View Full Version : Dessan too easy? *possible spoiler*

06-23-2002, 09:00 PM
I beat Dessan on my second try on Jedi difficulty...
Without the use of the force fountain...

Isn't Dessan kinda easy for a final boss?
Big letdown...

Fyyar was mutch harder.

Master Xavier
06-23-2002, 09:26 PM
ya I noticed that too. I find that theres to ways to fight Desann

1: where you try not to kill him to much and have a really long saber fight but end up getting your butt kicked :eek:

2: You go psycho and just kick the living sh!te out of him in three or four seconds :D

For some reason he's harder in The Ladder map if you reach him though :confused:

darth dragon
06-23-2002, 09:30 PM
WTF are you mad it took me way longer than two goes on Jedi you r so sad trying to make urself look good as it won't work as everyone knows it takes about 8 goes to do Dessan on Jedi.

06-23-2002, 09:33 PM
he definitly didnt fight as hard as with the first encounter

06-23-2002, 09:33 PM
On padawan skill he's easy, but not on jedi!! He's so tough. I think I've only beaten him like 4 times out of 50 on jedi :eek:. He's a lot better than Elite Force's boss at least :D

Master Xavier
06-23-2002, 10:06 PM
it took you 8 goes to kill him :eek: it seriously took me 3 tries as he was pretty predictable , and if you think im trying to boast about my skill then come and play me in a game of Jk2 and see how utterly terrible I am :D

Luc Solar
06-23-2002, 10:09 PM
One lucky swing is all it takes...

If you're lucky, he's easy.

Didn't know that you're supposed to lose 7-8 times before beating him, though... I must be dumb, 'cause it seems *everybody* knows that. :rolleyes:

06-23-2002, 10:30 PM
Yeah Fyrar and Tavion were a lot harder than Desann. All I did to kill him was knock one of those pillars over to crush him.

06-23-2002, 10:38 PM
wtf?? you only play on Jedi difficulty??? thats way to easy!!

You should try jedi knight, thats fun :p

06-24-2002, 03:10 AM
Blah! I beat him after 2 tries because i knew what to do...
Force pull him when he is out of force... Then he lands on his belly and you can whack him in the head. Then i force speeded around him and swooshed his back one or two times.

06-24-2002, 03:25 AM
i thoguht he was easy too i just jumpdown with speed and slashed him 3 good times and he fell dead i was so disapionted tavion was harder in a sense because you didn't have all your force powers or stances

Whakapapa..i noticed your signature...usual suspects right

darth dragon
06-25-2002, 01:10 AM
I thought fyarr was a right annoying basterd as he had that *****ing gay sheild.

06-25-2002, 05:29 AM
Try fighting him on Jedi Master, he's a real bitch.

Desann's health is rated at 500, Galak Mech's at 1,000.

I definatly agree, Galak was just too hard. I didn't really like the way you had to beat him, either. I've always thought those huge, lurking enemies like him should be out smarted, not out gunned. I thought you should have had to collapse the shield generator on him or something.

06-25-2002, 05:39 AM
For me, Galak and Desann have about the same difficulty...

Galak has a huge armor and a shield, but he can't use the force; nor can he run fast

Desann only require you to hit him a couple straight shots, then he's dead. No armor, but he's Force is really annoying...

I think I pushed Tavion off the cliff once... :)

06-25-2002, 05:58 AM
First time i fought tavion i did that.. she jumped up in hte air i put my saber away and force pushed 3 times and she fell of a cliff..sorta reminded me of indiana jones when the saberest waved his sword around and indi just shot him

06-25-2002, 06:34 AM
LOL i remember that hahaha

06-25-2002, 08:03 AM
more story on that is orginaly harrison ford was apose to have a big fight sceen but he just impravised and shot the guy.. the director liked it so much the desided to go with that

06-25-2002, 08:37 AM
He killed himself in my game. He did a running jump toward me and landed on my saber.


06-25-2002, 09:00 AM
Anyone who cant beat Desann in 5 tries on Jedi sucks. I got him on my 3rd try. I just switched to heavy, speedbursted, and whacked away. He threw his saber, i deflected it, so he was utterly defenseless as I cut him up. When speed ran out he lighting-spammed me so I just bacta-ed, then bursted agian and got him with one more hit. It took all of 30 seconds. Easy. Galak, on the other hand, was a huge pain in the ass.

