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PIo Koon
03-14-2002, 08:40 PM
i wasn't planning on asking him...hes to busy lol

and get ahead of myself?...just setting up a rough path..we need it finished and mapped first i know

PIo Koon
07-18-2002, 06:39 AM
hey Everyone

well im tired of seeing the Elite in Halo and i wanna play as one really bad

so..im going to make an ettempt to TRY and make a Covenant Elite

i tried 2 tiems last night and i just kept ****ed up lol

if ANYONE can find FRONT BACK OR SIDE pictures of him relaxed and not opened mouth i would REALLY appreciate them

i had the 2 very good pics from bungie's truth and reconcilliation site but i need some better pics

or if someone wants to draw them (Icepool i would really love it if u could draw him good, i know ur a good drawer BUT its only if u want to, im happy with the IAG pics u drew)

but i should have some WIP pics if i don't **** it my last 2 attempts...unless someone makes him im NOT going to stop until i make him


and if u think he won't fit into the bone structure...ur wrong...he will =O)


so plz..SOMEONE make him..i can't nail his head worth ****

icepool
07-18-2002, 07:26 AM
I'd draw him for you but i dont have a clue as to who he is. Unfortunately I've never been able to play Halo or even an xbox due to limited money over the last year.:(

VampireHunterD
07-18-2002, 07:29 AM
So much for reading this thread.

Anyway good luck on whatever you're trying to make.

*flies away in search of something a little more interesting*

icepool
07-18-2002, 07:30 AM
http://halo.bungie.org/screenshots/msxbox.031301/h2.jpg
Dont know if this pic is any good but check this out!

icepool
07-18-2002, 07:33 AM
I think you'll definately like these pics front and back if this is the right creature.
http://halo.bungie.org/conceptart/artpages/elitecov.html

PIo Koon
07-18-2002, 08:07 AM
Vampire..don't be an ass

it doesn't say WIP: so don't act like u got up hopes or something...damn least i don't insult your ideas...

i really hate people like that

anyway icepool yea thats him...first pic is him...2'nd pic is old but still him

agentj64
07-18-2002, 08:12 AM
Hey i'd model it too:p was thinking about it actualy
lets see your WIPs maybe we can help out :\
I happen to have a copy of XBOX right with me:d
Now If I could just reprogram it so I can disable AI in HALO:D..
ahh


Shaders are goign to be a MASSIVE factor in this model however:)

PIo Koon
07-18-2002, 08:13 AM
thankx Agent..

SpartnII@hotmail.com
ZeroX393

Spartn is my MSN name and Zero is my AIM name..message me on MSN im avoiding someone on AIM lol

also ill get my digital camera and take some in game pics...thers like 4 different elites for EACH color so i dunno what one im going to get lol

Sounds Risky
07-18-2002, 08:25 AM
I can think of five classes of Elites. No reason they can't all be in the game seeing as how they're just different colors.

Darth Xhan
07-18-2002, 08:34 AM
There are three classes of Elite.

Red and Blue command Squads.

Purple and Maroon are the Word and Will version. They are shock/commando versions of the above.

Gold Elites command entire Units. there are only 8 in the game on Legendary.

I will say you are going to be VERY hard pressed to make one with only as many polys as are available.. And you're going to have to have custom animations for EVERYTHING.

Sounds Risky
07-18-2002, 08:37 AM
Ok then, five colors of Elites. Blue, red, gold, silver, and black.

PIo Koon
07-18-2002, 08:43 AM
darth it will work as a regular player

and as for ranks your wrong lol

each color has about 3 differnt helmets

round

3 points

and some other i think it only has 2 points that are in the middle

and they are for all the dark blue

then red

then light blue

then gold

then platnium

i have the game and i get bored..what can i say =OD

as for grunts...no one cares lol

menemeth
07-19-2002, 03:35 AM
I know this a little early to be thinking about but I have a great place for taunts, also If you need some help im open, before JK2 halo was my life, lol. Heres the site:

http://halo.bungie.org/tipsntricks/display.html?collection=xbill.elitespeak

Also here are some pictures that I think might be useful:
http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/screenshots/scrn_002.jpg
http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/screenshots/scrn_018.jpg
http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/screenshots/scrn_067.jpg
http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/screenshots/scrn_061.jpg
http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/screenshots/scrn_070.jpg
http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/screenshots/scrn_086.jpg
http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/desktops/wallpaper/elite_640.jpg
I wish you the best of luck Plo, this will be my most anticcipated model ever!

menemeth
07-19-2002, 03:39 AM
The complete list of Elite colors is as follows:
Blue (Basic)
Red (Higher Ranking)
Cloaked
Un-Cloaked Silver-Blue
Gold (Highest Ranking)
Black (Covert Ops)

I belive Gold would be the best choice, I also have a Covenant plasma sword in the works right now. Let me know if you would like to use it
-Menemeth-@excite.com

