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Daver Hacker
06-11-2002, 10:45 AM
OK guys, I am upgrading my rig, but before I do, I want to know roughly how much extra fps I will get.
At the moment, on the first multiplayer map I get 24-50 with my P3 800/Voodoo 5.

What do you people get, and with what CPU/graphics card?

Thalandor
06-11-2002, 11:25 AM
I got an athlon 1.3 ghz with 256 megs of pc133 ram and a gf4 ti4600... here's what I get in frame rates in single player, since I haven't played multi yet...

In general play with 85-110 fps, though it goes down to 55-70 in large ouside areas with lots of action (though it's not noticable to the eyes).

Jk2 rocks !

BlackDove
06-11-2002, 11:26 AM
Rich bastard......all I got is a petty TNT2.....

Jedi2k2
06-11-2002, 11:32 AM
uhhh when you have a job that pays money its not that expensive captain.............:swear: :tsk: :violin:

BlackDove
06-11-2002, 11:44 AM
Uh huh...500 bucks for a card isn't expencive...besides if it's not that expencive why don't you buy it?

QuietSith
06-11-2002, 11:44 AM
This (I suggest the Intel chipset - P4B533 or P4B533-E):

http://www.outsideloop.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=olcomp&Product_Code=CMB-P4OC&Category_Code=int-cmb

And one of these:

http://www.outsideloop.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=olcomp&Category_Code=vis

Ah Boon
06-11-2002, 11:52 AM
i get around 50-70fps usually and drops down drasticly to 20-40fps in really large ares with really lots of enemies(eg. 40 jedis fighting against each other in map pit)i have 64mb geforce2 and 1.8ghz p4

Rassick
06-11-2002, 12:05 PM
I get around 95. With Vsync off I get around 120.

Steg
06-11-2002, 12:59 PM
ive got a 1ghz thunderbird 256mg pc133 ram and a Ge3Ti200
and in a JKII timedemo using the default demo i get about 38fps average
i would recommend (depending on ur budget...)
A Asus Mboro with a VIA chipset
256/512/1024mg DDR ram @ either 266/333
an athlon XP
a ge4ti or a ge3ti500
and a SB audigy if u have the money

Steg

Thalandor
06-11-2002, 01:08 PM
We should not forget to mention on what display settings we play this game for fps comparison... See my post above, well, I run this with all settings to max, but no EAX since I don't have an Audigy yet and shadows are not volumetric since they are ugly (heard it slows fps too). Resolution is 1024X768, 32 bit.

TyrX
06-11-2002, 03:58 PM
I have a Duron 850 with 512 MB SDRAM and a Radeon 8500 64MB. I get about 90-105 fps usually, sometimes it will drop to about 70-85, but only on big areas or lots of fighting going on.

Jedi2k2
06-11-2002, 11:07 PM
Originally posted by =SSC=Kal-El
Uh huh...500 bucks for a card isn't expencive...besides if it's not that expencive why don't you buy it?
you must really not know your computer parts.... A GeForce4 Ti4600 is only 320-400$ depending on the manufactoring company ex. - MSI, Visiontek,ELSA...... Check newegg.com since your a retard and probably don't believe me. And I never said I didnt have the parts.......I have enough money to buy 15 MSI GeForce4 Ti4600 but I am looking at buying a car now.... Don't talk when you know nothing about computers and speak....

:tsk:

QuietSith
06-11-2002, 11:17 PM
If you really want to test your FPS, try this:

"Comanche 4 DirectX™ 8.1 Benchmark Demo"

http://www.novalogic.com/downloaddetails.asp?GameKey=C4#Single%20Player%20D emo

Read more about it here:

http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/reviews/comanche4bench/

This is what I got:

System Specs:

P4 2.4 gig (1.6 oc'ed to 2.4), Asus P4B266, 1 gig DDR Mushkin (2-2-2), SB Audigy, Linksys Network card, Ricoh CD-Writer, 3 IBM HD's (200+ gigs).

