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Darth Maul Jr.
09-01-2001, 07:15 PM
Lets help Aoerat with his guesses on the units at his Imperial Garrison website. I for one hav noticed a unit that he has not posted. If you look at the Naboo screenshots you will see sleek fighters flying overhead. Those are the N-1. Can anyone else think of stuff?

Tie Guy
09-01-2001, 07:23 PM
Those fighters in the naboo screens are not N-1, but the naboo bomber. you can tell becuse it is much wider and the tail is "cutt off"

Admiral Thrawn
09-01-2001, 07:24 PM
And why would I help the guy who made my life miserible renovating my website?

darthfergie
09-01-2001, 07:30 PM
Link to Garrison
http://www.heavengames.com/angels/aoerat/

Okay complant list will start now:
1) Rebel Gatherer- should be Rebel heavy Tank, Juggernaught(link)
http://www.heavengames.com/angels/aoerat/unitinfo.php?unit=Rebel%20Gatherer

More will come:)

Admiral Thrawn
09-01-2001, 07:32 PM
All you have to do is look at my unit listings http://empireofcoruscant.cjb.net/

darthfergie
09-01-2001, 08:43 PM
Your wrong too!!!:o
1)The Imperial trooper is a rebel Trooper:rolleyes:
2) Atromech Droid is Reb not Imp
3)IMPS DON'T HAVE A COMMAND CENTER BOAT!!!!:mad: That is a Transport!!!!
4)The "wheeled transport for the Rebs isn't one:mad: It is the Juaggernaught
5)The Wookie Berserk...ISN'T THE STANDARD TROOPER!!!!:mad: It is the Unique Unit!!! Also that isn't a Berserker. Read the Berserker description on mfo. They have a pretty good preview.
6)why did you put wildlife in the wookie department????(if it is wildlife)

7) you site is under construction.;)

Tie Guy
09-01-2001, 08:52 PM
http://www.heavengames.com/angels/aoerat/unitinfo.php?unit=Attack%20Craft

This so-called wookiee speeder is the agr fighter, not even a land unit.

Rdog22
09-01-2001, 08:53 PM
First of all Admiral Thrawn:

Wookies:
The Berserker is not a standard trooper, it is a UU
The "Wookie Tank" is a Wookie Kas Tank, or an upgrade or downgrade of it.
The "Wookie Starfighter" is the Wookie Agr Starfighter

Empire:
The "At-Pt" is not an At-Pt, although it might be an upgrade or downgrade to the At-Pt or the At-St.

Rebel Alliance:
The "Missile Tank" is a Proton Torpedoe Launcher
The "Wheeled ATV" is the Rebel's Juggernaut(pre or post to it)

If I sounded mean I didn't mean to, I was simply correcting the things that I saw were misinterpreted. I also have a unit speculation page at: http://www.cableone.net/Rdog22/index.htm
I hope it helps

darthfergie
09-01-2001, 08:53 PM
AoE Rat....more:D

2) Super At-Pt is most likly the Pre-At-St (I'll give it to you for now)

3)Again...Atromech Droid isn't Imp. Worker Droid it is the Rebs. The Imp one is in the New concept art on Lucasarts

4)AGAIN IT ISN'T A COMMAND VESSEL!!!:mad: IT IS THE IMP TRANSPORT!!!!:mad:

5)Protable gun for Imps is the E-web:)

6)You have a Gungan boat under troopers

7)THE COMMAND CENTER FOR THE REBS!!!!:mad: IS A SIEGE WEAPON!!!The equivalent of a Trebuchet. (in your OWN screenshot named Imperial Naval Assault you can see them deployed in the top left hand side)

8)...I guess that's all...for now;)

Admiral Thrawn
09-01-2001, 09:07 PM
Originally posted by darthfergie
AoE Rat....more:D

2) Super At-Pt is most likly the Pre-At-St (I'll give it to you for now)

3)Again...Atromech Droid isn't Imp. Worker Droid it is the Rebs. The Imp one is in the New concept art on Lucasarts

4)AGAIN IT ISN'T A COMMAND VESSEL!!!:mad: IT IS THE IMP TRANSPORT!!!!:mad:

5)Protable gun for Imps is the E-web:)

6)You have a Gungan boat under troopers

7)THE COMMAND CENTER FOR THE REBS!!!!:mad: IS A SIEGE WEAPON!!!The equivalent of a Trebuchet. (in your OWN screenshot named Imperial Naval Assault you can see them deployed in the top left hand side)

8)...I guess that's all...for now;)



The AT-PT Gaber said was not a AT-ST.

