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Grets Sirob
06-21-2002, 05:31 AM
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MP
Hydroball(HBA)
GTKRadient
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I thought I'd start this thread for a hydroball arena I'm making. No screens yet, you may have to wait for jom.com(when I send it in...). But, it should be done soon. Here's a description:

Shaped like an octagon(hence the name), this arena is a large tube, about the size of the origanal map, but taller. You enter from the sides(not above the goals, on the side of the map). If your simply watching instead, you have the choice between the observation deck(one floor above the entrance area) and has a glass wall, all the way around. The other option is (below the observation deck) several private veiwing boxes. The beta-testers(if any) will get their own personnal box(with their name on it:D) You like the idea?


I do...

But that's just me...




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DividedByZero
06-21-2002, 05:34 AM
Sounds awesome, I'll b-test for you if you do the same for me. We can release our maps in a pack :).

Grets Sirob
06-21-2002, 05:36 AM
Hey, yeah! That'd be cool! And you'd get your own private box too! I'll e-mail you, can you set up a server? It's not a big deal, it would just make it easier as my current server is having problems(for some reason, we can't see him)




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DividedByZero
06-21-2002, 05:43 AM
No for some reason I have problems setting up a server, I'm useing a router and I think that's why.

Grets Sirob
06-21-2002, 05:45 AM
Hmm, that's ok, I'll try to sort out the probs with my current server(I can't either, firewall)


In the meantime, what do all you other Hydroball fans think?




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alienprotein
06-21-2002, 05:54 AM
I ask becuse I will have my server back up after we recompile a new Kernel. A day or so.
I would be running tests onmy map as well, so if you wanna run them on my srv that would be cool. Im outa job at the time, and here almost all the time. So I could add your map's to my test rotation. and we could do private testing. email me @ thecellclan@microsith.com

DividedByZero
06-21-2002, 05:56 AM
Well that's great news! Luckily these maps shouldn't be hard to make (useing their custom entities shouldn't be that hard). I might be finished in 2 days.

Kranckor
06-21-2002, 07:11 AM
I'll beta it for you too :D That would be so cool to have your own Private box :D

Grets Sirob
06-21-2002, 07:27 AM
I actually have about 4, possibly more beta-testers, I'll consider you though. But first, you have to tell me what you think of the map.
Progress report:
I've made the actual arena part, but it's not textured yet, and there's no light, and most of it(even the visible part) is caulked. I think I've added the water properly, but I'll have to test it first.

Tell me what you people think.




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Epimetheus
06-21-2002, 10:01 AM
I would gladly beta for you...

I have past experience now. :D

Kranckor
06-21-2002, 10:21 AM
From the way you describe it I think it will be the coolest Hydroball map coming out! :D

Grets Sirob
06-21-2002, 10:30 AM
Thanks Kranckor! And you can help beta. Give me your e-mail's and I'll get you in!




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Kranckor
06-21-2002, 10:32 AM
Yeah it's tobar1p@yahoo.com

Kranckor
06-21-2002, 10:34 AM
You have AIM if you do my name is Kranckor

Grets Sirob
06-21-2002, 10:38 AM
I have no aim, I have msn.




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fourwood
06-21-2002, 11:53 AM
How do you add the custom entities without the entity definitions file for Radiant?

Grets Sirob
06-21-2002, 11:57 AM
It's in the readme for the mod.




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Kranckor
06-21-2002, 02:32 PM
Grets what's your Msn info ?

normal
06-21-2002, 02:37 PM
I can publically beta test your map if you like.. AFAIK, I run the most popular Hydroball server right now :)

Galactic Magi
06-21-2002, 02:47 PM
ill beta test for ya, ive already found TONS of bugs in the normal map cuz i cant go online yet and i have alot of free time this month. It would be fun for me too, i like discovering bugs in stuff. SSJCloud@aol.com email me if its okay

Galactic Magi
06-21-2002, 02:52 PM
this map sounds great i really like the idea of the non-accessible port, it will give a feel that you really are in a building, not just on some floating square.