Programs running in background:

PowerStrip
ZoneAlarm Pro

It's very important you turn off ALL non-essential background programs - even a simple messenger program such as ICQ or Trillian can slow down your system a lot with this benchmark/game.

I skipped over FSAA = 2.

Notice - I turned off audio and compression:

Comanche 4 Benchmark Results for 1024x768x32 FSAA=0 VSync=OFF DXTC=DISABLED AUDIO=OFF SHADERS=ENABLED

Frames per second: 46.72 avg
Tris per second: 9,303,569 avg

Comanche 4 Benchmark Results for 1024x768x32 FSAA=4 VSync=OFF DXTC=DISABLED AUDIO=OFF SHADERS=ENABLED

Frames per second: 38.13 avg
Tris per second: 7,592,742 avg


Comanche 4 Benchmark Results for 1280x1024x32 FSAA=0 VSync=OFF DXTC=DISABLED AUDIO=OFF SHADERS=ENABLED

Frames per second: 45.20 avg
Tris per second: 9,001,106 avg


Comanche 4 Benchmark Results for 1280x1024x32 FSAA=4 VSync=OFF DXTC=DISABLED AUDIO=OFF SHADERS=ENABLED

Frames per second: 25.08 avg
Tris per second: 4,994,797 avg

Comanche 4 Benchmark Results for 1600x1200x32 FSAA=0 VSync=OFF DXTC=DISABLED AUDIO=OFF SHADERS=ENABLED

Frames per second: 41.44 avg
Tris per second: 8,252,148 avg


Comanche 4 Benchmark Results for 1600x1200x32 FSAA=4 VSync=OFF DXTC=DISABLED AUDIO=OFF SHADERS=ENABLED

Frames per second: 15.86 avg
Tris per second: 3,159,514 avg

Jedi2k2
06-11-2002, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by QuietSith
If you really want to test your FPS, try this:

"Comanche 4 DirectX™ 8.1 Benchmark Demo"

http://www.novalogic.com/downloaddetails.asp?GameKey=C4#Single%20Player%20D emo

Read more about it here:

http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/reviews/comanche4bench/

This is what I got:

System Specs:

P4 2.4 gig (1.6 oc'ed to 2.4), Asus P4B266, 1 gig DDR Mushkin (2-2-2), SB Audigy, Linksys Network card, Ricoh CD-Writer, 3 IBM HD's (200+ gigs).

Programs running in background:

PowerStrip
ZoneAlarm Pro

It's very important you turn off ALL non-essential background programs - even a simple messenger program such as ICQ or Trillian can slow down your system a lot with this benchmark/game.

I skipped over FSAA = 2.

Notice - I turned off audio and compression:

Comanche 4 Benchmark Results for 1024x768x32 FSAA=0 VSync=OFF DXTC=DISABLED AUDIO=OFF SHADERS=ENABLED

Frames per second: 46.72 avg
Tris per second: 9,303,569 avg

Comanche 4 Benchmark Results for 1024x768x32 FSAA=4 VSync=OFF DXTC=DISABLED AUDIO=OFF SHADERS=ENABLED

Frames per second: 38.13 avg
Tris per second: 7,592,742 avg


Comanche 4 Benchmark Results for 1280x1024x32 FSAA=0 VSync=OFF DXTC=DISABLED AUDIO=OFF SHADERS=ENABLED

Frames per second: 45.20 avg
Tris per second: 9,001,106 avg


Comanche 4 Benchmark Results for 1280x1024x32 FSAA=4 VSync=OFF DXTC=DISABLED AUDIO=OFF SHADERS=ENABLED

Frames per second: 25.08 avg
Tris per second: 4,994,797 avg

Comanche 4 Benchmark Results for 1600x1200x32 FSAA=0 VSync=OFF DXTC=DISABLED AUDIO=OFF SHADERS=ENABLED

Frames per second: 41.44 avg
Tris per second: 8,252,148 avg


Comanche 4 Benchmark Results for 1600x1200x32 FSAA=4 VSync=OFF DXTC=DISABLED AUDIO=OFF SHADERS=ENABLED

Frames per second: 15.86 avg
Tris per second: 3,159,514 avg

3DMark2002SE is the best and most widely used benchmarking utility. its much better than Comanche 4 DirectX™ 8.1 Benchmark Demo. Just IMHO

Brad Vickers
06-11-2002, 11:28 PM
Mine's so messed up I don't know what it is, but it can't handle big areas (like in jk2 :)

QuietSith
06-11-2002, 11:39 PM
Turn your geometry to lowest, and color to 16 bit - texture can be 32 bit.

