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SPY_jmr1
06-01-2002, 05:27 AM
ok first off, if this doesnt make any sence, its becouse right now its 1AM, I have a headache, and i am not wareing my glasses;)

ok the reason for this post is a idea i had when laying in bed, and I have to wite it down before I forget it 100%.

it comes from the mod for JK1 "SBX" wich was trying to give jk1 all onf the moves (that were known then ) in jkii before it was released(jkii) it also took moves from ep1 of SW(around 1999ish time) one of the moves was the now legendary BACKSTAB tm ;)

it was the very same move that is found in jkii, but with one diffirence: the control system.

yes thats right the control system, was like night and day from SBX to jkii. in jkii we have the dude running backwords looking at the floor to see behind him, hoping to runin to you and get a one hit kill.

the reason for this is that in jkii the BS will only fire off if the stabie is in range.

in SBX the BS was done by(might be wrong, havent played in a while) pressing "back" "fire1" in that order but at a walk you guy would do a BS at will, but haveing to walk to do it killed the spaming of it(was also quite powerful)

i would like to see a return of SBX style controls into jkii. the pristion was insane, to say the least:Dany move had a combo of controls needed to do it.

now I am not saying that theres anything wrong with the jkii style, but it seems that something like this would only help, not hurt, no?
if you note the blue stance lunge is like this(crouch+fwd+fire) so why not backstab?


SPY

ps: this is only intended to adress the BS by its self, pull+BS is a whole nother thread ;)

comments welcome, good or bad(want more good then bad, but ya gotta roll with the punchs eh?) but no oneliners flames i.e. "j00 SuxXorZ!!211!!!!1 unquote

still SPY

Sutek
06-01-2002, 01:12 PM
So you're suggesting, in a nutshell that the backstab/swing moves be changed from the conditional activation to a deliberate one, activated by pressing walk+back+attack?

Sounds like a plan. It would be awkward to get used to, though, but what fundamental changes to moves that become instinctive aren't. I'm not sure it would stop the spam, but it might slow it for a while.

Go to it my son, I think it's a worthy idea (perhaps you should email it to Raven as an alternative to "Reduce the damage, Whaa!"?

EZ|Lestat
06-01-2002, 01:25 PM
All that means is that people can bind it and spam the move ALL the time, without even turning around! :mad:

Sutek
06-01-2002, 01:37 PM
Heh, but have you ever fought them? They're so funny I die sometimes because I'm trying hard not to laugh I forget to fight.

I was fighting one the other night, made me laugh so hard I nearly fell off my chair.

He looked at me, turned round so his butt was facing me, and charged backwards. We all know what that's like no?
So I sidestep him, didn't hit him or anything, just stepped out of the way (walked in fact). He shot past and stopped several feet back from where I was. He then looked up, and get this was the bit that made me laugh so hard:

He looked around, lost and confused, because in the rush of running backwards, he hadn't been keeping track of where I was.

Then he started again. Missed as before, and repeated. Oh how I did laugh.

BlackDove
06-01-2002, 01:39 PM
Someone tell me what the point of the thread is?

Sutek
06-01-2002, 01:46 PM
It was a little difficult to decipher at first, butI'm getting quite good at reading posts which haven't heard of punctuation, spelling or the English language.

I think I clarified it in my reply to the first post. But I'll reprise. He was suggesting a MOD which modifies the execution of the backstab/swing move into holding walk+back+attack instead.

This is on the understanding that it would stop people running backwards trying to backstab. I suspect it would just mean they hit "walk" when they strike an object.

BlackDove
06-01-2002, 02:23 PM
And we already know that a mod like that will be let out in a given time, probably preventing running backwards when holding a lightsabre. So if there wasn't anything else to this thread, then it's a piece of junk/garbage/****/crap etc.

rionikuanjiru
06-01-2002, 02:56 PM
Then don't read it.
Better yet, don't waste your precious time posting in it and ecouraging the "garbage"

I, for one, think the idea of more "button sequence" moves is nice.
There are so many cool other saber moves that could be done in a mod with button sequence activation.

SPY_jmr1
06-01-2002, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by Sutek
It was a little difficult to decipher at first, butI'm getting quite good at reading posts which haven't heard of punctuation, spelling or the English language.

I think I clarified it in my reply to the first post. But I'll reprise. He was suggesting a MOD which modifies the execution of the backstab/swing move into holding walk+back+attack instead.

This is on the understanding that it would stop people running backwards trying to backstab. I suspect it would just mean they hit "walk" when they strike an object.

after reading over my post, it is worded a bit strange, but there was a disclamer in the first line. I would think you would notice it, but if you want it in bold letters, I will comply;)

kal-el where do you get off desiding what is and is not "a piece of junk/garbage/****/crap etc."? who made you king of the fourms
and did not tell me? seems that YOU are the poster of garbage-and why am I replying to this POS?:rolleyes:

this sums it up for me Then don't read it.
Better yet, don't waste your precious time posting in it and ecouraging the "garbage"

thx for the comment rionikuanjiru(nice name btw;))

[JHQ]Inty
07-04-2002, 02:54 PM
I think it'd be cool. if someone does it to you, you can do the same with ease.

Pedantic
07-04-2002, 03:01 PM
I think that all the backslashes should be changed to backstabs and that backstab should be able to be done at will, not when someone is behind. That way it takes a little more timing and "skill" to get a kill using it. :)