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Manquesa
06-17-2002, 11:55 AM
Ok, I know there's already 2 available on jedioutcastmaps but as I said before I think mine will be better. I still have a lot of work to do yet but i'm very pleased with the results so far. Check it out here -- http://www.webspawner.com/users/manquesa/S1.jpg

I plan on mapping a full interior including the cockpit and I will make both Boba and Jango versions.

DividedByZero
06-17-2002, 11:59 AM
Looks nice, how close it is to completion?

Manquesa
06-17-2002, 12:05 PM
Who knows. I have little spurts of progress every now and then. I work long hours so I have little time to do this, plus i'm also working an a SP map and i'm even thinking about starting work on a CTF map, not to metion that I have many more prefabs that I plan on doing. But i'll keep ya'll updated.

volrathxp
06-17-2002, 12:05 PM
looks good so far Manquesa!

VIO
06-17-2002, 09:57 PM
i don't think people are making the prefabs large enough! look at the movie the ship was pretty big (enough room to fit crago and two people at least), nit that has anything to do with yours it look really good why not make it a Slave II

Wes Marrakesh
06-17-2002, 10:33 PM
about the post above...
Actually ther IS a slave II in the EU. It is a completely diff ship so aybe you could call it slave III?:fett:

VIO
06-17-2002, 10:35 PM
opps forgot wat i ment was testure it dif and and some cool stuff since theres already two prefabs of the same ship out

Manquesa
06-17-2002, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by VIO
i don't think people are making the prefabs large enough! look at the movie the ship was pretty big (enough room to fit crago and two people at least), nit that has anything to do with yours it look really good why not make it a Slave II

Actually I was worried that I was making it too big. Look at the pic, that little red box you see the is the info_player start. That should give you an idea of how big it is compared to the player. I just found some more pics of the cockpit though for me to use as a reference for making the interior and now I am thinking I should make it just a tad bit bigger, but not much really. However I don't think I want to redo the whole thing just yet, I might try playing with the scaling function of radiant but I have a feeling that's just gonna screw things up.

edit: And actually there's at least three seats in the cockpit section and I know there's supposed to be 6 cages for holding prisoner's plus living quarters and a locker in the rear section

Manquesa
06-17-2002, 10:56 PM
Ok, I just tried the scale function of radiant and it worked. Very surprisingly to me, it didnt' mess up a thing, not even my patch meshes. So I now made it slightly larger but not that much, i'm mainly concerned about having enough space to make a good looking cockpit.

Adarin
06-17-2002, 11:01 PM
Here's a shot of Boba next to Slave 1:
http://www.synicon.com.au/sw/slave/exterior.gif

Looks like ya got it about the right size.

And here's a design of the interior, I think it might help. (I think the cockpit is wrong, but, this is a design from before Episode 2.)
http://www.synicon.com.au/sw/slave/interior.gif

Good luck, I was gonna do Slave 1 but yours is looking great! Can't wait for you to finish. :)

Manquesa
06-17-2002, 11:12 PM
SWEEEEET, thanks, those pics are great. That just changed my whole thinking of how i'm gona do the interior.

VIO
06-17-2002, 11:31 PM
yeah it would be great to accaully have a prefab that has a decent inside an not just a scarue room my istake you did get the size pretty good excellent pictures...do you have some like that for a snow speeder

Adarin
06-18-2002, 12:04 AM
Glad I could help.
I got the pics from http://www.synicon.com.au/sw/ < --- this site. I based my Outrider inner designs off of it, although I only did 1 main room, like in Shadows of the Empire..
Doesn't look like it has any snow speeder pics. :( I think it only has the more unique ships. If I run across anything like that for the snow speeder, I'll let you know.

Manquesa
06-18-2002, 09:48 AM
UPDATE!

new screens
http://www.stormpages.com/manquesa/slave1.htm

http://www.stormpages.com/manquesa/slave1b.htm

http://www.stormpages.com/manquesa/slave1c.htm

I still have a lot of texture work to do as most of these textures are still temporary.