Ah Boon
06-12-2002, 12:34 AM
i got around 3900+ points on 3dMarks 2001SE test running on 800x600x32 with everything to the max except FSAA.

Nobodi Kenobi
06-12-2002, 04:12 AM
I have a P IV, 1.8 GHz with 768 RAM with a 64 MB GeForce 2 MX400 and get about 100-110 fps on SP with everything maxed out - except AA - At 800 x 600 resolution (OpenGL extentions disabled eventhough I have OpenGL drivers; Raven says it is best to disable GL for JK II).

For MP I get about 60-70 fps and then it drops to like 40-50 depending on the complexity of the map -- I am a duelist only so maps like "Duel_Hangar" with the reflective floor are the only kind of maps that really lag my fps along with other high quality "eye candy" custom maps like "Republic Duel Temple" with the volumetric haze and advanced textures.

Pedantic
06-12-2002, 04:36 AM
I have a T-Bird 1266MHz w/ 256 SDRAM and a Radeon 32MB DDR LE card. I get anywhere from 100+ to 4 fps. It depends on the map and what's in my view. That video card is so cheap, but it's still got mad skills. :) I run the game at 1152 by 864 w/ 16-bit color.

GE Predator
06-12-2002, 12:59 PM
I've got a P4 1.4 ghz, 256 megs RDRAM and a GeForce3 Ti 200. But it NEVER goes higher then 90 fps :confused:
Sometimes it just sits there at 90, never going lower. Even if I look at a pitch black area, still 90 fps.

It's like capped or something, dunno. It does go lower though depending on the area I'm in.

UseTheForce
06-12-2002, 01:12 PM
With a PIII 800mhz, GeForce 2 mx400 64mb, and 256mb sdr ram, I get round 20-30fps, and around 60 in a small room.

To the man above me- 90FPS is good. Think about it this way- 30FPS is fullmotion video. When you watch cable TV, it's going at around 30FPS. Three times what is thought to be full-motion video isn't bad at all.

Ah Boon
06-13-2002, 12:45 AM
for those with a geforce2, how on earth do u get 100+ fps?!?! i have a 64mb geforce2 but the highest i ever get is 70+ on 800x600!!! TEACH ME HOW!!!

Nobodi Kenobi
06-13-2002, 03:43 AM
Ah Boon

You can max out FPS to be whatever you want using this command in either your SP or MP config in your base directory:

seta com_maxfps "100"

However, whether your video card will actually give you that frame rate depends on a lot of other factors other than just the card.

Your CPU is one, your RAM is another -- Raven also suggests using a command that I can't think of right now that allocates how much RAM will be used for JO when it runs.

I have mine at 512 -- Yeah, it's a lot, but it's worth it given the performance enhancements to play (whether this effects FPS either directly or indirectly I don't know, but I use it).

In addition, Nvidia cards have a Nvidia Refresh Rate patch you can download (search this forum; there is a specific thread) that allows you set your refresh rates above the Windows XP 60 FPS limit to anything your monitor can handle (I have mine set at 800x600 at 120 FPS) -- However, always have Vertical Sync set to OFF in the setup menu for video in JK II... Especially, for MP.

MP fps is more or less determined by packet loss (lag) and other things like the complexity of the map (reflective surfaces; dynamic lighting; lens flares) and the speed of your connection.

If I am wrong in any of these aspects, please someone else correct me.

Cobalt60
06-13-2002, 09:52 AM
there's a toggle for "vertical sync" in the nVidia control applet,
under the OpenGL tab. set this to "off by default"

Daver Hacker
06-13-2002, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by Rassick
I get around 95. With Vsync off I get around 120.