Kranckor
06-21-2002, 02:52 PM
Most popular..........is that the one that allows 16 people!? that's the one that I want to get in but can't :( oh and what's that link you have there?

Galactic Magi
06-21-2002, 03:19 PM
im getting my cable modem in like two days so ill be able to go online and play

Galactic Magi
06-21-2002, 03:30 PM
Oh, also if you want a reference i was a beta tester for the mod The Hunted before it temporarily shut down.

normal
06-22-2002, 01:46 AM
Originally posted by Kranckor
Most popular..........is that the one that allows 16 people!? that's the one that I want to get in but can't :( oh and what's that link you have there?
Yes, I run The Hydroball Arena. :D

Kranckor
06-22-2002, 02:05 AM
Grets what is you msn info?

Grets Sirob
06-22-2002, 03:30 AM
Kranckor, I've been sleeping, that's why I haven't been answering.
Anyway, I'm not sure what you mean by "msn info"
If you mean my name, it's Grets Sirob(yup, that's it, it's universal)
And I'm on right now. Also, what do you mean by:
Originally postedby Kranckor
oh and what's that link you have there?

As for you other people:

Normal: I do't want to publicly beta-test any of my maps, they will be private tests.

Magi: I'd be happy if you could test, do you run a server? I'd also like it if you could spray my map bug-free. I know I'm not perfect(wish I was lol:D) and I could use some help. Heck, you'd get your own private viewing box! Sweet huh? Glad you like the idea of a non-accessible area. I think that's what's wrong with all these maps, there's literally no where else to go. It's better to have a map where it seems like there are other areas, but you can't go there. Anyway, I'll e-mail you. Thanks!

I'll continue on with the map today...




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Galactic Magi
06-22-2002, 03:39 AM
Really? Thanks id love to.

Galactic Magi
06-22-2002, 03:41 AM
i dont run a server though but i could probably do it on my brothers computer

Kranckor
06-22-2002, 03:43 AM
No grets :rolleyes: you have to give me your msn e-mail so I add you to my contacts and I was asking normal about that link.

Grets Sirob
06-22-2002, 03:45 AM
Kranckor? Did I e-mail you? I'm feeling forgetful today...

And my e-mail for that is i_muf_reak@hotmail.com
Don't spam me.
And what link are you talking about?




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Kranckor
06-22-2002, 03:54 AM
On the evil won't run for me server that Normal has a link in the name

It's incoherent I know :D

pud1
06-22-2002, 04:14 AM
I've been playing in your sever normal all day and yesterday

It's real fun
Hydroball owns!!

normal
06-22-2002, 04:35 AM
Originally posted by pud1
I've been playing in your sever normal all day and yesterday

It's real fun
Hydroball owns!!

:cool:

Grets Sirob
06-22-2002, 01:24 PM
I like Jenga's server better. Of course, now that's a private clan server. And I'm in it so :p
Anyway, I finished texturing the interior of the arena(I haven't started on the outside yet) And I added some light shaders(I think so...)
But when I played it, the light shaders weren't working. There was no light! Why not?!?!?!


And, I'm changing the name. It's now the newly formed H2O hydroball team's main arena. Thank you for your time.




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Galactic Magi
06-23-2002, 02:00 PM
thisll be done in like 3-5 days right?

Grets Sirob
06-24-2002, 05:56 AM
Maybe, if someone helps me with my light shaders.
I've pretty much finished the interior of the arena, but I still have light to add. And I also have to make the outside of the arena(the accesible areas, and the non-accesible areas)




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Wes Marrakesh
06-24-2002, 10:29 AM
if i understand correctly...
you are using a light shader supposedly emits light or it looks like it should. If so, 1) is it custom? 2)In one of RichDiesal's tutorials he talks about shaders and says there should be a line in the script that says x
check if your shader's script says that.
could i squeeze in for the beta? i can be a very good bug-finder and i am picky!
too bad you can't make people go
oomph!
GLUG
GLUg
GLug
Glug
glug
*glug*
*death frfom drowning*
or they come out to fast and go
:explode:
from too much nitrogen in the lungs.
:lol: nm

