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D@rth M@ul
07-25-2002, 11:43 PM
Well, I dont see why death wouldn't play a major role in this game.

I mean, unless your character dies and is thus unplayable. That
wouldn't be too fun.

I don't think this topic has been touched by the devs.

virtualoctopus
07-26-2002, 11:47 AM
One thing I'd REALLY like in KOTOR is the fact that characters can die and stay dead.

So many RPGs make sure that you can ressurect the dead, nearly all make it so that losing a character other than in the very early game can be a MASSIVE blow to your party. I'd like this to be different in KOTOR, with the fact that someone might die an unstoppable fact. Wouldn't ANH have been much less powerful if Luke had gone back to the falcon and ressurected Obi-Wan using the force? Death should be a vital part of KOTOR's story, possibly if relationships are included a push towards the Dark Side for a character if a lover dies. I think this would be a great feature for the game.

Com Raven
07-30-2002, 08:15 AM
well, as soon as he dies, and stasy dead, ppl will just reload the game...

Exar Kun II
07-30-2002, 04:17 PM
If your character dies, then the game is over. You have no choice but to start again.

Com Raven
07-30-2002, 04:42 PM
and you think ppl would want that ?

Exar Kun II
07-30-2002, 10:24 PM
Originally posted by Com Raven
and you think ppl would want that ?


It's not a matter of what people want necessarily, it's how the game may be played. Just like in squad based games like Rogue Spear where one team member dies, the mission is over. Who can say at this point?:D

Darth Gurdash
07-30-2002, 10:50 PM
I would prefer that if my companions died they stayed dead as well as my enemies it's a plague in RPGs of returning villains and hero's.An interesting thing to do if you died would be to replace or regrow limbs/organs using bacta or cybernetic replacements(a good way to replace that arm you lost in the saber dual with another jedi)this adds a needed twist to the whole fight-die-true resurrection thing.

P.S.D&D t0ta33y R0xx0rs lol.

Com Raven
07-31-2002, 07:25 AM
well, Bio never did what you suggest...

plus, it's abit different if I have to do 20 mins of Rogue Spear mission, or 30 hours of Knights again...

Darth Gurdash
07-31-2002, 10:33 AM
Thats too bad it would have been really cool.now we'll probably get some kind of force resurrection BS. CRAP.They should have hired me as a consultant.



P.S.why would you relate an RPG to tacticle shooter anyway?

Exar Kun II
07-31-2002, 03:10 PM
Let's not jump to conclusions. What about in game save options. Save points where you can start over if your character dies. That would make sense. :D

Com Raven
07-31-2002, 07:17 PM
well, that's the same then....

why not let ppl save when they want ?

jingato
08-01-2002, 11:15 AM
I don't get it, what are people trying to say? :confused: Do you want your character to die the first day and then not be able to play the game anymore? That sounds kinda dumb
:hang1:

Com Raven
08-01-2002, 06:05 PM
in a nutshell, yes...;)

Old_Ben
08-01-2002, 06:20 PM
Personally If I'm going to buy this game I don't want play for a few minutes die and then never be able to play again, or spend many hours playing and then have to start over. I think what D@rth M@ul and virtualoctopus were trying to say, though was that if one of your companions died they should not be able to be ressurected and then come back to help you. You should have to go find someone else to help you out. Which is actually a good idea, but not being able to save isn't.

Com Raven
08-01-2002, 06:36 PM
yeah, but you can't resuurect them, ppl just reload

virtualoctopus
08-02-2002, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by Com Raven
yeah, but you can't resuurect them, ppl just reload


This is what I'm getting at :

You've just been through a big boss fight. One of your companions is dead. Your last save is before the boss, at the last place you could save it. You don't want to go back and do the boss again, as it took you many attempts.

Your companion is dead. You have the choice to go back and do it all again, or continue without him. When people die in Star Wars, they stay dead. (or come back as blue ghosts). I think many people would choose to continue.

Com Raven
08-02-2002, 01:35 PM
Now I see your point, sorry...

yeah, some would continue...

I would do it again....

Ewok Hunter
08-03-2002, 10:42 PM
I hope they put some way to revive dead party members. if those people want 'realistic deaths' then they can just not revive them. :D

Old_Ben
08-04-2002, 12:35 AM
Mabey they'll mke the game with many opportunities to pick up new party members so you wont care so much losing one companion.

Com Raven
08-04-2002, 06:20 AM
well, we know there will be around 10 npcs...

Ewok Hunter
08-04-2002, 07:16 PM
i remember hearing something about only having like 2 or 3 npc with you at a time...

Com Raven
08-07-2002, 07:18 AM
it's 2 at a time, plus you...

Ewok Hunter
08-07-2002, 03:04 PM
wow only 2, how can we execute flank attacks and stuff with this few people. soon you'll be saying that we won't be able to direcly control their actions :p

Com Raven
08-07-2002, 03:19 PM
you won't...

but in cotrary to NWN, you can control any one of them at a time...

Ewok Hunter
08-07-2002, 04:26 PM
that's better, at least one of them won't go running strait into the enemy formation :D

Com Raven
08-08-2002, 02:49 PM
hmm, in my case it's good they do...

Daelan runs in, and my sneak attacks finish 'em...

Ewok Hunter
08-08-2002, 10:09 PM
well, in the Docks I was try to loot all the bodies that he killed, but he kept running off to go fight half the sailors in the area and promptly geting killed :(

Com Raven
08-11-2002, 06:49 AM
set him ro follow or guard ....

Ewok Hunter
08-11-2002, 02:29 PM
yeah, i eventually used 2 quickslots with hold and follow comands to controll him, but it was annoying until then...

remark 666
08-12-2002, 03:20 AM
are there going to be scars/permanent wounds from major attacks ? those could be healed later using bacta or some sort of med kit

Com Raven
08-12-2002, 04:14 AM
not that I'd know off, but you will limp along if heavily wounded for example...

remark 666
08-12-2002, 04:16 AM
at least some sort of realistic damage ^_^

Ewok Hunter
08-12-2002, 10:51 PM
of course if they include the usual resting stuff then most people will only be limping during battles :p

Com Raven
08-13-2002, 04:25 AM
well. it's usual business to tend to wounded soldiers...

jedi qin-jon
08-19-2002, 08:25 PM
i dont get y you would want to be dead for :mob: :explode: :duel: :atat:

Ewok Hunter
08-19-2002, 09:31 PM
uh, explination? a whole bunch of violent smiles doesn't exacly explain what you mean:confused:

Com Raven
08-20-2002, 05:41 AM
I think he wants to kill us all.....