-19-2002, 01:41 PM
No! please! Not page 2 NOOOOOOOO!

*Bump*

whoops........... *hehe*

Uber Sith
06-19-2002, 04:35 PM
This model is cool......

But when ya release it... release the model seperate to the otehrr skins and leave them as a choice to download....

(as much as i like the mandalorian i only really wanted jango and Boba)

so just send Ackbar when ya done with it.. plus it makes up for downloading with a 56k :D :D :D :D

adillon
06-19-2002, 09:47 PM
moooa - the full skin is looking SWEET! i'd like to see a mon calamari jedi skin if that's possible.

how the progress coming along?

Kranckor
06-20-2002, 05:05 AM
WAKEY WAKEY THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BradFu
06-20-2002, 05:40 AM
adillon: From the moment I first saw this model, I've been planning on creating a Mon Cal Jedi, so there will definitely be one from me at least :)

BradFu!

adillon
06-20-2002, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by BradFu
I've been planning on creating a Mon Cal Jedi

well that, my man, is what i wanted to hear!

Ozma
06-20-2002, 01:44 PM
Bumparoo....

Tobrac
06-22-2002, 11:19 PM
Updates? Anyone?
:(

moooa
06-23-2002, 12:38 AM
Sorry for the late of this update
I fix most of the move bug, I think i will fix all tomorow
,after just have to uvmap the lod1 and 2 and I can give the model to the skinner (and fix 2 skin bug)

nomad
06-23-2002, 01:32 AM
moooa,
thanks for Dengar, I'm so glad someone made him.
The Ackbar model looks GREAT! Looks like you are doing some really nice work.

Thanks again

-nomad

May the force be with you

BradFu
06-23-2002, 02:46 AM
Cool Mooaaa! Can't wait!!! :D

Any plans for your next model? :)

moooa
06-23-2002, 05:33 AM
Thx Nomad and bradfu
and for my next model ig88 or zam wesel or maybe a male twilek but i though that someone he's making a male twilek

nomad
06-23-2002, 11:31 AM
and for my next model ig88 or zam wesel or maybe a male twilek

Yes!! Any one of those ideas is great news for all of us.
Best of luck finishing up this model.

-nomad

MTFBWY

BradFu
06-23-2002, 12:14 PM
Cool Mooaaa!!!! I'd like to put my vote in for male Twi'lek :D Lekku wrapped around his neck and draped over his shoulder, that might be cool! The more aliens made for JKII, the better, in my opinion :D As far as I'm aware, no one is doing a male twi'lek yet.

Though if you decide to go with Zam or IG-88 instead, that would rock too :D

Tobrac
06-23-2002, 04:15 PM
Yeah, a male Twi'lek would be great. :D

Lucko Mabri
06-23-2002, 04:35 PM
Mooa! You are da bomb! i luv your models and this one is especially amazing! Great Work!

-Lucko Mabri

p.s-I vote for Zam Wessel :D

Delmar
06-23-2002, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by Lucko Mabri
I vote for Zam Wessel

me too!

Harukaze
06-23-2002, 10:25 PM
BradFu, by MonCal Jedi, do you have Cilghal in mind, or your own Jedi? It could be interesting to see Cilghal. She, of course, more than anyone else, would acquire the common term I've heard thrown around quite a bit: "Heal slut." It would be amusing if nothing else to see a well defined Cilghal in battle.

BradFu
06-24-2002, 01:04 AM
Heheh
Naw, mine will be a Male, Prequel-era Mon Cal Jedi. He's going to be part of my Kanthen Sector Watchmen project.

Tobrac
06-25-2002, 11:09 PM
u..p..d..a..t...e..?
Sorry, i just reallly really want this cool model. :D

Vesentac
06-26-2002, 06:12 PM
if someone did a Twilek male model, I assure you it better be based off Tott Doneeta

D.L.
06-26-2002, 07:08 PM
I dowloaded that Dengar model ages ago.

Maybe 2-3 weeks ago

KDOGGG
06-27-2002, 02:19 AM
I have been waiting to see a IG-88 model. I wanted to make one but got too confused with the 3d modeling programs. So I put my vote in for IG-88 . Thanks.

moooa
06-27-2002, 04:57 AM
So let me see
The twilek have 3 votes, IG88 1 vote and zam wesel 1 vote
When I finish ackbar I'll make the one who has most of the vote
I hope finish him at the end of the weekend

For ackbar I finish at least , the lod0 and he moves cool I think
I start uvmap the lod1
I have to fix some skin and mesh error so I will post new pics tomorow

adillon
06-27-2002, 05:03 AM
moooa, a male twi'lek would absolutely ...

