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Dephier
06-22-2002, 11:55 AM
at least the model for the game does :)

Darth Ball
06-22-2002, 01:32 PM
thats only for mp
but they could make him like ughnaught size

Lunatic Jedi
06-22-2002, 02:19 PM
No, ugnaught would still be too big. Yoda's only about two feet tall, but boy, can he kick da ass with a saber.

SaberPro
06-22-2002, 02:21 PM
This could be something Raven could include in the next patch...

A server option to make all models the same height (Duel, FFA...) or different height (RPG)...

Sounds good eh? :)

Darth Ball
06-22-2002, 02:35 PM
yes but they wouldnt be able to make him so small in mp because of the disadvantage

SaberPro
06-22-2002, 02:39 PM
It's like Jaws vs. Obbjob in N64 Goldeneye :)

jarek
06-22-2002, 02:40 PM
blah blah blah.

another yoda model thread..oh wait no one has released a yoda model yet. instead theres just a flood of teaser screenshots. theres been many other skins released, is there a reason the yoda skin is taking forever for skinners to make? or are they just being bastards and holding out on people? one day when people are sick of jk2 and move on to other games (which has pretty much happened to me), perhaps the yoda skin will be released.

Caliadar
06-22-2002, 02:42 PM
Actually they could have him short if his bounding box's were set to normal size. The problems would come from the person using the model trying to aim with the saber which would have to be in the same place as a full sized model (although perhaps invisible) with a dummy saber at yoda height. I personally think he should just scrap this model, its not gonna happen in a game like this with melee combat, if it was guns only there would be no problem.

[RAA]-=Chi3f=-
06-22-2002, 02:54 PM
I think the Yoda model is a good idea. If you don't like it, get off your butt and show us what YOU can do!

The hit box could be a head shorter. Backstabs would still do the same damage, only it'd be through his wrinkled little face. I say go for it and if you don't like it, then don't dload it.

SaberPro
06-22-2002, 02:56 PM
I don't think Yoda should be able to do backstab nor backsweep..it's not his style lol

CapNColostomy
06-22-2002, 05:07 PM
Leave it to the JKII community to start bitching about something that's absolutely free. "Yoda's model sucks! Or SuXoRs or whatever "ghey" net catch phrase aplies." Man, it's that attitude that's going to stop people from bothering to make models, maps, skins, etc... for this game. I know if I had the intelect and patience to make models for this most ungrateful community, I would NOT. Stop sniveling. Play the game and like it or lump it. If you can make a better model, go for it. I'll use it. And I'll be thankful for it. Modelers for JKII, you phuqers "RoXoR" or whatever "ghey" net catch phrase applies. In other words, despite what these nimrods say, some of us appreciate you. Keep up the good work.

Arco
06-22-2002, 05:37 PM
hmmmmmm. All I can say is that I spent weeks on the skin. If this is what most people are going to say -"it's **** neh neh neh" then you can go and **** yourselves. I know that the guys are having trouble getting him ingame. they are doing the best they can.... so just shut up. If you can't give constructive crit then don't give any at all.

I think the main problem is that is head is too big and he is little too hunceh over. Once that is sorted I think it will look much better. As for the size issue... in sp he will be perfect but for multiplayer it is not gonna happen anytime soon. At least we tried and didn't just sit on our arse complaining at everything.

Arco:deathstar

Darth Ball
06-22-2002, 05:44 PM
i think the model and skin both kick super monkey arse!
i will download it as soon as it comes out
it is definatly the best model and skin ever!

[RAA]-=Chi3f=-
06-22-2002, 06:08 PM
I agree with Darth Ball

but you forgot the Silly monkey

:monkey4:he he he

CagedCrado
06-22-2002, 07:06 PM
Right now your yoda looks like shrek with pointy ears, but its not your fault. When i got jkII i hoped i could have cool characters like mace windu and yoda like i had with jk1 and sbx, but now we had to keep mp like single player raven whines...... they probably didnt have time to put in cool characters and they knew yoda wouldnt be done in mp ever, how cheap is that?

Oh well, you did a good job on the skin, if the head was smaller and you could shrink the body to the correct height then itd be a very good yoda skin, not that it isnt already a good skin, it just not yoda. I think this is also what the other people said but in their own stupid way.

SeraphimII
06-23-2002, 12:51 AM
Wha Wha Wha! That yoda skin suxs. Why could they make it the same height. As the original yoda. I'm not going to do anything drastic, like getting off my own butt and making a b8r one, but I'd just like to say the model that they worked long and hard on for suxs.
[/whine]



Anyway, I love it keep up the good work guys.

