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sights0d
06-27-2002, 03:57 AM
These are a couple of screenies of Gallandro, the gunslinger from the original Han Solo trilogy. If anyone has any suggestions, I'd appreciate it. I'm interested in two items of advice in particular:
1. Is it possible to get rid of the bangs only on the Kyle model?
2. Is it possible to add Jan's holster to it?

I'm pretty sure that there must be a way for #1, but I have extreme doubts about #2.

Screenshots:
Screen 1 (http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/25cf418e/bc/Sights0d/shot0000.jpg?bclVbQ9A6GCZihlt)
Screen 2 (http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/25cf418e/bc/Sights0d/shot0005.jpg?bclVbQ9Acfijuhuh)
Screen 3 (http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/25cf418e/bc/Sights0d/shot0010.jpg?bclVbQ9AOtLccpof)

sights0d
06-27-2002, 05:50 AM
Here's another screenshot. According to Han Solo's Revenge, Gallandro is notable for his handlebar moustache with gold beads woven in.Face (http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/25cf418e/bc/Sights0d/Gallandro_000.bmp?bc1kkG9Amlqhe102)

This shot was taken in modelviewer.

legameboy
06-27-2002, 06:10 AM
good skin, but needs more 'stuff' added to it:)

BradFu
06-27-2002, 06:34 AM
Looking good, but here's a suggestion: From what I recall of Gallandro in the books, his mustache actually droops down, rather than curls up. I would put 3 or 4 beads on each side, and have the tips of the mustachios droop down below the lips. I would also make only the sides of his hair grey, while the top and mustache would be black.

For his clothes, see if you can make them fairly ornate. I always picture Gallandro as wearing fancy, expensive clothes.

BradFu
06-27-2002, 06:37 AM
By the way, as far as your questions go, no to both. The only way you could do either is to edit the model. The bangs in his hair are part of the entire Head surface, so you can't turn them off without turning the whole Head off. It'd be cool if you could add things like a holster, but unfortunately, you can't.

sights0d
06-27-2002, 06:56 AM
What do you folks think of the vest thingy that I invented?

legameboy
06-27-2002, 08:09 AM
its nice, could use more texture to it though:)

sights0d
06-27-2002, 08:15 AM
I put up a set of questions on the modeling forum to ask for help in removing and adding pieces in a new model, but I have no idea what the model even looks like or how the files are put together.

sights0d
06-27-2002, 09:29 AM
Here are some updates to the face, but I think the original handlebar was better.

front (http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/25cf418e/bc/Sights0d/Gallandro_005.bmp?bclNnG9AkGkQl4bh)

side (http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/25cf418e/bc/Sights0d/Gallandro_006.bmp?bclNnG9AUvlPnGXZ)

Let me know.

sights0d
06-27-2002, 10:25 AM
And I agreed with the comment about making the hair darker. I just did it... After I fiddle with the clothes, I'll put up another update.

sights0d
06-27-2002, 10:26 AM
By the way... Does anyone know how to make some good looking black leather?

sights0d
06-27-2002, 04:05 PM
While I'm at it, I need some clothing reference picks. I've been looking around and can't find a good style of clothing. Gallandro is supposed to be a gaudy dresser.

BradFu
06-28-2002, 06:07 AM
For his clothing, I'm thinking some leather, but some brightly colored stuff, even just brightly colored thread patterns in the clothing.

legameboy
06-28-2002, 06:19 AM
i agree

sights0d
06-28-2002, 04:43 PM
I was just rereading Han Solo and the Lost Legacy and Gallandro is supposed to be wearing grey trousers, short grey jacket, high collared whited shirt, and a LONG WHITE SCARF. I'm wondering if the scarf will make him look effeminent.
I like the idea of the threads and the colors, but I also want it obvious that he's a tough guy... How can I get that old gunslinger look? I'm thinking something like Angel Eyes from the Clint Eastwood movies.

sights0d
06-28-2002, 06:38 PM
K... I've decided to completely redo the body from scratch (or rather, from the jkreference pack). So...
gray pants...
gray short jacket,
white shirt (but not pure rip-your-eyes-from-your-sockets white)
and I'm thinking of tinkering with a scarf (multiplayer colours?)
black shiny boots

Now... any idea of how to add something in the way of design to the jacket?

sights0d
06-29-2002, 03:17 PM
Here's an update. I drastically altered the clothing. Up close, the shoulders have a leather texture. I'm going to texture that lapel a little more, too. The jacket also has a more textured look to it than it looks in the pics.Back (http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/25cf418e/bc/Sights0d/Gallandro_013.bmp?bcoCXH9Aa_B4wkfp)

front (http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/25cf418e/bc/Sights0d/Gallandro_012.bmp?bcoCXH9A7lSWI0Jj)

sights0d
06-30-2002, 04:01 PM
I'm going to close this thread up, because it looks like no one is really interested. I'm going to flip a coin and decide if I should open a new one under WIP: Gallandro and see if I can get more interest. Then I'll flip a coin and see if I want to keep working on the skin at all.

sights0d
06-30-2002, 05:30 PM
Thanks, kman@polycount, for fixing the name of the thread. I'm continuing work on the skin. I've just added some good stuff to the shirt. Here's a pic:

Vest 'n stuff (http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/25cf418e/bc/Sights0d/Gallandro_018.bmp?bcfztH9AkzAZUFaf)

Infinity Blade
06-30-2002, 05:54 PM
This is only a suggestion, but I'd probably display your work as Jpgs with the minimum compression. That way you don't spend as much time on the download, it looks nice, and it's easier for people to view.

I'd prefer that, anyway. And you might get more feedback then. Just my opinion.....