06-25-2002, 09:10 AM
with speed its easy.. heres a challange beat him with out it :) and on jedi master

06-25-2002, 09:11 AM
Hah, no thanks.

06-25-2002, 09:19 AM
Desann really was too easy. I dont want to sound like a show off or something, but on Jedi difficulty i beat him first try. He was pretty tough at first, I had to use force heal once, then I pushed him over, stabbed him, fought for another few seconds, and then finished him with a backsweep. I'll admit that's kind of a lame way to fight (I dont use this method in MP) but the thing is it never worked on Tavion. It took me a zillion tries to kill her, she managed to stop all the force I threw at her. But Desann was frickin easy as pie I dont get it. Then my friend told me about the pillar, so i used saber throw, cut it down and bam he dies in the first minute. Any boss that you can beat in 1 shot by cutting down a pillar like that is too damn easy...

06-25-2002, 09:30 AM
Hmmm...it was the other way around for me. I finished Tavion off easily in one try, but it took a few tries to take care of Desann.

06-25-2002, 01:17 PM
Guess it's realy your skill with a lightsaber. I beat him fast, but some others may be better with guns (of course you know that it is almost impossible to use guns against Desann) so may we drop the subject.

Faye Ying
06-25-2002, 02:11 PM
padawan - easy first try
jedi - not too bad (no speed) 3rd try. probably luck as well haha
jedi knight - pushing it. 10th or something. i got lucky
jedi master - i hvaen't beaten desann yet on this. more than 50 tries.

only times i beat him on master was with saberreasliticcombat set on 3. so like 2 swipes with the saber he's done.

its completely unfair how he throws you around like a rag doll, and lightning spams you.

06-25-2002, 02:57 PM
I can't play JK2 but I gotta say, if you can kill a boss just by cutting down a pillar, then thats just pathetic for a final boss. But I would love to see that happen against Jerec.

Jerec: "You cannot defe......"

Pillar falls on him, game over.

But seriously, can you tell me how powerful Desann is comphered to Jerec? It'd give me a real good idea on how powerful he really is.

Faye Ying
06-25-2002, 05:24 PM
jerec was a hell of alot harder

and it took me a while to realize i could stop those facking statues from closing in on the force stream :o

JAtM Trev
06-25-2002, 06:00 PM
Desann is such a bitch. His grip is unbreakable. His lightning keeps you from doing anything except jumping out of the way. He's lightning proof (I dumped 20 pools of lightning on him) He's grip proof. He's throw proof. He's nearly push and pull proof. His push and pull are unblockable. He jumps on your head. Frack he's cheap. I play him in ladder though, so maybe that's it. I didn't even know about the force stream. I just kept going at it. I think it was like 8 times when I first fought him.

Tavion beat me a few times. Now she's easy. I was playing in a store once and getting frustrated. I cheated to get level 3 grip and push. I then tossed her in the air to end her life. I'm better with yellow now. I can't seem to push her off the cliff though. I really tried.

Galak was eaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasy. I don't understand why you guys had so much trouble. I didn't even know you could disable his shield. I just shot him till it collapsed, sabered him a bit. Then shot him some more. Repeat until dead.

OK I should sleep now.

06-25-2002, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by gonk-raider
more story on that is orginaly harrison ford was apose to have a big fight sceen but he just impravised and shot the guy.. the director liked it so much the desided to go with that

Although that is true, it isn't the whole truth. Harrison Ford had a pretty bad case of the flu that day, meaning he couldn't be running around much for extended periods of time without throwing up. So he spoke to Spielburg about it and they decided to change it around a bit. Although it was still intended to be won by hand to hand combat rather than with the gun. The gun was Harrison's idea that he thought up on the spur of the moment.

They had that on Muchmusic yesterday as he was to come on the station for an interview today (which i didn't watch).

06-26-2002, 10:39 AM
ha....desann? i killed him my 2nd try on jedi- he used saber throw, i rolled under it, and did a light lunge, it connected, switched to medium and did the finisher, landed on the other side and killed him with a heavy backsweep....looked pretty damn sweet...this was before i knew how strong those moves are, btw, not like i just intended to spam em... the third time i fought him i used dismembermet- he jumped, i activated my saber, his head landed on the blade and, well..

06-26-2002, 01:06 PM
i used force speed on galak, one or two swipes from the saber takes down his shield. with force speed on you can just sache around him and heavy slash his generator. in comparison to desann, desann is a hellavalot harder. sometimes he is such a grip lightning whore. i beat him in the first couple of tries since i took it to him. tavion's just a little b***h, because she talks too much s**t thus inspiring me to give her a cosmic arse whoopin. all in all, desann tough, galak not so tough (many methods to beat him) tavion whiny b***h.