PIo Koon
07-19-2002, 04:14 AM
i won't be able to make him =O\

so i think someone else of better modeling talents should try...i can't nail his head really well or his upper body...so i won't be able to make him =O(

PIo Koon
07-19-2002, 05:26 AM
lol..i always give up to soon

what do u think...i think i nailed it pretty damn good on my 5'th try

http://www.renegademods.info/users/SpartnII/EliteHeadTest.jpg

i know it still needs work...but i think that head is promising

what do u guys think?

also i know im not going to be able to model his whole body, seeing as im having such a hard time with his head...so im gunu need help..agent if u still want to respond to my PM


PS: and im glad someone is anticipating it

if anyone ever played C&C Renegade...i was the one who was making Zero: SP

but that damn community doesn't help worth **** so it died...

but i still have lots of halo models...........=O)

BTW: these are the main pictures im using to model this biatch

http://www.renegademods.info/users/SpartnII/Elite.jpg
http://www.renegademods.info/users/SpartnII/Elite2.jpg


grrrr....why doesn't bungie have quicktime 160 rotation movies of the covenant like they do marines!!!! =O(

Sebulba-Dug
07-19-2002, 05:50 AM
Nice job on the head, but i'm thinking the body is gonna be a hell of a lot harder because of the dog-like legs.

PIo Koon
07-19-2002, 05:52 AM
the legs arn't a prob for me...they'll fit on the bone sctructure its not hard..but it'll be a lil challenging to make

PIo Koon
07-19-2002, 06:52 AM
updated pic

http://www.renegademods.info/users/SpartnII/EliteTest.jpg

im happy with the neck and ok with the head...the chest is probly a standin for now though

agentj64
07-19-2002, 06:57 AM
Darnit lol PIo!

Ill try my hand it now:P

im in #jediknight (the chat room for jediknightii.net)
so if u wanna work together:p
i dont got AIM but meh i guess ill have to get trillium!

ill post my version soon:D

err i hope

oh oh wait!
SHAMELESS PLUG
blrrr

http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70191


:)


Good job
though and yes the backward knees is sure to be a problem, but im sure you could just modle them out and move back the envelopes in SKIN

PIo Koon
07-19-2002, 07:03 AM
agent im there..only if u talked lol

agentj64
07-19-2002, 07:55 AM
Did you just die in the channel?

Sebulba-Dug
07-19-2002, 08:48 AM
Body with the head looks real good! :ltblubou: :redbounc: :grnbounc: :bounc5: :blubounc: :urpboun: :yelbounc: :bounc4:

cROsIs**
07-19-2002, 09:44 AM
L00king good.


Btw, wouldnt it be real easy to take the Swamp Trooper and make him, ehem Master Chief?

PIo Koon
07-19-2002, 10:03 AM
Crosis...yea we could do that...

or..this is a crazy idea..but maybe...just maaaaaaaaaaybe use the master chief model i have =OP

its the same master chief model that Alex Wright put into CS

menemeth
07-19-2002, 10:28 AM
Im glad you could figure it out, it looks great! hehe this is going to be better than yoda! did you see the site I posted for taunts? and if so which one are you going to use? If you need anymore refrence stuff just give a hollar and ill be ready. Also my covent plasma Sowrd is almost done ill try to post some pictures soon although im going to have trouble getting it in-game dues to animations restrictions.

Sounds Risky
07-19-2002, 10:39 AM
I think "Your death is the will of the Gods" should be the taunt.

agentj64
07-19-2002, 11:40 AM
*huff puff*

K
4 hours of modeling
head done!
un opted

body tomorrow
yes yes
then armor..feet..all done tomorrow
oh oh book read must read book for shcool
yes yes
but will finish model! night tonight..tired..hands falling off

asleep agentJ goes asleep

totalltoo

Darth Xhan
07-19-2002, 12:17 PM
Invisible Elites are blue elites...

and Maroon and Purple ARE the Spec Op elites. The Word and The Will. With the Platinum Armoring.


As for the model.. nice... But his jaw(s) is too Charlton Heston/Kirk Douglas... Can you make it more narrow and smaller heigthwise? Remember everything comes to a smooth slope when his jaws are closed... (For the GOLD ELITES, the ones with the swept back three/five point heads, which are the coolest heads IMO, and the one you seem to be modeling) (and yes, I understand you are working under duress and the restraints of the polycount restrictions :cool: ) Your jaw seems taken from the "fin" head Elites.. the three or Five "point" headed Gold Elites have a narrow jaw.