ROCK!

count my vote for him. and if you make him half as well as dengar and the mon cal, the community is in for a treat. and just some food for thought, (and maybe jumping the gun a bit) but maybe the default twi'lek, blue and red team colors could each have different variations of the lekku (draped, hanging, etc). again, just something to think about.

keep up the great work, moooa!

moooa
06-27-2002, 05:10 AM
Thanx adillon but for the red and blue team I don't know if it's possible because I think that the diiference is only with the skin not with the mesh. But I'm not sure maybe we can try

Lucko Mabri
06-27-2002, 05:55 AM
Zam Wessel Has 2 Actually! :p

BradFu
06-27-2002, 06:20 AM
Actually, if you made two or three sets of lekku as seperate surfaces that can be turned on and off, you could have different lekku configurations for different skins. I think this would be an awesome idea if possible, because it would mean there would be a great deal of variation possible with skinning, to the point that it looks like seperate models :D You could have one set just straight hanging down the back, one set simply draped over the shoulders, one set hanging around the neck. Even without that, though, a male twi'lek would be cool :) Tott Doneeta is my favorite Tales of the Jedi-era character, he just looks so badass :D

Can't wait for the Mon Cal to be done so I can get goin on my Jedi version :)

Jango_Fett91
06-27-2002, 06:38 AM
This model looks great though it would be cooler after Star Wars Galaxies is realesed because you can be a Mon Calamarie and train to become a Jedi, so you can be more used to it. I dunno....:o

TrevHimself
06-27-2002, 07:27 AM
i vote for the male twi'lek. and the idea with the different lekku surfaces sounds good.

Lucko Mabri
06-27-2002, 01:59 PM
*Holds Up Banner* VOTE FOR ZAM WESSEL! *Notices Boc And Bib Fortuna* eeeek! *Runs Off*

Delmar
06-27-2002, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by Lucko Mabri
*Holds Up Banner* VOTE FOR ZAM WESSEL! *Notices Boc And Bib Fortuna* eeeek! *Runs Off*

*Picks up banner and holds it high*

VOTE FOR ZAM WESSELL!

LINK-ER
06-27-2002, 08:49 PM
I only have a few bones to pick with the admiral Ackbar so far. On his face, his eyes are not bugged out alone, they have skin around them and from the front are barely visible (the actual eye, the skin is visible). Also, around the top of his mouth and bottom of his mouth, to his neck there are a LOT! of wrinkles. I don't know if you've already skinned him or not, just putting my 2 cents in.

Vesentac
06-27-2002, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by Lucko Mabri
*Holds Up Banner* VOTE FOR ZAM WESSEL! *Notices Boc And Bib Fortuna* eeeek! *Runs Off*

Umm no, Boc was a stupid jackass.


Who is Tott Doneeta? (http://jediencyclopedia.150m.com/tottdoneeta.html)

Click on the above link and check out some pics and bio about tott. If the background kills ya, highlight the text and then read.

Lucko Mabri
06-28-2002, 12:26 AM
I know boc was a stupid jackass but if a guy waz running at u with 2 purple sabers..... I'll let you work it our for yerself :D

Destroyder121
06-28-2002, 12:51 AM
Guys....use your brains...theres already twi'lek model released with her respectful skin packs!so Twi'Lek can be counted off...Sam Wessel Gets my vote

moooa
06-28-2002, 01:14 AM
[II]Darth Vader I think u confuse with the female twilek ayala made by spacermonkey. I propose a male twilek
And just a question, the twilek with a robe or with trousers like in starwars galaxy
For the moment Zam has 2 votes(4 with Lucko Mabri :))
Twilek 4 and IG88 1
For the lekku maybe we can try

Lucko Mabri
06-28-2002, 02:17 AM
no theres 3 votes actually! *du nuh nuhhhh!!!!* Delmar me and [II]Darth Vader :D

BradFu
06-28-2002, 05:25 AM
We're all aware of the female Twi'lek, we're discussing a Male twi'lek now. Based on the movies, Twi'leks seem to be the second most widely spread species (behind only humans). If someone were to count each instance of an alien species in the entire Star Wars saga, I have no doubt Twi'leks would be at the top. Not suprising, if you know a little about their homeworld. Ryloth has a strange rotation, so that one half of the planet is always extremely hot, the other side is always extremely cold. There's a narrow strip of land in the middle that's in constant twilight so people can live there. That chunk of land probably gets pretty crowded, and the world itself doesn't sound like much fun, so a lot of Twi'leks would logically want to get off :) I think it makes sense to have both a male and female Twi'lek for JKII, because of that. If nothing else, Twi'lek make really cool Jedi! (Check out Tott Doneeta!)

Kranckor
06-28-2002, 09:25 PM
Uh Brad Twi'leks have only been in three of the movies

Lucko Mabri
06-30-2002, 03:59 AM
Bumpity Bump! :D i didnt just post for bumping. i posted for a idea with zam wessel :D you know she has her mask on then off maybe you could do a tyrion stylie thing? :D just a thought

BradFu
06-30-2002, 04:51 AM
True, Kranckor, which makes it all that more substantial that they're the most widely seen alien species in the movies. Mon Calamari MAY be more, but only because you see a bunch of them in ROTJ in one place. Twi'leks are alot more widely spread.

Kranckor
07-01-2002, 02:05 PM
Well if you want to do it THAT way then Gungans would be the most seen since there were hundreds in TPM :D
:gungan: :gungan::gungan::gungan::gungan::gungan::gungan:

moooa
07-02-2002, 02:22 AM
I've finished the model
Now I'm looking for guys who want to make different skin and for sounds

moooa

BradFu
07-02-2002, 02:30 AM
Me me me me me me me me me me! :D :D :D :D

I've been watching the progress of this model, eagerly awaiting the chance to create my Jedi Mon Calamari :D

My e-mail address is bradfu@msn.com

BradFu
07-02-2002, 02:33 AM
Originally posted by Kranckor
Well if you want to do it THAT way then Gungans would be the most seen since there were hundreds in TPM :D
:gungan: :gungan::gungan::gungan::gungan::gungan::gungan:

You're right, we do see more of them than anyone else. But it's all on Naboo, so that doesn't count :) For Twi'leks, we've seen them scattered around a lot more.

moooa
07-02-2002, 02:39 AM
I've send u a mail bradfu before write this post :)
But at this email adress del@reid.cx
If u want I can transfer it

moooa

BradFu
07-02-2002, 03:29 AM
Mooaaa, if you could e-mail a link to download it at bradfu@msn.com, that would be great :) del@reid.cx isn't my e-mail, I think it's Delmar's.