Rassick thats gr8 :D What is your spec? Those are my QuakeIII fps's but JK2 is sooo much worse!

Daver Hacker
06-13-2002, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by QuietSith
This (I suggest the Intel chipset - P4B533 or P4B533-E):

http://www.outsideloop.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=olcomp&Product_Code=CMB-P4OC&Category_Code=int-cmb

And one of these:

http://www.outsideloop.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=olcomp&Category_Code=vis


Thanks, but those 128MB GF4's are about that price in pounds! and I am not spending £300 on a card.
However, I have found a GeForce4 Ti4200 64MB for £138!!! Thats good value.

Daver Hacker
06-13-2002, 10:34 AM
I am using 800*600 with all the effects off like wallmarks off (its a shame wallmarks look cool) and with a picmip setting of 3 (to stretch the textures, but not too much like 5).
Basically my problem is the Voodoo isnt supported. On other games I get good fps and picture quality, but on this it looks naff and has a naff fps.
Maybe its time to upgrade?

TyrX, how on earth do you get such a high fps with a Duron 850? No offence, but they seem like pretty slow processors, but your fps is really good.
I did forget to mention, I took my fps readings as the server, not a client.

UseTheForce, your rig is similar to mine and you get similar performance - glad to know mine isnt working too badly.
:cool:

Ethereal RaVeN
06-13-2002, 01:22 PM
n00b here.

hehe.

I don't know what my FPS is beacuse I don't know the console command to show fps. My FPS in CS is 30-60.

Duron 900
256 MB SDRAM
32MB TNT2 <-- BLEH! hopefully i'll have a better one soon :D

i run it at 1024x768
16-bit everything, everything on LOW, and it still sucks. any way to make it better w/o new hardware? oh and the command to SHOW the friggin FPS too.. heh

don't even think about flaming me beacuse i'm a no0b.

. O_o

thanks.

raVeN

UseTheForce
06-13-2002, 02:07 PM
I don't know the command to show FPS... I think it's draw_fps, but I could be wrong. I don't use it anyway- I use a program called Fraps, which you can download here (http://www.fraps.com/). It'll show your FPS in any Direct-X-based game, and doesn't take too much RAM.

Anywho, that's odd how you have to set everything on low. I have a 64mb graphics card, but an inferior processor- I have everything maxed out, except shadows, which I keep simple. 1024x768, 32-bit everything. 30-60 FPS. Maybe you should try closing any programs you're running before playing? Disabling anti-virus software?

Nobodi Kenobi
06-13-2002, 02:14 PM
E Raven


This is the command to show FPS in the console (Shift + ~):

seta cg_drawFPS "1"

1 toggles it on, 0 toggles it off.

If you can afford it, I would recommend upgrading to at least a 64 MB video card (whatever brand you want) not just for JO, but for all games that are coming like CS: CZ, UT 2002, etc.

I am curious to know, has anybody got the new GeForce 3/4 Ti 128 MB card (it's like $400 US dollars)?

If so, is it worth it?

Can you have AA on and still get like 100 fps?

That's what I am looking for (for no good reason ;)).

I am thinking about getting it... But is it worth it?

Ah Boon
06-13-2002, 02:39 PM
where can i find that openGL tab? bte, thnx a lot for ur help brothers :)

Ah Boon
06-13-2002, 02:53 PM
now, with out turning off 'something' in the openGL menu which i cant find, i get around typically 70-80 fps but never maintain a 100 fps :( I am sad.....

flippo
06-13-2002, 05:48 PM
p3 1 ghz geforce 3 256 mbs ram

JK2: 1024x768, all effects turned up except for texture detail which is just at high.

41 fps in timedemo with JK2FFA demo.

Quake3: 1024x768, all effects all the way up.

68 fps in timedemo.

JK2 is a bitch.

farhan006
06-13-2002, 06:13 PM
i hate it when people say "damn i have a fps of 40." I mean can you tell the difference between 40 and 70. i mean the human eye cant tell the difference of anything above 60 fps. i mean 20 fps is okay with me, as long as my gameplay is smooth and not jittery.

so 60 fps and 200 fps is pretty much the same. Only a humming bird can tell the difference.

