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StormHammer
03-01-2000, 01:10 PM
I don't know about you, but I'm tired of being treated like a mushroom - sitting in the dark and being fed on b******t.

I think Lucasarts should develop Dark Forces III as a sequel to JK, and continue this important thread of the Star Wars Universe.

If you agree with me, add your post to this one. Maybe we can make a difference.

May the Force be with US!

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Darth Kurgan
03-01-2000, 11:33 PM
Yeah, "Right on!" and stuff. I certify that I, Kurgan, want there to be a proper sequel to Jedi Knight someday.

(waves flag, stomps feet, and cheers)

Kurgan

LDB_Leeman
03-02-2000, 11:45 AM
What do we want? DF3!!!
When do we want it? NOW!!!! (or whenever Lucasarts can get it done - either will be fine thankyouverymuch... http://www.jediknight.net/mboard/biggrin.gif)



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Dragon
03-02-2000, 11:42 PM
Sounds great!!

solo_anakin
03-03-2000, 11:34 AM
DF3, sounds great to me!

StormHammer
03-07-2000, 09:45 PM
Any more people want to add their posts? I just think this issue is reeeaaalllly important, and as LEC has not announced any plans to make DF 3, I think they need some prompting. http://www.jediknight.net/mboard/smile.gif

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Conor
03-08-2000, 02:52 AM
I don't think LEC ever allows themselves to be prompted, but here I am to show my support anyway. Heck, how could I not show support for a sequel to my two of my favorite games? http://www.jediknight.net/mboard/smile.gif

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WeedSmoker
03-08-2000, 05:53 AM
You have my 2 bits.

; L~

"the grass is always greener"

madcownr
03-09-2000, 12:23 AM
after 3 days of arduous gaming to finally conquer mysteries of the sith
i agree that a sequel to dark forces would be nice
in fact better than nice
as long as its as much fun as dark forces2 :jedi knight was

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Qpan
03-09-2000, 08:22 PM
I want my DF3 !!!!!
I want my DF3!!!!!
I want my DF3!!!!!
I want my DF3!!!!!
I want my DF3!!!!!
I want my DF3!!!!!
I want my DF3!!!!!
I want my DF3!!!!!
I want my DF3!!!!!

boy this slogan sound familar. http://www.jediknight.net/mboard/smile.gif

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The_Gamesta
03-13-2000, 12:06 AM
I want DF3!......to bad I will not be abele to run it when it come out it is does...well not good.

Xylos
03-13-2000, 04:03 AM
Yeah baby!

Gimme DF3!

It can only get better!

JaledDur
03-13-2000, 04:28 PM
DF3..yyeeess

jimyd
03-15-2000, 03:46 AM
Who's tired of anything with Episode I attached to it? LucasArts needs to get back on track with a killer sequel to one of the best FPS ever made - JediKnight! Here is my vote for LucasArts to regain the Force and develop a long overdue follow-up to JK.

LDB_Leeman
03-15-2000, 04:52 PM
Hell yeah I'm fed up with cheap Ep1 cash-ins - The Game of the Film was nothing special, the Racer stank of "cash-in", as well as Gungan Frontier, Pit Droids and any other frikkin cash in you care to mention - it's no wonder the critics gave TPM such a bad review - it was over-hyped. People were left expecting too much after seeing all the damn tie-ins - A dancing Jar Jar!?! Waste of time...

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Conor
03-15-2000, 06:41 PM
Funnily enough, all the hype convinced me Ep1 wouldn't be all that good, but I actually concluded it was much better than I thought it would be. I loved it.

Of course, I don't look to sci-fi movies to provide much.

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kalan1
03-15-2000, 10:33 PM
I would not hesitate to get DF3, i think DF2 was and still is one of the best 1st/3rd person multiplayer games about, because of the different tactice that you have to employ

solo_anakin
03-16-2000, 11:33 AM
I hear ya! I'm sick and tired of Ep1 games, but at least there is FC coming out next week.