Thanks!

moooa
07-02-2002, 04:20 AM
Sorry Bradfu for this mistake
I'll send u the mail right now

For the update pics here it is :
http://www.geocities.com/mooooa2002/Cala.html
I make 2 skin

Delmar
07-02-2002, 04:28 AM
yeah, that would be me. you're more than welcome to send it if you want. :P

adillon
07-02-2002, 04:32 AM
both man calamari look *BLEEP* awesome, moooa! but i wouldn't expect anything less coming from you.

i can't promise anything great, but i'd like to take a stab at skinning the mon calamari ... i have some ideas. if you're willing to let me try, can you send the appropriate files here (adillon@jkroller.com)? thanks, man!

moooa
07-02-2002, 04:53 AM
Thanx all
The file is coming up :)

moooa

TrevHimself
07-02-2002, 07:24 AM
id love to try my hand at skinning this.
trevhimself@aol.com

Kranckor
07-02-2002, 07:26 AM
Mooa can I take a crack at skinning your excellent model? What's your e-mail?

nucular_jedi_14
07-02-2002, 07:37 AM
i'm ready! - spongebob

Grets Sirob
07-02-2002, 08:12 AM
Ooo, a mon calamari model.
Sweet!
Glad I started looking here at the end of the path, instead of the beggining(saves me that longand hard wait for the final release...)

Now, to find someone in sp to replace...




:joreth: May the force be with you.

BradFu
07-02-2002, 08:44 AM
Still waiting on the files, Mooaaa :(

That last e-mail didn't have anything attached to it, if you could try e-mailing it to my other address, that might work. bradfu@qwest.net

moooa
07-02-2002, 11:26 PM
Ok I've sending the file
Bradfu I have resend u the file on the new email address because the file is too big for the first email
Nuclear_Jedi I just finished one or two thing on the skin and send u the file to beta-test it
Krankor u can email me at moooa_duga@hotmail.com

Moooa

Kranckor
07-02-2002, 11:53 PM
Ok I just send you a e-mail moooa :D

Kranckor
07-03-2002, 12:00 AM
Hey moooa have you thought of having Ackbar say "It's a trap!" when he gets hit?

moooa
07-03-2002, 12:12 AM
I'll send u the file krankor
For sounds I don't think of anything but it might be a good idea :)

moooa
07-03-2002, 12:24 AM
Krankor the file is too big for your mail do u have another mail address

Delmar
07-03-2002, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by Kranckor
Hey moooa have you thought of having Ackbar say "It's a trap!" when he gets hit?

That's a great idea but it might get annoying when dueling...

I would love to see it worked in somewhere though. That line is classic.

Kururin
07-03-2002, 12:37 AM
Moooa can you send it to me so I can skin it and beta test it Please.

Bobafett10186@aol.com :fett:





__________________

"What if he doesn't survive; he's worth alot to me"

BradFu
07-03-2002, 08:03 AM
Whoo hoo! I'm first!

Received the files from Mooaaa this morning, very cool model!

Just finished my skin. His name is Oddev, a Jedi Watchman in the Calaron Sector just prior to Episode 2.

http://windu.cjb.net/calaron/oddev.jpg

Comments? Suggestions? Angry insults? Well, maybe not the insults.

BradFu
07-03-2002, 08:21 AM
Oopsy, forgot his belt :)

http://windu.cjb.net/calaron/oddev2.jpg

Kururin
07-03-2002, 08:31 AM
That's great BradFu

I hope I get to make a skin. Moooa please send me the model :(

Bobafett10186@aol.com


__________________

"What if he doesn't survive; he's worth alot to me"

Sounds Risky
07-03-2002, 08:48 AM
Brad, give him some highlights, or more highlights. I can't really tell if he has any.

Kranckor
07-03-2002, 10:54 AM
Moooa try godzilla@seamonkeymania.com

Kranckor
07-03-2002, 11:00 AM
how big is the file?

BradFu
07-03-2002, 12:03 PM
Way ahead of you, OCH :D I forgot to mention that I did this all today, so this is the rough draft. I usually spend a little time every day for a week or more adding and enhancing my skins. Got some good comments from Padme01 (don't ask her to veiw your work if you don't want an honest answer and good suggestions :D ) and continued to work on it tonight. Here's an update shot:

http://windu.cjb.net/calaron/oddev6.jpg

And here's what he sounds like: http://windu.cjb.net/calaron/sounds/oddev1.mp3

Tobrac
07-03-2002, 02:26 PM
Whoa...sweet skin Bradfu!!!!
Can't wait for the release.....:D

Lucko Mabri
07-03-2002, 02:42 PM
Bradfu! Stop being so good!:evil6:

-Lucko Mabri :D

nucular_jedi_14
07-03-2002, 06:07 PM
bradfu you totally kicked ass on this skin, man!

moooa
07-04-2002, 01:41 AM
Bradfu, the skin looks very very nice
But I have a bad question for all
I found on an old cd some picture of ackbar who show me some hind place of him and I see that my model is wrong.
Would u like that I change him (may 1 week i think) or not
Thanx to answer

moooa

sorry bobba I think that I have send u the file. I just wait 1 night to see if I must change the model

nomad
07-04-2002, 03:43 AM
Moooa,
what is it that is wrong with him from behind? -just curious-

If it bothers you, then you should probably change it :eek: (Sorry Bradfu). Though, you did a really nice job on the skin, hopefully it won't be too hard to re-fit it if moooa does change anything.

