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greedo626
07-18-2002, 02:12 AM
I have a theory about atoms. I think that solar systems are atoms. with the sun being the atom and the planets being the little things that orbit atoms(I can't remeber what they're called. oh wait, neutrons. right). nuetrons are the planets orbiting the atoms. the thing is that our whole galaxy is like the shoe of some guy or something and my shoe contains a galaxy. it's weird if you think about it.

atom
http://lynx.uio.no/gif/atom.gif

our solar system
http://www.awesomelibrary.org/images/solar-system-nasa.jpg

a galaxy
http://planetquest.jpl.nasa.gov/images/galaxy.gif

I dont have a picture but a magnified atom looks alot like the galaxy.

Tyrion
07-18-2002, 02:19 AM
First,the things that orbit the center are called electrons and the nuetrons have equal electrons and neutrons.

Second,I dont like that theory because I feel so small with it.:(

Third,how far would it go? Would each atom go on,so that each atom has almost infinite of atoms,which have almost infinite of atoms,which have almost infinite atoms,....ect.?

techsurfer
07-18-2002, 02:19 AM
For one thing electrons orbit the nucleus (which contain both protons and neutrons). But they don't actually orbit them - they pop up and disappear again (an example of quantum weirdness)!

Darth-Nasty
07-18-2002, 02:42 AM
electrons orbit the atom

electrons are negativly charged

you are suggesting planets are electrons therefore negativly charged

planets are not negativly charged

the sun isnt positvly charged

your theory does not work




what keeps the solar system working is gravity not charge

Kstar__2
07-18-2002, 04:09 AM
Originally posted by greedo626
I have a theory about atoms. I think that solar systems are atoms. with the sun being the atom and the planets being the little things that orbit atoms(I can't remeber what they're called. oh wait, neutrons. right). nuetrons are the planets orbiting the atoms. the thing is that our whole galaxy is like the shoe of some guy or something and my shoe contains a galaxy. it's weird if you think about it.



and it just popped into your head?



:o atoms are the smallest things in the world, so we cant live on one

Clem
07-18-2002, 04:16 AM
actually a magnified atom doesnt look like that .....

its complex trust me

nice idea .... but flawed

edit: atoms arent the smallest things

atoms are made up of neutrons protons and electrons .... which are smaller

all of these are made up of other things .... but i dont know what they are .... too deep a physics for me

Darth Knight
07-18-2002, 04:38 AM
well that would be werid but i mean like i don't know that is just to werid

JrKASperov
07-18-2002, 06:09 AM
How much wrongness here! let me clean this up::eek:

-Electrons orbit the nucleus, they are negatively charged

-The nucleus consists of neutrons, which are neutrally charged, and protons, which are positively charged...

-Neutrons and protons arent actually the smallest thing in the universum, neither are atoms, what they know now is that socalled neutrinos are smallest

-protons and neutrons are made of three quarks each...

-neutrinos belong to the leptons, the electron is an example of a lepton...

So far the physics lesson by me:D

Clem
07-18-2002, 06:11 AM
Originally posted by JrKASperov
How much wrongness here! let me clean this up::eek:

-Electrons orbit the necleus, they are negatively charged

-The nucles consists of neutrons, which are neutrally charged, and protons, which are positively charged...

-Neutrons and protons arent actually the smallest thing in the universum, neither are atoms, what they know now is that socalled neutrinos are smallest

-protons and neutrons are made of three quarks each...

-neutrinos belong to the leptons, the electron is an example of a lepton...

So far the physics lesson by me:D

as long as u aint referring to me

Yoda_623
07-18-2002, 06:15 AM
Wow, this is a deep thread. :)

Clem
07-18-2002, 06:18 AM
deep like most of the holes in star wars films

JrKASperov
07-18-2002, 06:22 AM
Well yeah

sometimes I doubt about my mental abilities, I just shouldnt be knowing so much about quarks and leptons and baryons and all with my 16 years.... thats just insane....

And to think I am not a nerd or anything, I actually DO have a girlfriend(could get two if I wanted:D)

matt--
07-18-2002, 06:34 AM
You should see the ancient thread on if droids possess souls. That's a really philosophical/religious thread. That was a long time ago tho.

Anyways, JrKASperov hit the nail on the head.

And I really don't think we're on atoms...

Kyth'emos
07-18-2002, 06:57 AM
Originally posted by Darth Clem
actually a magnified atom doesnt look like that .....

its complex trust me

nice idea .... but flawed

edit: atoms arent the smallest things

atoms are made up of neutrons protons and electrons .... which are smaller

all of these are made up of other things .... but i dont know what they are .... too deep a physics for me

Actually neutrons, electrons, and protons aren't made up of smaller things an electron is pretty much the smallest thing in the universe.

Clem
07-18-2002, 06:59 AM
Originally posted by Kyth'emos


Actually neutrons, electrons, and protons aren't made up of smaller things an electron is pretty much the smallest thing in the universe.

see kasperovs post ... electrons are made of sumthing (which must be smaller)

Kyth'emos
07-18-2002, 07:08 AM
Ok correction, quarks are the smallest thing in the universe.

edit - no actually I take that back, an electron is 1/1800 the size of a proon which is aproxamitly the same size as a neutron. so an electron is still 3/1800 the size of a quark.

Clem
07-18-2002, 07:11 AM
dont be so certain

we always finding smaller stuff

whitedragon
07-18-2002, 07:12 AM
very observent you are but i dont think youll get many people on here who really care:confused:

matt--
07-18-2002, 07:18 AM
And what about photons, the massless particle that is both a particle and a wave!

Clem
07-18-2002, 07:22 AM
not quite true

light is with particles (photons) or waves .... photons arent waves

u can show that electrons are waves however .... u can diffract them (a property of waves)


and im REALLY not gonna get into wave particle duality!!

Darth Knight
07-18-2002, 08:11 AM
woahhh you guys said to many words for me

SharaFett
07-18-2002, 10:27 AM
yes exactly what clem said. photons are packets of quanta. it is because of the nature of photons that electrons dont move in a perfect spherical orbit around the atom. they move in a definite space, but are in random order. and it is also mathematically and scientifically impossible to know BOTH the velocity and location of an electron at one point in time. And i dont know the point of this thread :P