Admiral Thrawn
09-01-2001, 09:08 PM
O yea, and thank you guys, even if you were a little blunt, I will update the site tonight.

Darth Maul Jr.
09-01-2001, 09:09 PM
Well this certainily wasnt meant to criticize the guy. I just think he did a good thing by taking the initiative and trying to make out what we see in the screenshots since Lucasarts refuses to release info on units even though they are all finished! I think Aoerat did a good thing. My purpose for making the string was to give him some help because even i , who isnt really big on the Star Wars vehicle identification and such, could tell he was way off on some things, most noticably making hte little R2D2's to be some kinda Imperial unit. I would hope that if R2D2 type droids were used as workers it would only make sense for them to put em on the Rebel side. But then that's only a guess like all of our speculation on this game. Plus hte site is good becuase people like me can go there and see what all these things are that we seen on the screen shots!:D

Darth Maul Jr.
09-01-2001, 09:12 PM
nice site Admiral Thrawn but even yours has flaws...at leat i think...you got the Galactic Empire as having 2 basic infantry units? Why would htey have 2? Is the Stormtrooper an upgrade to the first? If so you didnt point that out.

Admiral Thrawn
09-01-2001, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by Darth Maul Jr.
nice site Admiral Thrawn but even yours has flaws...at leat i think...you got the Galactic Empire as having 2 basic infantry units? Why would htey have 2? Is the Stormtrooper an upgrade to the first? If so you didnt point that out.

Well in the books, they mentioned that there was Infantry, kinda like militia, and then there was Storm Troopers that where more expensive. (From the 3rd Thrawn Book)

Admiral Thrawn
09-01-2001, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by darthfergie
Your wrong too!!!:o
1)The Imperial trooper is a rebel Trooper:rolleyes:
2) Atromech Droid is Reb not Imp
3)IMPS DON'T HAVE A COMMAND CENTER BOAT!!!!:mad: That is a Transport!!!!
4)The "wheeled transport for the Rebs isn't one:mad: It is the Juaggernaught
5)The Wookie Berserk...ISN'T THE STANDARD TROOPER!!!!:mad: It is the Unique Unit!!! Also that isn't a Berserker. Read the Berserker description on mfo. They have a pretty good preview.
6)why did you put wildlife in the wookie department????(if it is wildlife)

7) you site is under construction.;)

Actually The Chain Gun Wookiee (My nick name for it) Is like the E-Web, while the Wookiee is the Standered Fighter like a Storm trooper, and the Beserk I do have pictures of, but it is always blurry and I can barely make it out.

And the wild life I just did as a random thing, I will correct that.

And thanks for the other suggestions.

Darth Maul Jr.
09-01-2001, 09:35 PM
Well i went through the screenshots at Lucasarts webpage and this is the stuff i came up with on my own, feel free to correct me and i hope this helps anyone out with clues or ideas:

1. The ship flying overhead in screenshot # 11 looks like a N-1.

2. I think those are gungan turrest featured in screenshot # 2. There's one with a crown of small bubbles and the other looks plain, prolly a watch tower.

3. That huge blue, teal and gold gungan building in screenshot # 8 looks to me to be the Gungan fortress(castle).

4. Those building with orange bubbles on them near the shore in screenshot # 4 have got to be Gungan shipyards.

5. The building on the shore in screenshot # 5 looks to me to be a wookie shipyard

6. Those grey metalic skinny wiry pole like things in screenshot # 10 look like a wookie power core to me.

7. I'm bettin the dude with the white pants is a rebel infantry and not imp..take a look at screenshot # 15.

8. The astromech droid is rebel not imperial. Look at screenshot # 17. The Imps are teal and the rebels are blue...the droids are colored blue.