The other heads are the "fin" heads (last pic) and the "spear" heads (shown in the pic with the red elite neck shot and the two blues putting the double team smackdown on the flood)

http://halo.bungie.org/screenshots/truthandrecon.060702/a50_34.jpg

http://halo.bungie.org/screenshots/truthandrecon.041102/scrn_086.jpg

http://halo.bungie.org/screenshots/truthandrecon.032202/20.jpg

http://halo.bungie.org/screenshots/truthandrecon.020802/a10_07.jpg

http://halo.bungie.org/screenshots/truthandrecon.020802/a10_23.jpg

http://halo.bungie.org/screenshots/truthandrecon.011802/scrn_070.jpg

http://halo.bungie.org/screenshots/truthandrecon.011802/scrn_070.jpg

In any case, I'll be the first to download it..

Azrael
07-19-2002, 12:29 PM
Does anyone know of a working X-Box emulator? I wanna play halo, but I don't want to to go blow four hundred bucks for a system.

Darth Xhan
07-19-2002, 12:49 PM
The only emulator out is a Trojan. NOt a good idea to DL..

The PC version is due out in May 'O3

PIo Koon
07-19-2002, 01:01 PM
don't talk about emulators plz..keep it with the model =OP

i didn't really get what u wanted me to do to the jaw but o well..im still making the head so ill probly do it without even noticing

PIo Koon
07-19-2002, 01:21 PM
3 Tip
4 Tip
Round Tip

all of those heads for the elite are done

Darth Xhan
07-19-2002, 01:38 PM
What I mean was make the BOTTOM of the jaw smaller and narrower. Suck it in.... and as for the front of the face it should be SMOOTH, no gap, on the gold elite (pointy head) You have a gap on top, like the fin heads have.. the pointy heads don't.. It's like it's one piece until they speak. (like the top picture link)

Darth Xhan
07-19-2002, 01:47 PM
Sorry I'm being anal.. but I am ALL about Halo.. and Bungie in general.. And the Gold Elite is one of my favorite characters of all time.

PIo Koon
07-19-2002, 01:54 PM
um........what gap................................

Darth Xhan
07-19-2002, 02:11 PM
the jutting out part on the forehead.. in the side view you provided.. the part of his forehead that sticks out farther than the rest of his face... It shouldn't. The side view would look like one continuous piece..

Darth Xhan
07-19-2002, 02:24 PM
Like so:

http://halo.bungie.org/screenshots/truthandrecon.060702/a50_34.jpg

Notice the top of his head.. more of a slant, and if his jaws were closed it would look like one piece.

It's really late.. sorry if this makes no sense..

PIo Koon
07-19-2002, 10:47 PM
ok...take my WIP..and edit the pic...cuz i have no clue what ur talking about lol..the mouth IS one piece on the model

im not trying to make u feel stupid or anything but i have no clue really what ur talking about heh


Agent..need some screenies man =OP



([{Edit}])

http://www.renegademods.info/users/SpartnII/3HeadElite.jpg

3 elite head pics with body

agentj64
07-20-2002, 01:38 AM
I'm using these
http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/concept/sketch_043.jpg

and

http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/concept/sketch_042.jpg

which work out well

PIo Koon
07-20-2002, 03:03 AM
no no no no no agent!!

those pics are'nt even the same version and there BOTH old versions lol

PIo Koon
07-20-2002, 03:36 AM
another updated pics

http://www.renegademods.info/users/SpartnII/Elite4tip.jpg
http://www.renegademods.info/users/SpartnII/Elite3tip.jpg
http://www.renegademods.info/users/SpartnII/Eliteround.jpg

now thers in-armor-skin and arms...all of it is still being tweaked

agent i wanna see ur version danget lol

PIo Koon
07-20-2002, 05:09 AM
OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

....wow....all i gotta say is...

every Halo fan that plays this game is going to have a heart attack.....

Agent just sent me his version of what he has so far...and well....

u guys are in for a REAL big surprise...im still in shock..my gawd its ****ing awesome!!!!!!!


AND i bet its not going to break 2000 polies!!!...it will be around 1500 polies i bet

Sounds Risky
07-20-2002, 06:16 AM
Has he updated it since yesterday? It was looking quite good then but he said he wasn't finished with the head yet.

PIo Koon
07-20-2002, 06:35 AM
i don't think so..im pretty sure not

but Matt..he sent me the file and i edited his jaw and eye area...and it looks more like him now

he also has the upper body and lower torso...and it looks ****ing awesome!!!!!!!!!!...get in #JediKnight



hmm...the jediknight chat seemed to die...it took me out of the chat and when i refreshed the page it got some error..so i pressed go back and cliked chat and the same thing...hmm

agentj64
07-20-2002, 06:40 AM
http://server49.hypermart.net/agentj64/cov.jpg

NJoy
5 hours of work

I'm off to get braces now



PS, thanks Matt you r0x0rz;)
PSS, all crit welcome! tear it apart flame i don't care!
__________________

AWESOME PLUG: (screw shameless)

http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70191

=D

Sebulba-Dug
07-20-2002, 06:44 AM
Oh... my... god.... NEED COVENANT ELITE MODEL!!! SO GOOD!!:explode: :bounfire:

Darth Xhan
07-20-2002, 06:46 AM
ok...