Ah Boon
06-13-2002, 11:37 PM
its nice to have fps of 100 tho.... mind to tell me where can i find the openGL tab and turn off vertical sync somewhere in nvidia tab? all i can find in the properties menu are color management and other bs tabs. i simply cant find something that says anything to turn off vertical sync.

Nobodi Kenobi
06-14-2002, 03:59 AM
Go to your display properties (using whatever OS you have; Control Panel) and under SETTINGS hit ADVANCED.

If you have a GeForce Nvidia card, the next dialogue box that pops up is the specific tweaking utility that has the Color Management tab and other tabs for the Nvidia card itself.

One of those tabs should be for the exact card you have. In my case it says GeForce2 MX 400.

Click on that and then the ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES button which brings up yet another dialouge box that that contatins more tabs for Anti-Aliasing, Direct 3D and OpenGL, etc.

Click on OpenGL and there is a bunch of combobox menus that allow you to specificy and/or override certain default settings.

One of these settings allows you to have VERTICAL SYNC on or off.

I have mine set to always OFF since other games I play also recommend it (the logic being if that your FPS should = your refresh rate. The problem with that is what if you have a lesser refresh rate for your desktop versus what a specific game requires to run smoothly?).

Make your changes to these combo boxes and then hit SAVE AS and exit out. You should restart your computer to make sure the changes take effect.

In addition, make sure to also use the SETUP menu in JK II under the MORE VIDEO settings category to also disable Vertical Sync in both SP and MP.

Also, the reason one should strive for as many FPS as possible (60+) is not only does the game run smoother - especially, in MP - But it is much healthier on the eyes (higher refresh rate is ALWAYS more healthier when playing video games) AND the more constant an image you have, it allows you to react faster since your brain isn't subconsciously trying to "fill in the missing pieces" of lower FPS.

andychip
06-14-2002, 04:32 AM
you lucky son's of......
im stuck with a pentium 2 400mhz!:mad:
my max frames i think ive ever had was 30-40(nvidia riva tnt...that's a 16mb video card!!!)i'm so alone

Pedantic
06-14-2002, 04:50 AM
Wow, I'm sorry. :D

Reiver
06-14-2002, 04:56 AM
SP anywhere from 80-200

MP anywhere from 40-85

1.1 Ghz AMD Athlon
64MB GeForce 2 MX400
384 MB DDRAM

1024x768
High for both

32-bit Texture Depth
16-bit other thing

Trilinear
V Sync off

Even though it is behind from most other people, it sure as hell gets the job done.

Daver Hacker
06-14-2002, 08:40 AM
Yep, the problem is the Voodoo isnt supported. In my experience, it can be quicker than a Geforce 2 MX (I have both), but in JK2 it is awful in comparison.

Use the Force - I always close programs before running, thanks for the info on your system, I am getting to the bottom of the JK2 performance issues now :D

Cheers everyone else. I should be getting the 1.2BHz chip soon, but with the Voodoo things will still look crap and run slow. In a month or so when I get some cash together I will go for a Geforce - its not just the speed of these cards - its the support for them which is making them look gr8 right now.

QuietSith
06-14-2002, 09:12 AM
If you use ICQ or Trillian while online (not sure about the other messengers) you'll get your bandwidth and CPU processes eaten up.

I have a p4 2.4 gig, 1 gig DDR, SB Audigy, GF 4 4600, etc.

I also have a DSL 1.5 mb connection.

Using those kinds of programs really hurt benchmarks and game performance - even in single player, which leads me to believe these programs hog up the CPU cycles for some reason.

Also, if you get low FPS .. it could very well be due to the server being overly strained and not able to update - often because everyone is using a really high rate setting.

If you want better FPS on a server that is crowded or seems to be getting hit pretty hard, try this:

shift ~ = console
rate 10000 = lowers rate, and may make your FPS jump up.

That's 10000 as in 4 zero's.