THat's all i could make out...anyone else?:D

darthfergie
09-01-2001, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by Admiral Thrawn
and the Beserk I do have pictures of, but it is always blurry and I can barely make it out.



Then why does MFO keep saying there are NO screens of Beserkers??? Also where is your confirmation. And you description of the Beserker REALLY needs changing. Didn't mean to sound blunt but the fan sites just keep showing flat out wrong stuff and don't do anything about it (AoE Rat and the Command Centers:mad: I'm getting tierd of looking at that false info)

Darth_Rommel
09-01-2001, 10:28 PM
Well, it's a fan site... and they are opinionated :( I thought the guesses were real good, and think both guys did a great job! Keep up the great work!

darthfergie
09-01-2001, 10:59 PM
Originally posted by Darth_Rommel
Well, it's a fan site... and they are opinionated :( I thought the guesses were real good, and think both guys did a great job! Keep up the great work!

Opinionated on falsehood is not a good thing. I like the work they have done, don't get me wrong. But I think they need to get their facts straight at the very least.

Admiral Thrawn
09-01-2001, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by darthfergie



Then why does MFO keep saying there are NO screens of Beserkers??? Also where is your confirmation. And you description of the Beserker REALLY needs changing. Didn't mean to sound blunt but the fan sites just keep showing flat out wrong stuff and don't do anything about it (AoE Rat and the Command Centers:mad: I'm getting tierd of looking at that false info)

Actually that could be considered Flaming. I have spent many hours on my site maybe the graffics look good and organizing unit pictures and data. I am correcting my mistakes, and I would like it if you would not flame me for something I can not correct exactly at this time. One, I do have pictures of the Beserker, and MFO said they don't didn't have it because they never update old news and at the time the screenshots containing the Beserker were not out yet. Two, my information of the standered Wookiee infantry is correct. The beserker is the UU not the standered Infantry unit.
Also I would be rather greatful if both of you would continue helping me organize my site correctly, but please try to with-hold the aggression and try to understand I can not spend my entire life on the computer and I can not exactly correct my site just yet.
Tonight if I have time I will sit down and get to work on finishing the Gungan page and units, and correcting other mistakes while organizing the Galactic Empire Page and Setting up a Gaia page along with it for the food and wildlife. Also thank you Rdog22 for the site. I will use it to correctly label my units.

darthfergie
09-01-2001, 11:20 PM
Wasn't really flaming you...well maybe...
I'm just mad how AoE Rat doesn't change that Command Center Crap.:mad: That was the main reason I vented there.

Two, my information of the standered Wookiee infantry is correct. The beserker is the UU not the standered Infantry unit.

Not really...on your site(direct Quote)

Wookie Beserk ,
Tipical Fodder
and Standered
Trooper

xwing guy
09-01-2001, 11:21 PM
Yeah because what there saying is misleading a lot of people and thats not good.

Admiral Thrawn
09-01-2001, 11:23 PM
Yes I can under stand that. Also I will try and update the site now.

darthfergie
09-01-2001, 11:28 PM
Originally posted by Admiral Thrawn
Yes I can under stand that. Also I will try and update the site now.

THANKS:D Sorry if I sounded harsh...

Darth Maul Jr.
09-02-2001, 12:30 AM
That Mr. Fixit review is old old old.. Plus its kinda odd how Lucasarts is witholding hte info on units and techs...if you look at the Warcraft 3 homepage they update it wiht new units constantly as soon as the units are made. Maybe Lucasarts doesnt have the web space to post all the units for each civ so they just rather not post any at all. Its true those guys are making guesses, but they cant be that far off on their guesses. I mean if you see a small guy with a gun on the Imperial side its a safe bet that he's some kinda light infantry of some sort. I think its great, keep up the good work guys.:D

Rdog22
09-02-2001, 12:36 AM
LucasArts has always been very secretive and even obsessive about not revealing information. Actually all the Star Wars creators are. In the Novels, they refuse to give us anything but a cover. In RPG they give us a small issue a week. I the movies they try very, very hard to keep all the info under cover, Episode 2 kinda failed in that department though because of some disgruntled employees.