BlackDeath-CFH
06-23-2002, 12:54 AM
i dont know why but i think having a small yoda would be cool, playing with freind to try and kill him would be fun, because hed be impossible to hit and he would kick your ass =D

Kurgan
06-23-2002, 01:29 AM
Be that as it may, at least it's a good start until we can figure a way (hopefully) to get him to his proper size in MP...

Maybe Raven could help us out?

ThirdGenRX7
06-23-2002, 01:35 AM
he would be smaller and harder to hit, but his saber would also be shorter so he would have a harder time hitting you. it would be interesting if raven made a model height to saber ratio so if you wanted a smaller character the saber would shrink also to give you a disadvantage? for example if yoda was doing a backstab you could just stand over him and hit him over the head w/ a heavy swing while being safely outside of his range.

Dalhectar
06-23-2002, 07:15 AM
Yall are all wrong. Yoda is oversized due to MP coding itself. In MP all the models are balanced to the same scale. In SP Yoda will be 3 feet as normal.

Deetox187
06-23-2002, 09:59 AM
I'm no expert but theres got to be a way. Take WLS (wired lamp studios) for instance, they are coding their entire coop mod with the mp code (sp code not released), so if they can get all those sp aspects working in mp maybe there is hope for yoda too. Either way the model looks great and i would love to have it whether he is big or small. :)

Reverse
06-23-2002, 11:44 AM
dont complain about the game, play it and have fun, and if u cant, dont play it at all.

SeraphimII
06-23-2002, 01:06 PM
Maybe there could be a new variation of the Jedi Knight game mode, but this would be Jedi Master.



Take an entire team of jedis(with limited force powers) vs a 3-foot tall yoda that swings faster, does more damage, and has more powerful force then every1 else. When someone kills yoda they become him and the old yoda goes plain old jedi.

/me thinks that would kick ass

Solo4114
06-23-2002, 10:26 PM
Actually, while I realize the MP game has its own coding restrictions and forces all models to the same height, it wouldn't be a problem to have a Yoda/Ugnaut sized model in the game.

Yes, he'd be harder to hit because he's smaller, but you could correspondingly modify certain things for the model. The jumping height could be limited to 2x/4x/8x the size of the MODEL. The sabre length could be proportional to the model. If memory serves, Yoda's sabre is more like an oversized dagger, or would be in the hands of a regular jedi. By doing things like this, I think that you could effectively balance out the advantages of having a smaller model with corresponding disadvantages.

Rogue74
06-24-2002, 02:47 AM
I agree. Nothing against the modeler, more against Raven, it's goofy not to have different sized characters in mp. I don't want to see a giant mutated Yoda! We also have a beautifully done stunted Wookiee. I think it would be great if Raven fixed that.

icefox98
06-24-2002, 03:43 AM
If your so much better than everyone here, why do you keep posting and whining and complaining about Jedi Knight II? I think Ive told you this many a day ago, (maybe you recall). Stop playing Jedi Knight II if you dont like it. Stop posting on these forums.

NOT in that order mind you.

Understand? I sure hope this can get through to you.

P.S. Your a whining, bitchy little loser with a massive infierority complex, who SHOULD GET A ****ING LIFE. I havent been on these forums for about a month, and all i see is posts from Jarek still, whining and bitching. In your own words, MOVE ON.

GO FIND ANOTHER GAME. GO MUTILATE EVERY PIXEL OF A BAD GUY IN SOLDIER OF FORTUNE 2 FOR EXAMPLE.

Thank you for your time and concern. Good day to you.

The Count
06-24-2002, 04:01 AM
Ok I admit I don't like the yoda model it does look obese and not Yoda like however remember in the original JK when you had to fight Pic? Wasn't that cool! they should make him small like the original screenshots! just make him able to jump as high as everyone else like in the film isn't that the whole point of fighting as Yoda your so skilled you can afford to jump around? like he did when he royally whipped my ass!

Emon
06-24-2002, 05:13 AM
Originally posted by jarek
blah blah blah.

another yoda model thread..oh wait no one has released a yoda model yet. instead theres just a flood of teaser screenshots. theres been many other skins released, is there a reason the yoda skin is taking forever for skinners to make? or are they just being bastards and holding out on people? one day when people are sick of jk2 and move on to other games (which has pretty much happened to me), perhaps the yoda skin will be released.