Ah Boon
06-14-2002, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by Reiver
SP anywhere from 80-200



what the..... 200?!?!?!!!!!

btw, in my case, it says GeForce2 MX 400 too but in the ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES menu, it only has a selection to choose what antialiasing mode u want and on the other tab, there is nothing i can do cause the fields are all unselectable(greyed out)

Reiver
06-14-2002, 01:16 PM
Yes, inside the Jedi Academy on Yavin.

Hmmm what do you mean? You click on additional properties, and you should get this.

http://mohaa.cact-sd.org/aasigs/nv.jpg

Right? Explain more and I will try and help.

normal
06-14-2002, 01:21 PM
You guys complain waaay too much, I get 10-25 FPS in 640x480.
Do I complain about that? No, because it really dosn't bother me. You guys should learn to appreciate what you do have.

Ah Boon
06-14-2002, 01:56 PM
ok, that is the exact thing that i have just then i only have 3D antialiasing settings and overlay controls

Ah Boon
06-14-2002, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by normal
You guys complain waaay too much, I get 10-25 FPS in 640x480.
Do I complain about that? No, because it really dosn't bother me. You guys should learn to appreciate what you do have.

its not that i dont treasure what i have, its just that i do not want to waste the money i spent on the video card and i want to get the best out of it.

Reiver
06-14-2002, 05:29 PM
Hmm... then you should probably get the drivers, here.

http://www.voodoofiles.com/6254

They just came out with new ones last week, but the link doesn't work, so these are the ones that came before those, and this should make those menus come up.

Ah Boon
06-14-2002, 09:20 PM
but i have drive ver 2942 already! it is the latest right? but the driver u ask me to dl is 2832. should i get 2832 or stick to 2942. i have win XP

Reiver
06-14-2002, 09:51 PM
If you still have the file, try reinstalling them. I didn't know you had XP. Hmm if that doesn't get the tab to come up, find the CD that should have come with the card, and try reinstalling those. If not, I dunno what to do.

Ah Boon
06-14-2002, 09:55 PM
reinstalling 2.8.3.2 didnt help :( now where did i put the cd.....btw, i am afraid that the driver that comes with the cd might be too old or unsupported by jk2. gotta try anyway :/

Steg
06-14-2002, 11:54 PM
XP is a right bitch when it comes to tweaking ur hardware
i got so pissed off with XP Pro for taking away all my control and doing it automaticly and it is so incredebly slow comapred 2 98 that i went bac 2 98 after less than a week

Steg

QuietSith
06-15-2002, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by Steg
XP is a right bitch when it comes to tweaking ur hardware
i got so pissed off with XP Pro for taking away all my control and doing it automaticly and it is so incredebly slow comapred 2 98 that i went bac 2 98 after less than a week

Steg

You went from a very stable platform to one that is generally not supported anymore.

Sounds like you needed some hardware upgrades if you needed to do 'that much' tweaking - imo.

Pedantic
06-15-2002, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by normal
You guys complain waaay too much, I get 10-25 FPS in 640x480.
Do I complain about that? No, because it really dosn't bother me. You guys should learn to appreciate what you do have.

Where'd ya dig up that old fossil? ;)

normal
06-15-2002, 12:49 AM
Originally posted by Pedantic


Where'd ya dig up that old fossil? ;)

If you mean my video card, it's an on-board piece of ****..

If you mean anything else, what are you referring to?

:jawa

Pedantic
06-15-2002, 01:15 AM
Yeah, I was talking about the video card. :D

Ah Boon
06-15-2002, 12:03 PM
i just got that nvidia refresh rate fix ver 1.12e. so, how do i use it?

Ah Boon
06-16-2002, 10:41 AM
^bump^

Ah Boon
06-16-2002, 11:32 AM
^bump^ again for one last time...

Daver Hacker
06-17-2002, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by normal


If you mean my video card, it's an on-board piece of ****..

If you mean anything else, what are you referring to?

:jawa


You cant really moan, your onboard video card was made for displaying games like Solitare and Minesweeper, not JediKnight 2.

I am not complaining, just comparing. :D

C'jais
06-17-2002, 09:22 PM
Just a question:

Why do everyone prefer to have an enormous resolution?

I run in 640X480 for multi and 800X600 for singleplayer, but I can't really understand these "resolution-junkies" who insist on running in the highest possible resolution.

To *me*, the difference is negligible and I can't be bothered to raise my res., just to see a decrease in FPS. Extremely silly IMHO.

Ah Boon
06-17-2002, 11:01 PM
i dun like tiny looking graphics neither so, i ran jk2 on 800x600 because it feels good. btw, call me a wuss but i actually enjoy playing jk2 in window mode so that my mom couldnt see me playing ;)

Jedi wannabe
06-18-2002, 01:34 AM
I get 20-25 no enemies and got to 5 with enemies and then 10 when outside 1 enemy I get 1 and you get the point.
This is on the fastest setting and I have a GeForce2 MX400,
It was the best I could get at the time and I only had little money at the time. I'm 13 live in the UK and was in a rush to get a new graphics card because i got JK2 the very first day it was out at a bout 9:30 am and I realised I did not have a sutible graphics card to play it.:mad: :(

Ah Boon
06-18-2002, 09:51 AM
jedi wannabe, u are lying arent u? its impossible to get fps of 5 with enemies. i have geforce2 mx 400 too and i get fps around 25 with 30 desanns or tavions!

mInk3nine
06-18-2002, 02:01 PM
p4 1.6@2.4Ghz, 256MB MushkinDDR CAS222, geForce3 ti200 128MB

i just ran a timedemo using the JK2FFA demo with , 32bit color-depth, 32bit textures, trilinear filtering, and shaders on, and anti-aliasing off.

1280x1024 - 99.1
1024x768 - 120.5
800x600 - 122.7

and thats with mirc and trillian logged onto aim, icq and yahoo msger, and 3 internet explorer windows open... heres what i got when i shut everything down...

1280x1024 - 101.5
1024x768 - 121.5
800x600 - 123.1

not a very noticable difference. so only if you have something under 1 gig i'd say close everything down before you play, otherwise its really not necessary...

deaded
06-18-2002, 06:52 PM
GeForce 4 4600
Asus A7m266-D with dual Athlon 1800+ MP processors
SB Audigy Platinum EX
1 gig ECC DDR 2100 RAM

Running multiplayer at 1280x1024 with V-sync on and hosting 2 or 3 players I'm getting FPS's in the high 90's on most maps. I've seen it drop down to the 80's but not below that.

Everything is turned on except EAX and trails.

Usually there are a few things going on in the background and I often leave some browser windows open, and an email client but I think that the other processor keeps those under control.

Reiver
06-18-2002, 09:12 PM
Originally posted by cjais
Just a question:

Why do everyone prefer to have an enormous resolution?

I run in 640X480 for multi and 800X600 for singleplayer, but I can't really understand these "resolution-junkies" who insist on running in the highest possible resolution.

To *me*, the difference is negligible and I can't be bothered to raise my res., just to see a decrease in FPS. Extremely silly IMHO.


I for one, use higher resolutions, because since I got a big monitor, at higher resolutions, the game runs faster than in lower due to the refresh rate.

-=[M@ximus]=-
06-18-2002, 09:50 PM
T/bird 1gig
640 Meg ram 133
GeForce 2 MX400 (64meg)
KT7 M/B
1024x768
Win XP

i get on average 20-40 but i would love too boost this if you can help

if anyone knows where to find that thing, where you can alocate Ram to JO, or anything else please let me know
i have Sync off, Colour set at 16 and Texture set at 32
i just done the seta com_maxfps "100" just too make sure :)
umm
cant think of anything else :o

give us a hand i would like if poss too make it too at least 40-50 i would be happy at that, never mind those 90+ gits :P

cheers

Deetox187
06-18-2002, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by Reiver



I for one, use higher resolutions, because since I got a big monitor, at higher resolutions, the game runs faster than in lower due to the refresh rate.

No game runs better in high resolutions than it does in lower resolutions, the higher you go the more video bandwidth you use up.

mtrixman
06-18-2002, 11:06 PM
where can i download 3d mark?