It's like this:

Fin head:

--------\
*******\
***eyes /
****** /
---------\
******* \
mouth***|
********|
--------- /

Which is what you have.


Spike Head: (Gold)

-----------\
******** \
**eyes*** \
------------|
**********|
**mouth***|
-----------/

I wasn't saying that the mouth is a solid piece.. It's his eye/browline. There's no forehead protrusion on a Gold Elite. The spike heads also have smaller jaws, not so blocky, like the difference between a T-Rex and a "Raptor".

Why don't you guys release both of them together? I would love to see both.

Agent... umm well... It's not an Elite from the game... but it's damn cool... scrunch the jaw in, and make his face thinner.. and your damn close.

agentj64
07-20-2002, 06:46 AM
:)
im doign something liek that not to worry!

PIo Koon
07-20-2002, 07:00 AM
i told u it was ****ing sweet didn't i?


and yes it is the Covenant from the game...once thers a skin ull see it...if u saw the Elite without a skin it would look very similar

also...me and Agent are working on something....>=O)

but were not going to say a word about it...we might drop hints but we are planning on doing something awesome for everyone ;)

Sounds Risky
07-20-2002, 07:00 AM
That's looking great Agent. Always glad to help.

PIo Koon
07-20-2002, 07:03 AM
hey i helped to!!..lol j/k...i did edit a few things but im giving full credit to Agent on that..he did a damn good job..OCH did help a lil bit to though =O)(i forgot what though lol)

also if u guys stil want to see my version ill finish it up, but looking at his...mine won't be released..im almost literally drooling over it

although...i could make mine into a low poly Elite...o well..just say what u want


also were planning on doing mouth open and closed for both heads

we are throwing 3 pointed head out the window cuz 4 point and 3 point are to alike...so Round head and 4 point we will be making...so at the moment 4 different models

Darth Xhan
07-20-2002, 07:18 AM
I'd rather see both....

And as for Mouth Open/Closed... Why don't you give just him(them) jaw/cheekbones? So they could potentially be used as NPC/SP models?

PIo Koon
07-20-2002, 08:04 AM
well i was thinking about trying to get him into single player anyway so were going to do soemthign like that probly

PIo Koon
07-20-2002, 10:11 AM
lol sebulba dog..i see u changed your icon...did we have anything to do with that? ;)

Sebulba-Dug
07-20-2002, 11:24 AM
Umm... yeah, I like the Covenant species...... I DO!

Sebulba-Dug
07-20-2002, 11:29 AM
Please work fast on it, I need it to live... :explode: :blubounc: :urpboun: :yelbounc: :bounc4: :ltblubou: :redbounc: :grnbounc: :bounc5:

Darth Xhan
07-20-2002, 11:40 AM
Would you rather have it fast.. or would you rather have to go change pants and take a cold shower when it downloaded?
;)

BTW.. there are THREE TYPES.. Bungie says so. so :p

PIo Koon
07-20-2002, 12:00 PM
Darth......thats what i said..........lol

4 tip 3 tip and round head

for grunts...round tip and pointy tip

hunter...there all bad asses =OD

jackals...who cares lol

and this model should be done farly soon..don't worry gues

Sebulba-Dug
07-20-2002, 01:22 PM
Thanks you.... Thank you..... covenant model, will be...... so ........ cool....... must have ..........soon as ........ possible (without any skipping on the detail please :D )

Sebulba-Dug
07-20-2002, 01:28 PM
From now on, I am basically gonna live in/at this forum until this amazingly cool model is complete, don't worry I can help with referecnes, crap like that, but I'm gonna live here! Oh, and I won't spam! :D

PIo Koon
07-21-2002, 12:24 AM
hey someone is living in my thread.....w00tness!!!

heh...yea im pretty damn excited myself

the PC version of Halo BETTER let u play as the covenant in multiplayer..at LEAST the Elite cuz they ****ing r0x

Cyris
07-21-2002, 12:51 AM
Hey. Im trying to model a Jedi_Rodian and a Sith_Rodian but i cant firggin deal with Gmax. What program are you using? 3DS Max or something?

PIo Koon
07-21-2002, 01:32 AM
update pictures =O)

Enjoy...Agent has spent alot of time intot his...and all i gotta say is........

..........HOLY FRICKIN SHIBIZKIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.........

http://www.renegademods.info/users/SpartnII/Elite.jpg

PIo Koon
07-21-2002, 01:49 AM
Cyris...wha? what does that have to do with anything? lol

hes using 3ds max

Sebulba-Dug
07-21-2002, 02:09 AM
The model is looking really good, keep it up!

agentj64
07-21-2002, 03:16 AM
I hate legs
I really do.