-nomad

MTFBWY

BradFu
07-04-2002, 04:26 AM
Hey, feel free to change him, Mooaaa, it's not a problem. I'm sure I'll be able to refit my skins to it :) While your at it, I've got one request for the change: if you could re-map the hands. that would be great. They're not working well in my skin because they're getting their skins from the Head image.

Here's a cool shot I threw together of Oddev:
http://windu.cjb.net/calaron/jedioddev.jpg

I REALLY like how the tabards turned out because of the vest-like thing Ackbar is wearing. Compared to my other Jedi, the tabards on this one are 3000% better, simply because they stick out.

iTeM
07-04-2002, 04:34 AM
GW on that skin, BradFu!

moooa
07-04-2002, 04:36 AM
Just change one little thing on the head but the texture will not changed
But the torso and torso body must be change and also the hips and leg must be attach because it looks crazy in the game( with a full pants). Just correct the wrist too but based on the same texture
For your skin bradfu I think I just need to give u a new glm file
with the head correct base on the same texture (and the saber bug fixed)For the torso, torso body and leg it wil change nothing for u.
So for the skinner it will change nothing if u preview to put boot on your model. I just give u a new glm file with head and wrist correcting.
For the change the torso will not be close at the side (lower the arm) and the torso body will go down until the toso_hips
so this 2 textures will change

BradFu
07-04-2002, 04:39 AM
Sounds good to me. Send it to my bradfu@qwest.net e-mail when it's done and I'll rework my skin (if it needs to be) :D

Anybody have any comments on Oddev's voice? Here it is again:
http://windu.cjb.net/calaron/sounds/oddev2.mp3

moooa
07-04-2002, 04:43 AM
I'm impressed of your skin bradfu
Finnally I think the new model wiil help you
No prob with the hands I will remap them
And I see a very good pic of ackbar head (front side back) and I can had some details on my textures so if you are interest

moooa

Lucko Mabri
07-04-2002, 04:47 AM
Hey Bradfu,
1 comment on the voice. it just seems to not be there you now what i mean? like not there as in literally not there! :D

-Lucko Mabri

BradFu
07-04-2002, 05:00 AM
Heheh, stupid me
http://windu.cjb.net/calaron/sounds/oddev1.mp3

mooaaa: Very cool. I found some good side and back pictures as well, so I was planning on adding more details to Oddev's head anyway :) Soon as you've got it how you want it, send it on over :D

Lucko Mabri
07-04-2002, 05:12 AM
Now that is one good taunt! Sounds so fishy!........ I'm nto saying that fish speak or anything..... :D

-Lucko Mabri

p.s-I do seriosuly luv the taunt!

nomad
07-04-2002, 05:36 AM
I love the skin Bradfu!
Really glad to have a Mon Cal Jedi. And yeah, the sticking out of those flaps does work nicely, much better than JUST painted on :)

I would suggest, for doing the voice, do the same thing you did, but with a bunch of slime in your mouth.

Well don't actually use slime LOL... maybe even ice cubes would work.
sThhe Forthhcsse Issthss hWithh Meehh... *slurp*

Nice job all the way around.

-nomad

MTFBWY

Lucko Mabri
07-04-2002, 05:39 AM
Great Idea! :D

-Lucko Mabri

Sounds Risky
07-04-2002, 05:48 AM
If I can make a suggestion specifically for the Jedi Mon Cal. Would it be possibly to change the model to make it look more like he's wearing boots?

BradFu
07-04-2002, 06:04 AM
I know what you mean. Had to improvise with the lower legs to make it look like boots, but the cuff still looks a touch weird. Mooaaa, if theres any way an alternate surface without a cuff, that would be awesome :) If not, I don't think it's going to be noticable in game, so no big deal :)

Kranckor
07-04-2002, 07:20 AM
I still haven't recieved a e-mail from you, did you see my last response in this thread?

TrevHimself
07-04-2002, 03:33 PM
i got the model and started on my skin a few minutes ago. im gonna go for a sith mon cal of some sort. heres a very early screen...
http://www.verbicide.net/~trevor/jk2skins/ackbarskin.jpg
i just started the head and i havent worked on the body at all. just thought id let everyone know im giving it a shot.

also, moooa, if you could send me the updated .glm as well i would greatly appriciate that.

spelling idiocy

TrevHimself
07-05-2002, 09:46 AM
i made some progress on my skin...heres a screen:
http://www.verbicide.net/~trevor/jk2skins/ackbarskin2.jpg
anyone happen to have any ideas for a name for this guy? i suppose ill try to write a background story, though ive never done anything like that before, he's either gonna be a sith apprentice or a dark jedi. err...yeah.

Eets
07-05-2002, 09:49 AM
Originally posted by TrevHimself
i made some progress on my skin...heres a screen:
http://www.verbicide.net/~trevor/jk2skins/ackbarskin2.jpg
anyone happen to have any ideas for a name for this guy? i suppose ill try to write a background story, though ive never done anything like that before, he's either gonna be a sith apprentice or a dark jedi. err...yeah.

