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V!G
05-31-2002, 05:57 PM
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I have been working on this model for a while. Some of you will remeber the thread I posted before asking if it would be OK to post models from outside the starWars Universe.... Anyway... This is what I consider to be a finished mesh. I plan to start skinning it soon and would like to know what chapter[s] you guys would like to see?

These are the chapters I think would be best suited for JO. If you have any futher suggestions please post them. I plan to make more than one skin as time goes on but the first one is what will be released with the model I guess.
Space Wolves (http://www.gamesworkshop.com/40kuniverse/warhammer40k/spacemarines/astartes/spacewolves/default.htm)
Dark Angles (http://www.gamesworkshop.com/40kuniverse/warhammer40k/spacemarines/astartes/darkangels/default.htm)
Imperial Fits (http://www.gamesworkshop.com/40kuniverse/warhammer40k/spacemarines/astartes/imperialfists/default.htm)
Blood Angles (http://www.gamesworkshop.com/40kuniverse/warhammer40k/spacemarines/astartes/bloodangels/default.htm)
Ultra Marines (http://www.gamesworkshop.com/40kuniverse/warhammer40k/spacemarines/astartes/ultramarines/default.htm)

*Note this model being completed for MP hinges on the fact that I will be able to do custom animations. If the SDK comes out and we can't do animations then I it will be a static model you will be able to put into maps that are made :( but even that is flexable...

Angry Sandwich
05-31-2002, 06:13 PM
Lets hope someone makes a 40K Eldar Model too. It would be great to replace some models in the SP game with 40K Eldars and 40K Marines. :D

Nice job on that model, so far. :)

Luuke
05-31-2002, 06:29 PM
first of all: the model looks really great. i am a space marine player, i mean at warhammer 40k tabletop. and the ultramarines are my absolutely favourite chapter. so of course do them first. but soon or later i would like to see all of these you mentioned, maybe you even want to do the "Legion of the damned" or the "Black templars".
just keep it up, this could be a really great mod. and so i hope, you can do custom animations soon.

Garik Loran
05-31-2002, 06:48 PM
I LIKE THE BLACK LEGION WITH ABADDON! and maybe some special characters like Horus, the Emperor and so on.
You see, there is so much possible.

ErionD
05-31-2002, 07:01 PM
The model sort of looks a bit more cartoony than a Space Marine.
But thats not saying its bad cause it truly rocks!
Great job!
Personally i like the Space Wolves and maybe DA and UM/BA next

V!G
06-02-2002, 06:50 PM
I start skinning tomorrow and just wanted to make sure that everyone that wants to vote does :)

iTeM
06-02-2002, 07:02 PM
I think a Dark Angel with their robe-thingy would look cool!

otherwise, go for an Ultra-Moron.

somebody really should do a howling banshee, or Maugan Ra (hm, perhaps not... his reaper might be hard to do). Asurmen would kick ass!

Lord -=[FBF]=-
06-02-2002, 07:04 PM
about the animations: cant you just bind it to the current ones? things like storm troopers are also quite armoured so there should be some anims u can use somewhere.
can we use this model in our upcoming 40k tc plz? if you get it working, that is. after all, why make a new one if theres such a good one out already? also, are you doing a version with a helmet? that would also be kool, and helpful for our mod if u are willing to let us use it!

V!G
06-02-2002, 09:14 PM
I am trying to get the mesh attached to the skeleton as I write this. He has a basic texture on him that is all blue. This way if I have to change the mesh I won't have to re-skin him. When I see how it looks with the default animations I will know if I can tweak the model to fit. I think I will try to make him fit becuase it doesn't look like there is any way of doing custom animations. He is bulkier (<--- is that even a word?) than any model even the storm troopers :( But I guess I will know if it works soon enough.

About using him in the 40k TC: When I release him he will have a readme.txt that will need to be included with the model. He can be used for whatever anyone wants as long as the read me is with the model :)

V!G

Vesentac
06-02-2002, 10:28 PM
Blood angels and terminator armor!!

BradFu
06-02-2002, 11:13 PM
They're not on the list, but I vote for the Black Templars :D I really hope you succeed in this, I know some people that would definitely be interested in playing a JKII based 40k game

BradFu!

Sintax
06-03-2002, 12:23 AM
The mesh is much better than it was in the previous post. I would think it would be use in mplayer cause it will get deformed (im sure) but if you cant get him in mplayer put im in single.