As far as the skin:
I couldn't access half of the images, but the first few and the last one I could see. It has a kind of cartoony feel, but I realize it's a work in progress, and I don't know exactly what you're going for.

On an interesting note, the most recent picture you posted looks cel shaded in a way, and while perhaps not a common appearance, it gives way to some interesting skins and possible mods. Cel shaded style would be interesting, but I dont know if it's possible with the engine, though. I kind of doubt it.

I am merely assuming the 'cel' look is because you just started to rework the skin recently, and while the textures aren't very detailed yet, it has some pretty neat design behind it.

Keep on Skinning!

sights0d
07-01-2002, 12:12 AM
I concur. That might be why I don't get a lot of comments. I'll convert some over to jpegs and repost them. Thanks.

I hadn't actually been going for a cell shaded look, but I know what you mean. I'm intending to fix that part last. I'm using photoshop 4.x, so I'm somewhat limited as far as some drawing parameters go. I'll fix that other stuff in a few minutes and repost.

sights0d
07-01-2002, 12:18 AM
K... fixed the file compression for posting. Sorry folks. Didn't realize that most of the pice were over 1MB. I'm downloading so fast with cable (:D ) that it was unnoticable to me.

Here's an update (35k!)

Improved front (http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/25cf418e/bc/Sights0d/Gallandro_018.jpg?bc5msR9AzArYVTYV)

BradFu
07-01-2002, 01:46 AM
Hey, that's starting to look really cool :D Definitely looking fancy and somewhat old-fashioned, somewhat old-west-ish, which is how I picture him.

I like the cut of the jacket, but definitely needs more texture and shading to give it the realism it deserves. For his face, I would darken his hair more, make it actually black, and then give him some grey on his temples to give the impression that he's not really old, but he's starting to age.

Another thing, I don't know if you tried this in one of your previous pictures, couldn't view any of the bmp versions. I would suggest throwing a couple more beads on each side of the mustache, and also make his little goatee a bit longer and put a bead on there.

sights0d
07-01-2002, 02:01 AM
I like all of those ideas except for the bead in the goatee. I tried one of those on mockup and it made him look a little too... circus-like.

sights0d
07-01-2002, 02:45 PM
I can't figure out what to do next. I'm having a devil of a time with skin textures and cloth textures. Does anyone know of a tutorial for it? I Just can't seem to get it to work at all. I actually screwed up the face pretty badly and then accidently saved it, but thankfully had a pk3 set up earlier and I just pulled those files out and replaced the bad files with them.

HELP! Need textures!

sights0d
07-02-2002, 05:20 PM
Here are some ingame screenshots. I need to find a way to get rid of the plasticy look. Any suggestions?

1 (http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/25cf418e/bc/Sights0d/__hr_shot0012.jpg?bc0GYI9ApjE5ZCz9)

2 (http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/25cf418e/bc/Sights0d/__hr_shot0007.jpg?bc0GYI9A_x1KdluS)

3 (http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/25cf418e/bc/Sights0d/__hr_shot0009.jpg?bc0GYI9AeXO46h9t)

4 (http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/25cf418e/bc/Sights0d/__hr_shot0013.jpg?bc0GYI9AtG_kHx7t)

5 (http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/25cf418e/bc/Sights0d/__hr_shot0014.jpg?bc0GYI9A21Fz50re)

sights0d
07-03-2002, 03:58 PM
Unless someone makes some suggestions soon, I'm just gonna pak this baby up and ship him off to www.jediknightii.net. I was still hoping to get some ideas for clothing textures. I'm getting married, going on a honeymoon, and moving in about a week and some change, so I don't have time to sit around and twiddle my thumbs. Anyone?

BradFu
07-04-2002, 04:52 AM
I'd be happy to give you some suggestions :) First, though, I need to see the latest shots :( That yahoofs.com doesn't work well for me, most of the time I can't see your pictures. I suggest just grabbing a Geocities account, and change the names of your images to whatever.txt rather than .jpg.

[SWS]Strider
07-04-2002, 05:15 AM
I think it's a good concept, I like it.

P.S.Brad, I sent you a PM, some people don't check thiers so I thought I'd let you know.

sights0d
07-04-2002, 07:26 AM
That's weird. They always have gone through before. I'll take a look. Maybe yahoo changed its address.

sights0d
07-04-2002, 07:27 AM
Here's one.

1 (http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/25cf418e/bc/Sights0d/__hr_Gallandro_018.jpg?bc2B5I9Ao7wMW.CQ)

Can't guarentee how long it will work, though.

sights0d
08-22-2002, 08:19 PM
Arighty... I'm back from a month in Europe following my marriage to my wonderful new wife... And I'm looking at Gallandro.
His major problem is that the face seems REALLY dark, but it's much, much lighter in photoshop. Any ideas? I'm worried that if I lighten him too much he'll be all bleached out.

sights0d
08-22-2002, 08:53 PM
I just went through and loaded a variety of characters and realized that just about everyone is a bit dark. I'm going to edit my settings and check whether it makes a difference. Hopefully I'll only crash once or twice.

gt r?
08-23-2002, 10:20 AM
None of the pictures work for me, it says'' Not found'',stupid yahoo.:mad:

sights0d
08-23-2002, 01:16 PM
I'll post some more... Every once in a while they move stuff. I might even get a geocities if it becomes too much of a hassle.

sights0d
08-25-2002, 06:16 PM
Here we go. My new site on Geocities:

http://www.geocities.com/sights0d/Gallandro2.html
http://www.geocities.com/sights0d/Gallandro4.html

Let me know what you think.

If the links break, send me a mail at sights0d@yahoo.com

I'm going to send him in to jediknightii.net tomorrow if I don't get responses. I need to finish this project and move on to other stuff.