Trebor/PIo and Matt Shoemaker your assistance is needed in IRC:)

PIo Koon
07-21-2002, 04:17 AM
ok...im coming

wait no cuz the jediknightii.net site chat is down >=OI

PIo Koon
07-21-2002, 04:20 AM
well i downloaded MIRC and i don't like it lol..tell me how to get in

agentj64
07-21-2002, 05:11 AM
Click on the COnnectio button (or when us tart it) you see a CONNECT TO IRC SERVER and stuff

click Add, type in JK2 for discription
then irc server: irc.gamesnet.net
port 6667
group: whateveruwant
click ok then click connect
and type /join #jediknight in the type bar on bottom:p


=

i mena if nothing just use the link on JKii.net like u did before

PIo Koon
07-21-2002, 05:20 AM
mIRC sux man i didn't understand a ****ing thing u said...get MSN or AIM..perfer MSN

and don't rexplain im uninstalling that crap

so get MSN






NM i figured it out..i still hate it but its working

-DS-Tha Skurge
07-21-2002, 06:13 AM
[SIZE=4]KEWL

Sebulba-Dug
07-21-2002, 06:40 AM
I'm really confused, will someone explain what the hell is going on around here?

PIo Koon
07-21-2002, 07:08 AM
lol...agent needed help and needed me to go to IRC...jediknightii.net chat was down so i ahd to download MIRC and use that...its ok now


anyway...we should have a update sometime today

PIo Koon
07-21-2002, 07:49 AM
the Elite is looking ****ing awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

holy crap im drooling now..i think u guys are going to be pleased with this model...cuz im OVERLY pleased =OD

Sebulba-Dug
07-21-2002, 10:29 PM
Hey, um sorry to get off the elite topic but you guys are doing a great job and I was wondering if you could make Kasumi, Tina, Ayane, Christie, or Hitomi for Dead or Alive 3. I have tried but I suck, tell me if you need reference pics! Thanks!:D

Sebulba-Dug
07-21-2002, 10:31 PM
BTW, the Elite is looking awesome, ( i can't spell)

agentj64
07-21-2002, 10:51 PM
http://server49.hypermart.net/agentj64/cov.jpg

Njoy
:d

PIo Koon
07-21-2002, 10:52 PM
damnet agent!!! i said i was going to start a new thread and not to post...argh..o well


another pic http://www.renegademods.info/users/SpartnII/EliteConcept.jpg

agentj64
07-21-2002, 11:03 PM
Yeahy but this thread is big:P

agentj64
07-21-2002, 11:21 PM
jesus crist go on irc will you?:p

PIo Koon
07-21-2002, 11:40 PM
comments on the model?......

anyone?......

Sebulba-Dug
07-22-2002, 12:10 AM
Hey Plo, did you get my last post, my request. Oh yeah, the model looks good, the only thing is the legs look odd to me (yes I do own and have played Halo for 50+ hours). They bent back a little more I think.

agentj64
07-22-2002, 12:32 AM
http://server49.hypermart.net/agentj64/cov.jpg

arms are still bothering me. anyone else?
i saw the request, dont know if i can fulfill it tho:p

PIo Koon
07-22-2002, 12:46 AM
Sebulba we know..we talked about this and its not going to change

if we move them to far it will mess with the bone structure...and thats bad...but we are thickening the legs from the side view because it was to skinny..but yea sebulba we know

and if u looked at the side close up pics of the head..ull see that the jaw looks wierd and ur probly wondering "why does it do that"

it does because he hsan't added on the mouth pieces yet ;)

menemeth
07-22-2002, 10:29 AM
For the limitations put on models in multiplayer, I think that is the most incredible model I have ever seen, I guess SithlordII and Kinja have competion now eh? Im sure that when the source code comes out, any and all problems will be solved. But overall this is the best model i have seen yet, keep up the good work! I would also like to see some of the flood done, if thats possible.

PIo Koon
07-22-2002, 11:52 AM
thankx menemeth!!!

well...me and agent are doing something but are'nt going to say it yet

and since hes an A+ modeler and im only like a mere C- modeler(lol)...Agent probly is going to be doing most of the work...and i don't want to put to much stuff on him to do...but we'll think about doing some flood

but since NO ONE has said anything..i guess i have to give a BIG hint....

*coughMYAVATORcough*
*cough+MOREcough*

=O)

Sebulba-Dug
07-22-2002, 12:18 PM
You're going to make the Master Chief? A Hunter? A Grunt (please make a Grunt, they're so cool. A Jackel? Cortana?

PIo Koon
07-22-2002, 12:30 PM
Sebulba...2 of those we are'nt making guarantee'd...1 we MIGHT make...and ur missing one

also one of the 2 we are'nt making i am starting to leave toward making but we probly won't

finally someone responds to my avator lol

heres the name...