Give him the insignias of a psycher and it'l explain force powers :)
speed=quickening
and ect

chaplain would be nice

I say Darkangels but dont add robes as it is impossible to animate them properly and have it look realistic, unless you have them static like boba fett cloak :(

Lord -=[FBF]=-
06-03-2002, 03:52 PM
thanks V!G, that'll save us a lot of work. and yes, there is such a word as bulkier. as for custom animations, can they be done my making anim frames in 3dsmax and then exporting all the frames instead of one? when used with the xsi exporter, i mean. might this work? just a thought.

bradfu: although this 40K TC im working on with a few mates is going to start off as player model/weapons etc in the first release, we're planning to do a massive sp storyline eventually. if u'd be interested in helping out at some point (and god knows we need all the help we can get - 20+ levels and 50+ models planned, plus cutscenes, and mayB some new multiplayer features), drop me a line at mat_howe@hotmail.com

Steg
06-04-2002, 05:59 PM
wot FBF has failed 2 realise is the the 3 of us with a school life to balance has no time 2 do 20+ levels and 50+ models WHEN NONE OF US CAN MAP OR ANAIMATE to any level of decency....
wot do u plan 2 do now howe?

Steg

Lord -=[FBF]=-
06-04-2002, 06:02 PM
RECRUIT(sp?)!!!!!! :D :D :D
anyone wanna help?

Steg
06-04-2002, 06:42 PM
ok suits me
wot do we need? MANPOWER!!!
wot have we got? 3 incompitant (yes that includes me) gamers who want 2 do a big time mod
we have over 20 maps 2 do along with weapon models and anamations, marines, chaos marines and demons and someother things 2 and item 2 do
so far we have a mostly finished 1 kilapoly bolter (by me) and apartenly matt is doing a HUD
so any1 who can map, model, skin, anamate and just about nething else would b helpful
steg55@hotmail.com mat_howe@hotmail.com rob_wat_@hotmail.com http://www.btinternet.com/~howe_alison/brothers/

Steg

iTeM
06-04-2002, 06:57 PM
When I read the reply regarding black templars, it reminded me that GW released a limited edition "Emperor's Champion" model (I don't mean the one you can buy on their website). I can't seem to find a pic of it but that model was BAD-ASS!

someone really should make that guy...

V!G
06-05-2002, 01:17 AM
Just a quick update for those that are interested...
[pictures removed from server]

OK you can continue to vote if you want but the first chapter is set. Ultramarines, love or leave em they are the first chapter by popular demand. I am still getting everything tagged, and weighted. Wieghting, what a pain in the arse that is... but it is going along.

I had to push a few verts around to get him to fit on the root.xsi skeleton :( so he lost a little of his proud stance :( But since I can't do animations it will have to do.

I have come down with a cold and stayed home from work today. It's kinda good I caught the cold, becuase it gave me time to get ahead on the Space Marine. But I didn't get much rest and don't feel that much better. So I might have to stay home tomorrow... but this time really rest and not dink around on the computer (in the drafty part of the house)

well just thought I would update so you know I am still alive and workin :)

Oh yeah one more question since you guys are so great at giving feedback :) Should I put in battle damage or take it out? Marines are kinda prim and proper about thier armor and from what I have read they don't let it stay scratched for long?

V!G

sXepticon
06-05-2002, 10:03 AM
make 2 versions


1) with HELMET and Damage the normal marine ;)

2)without helmet no Damage the commander couse the "commanders" often stay behind the lines right? lol i would do if i were a Comm. :D

looks really good by now ! keep it going and hope you get healthy angain m8


Cya Sxep


BTW: are you making a Helmet ? would be cooler for my part ;)



PS(lol): When your further in progress could you post a Pix of the complet model? not only the shoulder, when you get more done ofcourse!

iTeM
06-05-2002, 10:09 AM
I really think Space Marine Commanders tend to stay "in battle". And by that i mean IN the center of combat, generally just kicking ass.

At least that's what they do in 40k...

Steg
06-05-2002, 04:43 PM
Commanders r normally smack bang (literaly) in the middle of the combat
mine is confronted by more heavy weapons than i can count and still stares them down and takes out manytime his own value in troops and vechials
nice job BTW

Steg

Artic Blade
06-05-2002, 05:49 PM
thats a sweet model dude! the only thing i see is hes a little too big for the guns.

my suggestion to fix this is make bigger guns! that would be awesome! a guy with that cool of armor needs an equal cool (i.e. BIG) gun!

SingledOut
06-05-2002, 07:08 PM
this model is great! i love warhammer 40k and its nice to see some non starwars models.

iTeM
06-05-2002, 07:08 PM
LASCANNON!

V!G
06-06-2002, 03:44 PM
:Skinning Update:
Someone asked for screen shots of the full model now that it fits the jk2 skeleton. I wanted to wait until I had more skinned before eating up everyones bandwidth with screens :P

So far I have him Segmented, Cap'ed & Tagged. I still have joint weighting and the rest of the skin to do... but it's coming along. I manged to drop the poly count down to 2239. This will give me a few more polys when I make a helmet'ed version later on :) anywho enough chatter here is the screen...

[pictures removed from server]

V!G

BTW the idea to make 40K weapon replacements for all the jedi knight2 weapon models, is a really good one! Too bad I have my hands full right now with this model :(

Lord -=[FBF]=-
06-06-2002, 06:31 PM
VERY nice!
good work so far!

ddragon64
06-06-2002, 08:52 PM
"hummm... thats one doomed space marine." DN

looks pretty good.

dragon :ben:

V!G
06-08-2002, 02:59 AM
The skinning continues....

i did alittle extra work on the head and arms. I just unwrapped the torso, hips, and legs. I won't be able to work on the model until monday so I figured I should post some progress? All the white lines are just place holders until I get the rest of the skin done.

<Pictures have been removed from the server, ask vig for them if you really want them :) >

I figured I should ask what kind of symbol you guys would like to see in the center of the chest. Since it varries from armor type.

1) Standard Imperial symbol, the falcon/raven/chicken thing head
2) Standard Imperial wings with a jewl in the center
3) Standard Imperinal wings with a skull in the center

I also think the wings should be yellow or gold. But I have seen white chest wings on Ultra Marines before.

V!G

Luuke
06-08-2002, 07:51 AM
make it gold. i always hated the white symbol on the chest some people used for their veterans.

and i would like the: Standard Imperial symbol, the falcon/raven/chicken thing head
maybe the Standard Imperinal wings with a skull in the center,
but i'd prefer the first one!

V!G
06-10-2002, 08:21 PM
http://bg40kmod.clanpages.com/vig_junk/screen.jpg
Just a little skin update. I went with the gold wings :)

V!G

Luuke
06-11-2002, 05:57 AM
way to go, man!! looking very nice!

petezilla
06-11-2002, 06:26 AM
he looks fantastic way to go.
he's very broad as he should be, but will this still remain so after you've put him in the game?
keep up the good work.

Lord -=[FBF]=-
06-11-2002, 12:50 PM
NICE!!! how long until this is released? also, are u intending to do a version with a helmet? that would be ace.

Steg
06-11-2002, 01:22 PM
very very nice!!!
r u planning to make the model taller than all the others (cus marines r like 8feet tall.....)
cus if u do will u b able 2 use the standard skeleton on it?
gr8 job
i can wait to use it
imagine a marine with a lightsaber! KOOL!

Steg

V!G
06-11-2002, 01:24 PM
I think I might have chest/arm clipping issues when I get him ingame but he fits the skeleton and is only few points bigger than the storm trooper model. The render kind of distorts things :( makes his chest look bigger than it really is.

I am talking this week off to write a milkshape/ saber tutorial. Then i will get back and finish the skin /weighting. After that it should not be long until he is in game.

Just have the legs and back pack to skin.

V!G

Steg
06-11-2002, 01:28 PM
nice!
very nice!
hope u fix the clipping probs!
we wait in suspence!
Steg

sXepticon
06-11-2002, 03:37 PM
WOW just sweet work!

hope we can DL it soon! btw you could make a ctf version of him


Blue >> Ultram.
Default >> SpaceWolves ?
Red >> Blood Angels ( just make a drip on his chestarmor )

you could give them a different hair cut or color ..what ever

looking forward!

V!G
06-14-2002, 02:42 PM
As I was writting the milkshape light saber making tutorial, it hit me the space marine would not have a wimpy standard issue jedi saber...oh no... he would have a thick burley saber that would do some damage even with the blade in. It's not skinned yet but that is the basic color scheme applied to several groups.

When I release this space Marine he will have his own saber. Any helpful critiques would be great. Remember this is not a jedi saber it's a saber for a Space Marine, they have a FLARE for the big and exagerated ;)



http://bg40kmod.clanpages.com/vig_junk/spacemarinesaber_unskinned.jpg

V!G

Lord -=[FBF]=-
06-16-2002, 11:31 PM
niiiiiiiiiiiiiice.........
does that mean ur model is done, skinned and working? or are u just taking a break from the big guy?
i think that u've captured a very space-mariney feel with that saber hilt, cant wait!

V!G
06-22-2002, 08:08 AM
Well he is not done yet... the skinning work continues. I should have the skin wrapped up next week. for now here is what the skin looks like right now. I took a break from working on the Marine to do a saber tutorial (which is not finished yet :( ) I have taken a break from my break to get some skinning work done :D

http://bg40kmod.clanpages.com/vig_junk/screen_01.jpg

V!G

Jango_Fett91
06-22-2002, 08:43 AM
I vote for Chaos Space Marine or Dark Eldar.:)

V!G
07-17-2002, 07:02 AM
Vig takes a deep breath and blows the dust off his ol' Space Marine.

After much fustration and trying to get my space marine into JK2 I gave up :( Then a few days ago I dusted it off and started making different skins for him. As well as a different head. It is with new determination and new found hope that I think I will give it one more try :D


http://bg40kmod.clanpages.com/vig_junk/Screen_05.jpg


V!G

Sniper Wolf
07-17-2002, 10:07 PM
Thats awesome man, I would like to see some Dark Elders. Maybe the Space Wolves also.

V!G
07-18-2002, 02:21 AM
http://bg40kmod.clanpages.com/vig_junk/chapters.jpg

I think I have done enough skins now it's time to go back to the hard stuff and get this model ingame :(

wish me luck...

Now where did I put SpaceMonkey's Tutorial? :D