Ah Boon
06-18-2002, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by -=[M@ximus]=-
T/bird 1gig
640 Meg ram 133
GeForce 2 MX400 (64meg)
KT7 M/B
1024x768
Win XP

i get on average 20-40 but i would love too boost this if you can help



hello max! I hope wut i am gonna tell u soon might help. look at my sig and u will know that my system is similiar to urs except the RAM and the processor. I get and fps around 60-80 fps averagely on MP and 80-100fps in single player. Here are my configs:-

Video Config

800x600 res
16 bit colours
32 bit textures
TRILINEAR
Shades On
and the rest set to high

More video Config

VSync Off
The rest on.

thats all for my system config and btw, i turned on EAX too.

Originally posted by mtrixman
where can i download 3d mark?



Ya can get it from madonions.com

mInk3nine
06-19-2002, 02:18 AM
http://gamershq.madonion.com/download/?3dmark2001.shtml

Jedi wannabe
06-19-2002, 02:29 AM
Don't beleive me. I'll get some screenshots as soon as possible.

mtrixman
06-19-2002, 02:41 AM
what was the command to show fps again? i forgot

Homosexual Ewok
06-19-2002, 03:47 AM
For those of you who did not play Quake 3 or are not too familiar with the Quake 3 console I suggest going here for the basics:

http://keen.gameadmins.com/variables.html

And here:

http://keen.gameadmins.com/commands.html


For tweaking and high performance go here:

http://keen.gameadmins.com/tweaking.html


99% of that stuff still applies to Jedi Outcast. Even though I run a high performance machine, I still do a little tweaking so that when I do end up in a server with 30 guys running around blasting everything in sight I maintain a high frame rate with 0 slow down.

Ah Boon
06-19-2002, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by mtrixman
what was the command to show fps again? i forgot

the command is cg_drawfps 1 and jedi, read my last past cause it says sumthing about configuring ur res and stuff like that so that ur gf3 can get kick a.s.s. fps

UseTheForce
06-19-2002, 11:34 AM
Eh.... I'd much rather run the game at high resolution, color depth, and texture quality and get mediocre framerate than have jaggy, low-quality graphics with flat colors and have high framerates. As long as I can keep it at 30 fps or higher, I'm happy- like I said, when you watch television you're seeing 30 fps, and it's never been a problem.

Oh, and I have a question- what, exactly, is VSync?

mInk3nine
06-19-2002, 02:17 PM
watching a television, watching your grandparents old 8mm movies, and playing a rendered game are totally different, those rules don't exactly apply when it comes to jedi knight, quake, or any first person shooter. I know i know, the human eye can't see past 60 frame rates a second, but the difference between 60 frames and 90 or 125 frames in relation to the games we play are huge. our eyes may not be able to pick it up, but our computer's hardware can most definetly vouch i'm sure.

Ah Boon
06-19-2002, 08:53 PM
i have this really weird OT dumb and downright stupid question. if i get average of 70-80 fps, will I reach 120fps in q3 or other q3 engine game? i think jk2 is different cause raven really tweaked its engine to the max and well, its a processor and ram w.h.o.r.e. so, wut do u guys think? is there a time demo or something from q3 that i can download to test my fps?

i know, i might sound wierd but i am really happy with my system and wants it up to max. did i mention that my whole pc is black :) :D ;)

mInk3nine
06-21-2002, 06:25 AM
definetly. i get 211 frames using the timedemo four.dm_66 in 1024x768. in jediknight knight i get half that, so that just proves how much the quake3 engine has been tweaked to suit jediknight

XERXES
06-21-2002, 09:09 AM
BTW, what is the command to check your FPS, i kept askin in one game but people said stuff and it never worked.:confused:

Ah Boon
06-21-2002, 09:41 AM
type in cg_drawfps 1 into ur console

XERXES
06-21-2002, 11:11 AM
aite, ill do that sometime later...danke;)

and btw, i was told at least 3 or 4 other ways to do it...no wonder it never worked:mad: