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kfretz
06-30-2002, 09:48 AM
I Pick Vader without a doubt because eventhough yoda is a crazy SOB Vader is the chosen one.

Ryaken For
06-30-2002, 09:58 AM
Yoda. Vader got his ass handed to him by a whiney moisture farmer who only had a few months of training.

SeraphimII
06-30-2002, 10:17 AM
Yoda! But in the time of Vader in ESB and ROTJ I think Yoda might have lost considering Yoda had enough problems walking let alone fighting.

HellFyre69
06-30-2002, 10:46 AM
of course vader.. Then why wouldnt yoda go against vader, and kick his ass, but he had to hide instead...

Makkoan
06-30-2002, 11:25 AM
Yoda - if they are both in their prime.

I mean come on, whos gonna win
a 700 year old
or
a 40 year old?

But if yoda was say 500, then he would win undoubtatly.

Darth Knight
06-30-2002, 11:29 AM
the chosen one does not mean most powerful- at least i don't think- from what i know all it means is that he brings balance to the force no other details

could be wrong though

Darth Knight
06-30-2002, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by HellFyre69
of course vader.. Then why wouldnt yoda go against vader, and kick his ass, but he had to hide instead...

cause yoda was like a million years old(give or take a few 100,000) and vader had a lot of st with him

CapNColostomy
06-30-2002, 06:07 PM
Vader. Easy. If Yoda could've taken Vader, then episodes 4-6 would've been pretty boring I'd say. Vader had to be the father of Luke to bring ballance to the force. Which is why Anakin was called the chosen one. If Yoda could just beat Vader, then there would be no need for Luke. No chosen one. No prequals, at least not the way they are anyway.

Lunatic Jedi
06-30-2002, 06:15 PM
If Yoda had still been in his prime, he would have torn Vader apart.

After all, Yoda nearly handed Dooku's ass to him on a platter. And Dooku was the only Jedi to even come close to equalling Yoda's power. Yoda would have chopped Dooku to bits if hadn't been for that damn pillar Dooku dropped.

CapNColostomy
06-30-2002, 06:24 PM
If he was so great, why did he hide during the Jedi purge? I mean, Vader was hunting down all the Jedi, if Yoda could beat Vader, why hide? Why let all the Jedi die? I like Yoda and all, but there's a reason why he's not the main hero. Because he's not able to defeat the main bad guys on his own. Vice versa for why he's not the main bad guy.

King Andrei
06-30-2002, 09:36 PM
Why does Yoda have 15 voted and Vader only 6?

If you ask me, I think Vader could kick his ass everytime.

kfretz
06-30-2002, 09:39 PM
I agree....Yes, it is true that Yoda is the most powerful jedi but Vader is also quite powerful.....Dooku sucks compared to vader and Dooku almost defeated yoda so vader could easily.......i mean yoda just moves heavy objects but Vader is the only charater we have seen that really utilizes the force grip.....i would love to see Vader just choke out yoda. yoda is very powerful but luke is the only one who can defeat Vader, thats why he is so important, therefore chain rule states that Vader could beat yoda

Ben_Walker
06-30-2002, 09:50 PM
As I remember kfretz, Dooku didn't even come close to defeating Yoda. All Dooku did was hold off Yoda and made a run for his ship when he tried to crush Obi-Wan and Anakin. But lets say, Yoda in his prime fighting Vader in his prime. Vader would have his hands full. Remember the way Yoda used his saber.

Reborn Jerec
07-01-2002, 10:44 AM
Without a doubt, Yoda.
Comparison:

Yoda: Over Nine Hundred Years old, most expierienced jedi

Vader: Not A Hundred years old, good jedi, bad case of asthma

Shadow Angel
07-01-2002, 02:08 PM
Why does everyone say that Vader could beat the living crap out of Yoda, but in my Yoda vs. Sidious thread, everyone says Yoda can beat the crap out of Sidious? I'm under the impression that Sidious is superior to all his apprentices. Sure, he doesn't do much in the movies, but come on! He's WAY more evil and has way more Dark Side powers than Vader.

And to win the support of Vader fans voting for Sidious in my thread, I'll vote for Vader (I'd vote for Vader anyway, even if you guys hate Sidious, because Vader's cool and can beat the crap out of anybody besides Sidious and maybe Luke.)

Dath Maximus
07-02-2002, 05:31 AM
didnt i have create a poll just like this when i first came along?

obi
07-02-2002, 05:35 AM
Originally posted by Dath Maximus
didnt i have create a poll just like this when i first came along?

no, you didn't.

*throws tomato at Dath*

I'm gonna try my hand at this Multiplayer talk.

Yoda would 00wnz Vaderz. Yoda would be R0x0rs everywhere. Yoda can Beatz that Vader cause Vader is a n00b. Yoda r0x0rs or w00teverz.

Padawan Andy
07-02-2002, 05:43 AM
Hard to call, Yoda is in tune with the living force. Although old or not, Yoda would give ol'Vader a run for his money. Think of it Vader isnt as agile as he used to be when he was more human. Sure he jump and swing his saber real hard but come on, you all saw how Yoda was working over Dooku. I dont really see who would win but damn it would one bad ass fight.

Dath Maximus
07-02-2002, 05:44 AM
actually i did

it was my first thread that i posted

Dath Maximus
07-02-2002, 05:51 AM
ah ha!

http://64.246.44.70/~lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=61457

now then yoda would kick vaders bum!

can i say that?

Lime-Light
07-02-2002, 07:22 AM
Nooooooo!! I accidentaly clicked vader! Crap!

Lime-Light
07-02-2002, 07:30 AM
Originally posted by obi-wan13


no, you didn't.

*throws tomato at Dath*

I'm gonna try my hand at this Multiplayer talk.

Yoda would 00wnz Vaderz. Yoda would be R0x0rs everywhere. Yoda can Beatz that Vader cause Vader is a n00b. Yoda r0x0rs or w00teverz.

Its l33t 5pe4k!


y0d4 \/\/ 0\/\/|\|z \/4d3r. y0d4 r0x0r5 \/4d3r. 7h3 Y0d4 /\/\457er c4|\| \/\/h00p \/4d3r L1k3 a ll4/\/\4 83c4u53 \/4d3r 15 4 |\|3wb.

Dath Maximus
07-02-2002, 07:32 AM
Originally posted by Lime-Light


Its l33t 5pe4k!


y0d4 \/\/ 0\/\/|\|z \/4d3r. y0d4 r0x0r5 \/4d3r. 7h3 Y0d4 /\/\457er c4|\| \/\/h00p \/4d3r L1k3 a ll4/\/\4 83c4u53 \/4d3r 15 4 |\|3wb.

yeah.... i have absolutly no idea what that means

Lime-Light
07-02-2002, 07:33 AM
Originally posted by Lime-Light


Its l33t 5pe4k!


y0d4 0\/\/|\|z \/4d3r. y0d4 r0x0r5 \/4d3r. 7h3 Y0d4 /\/\457er c4|\| \/\/h00p \/4d3r L1k3 a ll4/\/\4 83c4u53 \/4d3r 15 4 |\|3wb.

= Yoda owns Vader. Yoda rules Vader. The Yoda Master can whoop Vader like a llama becuase Vader is a newb.

Dath Maximus
07-02-2002, 07:44 AM
a llama??

what the freek!

Obi seek help!

Darth Talliusc
07-02-2002, 07:53 AM
i really like yoda and all but vader is well... hes got more midichlorians than yoda (raw force power) and hes not hindered by only using the force in defense and he has a longer lightsaber, yoda on the other hand is well passed his prime, wont let himself use his anger to access more power and cant even walk without aid.... actually that last point isnt very good since vader cant breathe without aid...... ok lets just say that exar kun would wreck them both!

Darth Groovy
07-02-2002, 06:19 PM
I got really exited when I saw this posted and just as I got ready to vote I hesitated and withdrew from the poll. Yoda and Vader are equally my favorites in the Star Wars universe. I truly could not live without either one, nor could I choose one over the other.

obi
07-02-2002, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by Dath Maximus

Obi seek help!

What did I do ?!?!?!?!?

I didn't say nothin bout no llama!

Anyways, back to the topic, I think if Yoda and Vader had a fight, Yoda would win, because they are both very old people, and using the dark side drains your life, so that doesn't help vader much.

Turgenev
07-03-2002, 02:51 AM
(No pun intended)

Let's break it down into the critical arguments.

1. Vader has more raw force power; Obi-Wan said so in Ep1. However, Yoda's got half a dozen centuries of USING that Force power, and refining his skills.