LDB_modeski
03-19-2000, 07:00 AM
Dark Forces 3 is most definetely needed. It's been well over 3 years since the DF2 came out, and we're hungry for more. Most of the ep1 tie-ins have been incredibly poor, the Phantom Menace being an excellent illustration of how to disappoint all but the kids who think that ep1 *is* Star Wars.

We've seen before the quality of game that Lucasarts can produce, especially the DF series. Please, on behalf of all your loyal fans - Lucasarts: bring out DF3!

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Kaiser
03-20-2000, 05:26 AM
WHAT DO WE WANT? SERVER SIDE GAMES!

Vagabond
03-20-2000, 03:29 PM
Agreed!

Up with DF3!!!

Down with OB1!!!


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Fetch
03-20-2000, 08:04 PM
I'm new here, but I'd really like to see a Dark Forces III some time (hopefully in the near future).

Kipple Master
03-20-2000, 09:22 PM
Dark Forces 3, Yes Lucas Arts should make a Dark Forces 3. Forget Episode 1 stuff.

We want Dark Forces 3!!!!!

jedimathias
03-20-2000, 11:42 PM
Count me in! I would also like to see more of our good old friend Kyle Katarn. :-)

Darth_Simpson
03-21-2000, 12:05 PM
Go create Dark Forces III NOW Lucasarts

Fett1177
03-23-2000, 02:45 AM
Definately-
I would love some new characters. Maybe a badass child jedi that uses the light side. Someone maybe like Lowbacca, Jacen Jacinda or Anikan Solo...

solo_anakin
03-23-2000, 12:07 PM
DF3!!! Maybe they will start that after
they finish OB1, which looks to be a good game, right now at least.

Grand Moff Mofo
03-23-2000, 08:03 PM
If you want DFIII give me a Hell Yeah

HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!

JK_Bluesaber
03-24-2000, 03:43 AM
Sorry to crash your party but, over at RogueSquadron.net we formed a petition fro LEC to make an addon, or at least give us the right to edit it. We got over 150 people ti sign it! BUT, no one listened to us. Not Big Ape or LEC....I will just tell you, ahem "It's a waste of your time, LEC is as stubborn as a mule in mud."

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StormHammer
03-24-2000, 04:15 AM
That's sad to hear, JK_Bluesaber, but there's no harm in trying again. Why not ask those 150 posters to post again on this petition - and maybe they can all each ask a friend, who can ask a friend, etc. Let's add another zero to that 150... http://www.jediknight.net/mboard/wink.gif

The Force will be with us...always.

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early24
04-04-2000, 11:45 PM
Yeah, you got my vote! But, I believe in LEC's un-budgeable stubbornness, and I also saw them describe Force Commander as "the final title set during or near the classic trilogy". I forgot where I saw this, but it seems as though we're stuck with Episode I. On the bright side, Obi-Wan will probably cash in on an updated version of JK's already stellar 3D engine, and gameplay promises to be much more strategically demanding (anyone here play Thief?). Yes, TPM and Racer sucked big time, but LEC has already spent more time with Obi-Wan than they did with both of those throw-aways (and all the other tie-in crap) put together.

TerrorMaroon
04-13-2000, 07:56 PM
I assume none of you have seen the latest PC Gamer magazine?

Kylilin
04-13-2000, 08:05 PM
Amen brother, Amen


DF3 is the way to be

Ozzy
04-14-2000, 12:25 PM
I want DF 3 as well.
enough Episode 1
please, LEC?

"Why you stuck-up, half-witted, scruffy looking NERF HERDER!" -Princess Leia

"Hey, who's scruffy lookin'?" -Han Solo

Sean Ngiam
04-15-2000, 08:48 AM
Um...I might be mistaken but isn't Obi-Wan Dark Forces 3?

Hile Tr0y
04-25-2000, 08:51 PM
You're very mistaken, Sean. The DF series follows the adventures of Kyle Katarn, and they are set sometime during and after SW: TESB. Obi-Wan is long dead when the first DF starts.
I want my DF3! Hell yeah!
Just a cheer,
Hile Tr0y

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LDB_Leeman
04-27-2000, 05:55 AM
However, a lot of people are touting Obi-Wan to be DFIII - either they're confused, or they've heard different.
Personally, I hope it's the former, and they just think it's DFIII because it's another FPS.
Surely Lucasarts have had enough of EP1 games by now?! (how many is this, once Obi-Wan's done? 6? There's the TPM Game, Ep1 Racer, Pit Droids, Gungan Frontier, Jedi Power Battles, and now Ob1)
More from the orignal saga and beyond please Lucasarts...

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Tycho_Celchu
04-27-2000, 09:47 AM
Well, I'm still perfectly happy w/ JK, so I don't really feel the need for DFIII, but I'll sign anyway.


We want DF3!

Krownis
05-02-2000, 04:50 PM
Yes, I've been waiting for DFIII since 97. Honestly, I wasn't 100% satisfied with Mysteries (I don't mean to start a war). It's just that I wanted to see more FMV scenes - that made the game really, really cool.

And as for Obi-wan being DFIII, I heard and read the same thing sometime back. Probably at the Obi-wan site. That's what got me interested in it - maybe being the same format, still Jedi is my favorite game to play on the net 3 years running. If a game is this powerful for so many people, why LucasArts refuses to make another addition is beyond me. The money they'd rake in would be astounding. But of course, I still can't get past the fact that Lucas won't release the movies on DVD either. Again, he'd make a killing in the market. But that's probably why he's all the way up there and I'm all the way down here.

LDB_Leeman
05-03-2000, 04:18 PM
I wasn't that impressed with MotS either - it all felt too tacked on - and the impersonator for Kyle was nothing like the original actor.
And then there was no mention of Qu-Rahn or Jan...
Where did they dissapear to?

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Kipple Master
05-04-2000, 10:55 PM
Someone wanted to know why the Star Wars movies haven't been released on DVD. The official word from Rick McCallum (producer Ep1) is that George Lucas wants to do something "special" for the DVD release of ALL the movies. At present he is busy with Episode 2. My source for this info, www.starwars.com, (http://www.starwars.com,) in the Ask The Lucasfilm Jedi Council section (You have to be registered to ask questions).

I wish they'd hurry up and make DF3!!!!!

Xyst
05-05-2000, 11:56 PM
I want Dark Forces 3!!!!Play it on the Zone TOO!!!

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Das Caroon
05-07-2000, 05:25 AM
I down for Jedi Knight 3. Classic Star Wars and the New Repulic StarWars stuff is definitely where its at for me Episode 1 was weak. More Kyle More Mara and Maybe Even the Jedi Twins that would be an interesting idea

Das

Kurgan
05-07-2000, 03:21 PM
Actually, in the first level of Dark Forces 1, you steal the Death Star plans, so it's actually taking place BEFORE, DURING, and AFTER, the Star Wars movie trilogy (Episodes IV-VI).

Dark Forces II: JK takes places some years after ROTJ (Ep. VI), and MOTS takes place about 5-7 years after that.

Kurgan

DM_Meclamar
05-21-2000, 07:50 PM
I want Dark Forces 3!!!

I also want the 4 Star Wars Movies on DVD!!!!

P h o e n i x
05-21-2000, 08:03 PM
he he, DF3 and DVD, those rhyme. Got my vote for df3

obi
05-22-2000, 12:32 AM
hey guys,i used to work at lucasarts.i quit around the premere of masters of teras kasi.but i tell ya,dark forces 3 sounds real good.i think they should put where kyle gets mara in dark forces 3.that would be neat.

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The Force
05-26-2000, 09:00 AM
I think DF3 should start with a choice.
In both you play as Kyle, but you get to choose wether you play on the light side or the darkside. That would be cool.
Or before you start the game, you could be able to customize your weapons

The Force
05-26-2000, 01:46 PM
Obi-wan is dead. Long live DF3
Obi-wan is dead. Long live DF3
Obi-wan is dead. Long live DF3
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Kurgan
05-26-2000, 05:31 PM
obi-wan13, you "used to work for Lucasarts"?

What was your division?!

Kurgan

obi
05-29-2000, 09:26 PM
well,i was nothing really.i was just a game tester.what i did was just play the game before the product came out and tested it.i decided whether to edit it or go ahead and relese it.

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Kurgan
05-30-2000, 12:45 AM
Ah, so you were employed as a beta tester.

How much did they pay you?

Kurgan

obi
05-30-2000, 06:29 PM
not much.about 8 dollars an hour.

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P h o e n i x
05-30-2000, 10:30 PM
heck, that is much better than what I'm making now...$0 an hour!

Jedi-Qui-Gon
06-04-2000, 08:20 PM
I'm pretty sure Obi-Wan is the sequal to Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2, but i'm sure they will still make another one that follows the path of Kyle Katarn.

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Kurgan
06-05-2000, 12:07 AM
That sounds about right. I don't know a whole lot about it. I once receieved an offer to become a beta tester (years and years ago) but never got a response back. Guess they didn't need my help! But it offered about $9 an hour.

ObiWan is not a sequel to any of the Dark Forces games. It is a PREQUEL to the DarkForces series (as LEC has said). It is billed as the "NEXT JEDI GAME" and "in the TRADITION of Dark Forces and Jedi Knight."
It's not a true sequel and has nothing to do at all story or character wise to the other games (the only similarity being some of the gameplay and the fact that it takes place in the SW universe).

Kurgan

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The-Rogue-Jedi
06-06-2000, 05:27 AM
Hi guys. I'm new here. Anyway I totally agree on a true sequel to Jedi Knight. One that may equal or go beyond what Jedi Knight was for me.

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Jedi-Qui-Gon
06-10-2000, 01:19 PM
I hate to argue with you, Kurgan, but i got this off the Lucas Arts site:
"DARK FORCES SERIES RETURNS
In Star Wars: Episode I Obi-Wan, players will control the destiny of one of the galaxy's greatest heroes.
The May issue of PC Gamer, which is beginning to ship this week, provides an extensive look at the continuation of the Dark Forces / Jedi Knight series."

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Dave Maul
06-10-2000, 03:02 PM
I haven't really played JK or MOTS very much (A few levels here and there, and a few multiplayer games 'round a friend's house), but a DF3 would appeal to me greatly. From what I have seen, the series has been getting better, and I for one would like to see what happens to the characters in one of the best games ever.

BJP3E
06-10-2000, 07:08 PM
I would love to see the dark trooper in action again

Kurgan
06-10-2000, 11:53 PM
I hate to break it to you, but ObiWan cannot be called a sequel in any sense of the word, and LEC doesn't either.

They don't call it a sequel. Just a continuation of tradition.

That's like saying that Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine is a "continuation of the beloved Tomb Raider series" and "the successor to the glorious Tomb Raider."

Both of those statements are technically correct, however Indy5 is not a sequel to Tomb Raider, just that the gameplay is very similar and such.

But a sequel? No. Why not?

1) It has nothing to do with any of the characters that appear in any of the Dark Forces games.

2) It takes place long before any of the principle characters were even born.

ObiWan is based on a MOVIE. Kyle Katarn and Jan Ors (and Jerec, Yun, Sariss, Maw, Pic, Gorc, Boc, etc) were original Expanded Universe characters created for the game.

ObiWan is a seperate game. Calling ObiWan a "continuation" of Dark Forces is just a marketing ploy. It's just a fancy way of saying the gameplay is similar.

I'll say it until I'm blue in the face, but that's how it is. Dark Forces 3 would be a sequel. ObiWan is, if anything, a prequel.

Kurgan

Saesee Tom
06-12-2000, 05:56 PM
DF III would be brilliant!
Who, what and where would it take place.
KK or MJ still as the main player(s)?

Kurgan
06-12-2000, 11:46 PM
Well, technically, I really really like the element of "choice" involved in JK.

That is, I like how you can, even when given Kyle Katarn's history, choose to follow good or evil. It's a classic tale of black and white, good guys vs. bad guys.

MOTS forces you to be the good guys and do what the good guys do.

I would have liked it better if, you could choose your destiny, for example, in the end, choose to kill Kyle or to trust that there is good in him and that he will "come back." And have a different ending.. or something else, other than the pre-determined path. But.. that didn't happen.

So this is what I'd like to see, an "alternate universe" game that begins where JK left off, if Kyle had turned to the Dark Side.

Kyle has just become the new Emperor (though he has not crushed all resistence, he has merely claimed the title for himself and captured the Imperial Palace and claimed Jerec's army). Sariss is his second in command.

In the game you will follow the Dark Path and ultimately control Kyle and Sariss. Missions could include wiping out resistance (New Republic, Jedi, traitors within your own ranks, etc). At some point you could also be given a choice, such as whether or not to continue being an Emperor, and continue to fight the remaining rebels, or to give up the throne, in favor of the Light Side (and thus have to sabotage your minions), or as Sariss, to try to usurp the throne from Dark Emperor Kyle.

There's just so many possibilites.

I know everybody wants a game where you control Darth Maul, but I think this idea would play out the other untold chapter in Kyle Katarn's history. The "what if" that MOTS did not address.

Of course it would also be cool to see a "continuing adventures of Kyle Katarn." There's alot they could do with that too. What happens to Jan? I figure she and Kyle hook up. What else would happen? I suppose it could tie in with later Expanded Universe stuff.

I guess I just want to see a "Dark Jedi" game more than anything, and having Kyle as the Emperor would be pretty neat.

It could have a bit of a crossover with MOTS, in that as Emperor Kyle, you realize that your Jedi Training is incomplete, and even though you have all this power with the Valley of the Jedi, you don't fully understand the knowledge needed to CONTROL it. So, you seek out rumors of a hidden Sith Temple on Dromuun Kaas.

Thus, players could revisit (in more detail) some familiar locations from Mysteries of the Sith. I always wondered what happened to Kyle while Mara was seeking him out. Perhaps he had to fight many battles to control the dark powers of the Temple.

I could ramble on and on.. but that's my spin. Dark Forces III would be an even bigger task than ObiWan, but at least ObiWan will help them test the waters and get a better idea of how to make an even better Jedi game.

Kurgan

GoTMaLK
06-28-2000, 05:37 AM
Nice long explanation there. I like it...ooooooh evil!!! Anywayz, this is my 2-cents on this petition thing. Hmmm...i wonder what would happen if you mixed the matrix and jk...i dont know, weird idle thoughts. Ah, whatever.

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What? There's an ON button?!

Lord Malice
06-28-2000, 02:16 PM
True dat y'all! Lucas Arts, bring us Dark Forces III now, or else. I think it would be a kool idea for the game if there were two different campaigns in the beginning. One for when you take the light path in Jedi Knight. And one where you take the Dark Path in Jedi Knight. That would be kool cuz it could be two different stories intertwining eachother. Like what would happen if Kyle were on the Dark Side during the story and a what would happen if Kyle were on the Light Side during the story. Or, you could play as Katarn and then as some Dark Jedi off and on to learn the story from two different perspectives.

What y'all think?

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leads to complete obliteration. I must face my fear. I must let my fear pass over me and through me. And when my fear is gone, I will turn and look back into it's path, and only I will remain. In this very breath we take now, lies the secret that all teachers try to tell us.
Fear....fear is our ally." -Lord Malice