Maybe, just MAYBE the authors are trying to make it good? Making a model isn't *click click click* All done! It takes work, and a lot of time, and making a good skin is also difficult. Also, ever consider the fact that the authors have LIVES and don't just sit around all day on their PC trying to be your slave and release Yoda in two days? How about you stop bitching? It's the author's choice to make the model, you should be lucky you're ever able to download it.

jarek
06-24-2002, 08:36 AM
Originally posted by icefox98
If your so much better than everyone here, why do you keep posting and whining and complaining about Jedi Knight II? I think Ive told you this many a day ago, (maybe you recall). Stop playing Jedi Knight II if you dont like it. Stop posting on these forums.

NOT in that order mind you.

Understand? I sure hope this can get through to you.

P.S. Your a whining, bitchy little loser with a massive infierority complex, who SHOULD GET A ****ING LIFE. I havent been on these forums for about a month, and all i see is posts from Jarek still, whining and bitching. In your own words, MOVE ON.

GO FIND ANOTHER GAME. GO MUTILATE EVERY PIXEL OF A BAD GUY IN SOLDIER OF FORTUNE 2 FOR EXAMPLE.

Thank you for your time and concern. Good day to you.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH!!! flame on my son!

jarek
06-24-2002, 08:40 AM
Originally posted by Emon


Maybe, just MAYBE the authors are trying to make it good? Making a model isn't *click click click* All done! It takes work, and a lot of time, and making a good skin is also difficult. Also, ever consider the fact that the authors have LIVES and don't just sit around all day on their PC trying to be your slave and release Yoda in two days? How about you stop bitching? It's the author's choice to make the model, you should be lucky you're ever able to download it.

Emon, if you havent realized, I dont care anymore. And I wasnt bitching, I asked a question. Seems to me that youre the one doing the bitching. Take your own advice and just stop.

SeraphimII
06-24-2002, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by jarek

blah blah blah.

another yoda model thread[/qoute]

Bitch...

..oh wait no one has released a yoda model yet.

Bitch...

Instead theres just a flood of teaser screenshots

Bitch...

theres been many other skins released, is there a reason the yoda skin is taking forever for skinners to make?

Bitch...

or are they just being bastards and holding out on people?

Bitch...

one day when people are sick of jk2 and move on to other games (which has pretty much happened to me), perhaps the yoda skin will be released.

Bitch...

And I wasnt bitching

Liar!

I asked a question.

You asked two. Two questions in a very bitchy tone.

[qoute]Seems to me that youre the one doing the bitching.

Now I'm bitching about bitching. This, of course, will bring on you to bitch about my bitching about your bitching, but when you bitch about my bitching I won't bitch back because then this thread would have a bitch overload and it will become a never ending torrent of bitchity.

Yay! I've now had a thread with the word bitch in it twenty times.

jarek
06-24-2002, 10:50 AM
SeraphimII,

wow, with all that crap you quoted, where do i begin to respond? i could quote you, then quote you quoting me and then respond (wow im confused now), but ive got better things to do. and i really dont care to make a mile long thread. somewhere you missed the sarcasm in my original post and took it as bitching. so now youve made yourself look stupid by flaming someone that wasnt even being serious. nice one :)

Emon
06-24-2002, 11:51 AM
SeraphimII, that is SO true.

And there IS such a thing as complaining, which is different from bitching. If you're complaining about something, you're doing it nicely. If you're bitching, you're being mean and selfish in the process.

SeraphimII
06-24-2002, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by jarek
SeraphimII,

somewhere you missed the sarcasm in my original post and took it as bitching. so now youve made yourself look stupid by flaming someone that wasnt even being serious. nice one :)

Dude if you want sarcasm add sum smiles OR don't act like an ass in most of the thread you post, and maybe YOU made an ass of yourself by missing the light nature of my post!

Bum--Bum--Bum-----Bum!

Or maybe I made an ass of myself by saying I was just being sarcastic to respond to when you suddenly pulled out of your ass the you were being sarcastic to recover from being more of an ass. In which, you who has better things to do then whore some game's forum which you say you've moved on from, will then do you best to make me look like an ass, BUT since I am really just playing with you you will indeed look...like...an...ass.



Woot! I typed ass 8 times in this post!

asdfasdldkc
06-24-2002, 01:30 PM
I appreciate any and everything modelers/skinners make, cause I know even if I knew how to do it I probably wouldn't. And I think the model looks great. Hope everything turns out good :)

jarek
06-24-2002, 02:12 PM
so uhm, this thread was orignally about the yoda skin till icefox (assfux) turned it into a flame war.

topic: yoda looks like an obese cow

Discuss!

CapNColostomy
06-24-2002, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by jarek
so uhm, this thread was orignally about the yoda skin till icefox (assfux) turned it into a flame war.

topic: yoda looks like an obese cow

Discuss!

right...You're STILL here?

SeraphimII
06-24-2002, 07:18 PM
See your sig cap'n...