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BlueSenateGuard
07-29-2001, 08:08 AM
Wait a minute, did they say EVERY civilization would have Jedi Knights? I have a bad feeling about this. . .:eek:

Tie Guy
07-29-2001, 11:18 AM
They may have human jedi's that help them out. Like ones that are sent to them by the Jedi Council for their defense. Still, a Gugan jedi would be an interesting unit.

Darth_Rommel
07-29-2001, 11:45 AM
In the Galactix Battlegrounds Preview #2 it said there are 3 levels of jedi: padawan, jedi knight, and jedi master. The gungans probably have just padawans or something, definetly not masters;)

hallben
07-29-2001, 11:55 AM
Explain to me why there should be no big eared, lethery skined, fat assed Jedi Masters? :p

Tie Guy
07-29-2001, 02:43 PM
Yeah, why couldn't the Gungns have jedi masters?

Darth_Rommel
07-29-2001, 03:37 PM
Because. :mad:

IwantGBGnow!
07-29-2001, 04:28 PM
Meesa gonna bring PEACE To da galaxee! Feew the wrath of meesa wightsaba. Sith lord? How wude!

Clefo
07-29-2001, 04:35 PM
Lets not get into Sith Gungan

Sherack Nhar
07-29-2001, 04:38 PM
Only the Trade Federation and the Empire will have Sith warriors instead of Jedi.

I don't see why Gungans shouldn't have Jedi Masters. They are not clumsy like Jar Jar. Imagine Captain Tarpals with Jedi Powers!

Tie Guy
07-29-2001, 05:08 PM
Captain Tarpals is cool anyway. I hope he'll be a hero character.

anyways, It just wouldn't be fair not to give them jedi masters, that would be totally unbalanced if they did that.

alfred_the_ewok
07-29-2001, 05:14 PM
Gungans would make good jedi because they are in tune with nature.

Tie Guy
07-29-2001, 05:24 PM
Hmm, that's a good point. I never thought of that before.

But then why is the jedi coucil on Coruscant, where there is only metropolis?

Boba Fett
07-29-2001, 05:39 PM
Hey, if Gungans did have lightsabers would they have organically grown shells on them? That would be cool and it would give Gungan Jedi a whole new look. Just a thought.

Boba Fett
07-29-2001, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by Tie Guy
Hmm, that's a good point. I never thought of that before.

But then why is the jedi coucil on Coruscant, where there is only metropolis?

Of course the JEdi Council has to be on coruscant, because coruscant is the center of the galactic republic. The Jedi if they want to help the galaxy have to have their council in the very heart of the galactic republic.

Tie Guy
07-29-2001, 05:52 PM
Well, Luke made his accademy on Yavin, not Coruscant, even though he had the same goals as the original Jedi Order.

Boba Fett
07-29-2001, 07:11 PM
Good point Tie Guy. It probably doesn't matter too much where a jedi temple is located, as long as its not as remote as Dagobah or Tattoeine.

Wedge
07-29-2001, 07:17 PM
The temple is very natural inside with gardens and fountans and all that stuff and I think Gungan Jedi Masters would be cool.

Darth_Rommel
07-29-2001, 07:25 PM
But if there are Gungan Jedi, they would have to go to the temple to be trained. Thats were Obi wan and Quigon were trained and they didn't know what a gungan was.

Boba Fett
07-29-2001, 07:31 PM
Sorry that I'm such a natural know-it-all, but maybe there weren't any Gungan Jedi during Qui-gonn or Obi-wan's lifetime. After all the Gungan campaign takes place before Episode one. And there are alot of species in the Galaxy, so what two people can keep track of them all?

Kuma
07-29-2001, 07:39 PM
Gungan Jedi. Wookie Jedi seems a bit weird to me. In any case never saw any in the different Star wars books.

But why not? Could be kind of cool

Tie Guy
07-29-2001, 07:42 PM
Greetings Wedge.

Good point, i heard that the gungans campaign was also partiallyafter the movies as well, so they could easily have gotten some after they were made known to the galaxy.

Also, who can keep track of all the Jedi studnets. There were so many students no one could keep track, not even yoda. Plus, Qui-Gon and Ob-Wan probably didn't visit the training facilities all that often, they were past that stage already.

Compa_Mighty
07-29-2001, 09:25 PM
Lowbacca, Chewbacca's nephew was being trained by Luke.