Galactic Magi
06-24-2002, 10:53 AM
yeah.........thatd be dumb since this is hydroball not a duel

Galactic Magi
06-24-2002, 10:59 AM
no offense

Grets Sirob
06-24-2002, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by Wes Marrakesh
1) is it custom?
No it isn't, I have no idea how to make them, and I can't do squat with any graphics program.
Originally posted by Wes Marrakesh
2)In one of RichDiesal's tutorials he talks about shaders and says there should be a line in the script that says x
check if your shader's script says that.
Er, I don't know how to do that, I can give you the texture I'm using though...
Originally posted by Wes Marrakesh
could i squeeze in for the beta? i can be a very good bug-finder and i am picky!
Umm, I'm very sorry, but I have a whole team of testers now. Since I joined H2O, sorry:(. I might be able to have you test Mimban Temple though, I have a couple others, and I don't wnat to let them down by saying, "You can't test, I found others"
So if you want to test for my Mimban Temple levels, great!
Originally posted by Wes Marrakesh
too bad you can't make people go
oomph!
GLUG
GLUg
GLug
Glug
glug
*glug*
*death frfom drowning*
or they come out to fast and go
:explode:
from too much nitrogen in the lungs.
:lol: nm

:lol: LOL




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Kranckor
06-25-2002, 12:22 AM
Bumpety bump bump bumpety bump bump...Look at thready go!

Grets Sirob
06-25-2002, 05:06 AM
Thanks Kranckor(Tobar, right?)

Anyway, so it doesn't seem like another bump, I've done some more work on it.

1. I've made it the right size(it didn't look big enough, so I used the scale thing and made it larger) Dang it was hard to make my textures fit again, lol.
2. I've changed the arena quite drastically(at least I think so)
Instead of having it have straight walls, like this:
[ ]
It now has walls like this:
'_
/
|
\_
Get it?

What do you think?




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Kranckor
06-25-2002, 08:16 AM
I like cheese
Mesa liken da cheesen! :jarjar:

normal
06-25-2002, 08:32 AM
Like this?

http://hba.tproc.org/wip/shot0000.gif

I had been working on a map.. but gave up because I hate shaders.

:)

Grets Sirob
06-25-2002, 08:40 AM
Not quite. It's actually flipped. It looks sorta like that from the top.
See?
I'm also working on it right now. Gonna try and get the outside done now...




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Wes Marrakesh
06-25-2002, 09:17 AM
k thx for the offer grets, i'll prob test anymap i can if it doesn't f^ my comp :lol:
Ok... can you give me the shader's name and i'll do a little digging?
Wes

Grets Sirob
06-26-2002, 03:32 AM
Shader name...
Hmm, let me go check...






...Tracklight, tracklight_glow, tracklight3, and tracklight3_glow.
All in the "Cairn" texture set.

And also, is caulk suppose to look like the no-shader thing(grey and white grid?)?

Plus, how the heck do you get glass to work? Explain it in noob terms please. I want a glass thing like in "waterball" How would I do this?

I've finished the arena, and I'm moving on to the outside. No light yet, I want to use shaders. I have the exits, but they don't lead anywhere, yet. I can't seem to get glass to work though...


Also, I'm sorry, but beta-testing is closed now. If you wanted to test for this map, I'm sorry, but you won't be able to. If you would still like to test a map, I can always squeeze you in for Mimban Temple...




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Wes Marrakesh
06-26-2002, 03:41 AM
U're Oi'll do 'ee Temple 'ere!
'aybe 'ee could do oi' skyscrap'r 'evel
BTW that was mole-speak
hm...
texture the entire brush in glass and put a textured brush in it... it looks like z-fighting but you'll still see both brushes and you WON'T get a leak...i still need sky box help and please vote in the poll
sorry hd to say that
hope that helps
Oi'll be 'round
Wes

Grets Sirob
06-26-2002, 03:58 AM
Originally posted by Wes Marrakesh
U're Oi'll do 'ee Temple 'ere!
'aybe 'ee could do oi' skyscrap'r 'evel

Umm, what?!
Originally posted by Wes Marrakesh
hm...
texture the entire brush in glass and put a textured brush in it... it looks like z-fighting but you'll still see both brushes and you WON'T get a leak

Umm, what?!