Most of the exterior however is done. I just need to make the wings, redo the guns on the tail, and reshape the base a little.

And of course I still need to do the interior.

Jango_Fett91
06-18-2002, 09:55 AM
pretty tite!Good work;) ! What program did you use? Cause i wanna make a Sith Infiltrator.:)

Grets Sirob
06-18-2002, 10:39 AM
Daaaang. That's awsome! Oh, and Jango, he's using jk2 radient. I know for sure, he said it was a prefab. Which is different from model.




:gungan: Mesa stupid!

Manquesa
06-18-2002, 11:21 AM
btw, that last pic was to show how big the interior is. It's big enough that you can walk around inside the tail all the way to the end and you don't even have to crouch.

Grets Sirob
06-18-2002, 11:28 AM
Shhweeet.




:gungan: Mesa stupid!

Jango_Fett91
06-18-2002, 12:22 PM
Howd you write a screenshot without bringing down the console?????:confused:

Jango_Fett91
06-19-2002, 09:23 AM
Hello?:confused:

Grets Sirob
06-19-2002, 09:56 AM
Type in:
bind (a key) screenshot silent

That'll do the trick!




:no bantha smily either jk2.net: *bantha call*

VIO
06-19-2002, 11:18 PM
great job it will be great to see a model ship with a good inside try, o please try and make the inside like the real ship :)
keep up[ the great work

Manquesa
06-19-2002, 11:52 PM
Ok guys, I need thoughts and opinions on this, i'm trying to figure just how I should do the cockpit on this thing. I have pics from the movie so I know how to make it look but the thing is, because of the nature of Slave 1 i'm not exactly sure how I should position it in the ship.

There's differences in opinion i'm finding out about whether this thing has a rotating cockpit or not. If I put the cockpit facing out the window like it should be when it's in flight mode then all the seats and everything will be facing up toward the sky. But I want to be able to walk around in the cockpit, just not on the walls.

And the movie doesn't quite match up with any diagram that i've seen of the interior of the ship. In the movie, there is 3 seats, one in front and 2 right behind the first one, kind of a triangular layout. But in all the diagrams I see, there is one seat by itself which is the pilots seat, and then in another section there are 2 passenger seats by themselves. Maybe Boba made more drastic changes to the ship than I thought.

Also, I plan on make the interiors for Boba's and Jango's ship different. I know Boba's should have 6 prisoner cages, but should Jango have prisoner cages as well or what.

Any other ideas would be appreciated, thanks.

Oh, and I am thinking of maybe doing a rotating cockpit type thing and just making it a func_pendulum moving slowly to alternate between the flight and landed positions, but the more and more I think about it's not sounding like such a good idea.

Manquesa
06-20-2002, 04:18 AM
hey cool, the forums back up now, after about what, 5 hours of downtime. Anyway, anybody got and thoughts or suggestions, huh?

Grets Sirob
06-20-2002, 05:51 AM
No, but I can offer my full support(if that's worth anything to you lol)




:wookiee: Raaarwwaag!

Manquesa
06-20-2002, 07:33 AM
awww, that just makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

:thrawn2: :slsaber:





:slave:

Grets Sirob
06-20-2002, 07:49 AM
Originally posted by Manquesa
awww, that just makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

:thrawn2: :slsaber: (<-----I seriously don't get this)
LOLHow 'bout if I give you more?
Here you go!:duel: :lsduel: :lightning :saberb: :saberr: :saberg:
Yep, my support is different then yours, hehe...





:wookiee: Raaarwwaag!