AoErat
09-02-2001, 12:42 AM
Hi guys,

Thanks for all the suggestions. I'll read through them all (and the flames ;) )and pick out the ones that make sense. I should have IG updated by tomorrow.

I recently recieved the Empire Earth beta, so I've been understandably busy. :)

Thank you for your patience.

~ AoErat

Darth Maul Jr.
09-02-2001, 12:54 AM
Could you please elaborate on the disgruntled employees? hehe:D

Admiral Thrawn
09-02-2001, 01:38 AM
Hehehe No kidding about flaming, lol. Man guys if you ever want a picture or screenshot, never take it from AoeRat, he is sooo crazy of that. Even if you do it correctly and try to do a better job, lol.

darthfergie
09-02-2001, 01:40 AM
Originally posted by Admiral Thrawn
Hehehe No kidding about flaming, lol. Man guys if you ever want a picture or screnshot, never take it from AoeRat, he is sooo crazy of that. Even if you do it correctly and try to do a better job, lol.

Okay I'll take the advise...I...peronaly...like your screenshot section better than AoE Rat...but still...

Admiral Thrawn
09-02-2001, 01:44 AM
O yea and if you try to take graffics, he will do this imatation of Vader and try to strangle you to death with the force. Lol

darthfergie
09-02-2001, 01:50 AM
Rdog22...what do you mean by
At-Ap?- Artillery
This could be an aquatic artillery platform. It would be very effective against Mechs and troopers.

Could you please post a picture...:confused:

Rdog22
09-02-2001, 02:52 AM
I need to update all those, but it is called, according to the new concept arts, the Siege Ship.

darthfergie
09-02-2001, 01:55 PM
Oh...I had no Idea...like I said could you please post a picture...or at least a link to the picture...(you post pictures by useing the image button)
http://www.fortunecity.com/tatooine/darkknight/251/images/aniani.gif (http://www.geocities.com/fergbacca/FergbaccaSW.html)

Darth Maul Jr.
09-02-2001, 02:32 PM
Hey Rdogg22 you still havent explained what the disgruntled employees did to spoil episode II...hehe..i wasnt aware of this and i'd like to know what they did.

By the way, does anyone remember when Episode I was coming out and that dude that worked at the movie theatre stole a 40 lb roll of film that had parts of Episode I on it..hehe..:D

Admiral Thrawn
09-02-2001, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by Darth Maul Jr.
Hey Rdogg22 you still havent explained what the disgruntled employees did to spoil episode II...hehe..i wasnt aware of this and i'd like to know what they did.

By the way, does anyone remember when Episode I was coming out and that dude that worked at the movie theatre stole a 40 lb roll of film that had parts of Episode I on it..hehe..:D

Buahahaha Feel the fear :deathstar

Captain Fett
09-03-2001, 12:10 AM
Thrawn, your site rocks, same to darth fergie/fergbacca! Also to AoErat: i admire you for at least trying to make a web site and taking all the grief that people are throwing at you. I could never do it.

darthfergie
09-03-2001, 12:24 AM
Thanks for the complement on the website...about the greaf though...it was all sugestions applied with a bit of anger...when the two mix...it is an explosive concoction:D

Admiral Thrawn
09-03-2001, 05:58 AM
I got grief, I just used a sneaky way by making everyone feel guilty :p :D

Paragon_Leon
09-03-2001, 10:12 AM
let's stay on topic, folks...
this thread is for making suggestions about unit-guesses. not discussing flaming / types of responses..

it looks like we can keep warning about this forever without anyone really acting accordingly. i feel like the moment comes closer when we actually need to take action here..

Admiral Thrawn
09-03-2001, 02:43 PM
Well anyways to get back on topic I kinda got distracted and will not be finishing the site anytime soon :band:

darthfergie
09-03-2001, 06:04 PM
man that stinks:(

Admiral Thrawn
09-03-2001, 08:07 PM
Don't worry I have the information, I just need to finish remodeling the pages.

Rdog22
09-04-2001, 12:13 AM
Some LucasFilms employee leaked info about a lot of stuff to Theforce.net, I think.

Admiral Thrawn
09-04-2001, 09:06 AM
Yes, I noticed.