HMP ;)

PIo Koon
07-22-2002, 02:23 PM
is this model not interesting or something?...i woulda figured a few more replies on the about final version...o well...just gotta wait some more

"Your death is the will of the gods, and we are their instruments" - Elite

menemeth
07-22-2002, 02:37 PM
Hehe yep I know what it is, if you play Halo enough and observe the Covenant youd recognize that silhouette, as you said the avatar model is missing its arms and some certain back-appendages, but if my guess is right, how are you going to get it in game? and by the way, selbulba, the ones you were missing were marines, sargents, and flood (all four types)

PIo Koon
07-22-2002, 03:37 PM
for all u halo fans that don't go to bungie.com..listen to this =O)

http://www.bungie.net/images/site/halo/outtakes/audio/aussie/editors_nightmare.mp3

agentj64
07-22-2002, 06:38 PM
PIo im gonna beat you with a pina colada:p
Calm down you ambitious fool=D I still have to finish this, then I might make my own model design or continue with HALO
if anything I want to make a grunt;0
Even Yoda..I have a life size yoda doll with me...great refrence:d

Nah I couldn't do that
the flood has interested me tho
maybe even guilty spark!..heh wouldn't that be a whicked model

PIo Koon
07-22-2002, 06:43 PM
heh i know...im just saying we planned on it..im gunu try and increase my modeling skill or get tips or something cuz i don't wanna make u do all the work..thats kinda lame to make osmeone do all the work yet be associated with them in making something lol..makes me feel all ####ty inside =OD

TheMadDoofer
07-22-2002, 07:28 PM
Here's a good movie to watch for you other Halo fans.:D

http://halo.bungie.org/misc/warthogjumpmirrors.html

PIo Koon
07-22-2002, 07:35 PM
lol...yea ive seen that before...ive done it to..its fun

agentj64
07-22-2002, 10:20 PM
I litterlarly stopped modeling just to try that

omg what fun!

PIo Koon
07-22-2002, 10:35 PM
lol

dreddsnott
07-22-2002, 10:39 PM
I'm hoping it's going to be another great freaky model for people to use.

I only played Halo once, and that was 8-way multiplayer at a LAN party, so I have no idea what this sucker really looks like in action.

Looks like a great challenge for y'all. Keep up the good work.

PIo Koon
07-22-2002, 11:13 PM
might as well start asking


is there anyone here willing to MAP this Covenant Elite?

i would ask toonces but ive troubled him enough and he doesn't deserve more ####s =OD

so we need someone who can map good...and with the stolen yoda model...im not sending it to some new mapper or someone thats posts below 25 times...i don't want this stolen

so if u can map player models and are RESPECTABLE of the forums we'd really appreciate it

Sebulba-Dug
07-22-2002, 11:25 PM
Since I'm stupid when it comes to creating anything like this I have to pass, sorry I wasn't much help.

Sebulba-Dug
07-23-2002, 12:53 AM
I can start working on that, but I'm warning you, the poly count may be way up, but I'm sure with a little help from some people that I can pull it off. This is my way of saying thanks for making the Elite model.

PIo Koon
07-23-2002, 01:12 AM
u mean u can map it?

r u sure u can do it? i think it is a lil advanced of a model

Sebulba-Dug
07-23-2002, 01:28 AM
No no no, I can't map, I was telling Agent that I would make a Guilty Spark model for him and you for making this amazing model.

PIo Koon
07-23-2002, 01:33 AM
oo...maybe i shoulda read ur topic lol

Darth Xhan
07-23-2002, 02:59 AM
Well, for not being able to move like he should.. he's loking good.. a couple of issues.. His neck is a little too straight upward...(I realize most of that is due the human frame/pose he's "stuck" in. (The picture in the game's manual is about as upright as an actual Elite can get) and the top of his head should still be a little higher.. Are his arms long enough to prevent clipping in Red Stance? As for the Hunter.. I'm not sure you could get him at full heigth.. maybe a "hybrid" mini Hunter?.. The Human Flood can be done pretty easy as a skin, or just a remodeling of a standard humanoid model with "bits" and lumps.. As for an Elite Flood... that's a pretty serious undertaking, with the floppy "head" and all.. I would LOVE to see a Grunt model.. ROFL.. Just hearing "NO MORE" on a decapitation would make it worth it.. How are you guys going to implement dual bipartite symmetrical cheek/jawbones? If you're going to get super ambitious.. you could just release a "Halo Pack" (But then you'ld have to have seven models to match the sacred number ;) ) A Cortana skin with Jan would be stupid easy to do... If you guys find a skinner.. Why don't you ask IN the skinning section, and pick from the best person who wants to?

Sebulba-Dug
07-23-2002, 11:57 AM
Hey um... where can I post some pics for Guilty Spark? I have some 3d but it's still mostly 2d.

PIo Koon
07-23-2002, 07:20 PM
people still don't get things do they? =OP

#1just because a model has something a normal human doesn't, doesn't mean it WONT work..the floppy head will work..will it bob and move?...no..itll just be a part of the head..very simple to do

#2........read=OP...we ARE making a Halo Pack.........HMP=Halo Model Pack =OP

#3.......if u watched the video of the old version of Halo, where the marines infiltrate a covenant outpost and all of them die except one...ull see he gets chased down and the Elite stands over him and talks to him before Master Chief shoves the beam sword through his heart

if u look...he talks like a normal human...yes he has 4 mandables but to talk in english he moves both lower jaws at the same time...so that wouldn't be a problem

#4 the hunter...as i said in #1...it will work

#5i wasn't insulting u..just telling u =O)

agentj64
07-23-2002, 07:20 PM
try google.com's image search

Personally, against PIo's wishes, I'd probally send the models for ppl to skin...
I'm a polycounter, we're used to giving out SDKs for people to rip apart:d
Only thing i'll release it as a 3ds so you can all have fun with it skinning (any ambitous fool could easily strip a root.xsi and map each vertice which I plan to do to the best detail i can get, and release it, but that'd be a waste imho..)

Anyway I'm going idle for a day or two to finish some school work and I'll be back into modelling:d

Cya on the other side

As for a HALO model pack, I've thought about it, wth why not?

Hunter and all that? easily makeable.

The challenge to me is not making the model just finding damn refrence pics:p

I was REALLY thinking of making my own blah model but im sticking with halo, I'm going to find someone in there to do
most likely a grunt;)
Bring it on yoda !!!... "no more!!"
..


I was also REALLY going to MODEL the guns as well, but I haven't messed with the gun system yet, it looks just like quake3's format, tag barrel and flash, but i have no idea how any of it works, I'll figure it out.. i hope?..err..ok bye bye

if anyone can help me with how JK2 handles guns it'd be most appreciated :D

Sebulba-Dug
07-23-2002, 07:36 PM
If it is finsihed could we add my Guilty Spark model to the Halo Pack? I'm working on it, the angle seem weird but when I'm done I could send it to someone for finshing touches.

PIo Koon
07-23-2002, 07:41 PM
sure...i don't know how it will be used at allb ut sure

Sebulba-Dug
07-23-2002, 07:43 PM
That would be odd, he has no arms to hold the saber, he floats, he's small, these could be major problems...:eek:

agentj64
07-23-2002, 09:11 PM
Actually that would be amazing, do it!
all the body would be weighted to say, pelvis, heh, and the lightsaber etc would..just appear...

:)

theres no "bolt_weapon" (but there are bolt_l_hand etc..hrmm) so that the thing could appear there..

really send it my way if you can at least:)
alpha11@tampabay.rr.com

another neat thing would have guilty spark and a small stick man figure body under it:p

Sebulba-Dug
07-23-2002, 09:49 PM
There you go, I sent it so you can finish it, it's only the general shape. I'm a n00b modeler though so it sucks.

MensAlvearii
07-23-2002, 09:53 PM
I must say, this is one of the more ambitious models on display in this forum. I'm impressed that people are willing to try to work around the limitations of things like bone structure animation. I can't wait until this is done, I've always wanted to play as one of the Covenant in any game.

PIo Koon
07-23-2002, 09:54 PM
send me it to!!! =OD

SpartnII@hotmail.com

PS: those are i's NOT l's

Sebulba-Dug
07-23-2002, 09:57 PM
I sent it. Have fun, knock yourself out with it.

Sebulba-Dug
07-23-2002, 10:09 PM
How's the Elite coming?

PIo Koon
07-23-2002, 10:15 PM
good good...

i fixed the legs and made the mouth piece

its looking good but i think Agent could do better mouth pieces...so ill send him the one i made and see what he can come up with

Sebulba-Dug
07-23-2002, 10:16 PM
Excellent.... soon, my precious, soon....

Sebulba-Dug
07-23-2002, 10:17 PM
Did you get the Guilty Spark?

Sebulba-Dug
07-24-2002, 12:25 AM
Agent? Plo? Did this thread die?

PIo Koon
07-24-2002, 12:58 AM
yea sorry ive been busy

yea i got the model..but i was expecting a model lol..but it looks nice..keep working at it

Sebulba-Dug
07-24-2002, 01:09 AM
Now I'm sad.... :(

Sebulba-Dug
07-24-2002, 01:10 AM
Could I request a model from you for when you finish the Elite?