Wes Marrakesh
06-20-2002, 08:13 AM
pendulum= bad.
How you do the cokpit depends on how you do the rest of the ship. For instance, is this one boba's or jango's? and are you going to do the rest of the interior? I know that jango's version does not have a rotating cockpit from the movie because boba would't fave been facing up when he got in the seat.
or would could do your own version and do it how you think it should be

Jango_Fett91
06-20-2002, 09:15 AM
Hes doing both Jango&Bobas ship:)

Manquesa
06-20-2002, 01:30 PM
Current status is --

Exterior: 90-95% complete excluding the wings(if you want to call them wings) and textures
Interior: 5-10% complete
Textures: 5-10% complete

Latest Screens --

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/7099d0bb/bc/My+Documents/__hr_s1c.jpg?bc0cXE9A3z0Stuc_

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/7099d0bb/bc/My+Documents/__hr_quiet.jpg?bc0cXE9AWJFgXbb1

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/7099d0bb/bc/My+Documents/__hr_shot0002.jpg?bc0cXE9AGLomOiIL

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/7099d0bb/bc/My+Documents/__hr_shot0004.jpg?bc0cXE9AOTlmQgGc

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/7099d0bb/bc/My+Documents/__hr_shot0005.jpg?bc0cXE9APDtZYH5F

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/7099d0bb/bc/My+Documents/__hr_shot0007.jpg?bc0cXE9AcBjr2lJ.

pud1
06-20-2002, 01:43 PM
Hey those look great
Personally i would have the seats facing up(like in a rocket or space shuttle)

I guess i could go find ya some slave 1 cockpit images :D

Jango_Fett91
06-20-2002, 01:45 PM
Can you make the guns on the slave one controllable? (I mean the ones jango uses by his cockpit)

Manquesa
06-20-2002, 01:57 PM
pud1: Thanks, I think I already have plenty of pics from episode 2 of the cockpit but if you find some I don't already haven\ then please post them. Oh, and no, i'm not gonna do the rotating cockpit thing. The seats wil be facing straight up.

Jango_Fett91: I don't know how to do that. If I could believe me I would. If anybody knows please e-mail me, aim me, or pm me. Although I think it might only be possible in SP, but like I said I don't know.

Jango_Fett91
06-20-2002, 02:06 PM
oh ok.

simarilius
06-21-2002, 12:39 AM
dont know how helpful you'll find it but this is what the ILM model used in the effects shots for the original movies looks like

http://membres.lycos.fr/simarilius/pics/magic_slavecpit.jpg

as for wheter hes making boba or Jangos, its the same ship, starts off as jangos, he dies, becomes bobas.
and i agree, the majority of sources indicate no rotating cockpit.

kenad
06-21-2002, 12:56 AM
Looks great.

Accordint to the 'Incredible Cross Sections' Book, the cockpit rotates, but that book is pretty dodgy and makes the ship the size of an X-wing!!! (Exaggeration:rolleyes:)

Good work

Jango_Fett91
06-21-2002, 01:44 AM
its not the same thing. The cockpit on jangos is on the opposite side.:slave:

Manquesa
06-21-2002, 05:46 AM
Similarius: Thanks for that pic. Yeah that'll help alot, especially being ILM.

Jango_Fett91: What do you mean Jango's cockpit is on the opposite side, got any pics to illustrate.

Jango_Fett91
06-21-2002, 06:59 AM
picture




P.S. Just testing. And how do you post pics without putting a link?

Manquesa
06-21-2002, 07:07 AM
well, untill they turn the IMG code on here, you're gonna have to post a link.

Jango_Fett91
06-21-2002, 07:13 AM
http://images.google.com/images?q=slave+one+cockpit&ie=utf8&oe=utf8&hl=en



Compare the cockpits.

simarilius
06-21-2002, 07:23 AM
Jango_Fett91: its definitely the same ship, check the starwars databank @ http://www.starwars.com/databank/starship/slavei/index.html

it says
"The battle-worn vessel was originally owned and piloted by Jango Fett, who passed on his impressive skills to his son, Boba. Boba Fett piloted the Slave I when he pursued the Millennium Falcon from the Anoat system to Bespin shortly after the Battle of Hoth."

Manquesa, thought these might help,
http://www.secondreality.ch/gallery/personal/g1/slv1front.html
http://www.secondreality.ch/gallery/personal/g1/slv1back.html

the 3ds mesh those renders are of is on sci-fi 3d as well.

Jango_Fett91
06-21-2002, 08:39 AM
Oh ok sorry to even bother.

Jango_Fett91
06-22-2002, 07:50 AM
ManQuesa Anythin new?

Manquesa
06-22-2002, 09:26 AM
Sorry, but i've been busy with work lately. Tommorrow is gonna be another long day for me. Maybe Sunday i'll have time to work on it more, expect my next update either Sunday night or Monday.

Jango_Fett91
06-22-2002, 10:37 AM
Ok

Grets Sirob
06-22-2002, 01:34 PM
Can't wait to hear from ya!
If you get it out in time, I may put it into my hydroball map, H2O Octarena.
That's if you get it out in time, if not, well, tough toenails!




:wookiee: Raaarwwaag!

Manquesa
06-22-2002, 08:11 PM
Well when do you think you'll have your map ready, Maybe I can give you what I have at the time, fair warning though, it's big. If I ever get those damn stabilizer fins made (wings?) then the exterior will pretty much be finished (Boba's version). However it'll probably be a while before any real progress is made on the interior.

Oh and thank you Simarilius for that pic you posted of the Slave 1 model a few posts back, I contacted the author of that model and got permission to use his textures for it, although I haven't tried them out yet so I don't know if they'll convert well.

Grets Sirob
06-23-2002, 03:38 AM
I won't need it real soon.
And I don't need the intorior, just the exterior.




:wookiee: Raaarwwaag!

Manquesa
06-25-2002, 03:23 AM
UPDATE:

exterior -- 97% complete
interior -- 10 - 15% complete
exterior texturing -- 80 - 85% complete
interior texturing -- 5 - 10% complete

New Screens:

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/7099d0bb/bc/My+Documents/__hr_slv1d.jpg?bcR93F9A8oRVSjVW

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/7099d0bb/bc/My+Documents/__hr_shot0016.jpg?bcR93F9AVnjuce.Y

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/7099d0bb/bc/My+Documents/__hr_shot0015.jpg?bcR93F9ApmU5xCm9

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/7099d0bb/bc/My+Documents/__hr_shot0014.jpg?bcR93F9AQL2idvfJ

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/7099d0bb/bc/My+Documents/__hr_shot0013.jpg?bcR93F9AAgl7x3YS

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/7099d0bb/bc/My+Documents/__hr_shot0012.jpg?bcR93F9AjG2uqWux

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/7099d0bb/bc/My+Documents/__hr_shot0011.jpg?bcR93F9ARFOXagNw

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/7099d0bb/bc/My+Documents/__hr_shot0010.jpg?bcR93F9A6h1Xd7pR

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/7099d0bb/bc/My+Documents/__hr_shot0009.jpg?bcR93F9AxrPKjlYz

simarilius
06-25-2002, 03:43 AM
glad to see those pics were helpful, those textures are sweet. Looks really good in game, cant wait to see what people can do with it.

Jango_Fett91
06-25-2002, 04:42 AM
Those ****in Damn ass pics wont WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!






























































































































:mad:

Grets Sirob
06-25-2002, 05:16 AM
I too am in the not ability to be in the knowing of the how to be in the making of the pics to be in the working of(translation: they don't work for me either.).




:dangit jk2.net, make smilies for the ranks!: Grrarroooaaar!!!

Manquesa
06-25-2002, 11:26 AM
Sorry guys, don't know what to tell ya, except to look at my other thread here -- http://forum.jedioutcastmaps.com/viewpost.php?fid=2&id=677

Grets Sirob
06-26-2002, 03:37 AM
Um, I still can't see them...




:dangit jk2.net, make smilies for the ranks!: Grrarroooaaar!!!

VIO
06-26-2002, 03:42 AM
they worked fine for me

Jango_Fett91
06-26-2002, 07:29 AM
I still cant see them.




































































































































































































This sucks. DID I just waste a whole bunch of space? I am so sorry!:rolleyes:

Manquesa
06-26-2002, 09:06 AM
Well i'm using yahoo to post these pics, not the greatest server to use. Let me try and get them up on another server so you can see them, sorry. However the last set of screens I posted before that were also with yahoo and nobody seemed to have any problems then.

Anyway , give me a few minutes.

Manquesa
06-26-2002, 09:31 AM
ok, try this -- http://www.stormpages.com/manquesa/slave1.htm

Wes Marrakesh
06-26-2002, 09:51 AM
THE GOOD
The model
Especially the red body texture
THE BAD
I think there is z-fighting (overlapping brushes) on the wing tops
I think the cannons need to be bigger and longer They look like they will snap right off
THE UGLY
How big is it? I want to put it in my hangar

Darth Knight
06-26-2002, 09:56 AM
Hey me and my firends are going to make an sp level and we think we are going to incorparate Jango Fett in it so i was wondering if we could use your slave 1 when you are done

thanks

Manquesa
06-26-2002, 10:01 AM
THE GOOD
The model
Especially the red body texture
actually, the red body textures, are the worst part right now IMO, they won't line up right, I think i'm gonna have to make new textures for that, the body textures look good though


THE BAD
I think there is z-fighting (overlapping brushes) on the wing tops
I think the cannons need to be bigger and longer They look like they will snap right off

no, there's no z-fighting, I just need to fix the texture. And I think I have the right length for the cannons, just need to make them a little bit thicker though.


THE UGLY
How big is it? I want to put it in my hangar

I hope you have a very big hangar, because this ship is pretty big. Look at the in-radiant shot and you'll see the red box that is the info_player start. That should give you an idea of how big it is compared to the player.

Manquesa
06-26-2002, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by Darth Knight
Hey me and my firends are going to make an sp level and we think we are going to incorparate Jango Fett in it so i was wondering if we could use your slave 1 when you are done

thanks

yeah of course, i'm gonna release it for everyone to use. Although i'll probably release Boba Fetts version first, because I still need to make the textures for Jango's version and that may take me a little while, but if you can do textures all you'd have to do once you get the Boba version is retexture it yourself, that is if you don't want to wait for me to get that one out.

Jango_Fett91
06-26-2002, 01:03 PM
Thanks Manquesa, They work now. Sorry for How i acted. I gave the Thread a Rating of a TEN for you.:)

Manquesa
06-26-2002, 09:25 PM
Somebody got a really nice Jango version out now here -- http://www.jedioutcastmaps.com/file.php?id=332. There's no interior for it yet, but it's very nicely done.

Grets Sirob
06-27-2002, 01:19 AM
I don't care, I want yours:thumbsup: :D
Not some cheap imatation...



No, just kidding, it looks good. But I really would rather wait and see how yours turns out.




Hmm, 8 people, I'll need 8 ships. I have, let's see here, the queens ship, the outrider, this one, I wonder where lando's is...

I could always use some models, but I don't really want to...

Hmm, I could make one too...


What? Oh, dang your still here, I was just thinking out loud, sorry...


Oh, and the pics are great, I can see!




:trooper: Hey, you there!

Jango_Fett91
06-27-2002, 01:33 AM
The one on jedioutcastmaps.com i cannot see.:mad: :(

Jango_Fett91
06-27-2002, 01:35 AM
Wait never mind now i can see that slave one. Its rocks, but not as much as yours manquesa!:D :cool:

Manquesa
06-27-2002, 01:54 AM
I downloaded that Jango one, and it looks good to me, he did a very good job. There's a few minor things about his that I don't like (mainly the ramp (where is it, it's in the movie?). Can't wait to see it when he get's the interior done. As soon as I get my Boba version finished i'll release that one and send it to jedioutcastmaps then i'll work on making the changes for the Jango version, the main thing about that will be making the textures for it, I want it to look good. He's got good textures but I think they can be made better, i'm still learning to make them though so wouldn't count on mine being that great either but im gonna try.

But at least for the time being there will be good versions of both out and available for download, Jango's - his, and Boba's - mine.
My Jango version will come later.

Manquesa
06-29-2002, 10:04 AM
I just wanted to announce (if anyone cares) that i'm not gonna do the Jango version of this ship. The one that Stamper is doing is very good (the one on jedioutcastmaps) so i'll just finish my Boba Slave 1 and that'll be it for me. I've talked to Stamper a few times, sent him some reference material to look at for the interior, I know his final version is gonna be sweet. Besides progress has been very slow for me lately, it would be forever before I would finish my Jango version. For now I just want to focus my work on Boba's ship. I'm working on makng some custom textures right now for it. This is my first attempt at my own custom textures though, but what I got so far ain't half bad IMO. I'm gonna try and have most of the interior work done by this time next week. I'll post more screenies then.

So anyway, if you want a good Jango Slave 1 for your map, look for Stamper's prefab, and if you want a good Boba Slave 1 for your map, look for my prefab (coming soon, hopefully). Both will feature a full interior.

Grets Sirob
06-30-2002, 01:54 AM
:(
:ball:




:sithm: You will die, painfully.

simarilius
06-30-2002, 03:07 AM
i found his attitude quite refreshing, rather than saying his is crap I'm gonna do better, hes acknowledge hes done a good job, helping him make it better with an interior and the small details like the ramps and saving his time and energy for new challenges, kudos to him for it.

sim

http://members.lycos.co.uk/simarilius/

Manquesa
06-30-2002, 10:01 AM
Originally posted by Grets Sirob
:(
:ball:




:sithm: You will die, painfully.


ugh! Ok, i'll tell you what. Once Stamper has released his final prefab for the Jango ship and I release mine for the Boba ship, download them both. Then if you still think me making a Jango version would be necessary, and more importantly if I do, then i'll go ahead and make it. But I think you'll be plenty satisfied with Stamper's prefab.

Grets Sirob
06-30-2002, 10:08 AM
*sniff*
Okay...
*starts crying again*




:joreth: May the force be with you.

Jango_Fett91
07-01-2002, 01:38 PM
LOL

Grets Sirob
07-02-2002, 06:58 AM
Any progress:D?
*hopes that there is*




:joreth: May the force be with you.

Manquesa
07-02-2002, 12:10 PM
I wasn't gonna post any updates till later this week, but since you asked.

I kinda got a little side tracked. I downloaded gmax the other day and have been learning how to use the program. After getting about half way through the tutorials I decided to try my hand at modeling the cockpit chair and console to use for my Slave 1.

Here's what I got so far, keep in mind that no texturing what so ever has been done yet and this is my first attempt at modeling.

http://www.stormpages.com/manquesa/boba.htm

And don't expect it to look like the cockpit as seen in episode 2, although this is the same ship a lot of time had passed since then and Boba obviously made many changes to it. If it's still too inaccurate for you then you can call it Slave 2 instead of Slave 1.

I also made (in Radiant, not gmax) the prisoner cages to put in the ship but I don't have any screenies of that yet.

Other than than I haven't done anymore work on the ship yet as most of my time has been spent learning the modeling program.

I am planning on, if it turns out alright, modeling the pilot cockpit chair and controls, the passenger cockpit chairs and controls, extra rockets for the backpack (he's bound to keep a supply of rockets somewhere in that ship), and the backpack itself, maybe even the helmet. And I might even decide to make the prisoner cages as models because i'm not too sure if I like the one's that I already made in radiant.

All this modeling of course will make it take longer, especially since i'll still have to make the clip brush prefabs for them when i'm done making them, but oh well. Maybe i'll go ahead and release it soon without the interior, and then re-release it later when the interior is finished as this may take a while.

Grets Sirob
07-03-2002, 03:47 AM
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!




:emperor: I shall rule the galaxy.