Bah! Stealing my idea before I even have the model, eh? I see how it is...

*gives Trev a watchful eye*

Tobrac
07-06-2002, 02:37 AM
Tsk Tsk..page 2 :D

TrevHimself
07-06-2002, 04:47 AM
i added some texture to him. heres a closer front shot and a back one just because i realized i havent posted one.ackbarskin3.jpg (http://www.verbicide.net/~trevor/jk2skins/ackbarskin3.jpg)
im gonna try to add more highlights on the blacker parts so oyu can see it better. i wanna add more "stuff" on there but im not sure what yet..we'll see....

also, im trying to think of a name for him still, please share some ideas or he's gonna be named John Travolta. the last thing anyone wants to see is washed up actor's names in jk2...

moooa
07-06-2002, 05:35 PM
Nice model Trevor :D
Ok I have finished to change the mesh and now make the new skin. So the torso, torso_body,hips and belt texture will change.
I will make different glm file. One with pants look right, one with boots and i kept the old glm with just the head and wrist changed but with the same texture. And for my Terpfen model I will make a custom head.
I hope posting pics tonight (in 10hours), explaining you what are the difference between each model
And so can the skinner tell me what glm file they want
Other question : do u want that I release a skinpack with all your skin or do u just want to release your skin alone

moooa

moooa
07-06-2002, 06:35 PM
I forget to say that I can mix different part of the model
example : terpfen head + boots+ old torso etc
Just tell me what u want

moooa

Grafox
07-06-2002, 07:41 PM
I'd also like to have a shot at making a skin for this wonderfull model!

TrevHimself
07-07-2002, 04:26 AM
holy crap i was out of it when i posted this....
i'll be using the boots .glm, but i wouldnt mind having both.
i say, every skin that you like should be in the skinpack.
and i'm glad you like my skin so far.

old post (because it's funny):

i'll be uses using the boots .glm, but i wouldnt mind both.

i say, every you that you like should be in the skinpack.

and i'm glad you like my skin so far.

Lucko Mabri
07-07-2002, 04:30 AM
Hey Bradfu!
Are you going to go ahead with the ice cubes in your mouth taunt idea? i'd love to hear it lol :D

-Lucko Mabri

adillon
07-08-2002, 03:38 AM
BradFu and TrevHimself, the skins you've made for an awesome model are breathtaking. great work!

brad, i'm glad you're making a jedi mon cal ... i'm currently working on my dark jedi/sith mon cal. the blue on blue is great! trev, is your skin a sith also? looks like it with all the black clothing and stuff. i dig the fact that your skin doesn't have the spots ... tres nice. variety is the spice of life, you know?

moooa sent me all the files i need to create a skin, but i've been on vacation so now i'm getting into my creation. i have a problem that's really IRRITATING, however, and i'm wondering if somebody can help me. when i use ModView to open the .glm file, i get an error that says "Filesystem call made without initialization." wtf does that mean?! i can't get around it, and i'm about to pull my hair out. i'm sure it's been discussed elsewhere on the forums, but i can't find it. any help would be appreciated.

moooa, since you've made changes to the model and mesh, do you think i'd need to work on the revised one instead of the one i have? if so, can you send it here (adillon@jkroller.com)? thanks! also, are you planning on releasing the model (with skins) as a pack at one time, like the aayla secura model? if so, when would you want the skin i'm working on by (that is, of course, if it meets your standards ... ;) )?

if i can get the ModView thing worked out, you'll be posted on my progress very soon.

TrevHimself
07-08-2002, 03:58 AM
adillon, mine's a sith as well. im glad you like it so far.

as for your modview problem, it's never happened to me so i can't really help you.

genthar
07-08-2002, 04:13 AM
Trev, don't worry I love making up name for things. I took a class in advertising at college.

The Darkside has no boundaries, it exists in every plane of existance, on every planet, in every thing. To grant such darkness life, a Sith Lord has emerged from the murky depths of Mon Calamari. His name: DARTH BRINE!!

moooa
07-08-2002, 04:23 AM
Adillon
On the new model I will change some texture : torso, torso_body, hips and hand. And bradfu suggest me to do a jedi version of my model (with more stuff at the level of the belt and hips). i don't know if I have time to do it, but i will try
however i think u can begin your work with the model u have and just adapt it to the new
For the error u have I have the same
Just put the model in the right directory ("gamepath"\gamedata\base\models\players\modelname")
and it will work fine
For the skin, I think we better much release a skinpack but for the date we will see when u have the model

moooa

Kururin
07-08-2002, 04:25 AM
Moooa I never got the model.:(

moooa
07-08-2002, 04:32 AM
I know bobba but I'm working on the new model and I think that u better like the new one.
But if u want I can send u the old model

Kururin
07-08-2002, 04:36 AM
The old will be okay

Thank you moooa

:) Bobafett10186@aol.com

Eets
07-08-2002, 05:15 AM
Well, I got a bootleg copy of the model from Trev, and it just so happens I too am making a dark jedi mon cal :P Blue skin, black clothes.

BradFu
07-08-2002, 08:22 AM
Here's the latest update of Oddev, your friendly neighborhood Mon Cal Jedi Knight

http://windu.cjb.net/calaron/oddev7.jpg

I've been working on adding details, though I'm fighting myself to not work too hard on it in case the updates Mooaaa is working on aren't properly compatible with what I've done so far :)

Here's Oddev's lightsaber:

http://windu.cjb.net/calaron/oddevsaber.jpg

I was going for an organic mixed with technology look. I wanted some nice curves, like the Mon Cal Cruisers :)

Eets
07-08-2002, 08:48 AM
w00t! that saber is beautiful, Brad.

nomad
07-08-2002, 09:13 AM
Great Job Bradfu!
I like the look of the saber too, definitely the Mon Cal feel.

Keep up the excellent work Mooa, it is much appreciated!

Everyone doing the different skins has shown some nice looking work. Multi-Skin Packs are a great thing.
Thanks!!

-nomad

MTFBWY

adillon
07-08-2002, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by moooa
For the error u have I have the same
Just put the model in the right directory ("gamepath"\gamedata\base\models\players\modelname")
and it will work fine

ok, i tried that, but it's giving me a new error ...

"R_LoadMDXM: missing animation file models/player/_humanoid/_humanoid for mesh model.glm

HELP ME!

TrevHimself
07-08-2002, 11:45 AM
adillion you need to extract that humanoid thinkg from the assets0.pk3 file. look at the readme thta came with the editing tools (modview came with the editing tools), it says some stuff in there about extracting a couple things to get modview working.

Kranckor
07-08-2002, 01:28 PM
I still haven't heard from you moooa :(

adillon
07-08-2002, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by TrevHimself
adillion you need to extract that humanoid thinkg from the assets0.pk3 file. look at the readme thta came with the editing tools (modview came with the editing tools), it says some stuff in there about extracting a couple things to get modview working.

thanks trev. like i said, i had just gotten back from vacation, but i don't think my brain had. i appreciate the help.

-EDIT-
trev, i extracted all the files i was supposed to, and VOILA, it worked. the problem was that i HAD done that before, but due to some unfortunate computer issues i had a little while ago, i had to uninstall/reinstall various software, and all the jk2 editing stuff went with it. maybe if i would've read all the docs AGAIN, i would've figured it out.

thanks for pointing out the obvious to a poor schmoe like me, trev. :o

Tobrac
07-08-2002, 10:52 PM
Some great skins in the making here...keep up the good work!!!!!

Grafox
07-08-2002, 11:10 PM
Still wating for that SDK.

Eets
07-09-2002, 09:21 AM
*points to avatar*

I love this model. :D

adillon
07-09-2002, 11:35 AM
for any interested parties (esp. moooa, BradFu, TrevHimself) who would like to see and/or comment on my skin of the mon calamari model, please go here (http://64.246.44.70/~lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=67989).

thanks for your input in advance.

TrevHimself
07-09-2002, 02:41 PM
hey ets, post a screen of your skin.

Eets
07-09-2002, 08:29 PM
:D Here's the player icon...

Kranckor
07-09-2002, 10:52 PM
Will you please send me the files moooa sent you he was supposed to but he never did :( do you use AIM or MSN, it would be easier to get the file that way.

Grafox
07-09-2002, 11:11 PM
Originally posted by Kranckor
Will you please send me the files moooa sent you he was supposed to but he never did :( do you use AIM or MSN, it would be easier to get the file that way.

Dito that for me. grafox@quicknet.nl

moooa
07-10-2002, 12:06 AM
Sorry krankor and grafox but i think that u prefer have the new glm
the mail has been send 5 min ago
all my apologize

moooa

adillon
07-10-2002, 12:26 AM
Originally posted by moooa
i think that u prefer have the new glm

moooa, i have the older one, but would you mind sending me the newer glm here (adillon@jkroller.com), if you think i should use it at this time AND if it's not too much of a hassle? i don't know if i'll need it or not, i just want to be sure that the skin won't change without my knowledge between the glm i have and the newer one. thanks.

also, can someone please remind me how to turn surface on/off? i wanna turn the belt surface off, but i'm not sure if i'm able to.

i posted a thread in the skinning forum regarding my skin for the mon calamari model, but haven't gotten a lot of feedback (except from klorel, bradfu and trevhimself ... thanks fellas :D). for those of you who are interested, you can see it at this location (http://members.verizon.net/~vze3p69r/mc_sith1.jpg). any criticism/feedback/rants/praises you can give me would be great.

hey brad, your links don't work anymore ... FYI.

moooa
07-10-2002, 12:32 AM
Hi adillon
The new glm is not ready for the moment
I'll see your work and its' pretty good
I'm making a jedi mon calamari mesh, if u want to it
I'll try to show pics soon, but don't really have time for the moment
For turning the belt I do't know how to do (maybe in modview, in the left go to the belt right click and set it off but I can't save the file after)

moooa

TrevHimself
07-10-2002, 02:02 AM
here's my model_default.surf file:

surfOff "hips_belt"
surfOn ""

i dont know if i still need the surfon part.
in modview click "model.glm>surfaces>////stupidtriangle", then right-click "hips_belt" and select OFF. you can then goto "file>write script" and not have to reppeat the process.

moooa
07-10-2002, 02:53 AM
Thx Trev for the information :D
But just one question: does the surface which is hidden be render (in the polygon count ) in the game

adillon
07-10-2002, 03:23 AM
Originally posted by TrevHimself
here's my model_default.surf file:

surfOff "hips_belt"
surfOn ""

i dont know if i still need the surfon part.
in modview click "model.glm>surfaces>////stupidtriangle", then right-click "hips_belt" and select OFF. you can then goto "file>write script" and not have to reppeat the process.

thanks trev, i'll give it a whirl tonite.

moooa, i don't think i'll take the new jedi mesh. i'll work with the one i have, but thanks anyway. i'm glad you like what i've done so far ... i'm trying to make the skin worthy of being a part of your model.

BradFu
07-10-2002, 03:49 AM
Mooaaa, according to Mike Gummelt from Raven, surfaces that are Turned Off are ignored by the game engine, so they don't add to the Polycount in-game :)

adillon
07-10-2002, 07:06 AM
trev, please check your pm.

Eets
07-10-2002, 09:49 AM
Now that I have a decent vid card, here's a screenshot of my work on the bootleg model. :D

I'm open to comments/suggestions/constructive criticism.

And I know the back of the head isn't exactly "seamless" :D I'm still working on that.

http://tjc.netfirms.com/darkjedimoncal.jpg

Harukaze
07-10-2002, 10:28 AM
Hey guys, not sure if this makes a difference, but I'm pretty certain that if you're doing a blue Mon Cal, he's actually a she ^_^ Obviously fish don't have breasts, so the same model really can be used for both; and I remember reading [and seeing] that females are blue/aqua and males are red/salmon.

That said, nothing wrong imho with BradFu's wonderful Jedi skin to be a Jedi Watchwoman ;) Of course, that's Brad's call to make, but I think that'd be the case if we're holding to EU-cannon.

Then again, when did the Dark Forces series hold to EU-cannon? ^_^

BradFu
07-10-2002, 10:47 AM
Naw, that's fan speculation. Nothing official says anything about color being matched to gender. If that were the case, then Ackbar would be a sexist pig, cause his entire bridge crew is dark red, meaning male.

I think more likely, Dark red is the most common Mon Calamari race, with blue, silver, and brown being much more rare. There's actually data supporting this. Cilghal, one of Luke's first students, is a dark red color. (Pg 160, Dark Apprentice). It actually says in there that the differences between male and female is that females have smoother heads, males lumpier.

Oddev is a male, blue Mon Calamari Jedi Knight :)

Kranckor
07-10-2002, 11:34 AM
Sigh I can load the model in modview but it won't display the skins :(

TrevHimself
07-10-2002, 02:12 PM
eets: your skin is looking great, the only thing that really needs work is the darker body suit, it seems kinda off, make the ripples wider perhaps. i dig the eyes.

kranckor: it may seem like a dumb thing for me to say but is there something wrong with your model_default.skin? is it giving you any specific errors?

TrevHimself
07-10-2002, 04:21 PM
ive decided to name my mon cal Czess unless i can think of a better name later. i re-did the black body suit type thing but it's still looking too black (especially in the screen). anyway heres a crappy screen that you cant really see any detail in...
ackbarskin4.jpg (http://www.verbicide.net/~trevor/jk2skins/ackbarskin4.jpg)

Kranckor
07-11-2002, 03:59 AM
Here is Ernek:
http://www.freewebz.com/tobar/Ernnek.JPG
Note this is not the final skin

moooa
07-11-2002, 05:25 AM
The skin are looking good
Keep the good work

I put pics of new glm here. The texture are not good just and the hand will be a liitle changed.

http://www.geocities.com/mooooa2002/Cala.html

moooa

Kranckor
07-11-2002, 05:28 AM
The model looks even better! WOW GREAT JOB MOOOA :D

Eets
07-11-2002, 05:34 AM
Lookin' good, mooa!


P.S. I just got my skin ingame, as a bot and a player :D He's pretty good, even if he does hold the saber backwards ;)

TrevHimself
07-11-2002, 01:47 PM
the new mesh looks amazing. im probably gonna start over on my skin and try to make it look good. i suppsoe i'll use the jedi mesh.

Kranckor
07-11-2002, 02:19 PM
Yeah I might started on a Jedi Skin too :D

TrevHimself
07-11-2002, 02:42 PM
i will still be making my sith ksin, but perhaps just on the jedi model.

BradFu
07-11-2002, 02:49 PM
Lookin great, Mooaaa! I really appreciate you going to the extra effort of making a Jedi Mon Cal model :D If it's allright, I'd like to make one request for that model. If you could shortin the tunic and tabards a bit, that would be great. What I'm think is maybe the portion below the belt should be about half as long.

On another note.. Now that this one seems to be nearing it's final stages, what kind of mdel will you be doing next? :)

Kit Fisto
07-11-2002, 03:09 PM
It's looking great, cant wait for a release. Now we need a Squid Face model to counter the Mon Cal.

nucular_jedi_14
07-11-2002, 09:18 PM
all of ur skins look great and so does the new mesh!
and btw how about for ur next project:http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/niennunb/index.html Nein Nunb!

Grafox
07-11-2002, 11:08 PM
Yeah, the new model looks amazing! I am gonna start skinning this weekend, since I have to work weekdays :

Ow, btw, I do would like a copy of the new mesh emailed to me. :)

adillon
07-11-2002, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by Grafox
Ow, btw, I do would like a copy of the new mesh emailed to me. :)

same goes for me too, moooa. i'd like to make sure my skin works on the new mesh, which btw is *BLEEP* amazing. i'd only need the new ackbar mesh, NOT the jedi mesh. can you PLEASE send it here (adillon@jkroller.com) and/or here (andrew.dillon@verizon.net) at your earliest convenience? thanks, man!

i have a question, too. with the new mesh, are the hands set up on their own, or are they still referring to the skin on the head?

Tobrac
07-13-2002, 03:59 PM
Could we get any Screenshots of this dude in game? Please? :p

moooa
07-13-2002, 05:53 PM
For the moment i just finish to weight the point of the ackbar model. And it will be ready
For the jedi version I must uvmap some parts and weight the points too, so this will take much time but I hope not so long because I want to make another model.
Bradfu, no problem i can shortin the different parts

moooa

bliv
07-21-2002, 09:14 AM
Is this model still going as I was looking forward to it.

adillon
07-22-2002, 10:52 AM
moooa e-mailed the appropriate files out to all those who are doing their skins (yours truly included), so yes, it is still being worked on.

stay tuned ... more to come ... :drool1:

Harukaze
07-22-2002, 11:23 AM
I'll be starting a skin myself as soon as I can find my issues of X-wing Rogue Squadron. I seem to have misplaced a fair ammount of comics which, needless to say, is making me rather unhappy. Either way, you can look forward to seeing a non-Jedi skin from me... eventually ^_^

moooa
07-22-2002, 02:45 PM
Sorry for the late the model have but I have lots of work, but I'll be nearly in holiday :)

For the model, I've ackbar in the game but without lods I have nearly finished the model with boots. And still working on the jedi model
But I have question : can someone help me for the sounds because I try to find some good ackbar sound with no success and I'm not really good in sound mixing. If someone interest send me a pm
Thanx

moooa

Delmar
07-25-2002, 02:09 PM
hey moooa, sorry i can't help you with the ackbar sounds but i have another question..

when this is done, are you still going to go back fixing dengar's saber problem?

moooa
07-25-2002, 03:27 PM
Yes I will fix the problem and change the head texture

trowa500
07-26-2002, 12:29 AM
so whos skinning it?

Rex_Raptor__
08-01-2002, 09:34 AM
Pretty Good



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Freeze!:trooper:

trowa500
08-01-2002, 11:36 PM
whos skinning ackabar?

MUHAHAHAHAHA
08-02-2002, 07:03 AM
I watched ROTJ last week, and didn't really notice any good sounds for Ackbar :(. If anyone knows what a good taunt for him would be, I can rip it from the DIVX.

moooa
08-02-2002, 08:10 AM
I have begin the sounds
For the taunts I have put "may the force be with us"
"it's trap" and "we have no choice general calrissian"
But I remember that "it's a trap" was not so good
And I try to find some good tutorial on sound program

adillon
08-02-2002, 09:01 AM
Originally posted by trowa500
so whos skinning it?

there's a bunch of people skinning the mon calamari, myself included.

here's a pic (http://members.verizon.net/~vze3p69r/mc_sith1.jpg) of my sith mon calamari, based upon the old glm. all i focused on was his coloring and eyes, NOT his clothing. unfortunately i haven't had a whole helluva lot of time to work with the new glm, but plan to tonite. and i hope to have some new shots to show soon.

trowa500
08-02-2002, 12:54 PM
looks great and hope it soulds great keep up the good work

mariners2001
08-15-2002, 11:14 PM
what's going on? is this project actually done for?

trowa500
08-16-2002, 12:33 AM
ya all of a sudden it died even though everythin was goin pretty nicely

moooa
08-16-2002, 07:00 AM
I have finish the mesh, the default texture, the move of ackbar and mon calamari with boots. I'm still working on the ctf texture, shaders and sounds. I've send all of this to the skinners but I only have answer of bobbafett, maybe the others are in holidays.

For the jedi version, I've uvmap the model and now waiting for bradfu

If u want to see pics of ackbar in game I have send the pk3 to james of modcentral but I think he's in holiday

adillon
08-16-2002, 09:30 AM
Originally posted by moooa
I've send all of this to the skinners but I only have answer of bobbafett, maybe the others are in holidays.

i wish i was on vacation ...

i've been pretty busy lately studying/taking my architectural registration exams, so haven't had a ton of time to work on my skin. someday soon, i swear. maybe if my skin isn't done when moooa's ready to release this, i'll release my version later ... as long as it's OK with him, of course.

:mon:

moooa
08-16-2002, 12:25 PM
No pb adillon
I think that your exams are more important than this skin, so make it when u have time
and since the jedi version is not finished, ackbar will not be release so I think u will have time
And I forgot before that Da Admiral send me his skin, I will just adjust it to the new mesh and show some pics

Eets
08-16-2002, 03:50 PM
Don't forget me! :D

That is, as long as you're not tired of Sith Mon Calamarians. :D

( Eets@GalacticBattles.com )

moooa
08-16-2002, 04:33 PM
Oups sorry eets
I will send u the file now
And if I forgot other people, tell me I will send u the file

moooa
08-16-2002, 05:25 PM
Eets I receive an error message from your mail
Can u give another mail adress

wolfgangpuk
08-16-2002, 05:46 PM
please send me the file!!! wolf-gang-puk@carolina.rr.com

Eets
08-16-2002, 05:59 PM
Spast!

I'll PM you my private e-mail address. Would you mind sending the error along, too? :)

EDIT: Hmm, my GB.com e-mail address seems to be working fine... Maybe you could CC the model to it as well. Eets@GalacticBattles.com