I don't see why Gungans wouldn't have Jedis, after all they have midichlorians, and The Force speaks through the Midichlorians. :D

Tie Guy
07-29-2001, 10:04 PM
That's true, doesn't every living thing have midichlorians. After all, "Without the midichlorians, life would not exist." --Gui-Gon

Compa_Mighty
07-29-2001, 10:20 PM
Everything except the Vong. If we're already speaking of these guys in an expansion, that would be a great idea.

Vongs without Jedi, and immune to Jedi conversion, though, they could be much weaker against other units. You know, the game's balance issues.

Tie Guy
07-29-2001, 10:48 PM
Yes, of course. But i don't know if making them weaker is the best way to balance them, since, if they were weak against blasters and stuff, they wouldn't really be vong,

Darth_Rommel
07-29-2001, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by Tie Guy
That's true, doesn't every living thing have midichlorians. After all, "Without the midichlorians, life would not exist." --Gui-Gon

Who's Gui-Gon?

Compa_Mighty
07-29-2001, 10:53 PM
Well it was just a thought, you can't make Vong strong against EVERYTHING.

Tie Guy
07-29-2001, 11:02 PM
Gui-Gon is Qui-Gon's brother, duh!

Compa, there are other handicaps besides decreasing power. An example is a greater cost, or a slower build time.

Darth_Rommel
07-29-2001, 11:04 PM
Oh silly me *giggles* :o :o ;)

Tie Guy
07-29-2001, 11:05 PM
It's okay, he's not very widely known. :D

Darth_Rommel
07-29-2001, 11:06 PM
*giggles*

Compa_Mighty
07-29-2001, 11:09 PM
That's true Tie, they could expensive and with slow creation times, such as The Byzantines in AoK

Darth_Rommel
07-29-2001, 11:11 PM
excellent! :D

Tie Guy
07-29-2001, 11:15 PM
Yes, now that we've solved that pesky problem we can move on to another problem.

Any suggestions?

Compa_Mighty
07-29-2001, 11:21 PM
Lol!!! Now, that we've finished, let's move to the Mon Cal.
I think they could be as strong as Gunagns in Water, as a matter of fact, the only ones who could counter gungans effectively in water.

BTW, we should copy some of the posts about the Vong to the Developer's forum, maybe there, Gaber, will read 'em

and we could really have this cool expansion we're talking about.

jigga
07-30-2001, 11:17 AM
I am not that good with matching names with faces.

FlyBOy
07-30-2001, 11:42 AM
jigga, the vong (full name: Yuuzhan Vong) are an alien species from out side the star wars galaxy. They appear in the New Jedi Order books (NJO series), the newest star wars book series to hit the shelves. The Vong are a warrior species, and they hate technology, they rely solly on biological things, which is pretty cool.

Darth_Rommel
07-30-2001, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by Compa_Mighty
Lol!!! Now, that we've finished, let's move to the Mon Cal.
I think they could be as strong as Gunagns in Water, as a matter of fact, the only ones who could counter gungans effectively in water.

Good idea! :D

Tie Guy
07-30-2001, 03:14 PM
Everything, has a counter in every category. Even though it seems like it wouldn't make sense, the trade federation are going to be just as powerful as the Gungans in the water, or the other way around for air.

Darth_Rommel
07-30-2001, 03:15 PM
Know-it-all! :mad:

Tie Guy
07-30-2001, 03:32 PM
It not my fault :D

Paragon_Leon
07-30-2001, 08:24 PM
bottom line is:

every civ has strong point
every civ has counter to certain strong point

Lucas arts will balance it

we'll see how it actually PLAYS

Ewok14
07-30-2001, 08:26 PM
I agree with Paragon_Leon it would be stupid if they unbalanced the Civs

Tie Guy
07-30-2001, 09:40 PM
not to mention unplayable.

Paragon_Leon
08-02-2001, 09:47 AM
it would be playable, but not nearly as much fun. the fun is in countering each other, learning strategies, relearning once someone figures out how to counter, etc.
and you never know how someone's going to play.

Tie Guy
08-02-2001, 05:45 PM
Actually, it would be unplayable, or at least unwinable if your opponent had a decisive atvantage over you.

Paragon_Leon
08-02-2001, 05:53 PM
unwinnable is the better term then. because you WOULD be playing it... :D
there's always a few civs that seem to have some tricks / unit-features that draws people to them in multiplayer-battles. AOK had Teutons like that.

Tie Guy
08-02-2001, 07:31 PM
I wouldn't know, but i've always liked the allies and NOD in C&C. Don't know why though, better units i guess.