06-26-2002, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by Faye Ying
jerec was a hell of alot harder

and it took me a while to realize i could stop those facking statues from closing in on the force stream :o

:D I never actually beat Jerec. I just kinda...skipped to the cutscene. Y'know, fast-forward. :D

06-26-2002, 02:19 PM
But the pillars would be useful if you couldn't be bothered with fighting Desann the old fashioned way. But if you want a real challenge, fight Jerec while on the dark side on hard. Jerec is ****en hard to beat then. :eek:

Faye Ying
06-26-2002, 04:00 PM
Originally posted by Pedantic
:D I never actually beat Jerec. I just kinda...skipped to the cutscene. Y'know, fast-forward. :D

i beat him several ways actually

1) old fashioned sabered him to death by also stopping the pillars and slowly draining his power
2) force speed (lasts a hell of a lot longer) force destruction and rail charges and concussion rifle to finish him off when he's running for the force stream

originally posted by (er, i forgot hahahha)fight Jerec while on the dark side on hard. Jerec is ****en hard to beat then
just kill him how i did. refer to point # 2

06-26-2002, 04:03 PM
Well, in my younger days, I wasn't nearly as patient as I am now. ;) :)

06-26-2002, 05:45 PM
I tried to beat Jerec as a darksider but he would always finish me off by this way.

Get my health down with a few lucky slash's, Force jump into the air, I'm saying "where the hell did he go?" just as he gets to the top of the chamber, finish's me off with a bolt of Force lighting or a blast of Destruction. I decided to stick with the light side with Protection and Heal on my side.

06-27-2002, 05:46 AM
Jerec was much toughfer, heck Yun was harder to beat that that loser!:mad:

06-29-2002, 10:09 AM
haha...omg...i just killed desann again...actually, i didnt kill him. he killed himself. it was a disgrace to the Vader skin he was using...

well there is a boulder in that battle area that he can pull (or push) and if it hits you its an instant kill. well he tried to use pull on me, the boulder went flying twords me, missed me, hit a pillar, cut straight through that, and the plillar landed ontop of him and killed him. i didnt take a single swing...

forceless jedi
06-29-2002, 10:49 AM
i dunno if u guys knew this but u can actually win him without touching him
i trained my mind trick to my strongest possible(used it whenever n wherever i can) n when i reached desann, i juz tried mind trick on desann n he was in my control juz like a normal stormtrooper.
i was surprised and i went to chop down the pillar which fell n killed him. guess the developers overlooked this huh.

06-29-2002, 12:28 PM
That would be cheating. You cant control someone with normal mindtrick levels.

So I guess you overlooked that huh

06-29-2002, 04:02 PM
This talk about using cheats reminds me of something that I did a while back. I'd like to state that I'm not one of those annoying hackers and only use them in SP after I've beaten the game 1 or 2 times. Heres what happened.

It was the last level in JK. The fight against Jerec had started and first of all I used the cheat to stop the Ai from attacking, I got a few stepps infront of the froze Jerec and then used the cheat to give me all weapons. I set 30 sequence charges a few stepps infront of Jerec, walked back to where the statue was and turned off the cheat that stopped Jerec from attacking. He started to walk towards me and...KKKAAA-BBBOOOOOOMMM. Jerec was blown skyhigh and it was all over. It was really funny since I had struggled really hard to beat Jerec the first few times around.

I always find something funny when I use cheats after I've beat the game.

06-30-2002, 01:51 AM
Hmmm. is it possible to train mind trick? i dont think so... it cant be trained to rank 4 or something... what do you mean forceless jedi?

06-30-2002, 03:39 AM
Desann is hard if you ever try spawning him (with cheats on, spawn npc desann) or fighting him in the ladder level (good map by the way, one of the first). He will force lightning you like crazy and do a REALLY CHEAP grip that can't be force push out of. Worse it takes like 40 health ponts off of you. Also once in awhile it does the backstab from MP! Yes that's right, he pulls you over and while you're getting up he backstabs you or he saber throw (it hovers over you) and if you're playing with g_saberrealisticcombat. Then you're dead...

Master Xavier
06-30-2002, 03:51 AM
actually he doesn backstab he has an ammazing nack of doing a lunge and turning at a 180 degree angle :eek: