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kamiclone
05-28-2002, 12:15 AM
I have always been wondering how does the word Darth get into a name? You see all jedi have names and when they became a sith lord they always change their name. For example
Anakin Skywalker = Darth Vader
You see it changes. What does Darth really mean and why do they change it to that. Also...
Count Dooku = Darth Tyranus
Chancellor Palpatine = Darth Sidious
Now if only we knew what Darth Maul's first name was.....

Joner
05-28-2002, 12:39 AM
I think Darth is like a sith title. You choose a name (a new name like Vader, Sidious or Maul) and put Darth in front of it. It is just like that: you become a sith, your name will begin with Darth. Your real name doesn't count much anymore since your a sith then!

Darth Black1ce
05-28-2002, 12:42 AM
Yes.

kamiclone
05-28-2002, 12:57 AM
ya ok thats reasonible but how do you choose a name? Is there an equation or do you just choose one for yourself?

hyrit
05-28-2002, 01:25 AM
Well, I heard something once...if anyone actually knows what they're talking about correct me if I'm wrong, please. :D

I was told that Darth Vader was supposed to mean Dark Father, and was a bit of foreshadowing as to who he was. Of course, this was told to me by my high school English teacher years ago. The same guy was also known as being a bit of a booze hound too, so who knows where he "heard" it from...

Homosexual Ewok
05-28-2002, 01:40 AM
Originally posted by hyrit
Well, I heard something once...if anyone actually knows what they're talking about correct me if I'm wrong, please. :D

I was told that Darth Vader was supposed to mean Dark Father, and was a bit of foreshadowing as to who he was. Of course, this was told to me by my high school English teacher years ago. The same guy was also known as being a bit of a booze hound too, so who knows where he "heard" it from...

Lucas said that himself, it was in the A&E biography or that Magic of Myth special thingy on PBS.

Joner
05-28-2002, 02:34 AM
Vader means father in dutch, i think. For them it was not such a big surprise back in the days when ESB came out.

hyrit
05-28-2002, 05:20 AM
Well, they changed the pronunciation of it... Vader is supposed to sound a lot like father. The a is supposed to be short, like in father. If you try to say father with a long a, it sounds like Vader. Try it out. Loudly. In the middle of the night. It's a gas. :D

BCanr2d2
05-28-2002, 01:19 PM
I think the Darth piece was also pinched from the Dutch as well, I think it is meant to be mean Dark. So it is quite appropriate for the Sith to use the title of Darth.

Murdoch
05-28-2002, 03:38 PM
So what your saying is that the sith are coming out of Amsterdam?

Blobbafett
05-28-2002, 03:45 PM
never mind if the sith are coming out of Amsterdam.

are they bringing any gifts with them? ;)

Darth Black1ce
05-28-2002, 04:12 PM
dar(dark)+th(sith)=darth

acdcfanbill
05-29-2002, 04:21 PM
Yea so, its legal to have it, its legal to sell it, and it legal to carry it, but that dont matter cause... get this, if they cops stop you.. its illegal for them to search you for it...

thats it man, im going, im going...


;):D:p

Darth Webster
05-29-2002, 04:35 PM
If the sith were to hang out in Amsterdamn, I don't think they'd be quite so damn cranky!

techsurfer
05-29-2002, 05:02 PM
Darth is like a Sith title - it means Dark Lord of the Sith! I guess they change their names to put away their past - forget the 'nice' people they used to be (civilian or Jedi if you're talking about the Lost Twenty from the Jedi Order ). The names I think are also for effect - come on Maul, Sidious, Tyrannus - they all have evil roots when extracting from the english/latin. Vader seems to be the odd one out - guess Lucas hadn't thought about that but it sounds pretty cool anyway!

mima kake
05-29-2002, 05:05 PM
well your are all welcome in amsterdam.

And Darth is not a dutch word

we use it only as in darth, like the british bear drinking arrow throwing against a soft round board game thing in bups.:o

Mobius47
05-29-2002, 05:23 PM
"darth" is similar to "master" a.k.a. master yoda
or in a simpler comparison, "darth" maul is like "Mr." Rodgers
(though the two comparisons are exact opposites it is comparing the title)
and vader, maul and sidious are nicknames
like soldiers have nicknames like "crusher" or "destroyer"
so, i have ended the discusion by providing an answer to the topic question
your welcome and goodbye;)

Mobius47
05-29-2002, 05:29 PM
btw, darth vader = the dark evader, as in he evades the light side seeking darkness

it sure is nice being a genius, i get to help you poor, stupid lost souls who are looking for answers

Jedi_Monk
05-30-2002, 01:41 AM
Darth Maul's true name is Khamir Sarin.

The Sith is a Dark Side cult of two; calling them "Darth" is like people from a cult calling each other "Brother"...

Stealth_Shot
05-30-2002, 03:21 AM
Originally posted by Mobius47
btw, darth vader = the dark evader, as in he evades the light side seeking darkness

it sure is nice being a genius, i get to help you poor, stupid lost souls who are looking for answers




vader means father that is why it was picked

techsurfer
05-31-2002, 05:47 PM
The sith is only a cult of two since they were all too greedy and destroyed each other. Then Darth Bane,the only Sith survivor, decided that the cult could only continue with two members - a master and an apprentice and this is how the Sith continues on for centuries without the Jedi knowing about them - that is until TPM!

iguelmay
06-01-2002, 01:00 AM
question: how many posts do i need before i am no longer bantha fodder? and what do i get after that?

striderx2048
06-01-2002, 02:17 AM
50 keep posting

Absath
06-01-2002, 05:03 AM
tho i dont think Darth is a mandatory title for the sith. It seems like it may have only come into effect after the Jedi wiped out the Sith order, because I never read about it prior. Like Exar Kun for instance. Back when there were a whole slew of Sith running around, they didnt use the title. After they were nearly exterminated, and their numbers dwindled to 2 at a time, i believe they began using the title 'Darth'


-Abs

Kurgan
06-01-2002, 05:40 AM
Vader is also close to Vater, which is Father in German (pronounced much like water). He's your fairy DarkFather, Luke!

He's the guy that brings you stuff when you leave your lightsaber under you pillow..