PIo Koon
07-24-2002, 01:31 AM
y r u sad???



and yes go ahead..dunno if i can do it but u can ask =O)

PIo Koon
07-24-2002, 02:29 PM
heres some updated pics

Agent didn't feel like modeling yesterday so i started to try and finish up the model...and im kind of pleased with how it turned out

i think i did an ok job, so let me know what u think =O)

http://renegade.grouphosting.net/images/Spartan/EliteClosed.jpg
http://renegade.grouphosting.net/images/Spartan/EliteOpen.jpg

although u can't really see it, the pink area in the open pic is the inside of his mouth

also im pleased with the lower jaws but not the top 2..they look to squareish..but im not sure if i can do much about that

agentj64
07-24-2002, 04:39 PM
God damn nice job heh, i'll touch it up and make them seperate objects, send me both, get on IRC and get me something to eat:d

I've finished my work for today, I need to re-read Dune for my 800th time now:d


nah

PIo Koon
07-24-2002, 05:04 PM
they are seperate objects...ever since u told me i should yesterday i took the time to make them seperate for ur sorry ass =OP ;)

*hits u* get in the kitchen and make ME a sandwhich biatch!

rofl ;)

Darth Xhan
07-24-2002, 07:26 PM
I would ask Arco, or sithlord II (through Arco) or MisterPunch.. but only after the model is completely finished AND tested...Arco has an awesome touch with transparencies that would serve the Elite Well.. I would go for Word and Will(black) and gold for Default, and of course Red/Blue for TFFA/CTF...

PIo Koon
07-24-2002, 07:31 PM
we were planning on having different variations of the model

4 tip

Gold, Red, Blue

4 tip 2

Black/Ops, Cloaker Blue, and Green(new kind)

Round head

Gold, Red, Blue

Round Head2

Black/Ops, Cloaker Blue, and Green(new kind)


or something like that

also i was planning on asking Bradfu if he wanted to skin the Elite but i think he said he doens't know how to use shaders...so ill check the ones u mentioned

also...ive just begun development of a NEW kind of Covenant Elite...that no one will expect ;)

if u want a hint...Zero: Stolen Property, the now dead Halo MOD(that i headed up) of C&C Renegade..thats all i will say

Darth Xhan
07-24-2002, 07:40 PM
Never saw that, so I wouldn't know in the least... =/

I formally volunteer for testing. I'm sure Sebulba Dug wouldn't mind either..lol Green? What's the significance? Or do you guys just like that color? ;)

If I could have any color, I would take Brown Armor with Yellow Skin. :D

Have you guys talked to menemeth about the Plasma Sword?

PIo Koon
07-24-2002, 07:54 PM
Beam Sword =OP...and he said he was making one but he hasn't talked to me about it at all..so i dunno

and green because we need another color..and green would look cool =O)

agentj64
07-24-2002, 09:24 PM
Don't get ahead of yourself=p

Darth Xhan
07-24-2002, 09:38 PM
You might ask misterpunch.. but I would be EXTREMELY tactful, seeing as how he's working on two other models right now.. but his Plo Kloon is INSANELY well done.. I would think he would be the guy for the job.. if he's not busy.

Sebulba-Dug
07-25-2002, 01:34 PM
Um, thanks Plo for even just listening for my request. The person I want is Tina from DOA3 here's a link to my site that has some pics of her:
http://www.geocities.com/thatsashot/DOA3G.html
(she's the blonde one) ;)

Sebulba-Dug
07-25-2002, 02:17 PM
or it might be easier to do Ayane (purple hair)

PIo Koon
07-25-2002, 02:25 PM
*does the austin powers things when allota "fa"china changed* lol

nah there just models im not desperate..don't worry lol

i dunno if i could make those though..ask a talented modeler...id fux0r them up lol

agentj64
07-25-2002, 02:31 PM
I was thinking about doing a chick
find some ideas if you can fer me:\

link dont owrk btw

Sebulba-Dug
07-25-2002, 03:12 PM
Did, you see the pics? Well, if you want to try I can help in any way possible, I don't want a really nice model I just want one that looks some-what like it and works.

PIo Koon
07-28-2002, 08:52 PM
hey everyone

ok were going back to this thread since it has more views lol

anyway if u haven't seen them..heres pics

http://www16.brinkster.com/bnkinc/EliteFinal.jpg
http://www16.brinkster.com/bnkinc/MasterCFinal.jpg
http://www16.brinkster.com/bnkinc/MasterCFinal2.jpg

Kururin
07-28-2002, 10:08 PM
This model looks great even though I've never played Halo.

Sebulba-Dug
07-28-2002, 10:39 PM
Wow, I would be ashamed to even consider adding my Guilty Spark "model" to that now. Great job.

PIo Koon
07-28-2002, 10:45 PM
lol sebulba..don't worry man..i mean what u sent us wasnt really a model...we will still make one ;)..maybe a sentinle to

Sebulba-Dug
07-28-2002, 11:55 PM
What I sent you have 5 mintues of half hearted work, I will finish this damn thing if it's the last thing I do! AHAHAHAHA DAMN YOU GMAX!!! WHY ARE YOU SO CHEAP!!! Sorry....