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Darth Knight
06-26-2002, 04:03 AM
i like the overall idea of the map

Grets Sirob
06-26-2002, 04:12 AM
Thank you very much, glad someone likes it :D.




:trooper: Hey, you there!

Grets Sirob
06-26-2002, 06:17 AM
EEEEEEEKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Sparklies!!!! NOOO!!!! GET AWAY, GET AWAY!!!!


AAAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!



How do I fix this! Help!!!! Sparklies! No!!!


Well, having said that...



How do I get glass to work?


And, caulk still isn't working.

Xcom? Could you help me? Please?




:trooper: Hey, you there!

Wes Marrakesh
06-27-2002, 01:21 AM
sparklies are z-fighting (overlapping) tuextures. To fix, don't have overlapping textures. If it is behind a bevel, clipp 2 brushes BEHIND the bevel and caulk them.
BUMP


Can't you read molespeak? it's not THAT hard... :lol:
neway it says
Sure, I'll do you temple there! (beta test it)
Maybe you could do my Skyscraper level. (beta test)
i'd talk like the hares but that is even harder to type
even if easier to understand
:sprobe:

Grets Sirob
06-27-2002, 01:39 AM
Wes, I did clip them, BUT I STILL GET THEM!!!!!!!
Why:ball:?!?
Why:ball:?!?!?!?!




:trooper: Hey, you there!

Wes Marrakesh
06-27-2002, 03:41 AM
i wanna take a radiant screenie to show you what i mean grets but i can't cause i don';t know how :(

Wes Marrakesh
06-27-2002, 05:56 AM
Sorry, Grets, but the textures you were complaining about do not emit light. I checked their shader scripts. Not every shader does anyway. You can pick another texture or add lights right next to the track (what i did it looks good).
Sorry
Wes

Grets Sirob
06-27-2002, 06:59 AM
Darn, oh well, I'll have to figure out which ones do.
Oh, and I've done more work on the observation deck, it now goes all the way around. It's still not done though...



And could you direct me to the place in GTK where you can find the skyboxes? I couldn't seem to find them...




:trooper: Hey, you there!

Wes Marrakesh
06-27-2002, 09:13 AM
1) I use JK2Radiant, not GTK
2) In the skies/ texture group. Make normal brushes then texture them with the sky you want and it draws the skybox.
I think, i'm confused myself...

Grets Sirob
06-27-2002, 09:15 AM
I've checked the skies/texture group. I need a GTK user to help me, xcom?

Thanks for trying anyway.

Will be getting back to the map soon, I just need to do some work first(blech! :p )




:trooper: Hey, you there!

Grets Sirob
06-30-2002, 02:08 AM
I tried to get to the map, but I didn't feel good yesterday, so I didn't do much.

I might have, however, found out why my water isn't working, I'll try it today...




:sithm: You will die, painfully.

pud1
07-01-2002, 05:46 AM
Anyone know why i can't find anyones hydroball servers ANYWHERE?

I had Normal's server on favorites and now its gone away

I WANT TO PLAY HYDROBALL!!!!!

Galactic Magi
07-01-2002, 07:28 AM
same here the only one i ever saw was normals but it dissapeared after a while and since theres only 16 people allowed and i never see any other servers im never going to be able to play

normal
07-01-2002, 07:39 AM
Originally posted by pud1
Anyone know why i can't find anyones hydroball servers ANYWHERE?

I had Normal's server on favorites and now its gone away

I WANT TO PLAY HYDROBALL!!!!!
My server had to be shut down due to problems out of my control. :mad: :(

Wes Marrakesh
07-01-2002, 11:24 AM
any results grets? i hope you figure it out...
ANYONE KNOW I GOOD HYDROBALL SERVER THAT ACTUALLY RUNS???

Kranckor
07-01-2002, 12:37 PM
Whaten problemos isa dat Nowmal? :jarjar:

Grets Sirob
07-02-2002, 06:56 AM
K, I'm finally back(after two days...)

Pud, Magi, Normal, and Wes:
Stop spamming ok, if you want to bump, just bump, no spam.
Spam is evil.


Anyway, I got water to work, to some extent...

I can see the texture, but as for actually swimming?
No, it's solid water, and it's animated(as in, not ice:D).

Can any GTK user help me?
I can't figure out how to get it to work useing Rich's tut's:(.




:joreth: May the force be with you.

pud1
07-02-2002, 07:01 AM
were not spamming
your demented! :mad:

Grets Sirob
07-02-2002, 07:10 AM
Not spamming eh?
Then explain this:
Originally posted by pud1
Anyone know why i can't find anyones hydroball servers ANYWHERE?

I had Normal's server on favorites and now its gone away

I WANT TO PLAY HYDROBALL!!!!!
Originally posted by Galactic Magi
same here the only one i ever saw was normals but it dissapeared after a while and since theres only 16 people allowed and i never see any other servers im never going to be able to play
Originally posted by normal
My server had to be shut down due to problems out of my control.
That has absolutley nothing to do with this topic. And all things irrelevant to the topic are considered spam.
If you were bumping, I thank you, but next time try to do it without spamming...




:joreth: May the force be with you.

pud1
07-02-2002, 07:30 AM
thats usefull information and has to do with hydroball
and if u finish ur map one day and put it on a server, and noone can play it or find it then you would want to know why wouldn't you?

and i was pumping from the 3rd page!!!

Wes Marrakesh
07-03-2002, 12:23 AM
sorry grets :D
as for the water...
That's why I use JK2Radiant:p

Grets Sirob
07-03-2002, 03:55 AM
No more spam...



I tested my glass yesterday(my solid, non-ice water prevented me from testing it), and it still didn't work.
However, I think I just realized what I did wrong, I'll try today...




:emperor: I shall rule the galaxy.

Kranckor
07-03-2002, 07:14 AM
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Grets Sirob
07-11-2002, 02:08 AM
Don't want to search through three-million pages to find this...
No work yet though.

I'M SORRY!!!!




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Wes Marrakesh
07-11-2002, 08:35 AM
find what?:confused:
i'm glad this thread was saved from a page other than the first
:lol:

Galactic Magi
07-11-2002, 11:52 AM
please dont tell me this map will dissapear from existence like the pit of carkoon map. I really wanted to beta test this

Lucko Mabri
07-11-2002, 12:57 PM
hehe. i made the pit of carkoon dissapear! i was the one who bought up the thread of close pit of carkoon down! MWUHAHHAAHH! Moving along....... i also hope this doesnt turn into one of them either :D

-Lucko Mabri

Kranckor
07-11-2002, 02:15 PM
I talked to Antilles he says he's scared to post, so I suggest someone make a thread saying sorry.

Lucko Mabri
07-11-2002, 03:13 PM
I think he shold be scared after he put us through months of turmoil!

-Lucko Mabri

Galactic Magi
07-11-2002, 09:17 PM
antilles should just tell us if he wants to not make the map then we dont have to keep guessing. Make him send it to someone else so they can finish it if he doesnt want to

Kranckor
07-11-2002, 11:13 PM
He put it on hold just to torture you guys because you wouldn't leave him alone, and I applaud him for it :P

*CLAP CLAP.....* AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH:dozey: :swear: :swear:
:smash:
:wornout:

Grets Sirob
07-12-2002, 06:31 AM
Oka-a-a-a-ay....

Back on topic here...


I have(partial) success!
I reinstalled gtk, and suddenly I have a whole lot of new textures, and they actually work right!
Not to mention that...
MY GLASS IS NOT OPAQUE ANYMORE!!!!!
YAY!!!!

Anyways, as for the water...
I have a partial success.
You see, you can actually swim in it now(great huh?).
But the problem is, it might as well be mud. The water shader I'm using obviously isn't going to work for hydroball...
I'll try a bespin water..

So, please, no more spam!!
If there's nothing to talk about, just don't talk about anything! :mad:




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