2. At which point in their respective careers would they be fighting? Presuming they both fight in their prime, I'd have to say "I dunno", because we see Yoda in his declining days, and still being relatively bada$$. So, Let's say "movie prime", meaning what we actually see of them.

3. Vader wins. Why? Sadly, cuz Yoda's constitution wouldn't be able to hold out. Dude's old. Yeah, he danced around Dooku pretty well, but how long would he have been able to keep that up? And he was matching Dooku power for power, not actually overtaking him.

And for those that argue that "if Yoda is so great, why didn't he kill Vader"... while I vote for Vader, my answer to that is this: Yoda has to choose his own ground. He wouldn't be fighting JUST Vader. He'd be fighting the ENTIRE EMPIRE. A man against a million - while that'd be a FREAKIN' FANTASTIC movie to see, it ain't gonna happen. :)

(Imagining a Star Destroyer being yanked out of orbit by a pissed off Yoda)

Obi-Doo
07-11-2002, 08:43 AM
Vader is quite weak actually. He does not match the Jedis of old like Yoda, Windu, Dooku, Jinn, or even Kenobi. I dont know why someone at all votes for Vader, he cant even keep the same saber for half an hour (AOTC). And dooku is much stronger than Vader. Dooku spent like 50 years on his Saber abilitys, Anakin only kill Sand Tusken children.

Guardian Omega
07-11-2002, 08:52 AM
Anakin was a padawan at the time.............

If you didn't know, Obi Wan jacked up his saber a bit when going into the waters. :p

That can be eaisly preventive, managing a factory raid is not.......

MysticSpade
07-11-2002, 09:26 AM
Originally posted by kfretz
I agree....Yes, it is true that Yoda is the most powerful jedi but Vader is also quite powerful.....Dooku sucks compared to vader and Dooku almost defeated yoda so vader could easily.......i mean yoda just moves heavy objects but Vader is the only charater we have seen that really utilizes the force grip.....i would love to see Vader just choke out yoda. yoda is very powerful but luke is the only one who can defeat Vader, thats why he is so important, therefore chain rule states that Vader could beat yoda



First off i have to state this again. YODA was playing with Dooku we haven't seen YODA at his best yet. Dooku relies entirely on defense, YODA uses an offensesive style but the whole time he covers his @$$ there's no way you can get through his attacks. And YODA was 900 in ROTJ but i get your point. YODA was banished to the Dageba system you see y in Ep3. But i agree with what was stated earlier, if they are both in there prime no BIONIC ENHANCEMENTS ie: Vader
YODA would surely win.

Darth Talliusc
07-11-2002, 10:07 AM
yoda wasnt banished. he hid there because dagobah is full of life and would help him should he ever need to defened himself. later on there was no point in leaving as there was the presence of a dead dark jedi from bpfassh there. like a negative and positive charge they cancel each other out. thats why vader and palpatine never found him... and im getting really sick of all this yoda talk. i used to like the old dude but now i wish he'd never been put on a film reel

Yoda_623
07-11-2002, 11:52 AM
Um....I'm just gonna say Yoda and leave it at that. :D

MatTant
07-12-2002, 01:23 AM
I think that the force desides who wins .









:D

WolfmanNCSU
07-12-2002, 01:55 AM
Hey Mat, and welcome to the forums.

MatTant
07-12-2002, 10:56 AM
thx. Im already a darksider , I go by the name of ATIK
when I play . I just don`t like tha 1.03 patch so I play with 1.02

=)

MatTant = Mat Tant = lunch lady in swedish .
[ its my DJ name ] ...

anyway ...=)...

I just realized that I have little skills wrightin` in english .
So , I`ll try not to emberess myself too much.

okok . Look .

first of all , IF they had to fight , and the location they fight is
a VERY important factor. [remember Vaders throwin stuff around
fettish?] . And Yoda jumpin around and stuff ... humhum

en second . Why use force powers ? I mean , the would surly
dispel each other e-z as hell?
[ ok , vader would probably try to do such a sneak thing like Maul did]
But Yoda would sence this , would`t he? ..
I meeeeean like , he can see into the future right? =)

... humhum ... Who asked this stupid thing anyway? =)

Sorry if my english sucks , thats one of the reasons
Im wrightin` here , cause` I really love english ...

Je , ajt .



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