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GidionTheDead
06-09-2002, 09:42 PM
Ok, just a short Reborn question.

The game tells us that the experiments with the crystals on Kejim weren't successful and that the first Reborn were created during the invasion of the Valley of the Jedi.

But the timelines say that the JK2 demo (which includes an encounter with a reborn) happened to take place before the events of JK2.

Now what?

Is there something I missed in the manual (reread it, but couldn't find anything)?

DannyJAllTheWay
06-09-2002, 09:46 PM
I thought the shadowtroopers were teh ones who used the crystals.....
:wavey:

*edit- Oh, I see what you are saying... Hrm... maybe they goofed then...*

Snake13
06-09-2002, 10:27 PM
how could it be before JK2 if kyle has his powers back?

Fossil25
06-09-2002, 11:32 PM
maybe the demo took place in yoda's son's dream

Bungalow
06-09-2002, 11:35 PM
I'm confused:confused:

JandoFett1842
06-09-2002, 11:59 PM
Hhmmm . . . This is stange. Mabe it is consperacy by lucas arts to confuse people to have pointless conversation. Just a tought?

Exterminator234
06-10-2002, 10:54 AM
im gonna have to go with fossil on this one

obi
06-10-2002, 11:10 AM
Originally posted by Snake13
how could it be before JK2 if kyle has his powers back?


maybe kyle found a Keyboard and typed "setforceall 10"


:D :D :D :D

JandoFett1842
06-10-2002, 12:03 PM
Very Confusing

Fossil25
06-10-2002, 12:41 PM
he forgot about devmapall :p

Timber
06-10-2002, 12:47 PM
The Reborn in the demo is actually the Emperor who didn't die at all, in a REBORN suit!

Fossil25
06-10-2002, 01:22 PM
i don't have great star wars background or stuff, but what is actually supposed to happen in episodes 7 to 9?
there probably won't be a movie on it, or even if there is, it'll be when i'm like decades older.
some friend of mine was saying the emperor wasn't he actual emperor on the ship where he was thrown down the pit by darth vader. he said that was just some other form because he was on some planet and just used some 'dunno wad' to make another form of him there. then he said about the jedi academy thing which now i know also due to the game. he said something about some 2000 year old guy in some temple on a planet...exarcun exarkun whatever. and every guy died trying to kill him cause he was so pro, being the first to use a double sided lightsaber so the academy blew the planet up or something...

what's the story in 7-9?

Sutek
06-10-2002, 01:59 PM
There is no official 7-9 storyline as yet, but the best contender is a trilogy of books by Timothy Zahn (but for some irritating reason the names escape me...argh, everyon knows them as the Thrawn trilogy). Their worth reading (IMO about the only ones which are).

As for the storyline problem, well, we all know that the people who work in Marketing rarely know what day it is, so a little error in storyline timing is forgiveable :>

edinflames
06-10-2002, 02:01 PM
i red the books so i know...

there isnt an episode 7-9 all these books that have been relaesed tie in with each other to a set storyline but there is about 10 offical trilogies set after rotj that follow in order, prob is will any become or influence episodes 7-9.

the emperor was killed on :deathii: BUT he had a clone body built for him ages ago that his spirit could inhabit once he died.

exar-kun was an aincient sith lord (and creator of the double bladed saber:dsaber:- not darth maul) who was immensly powerful but died 4000 yrs b4 ep1. the new sith order that he founded was based on yavin 4 in the big massasi temples. when luke set up his jedi acedemy there exar kun's spirit awakened and sought out a body for himself. He found Kyp Durron a young powerful jedi luke himself was training and possesd him. eventually exar kun's spirit was removed from kyp.

stuff on exar kun can be found on

this page (http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/exarkun/eu.html) c3=)

Jedi-Ghendu
06-10-2002, 07:07 PM
history class on the forums :P

~*H0ly_sHat*~
06-11-2002, 02:29 AM
i got a question abt reborns too!

why are Reborns called Reborns?:confused:

Fossil25
06-11-2002, 05:02 AM
i haven't completed the game...lazy
but are the crystals being used for making shadowtroopers or reborns? i always thought it was for reborns until i played the artus maps and saw them making shadowtroopers in chambers.

Sutek
06-11-2002, 06:34 AM
why are Reborns called Reborns?

Cos they're being "reborn" as a force user. It's analogous to baptism from christianity.


but are the crystals being used for making shadowtroopers or reborns? i always thought it was for reborns until i played the artus maps and saw them making shadowtroopers in chambers.

I understood that the crystals were the focus of the powers, allowing those who possessed them to use force powers where they could not before (or more powerful ones). It's something to do with the crystal absorbing and emitting the force I reckon. (there's a few hints about it here and there. I just have an overactive imagination).

You Myst
06-11-2002, 08:36 AM
its all in the storyline about the crystals...
they are used to create light sabers...
they were rigged into the shadowtrooper armor...
reason for this... the armor basically creates a semi force feild that deflects light sabers because the 'sheild' is running like a big human shaped "lightsheild"
simple physics... opposites attract... identical repels...
after all.. what better way to storm a place inhabited by a buch of jedi, than with armor that is resistant to lightsabers? ... only blasters there were brought by kyle...

NJX_Hatchet
06-11-2002, 11:15 AM
actually... the crystals generally used for lightsaber construction are Adegan(sp) the crystals the shadow troopers use are artusian (sp) crystals... completely different. these are used to endow the shadow troopers with force abilities.

the saber resistance that you refer to as a forcefield like setup... actually resides in the armor itself.

the Armor is made partly of cortosis Ore, which was introduced in the thrawn trilogy. according to those novels.... cortosis is a powdery black, charcoal like substance. when a lightsaber hits cortosis, it shorts out and shuts down.... (some kind of resonance thing) this creates and inconsistancy in the game... but that is how they explain it.

Koenig
06-11-2002, 01:48 PM
actualy( and I kid you not about this) they refer to the resonance thing as a resonance cascade, which is a great reference to another great game we all know. Reborn I think may have the Crystal somewhere on their bodies, they were probably the first test version.

Jedi-Ghendu
06-11-2002, 03:46 PM
only shadowtroopers have the force crystals because when u kill them they drop it !

NJX_Hatchet
06-11-2002, 04:06 PM
you know... I was wondering... since you collect the force crystals dropped by the shadow troopers... is there some kind of in game reward for bothering with going back to pick these up? they're not really essential pickups are they?

zworqy
06-11-2002, 08:48 PM
The force cystals will simply replenish your force "supply" if it isn't already full.

Jedi-Ghendu
06-11-2002, 09:13 PM
hatchet u get no special reward for them except they will replenish your force and thats it

KnobBoy
06-11-2002, 10:35 PM
Episodes 7-9 will never exist because Lucas is almost 60, and all the Actors are pretty crusty looking. I don't think Harrison Ford would participate either.

chilli
06-12-2002, 10:28 AM
did it ever ocur to u that the demo wouldn't be very goood without force powers and lightsaber fights?

it's a demo and they need some way to fit it into the plot

I personnoally think that the acadamy level would make the best demo if they added in a lightsaber duel