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-[MotU]-Lyger|=-
07-29-2002, 01:23 AM
witch one would win? Anakin, ya know why? cause why else would yoda be hiding on degobah, so HA! all you yoda lovers out there can go bite the big one cause he loses this time

Arkum
07-29-2002, 01:28 AM
normally yoda would ANAKIN's stupid a$$. But vader would annihilate yoda if he ever got the chance.

Eklin
07-29-2002, 02:58 AM
If you go by Episode 2, Yoda would most definitely kick some padawan ass.
But, eventually Yoda gets old(er) and starts to look (more) like a raisin.
Meenwhile, Vader is out pumpin' iron, eating raw eggs, and running back and forth through the corridors of the death star (plays theme to 'Charriots of Fire').
So, yeah, Vader would kick some (old, wrinkly... *shudders*) ass.

<<SlashCrash>>
07-29-2002, 03:18 AM
how about this : yoda would kick anakins ass and then vader would hop out of nowhere and burn yodas buns , and then anakin (who is dying) would backstab vader!1! and they would all die and make way 4 the new generation:jawa

thehomicidalegg
07-29-2002, 03:48 AM
but vader was sooo slow....

GoneFishing
07-29-2002, 04:30 AM
i mean are you kidding, vader was born to kick yoda in the @ss.
:duel:

Pad
07-29-2002, 06:02 AM
Anakin is a bit too impulsive so he would lose.

as for vader, i guess he would fry the little raisin (yoda)

vizor
07-29-2002, 09:50 AM
i think vader would win because yoda is 900 when vader was on the first deathstar.
he were to old to fight with vader.

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BUT IF ANAKIN fights against yoda he will lose nothing to discuss.


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"they will not ahve a chance against you"
Sidious

HertogJan
07-29-2002, 10:52 AM
Ah comon, Yoda can't even kick Reborn's ass! He could barely fight Dooku!

NwO_2k_Mutt
07-29-2002, 11:27 AM
cant beat dooku ?! he looked to me to hold his own.. And you ever think that Yoda didnt want to kill Anakin, after all Anikan is supposed to balance the force. Seems to me that is destined that he has to fight Luke in the future.

razorace
07-29-2002, 03:22 PM
Actually, Yoda was suppose to be overwhelming Count Dooku. In the original ending Yoda actually knocked Dooku down and was going to finish him except Dooku then tried to drop the big thingy onto Obi and Anakin, etc, etc.

HellFyre69
07-29-2002, 06:27 PM
But lyger said... ANAKIN!!!... even though we all know he's turning to the dark side "darth vader" he doesnt go by the name of Anakin... So i'm assuming he means the ep2 anakin, cuz he goes by the name of Anakin in ep2..

But vader will sure kill yoda, cuz yoda will be old and all... Yoda wounnt even able to hold his saber!

Guardian Omega
07-29-2002, 11:56 PM
Bah I say they're even, Dooku and Yoda. If you didn't notice, size doesn't matter when using the force. Yoda could barely hold up that **** pillar. So Dooku must've made Yoda go to the max.

HellFyre69
07-30-2002, 12:07 AM
I think yoda struggle the pillar, because it was... ummm heavy!?...

I would like to see you try hold a pillar when ur like 700+ years old.

Naphtali
07-30-2002, 01:25 AM
Anakin would last but because of impatience he would loose eventually, although with raw ability he is more powerful, vadar would disentiergrate him

Darth Groovy
07-30-2002, 02:04 AM
Well I think Vader one anyway since he outlives Yoda in Return of the Jedi by almost an hour. Plus he never gave much thought about going after Vader anyways so he spent the rest of his golden years hanging around the swamp, playing with his snake, cooking soup, and......oh yeah , he trained Luke!


P.S. Naphtali, that is the best Avatar I have ever seen period!

Breton
07-30-2002, 06:06 AM
Yoda was the greatest jedi in sw, no doubt of that. He could easily have beaten Vader, but he did not for serveral reasons.

1. Vader/Anakin was supposed to bring balance in the force

2. He did not have to beat just Vader, he also had to beat the Emperor and 5 million stormtroopers.

Lunatic Jedi
07-30-2002, 06:10 AM
Well, if it was the same Yoda that fought Anakin who fought Vader, I think Yoda would still win. If it was 900-year old Yoda fighting Vader, Yoda wouldn't stand a chance, but at 700, Yoda was still kicking.

Also, it was easier for Dooku to break the pillar than it was for Yoda to hold it cause of a little thing called GRAVITY. :rolleyes:

DSpawn
07-30-2002, 07:51 AM
Originally posted by HellFyre69
I think yoda struggle the pillar, because it was... ummm heavy!?...

I would like to see you try hold a pillar when ur like 700+ years old.


On Degobah Yoda teaches Luke that size does not matter with the force, and I frankly think that the second movie messes up in this respect. The size of the pillar shouldnt matter to Yoda, but they precent it in the movie as he really have to work on it hard because of its weight.

Yoda's age doesnt matter at all, its not his body doing the fighting for him it is the force, and his ability to manipulate the force does not grow weaker because his body does. Vader would still win though, because he is a "vergence" in the force, nobody has the ability to utilize so much force as him, when he was Annakin he hadnt learned how to do it just yet. Luke probably is far above many others though, being the son of a "vergence in the force" but still weaker than Vader

Lord_FinnSon
07-30-2002, 02:04 PM
I think you people got it wrong. That pillar's size didn't matter or even gravity pulling it down, but instead Yoda had to quickly break out from the duel AND concentrate to hold it up in the air. It's not like he could do it just like that, but he has to forget everything else surrounding him while he is doing it, and beating Dooku was his primary mission at the time, so him being afraid that Dooku escapes(just like he did) also makes it harder. Just look ESB again and you will see that Yoda has to really concentrate to lift X-Wing out from the swamp unlike Luke who is too reckless. Have you forgotten his teachings, my padawan learners? :rolleyes:

Back to actual topic again. I have no doubt that Yoda would beat Vader. Even though he's old and his body is slowly dying, he can tap into the Force(just like he did in the AOTC) and let it move his body intuitively; it's like instant Force boost that he can enable when he's in the right state of mind. The letdown is that it asks a lot of powers and concentration and I really doubt he could do it longer period of time than he had to with Dooku; he never was cheating and just playing old crippled hermit like some people seem to believe, but he really was in that physical state and that's why he pulls back his cane after duel.

Now, Vader's armour limits his movement too much for him to keep up with the speed of Yoda. Only way he might win the Master might be doing evasive moves again and again until Yoda doesn't have enough power to keep him in constant motion, fight againts him ONLY using the Force and somehow break his concentration just like Dooku did taking that pillar down and THEN go for the kill. Then again, the question arises: can Vader really evade all those hits that Yoda will be pulling long enough or will the Master shred him to pieces too quickly? ;)

I somehow imagine a scene where Vader escapes from the "rage" of Yoda, aboards shuttle, takes quick trip to the Death Star and then blows up the planet where Yoda is at the time. That way he would surely win. :D

BlackDove
07-30-2002, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by -=|Lyger|=-
witch one would win? Anakin, ya know why? cause why else would yoda be hiding on degobah, so HA! all you yoda lovers out there can go bite the big one cause he loses this time


Where is the "I want to stab Lyger 20 times with a dull knife" option?

NwO_2k_Mutt
07-30-2002, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by Lunatic Jedi
Well, if it was the same Yoda that fought Anakin who fought Vader, I think Yoda would still win. If it was 900-year old Yoda fighting Vader, Yoda wouldn't stand a chance, but at 700, Yoda was still kicking.

Also, it was easier for Dooku to break the pillar than it was for Yoda to hold it cause of a little thing called GRAVITY. :rolleyes:



?!?!?! Is Yoda in his own time warp or something ?

Uhm in ep2 Yoda is 700 and some change right......keep with me here

Then how in the sam hell is he 900 in ESB ???????????????????

There is only like a 20 years difference bro do the math !

HellFyre69
07-30-2002, 10:29 PM
Well.. in esb.. Yoda Looks a lot older than in AOTC... I guess is because he had a disease or something, cuz he looks like he's more than 700++++++ years old in ESB

Dath Maximus
07-30-2002, 10:30 PM
Originally posted by =SSC=Kal-El



Where is the "I want to stab Lyger 20 times with a dull knife" option?

ditto. he has insulted the yoda

Ben_Walker
07-31-2002, 01:58 AM
Say their both in their prime.

Yoda: Sometime before AOTC

Vader: ESB

I think Yoda would win due to the fact that Vader's suit would slow him down and Yoda has the speed slash factor.

-[MotU]-Lyger|=-
07-31-2002, 04:42 AM
you got a good point there buddy, but Anakin would still win, and im not refering to ep 2 anakin or ep 1 anakin, im talkina bout anakin in general

Lizzano
08-01-2002, 07:13 AM
Judge Yoda by his age do you? You should not! For the force is his ally and a powerful ally it is.

MaulerZ
08-01-2002, 09:24 AM
#### this thread Yoda is skrewed either way!!!!! :mad: :disaprove Once again i have a knack for stateing the ovious

scottb
08-01-2002, 03:15 PM
Fully trained Anakin is supposed to be the most powerful Jedi ever. Remember the bit about the Midi-Chlorians how Anakin has a higher Midi-Chlorian count than even Yoda. Which means he has the potential to be stronger in the force than Yoda. So I think that fully trained Anakin could beat Yoda in a saber fight.

Darth Talliusc
08-02-2002, 02:20 AM
pure potential anakins got more, knowledge yodas got more. if you want the EU explanation (i hear jedi-monk groaning somewhere) then yoda hid because he reached the "pinnacle" of his jedi existence, same as obi-wan. apparently there comes a time when jedi feel the need to put down their saber and be at peace. occasionally the jedi are called back but only in dire circumstances (first dstar for example)

and kal el seriously, why have you been so grumpy recently? that was harsh man.

scottb
08-08-2002, 11:33 PM
Obi-Wan Kenobi even said so himself in Episode II that if Anakin paid more attention to his saber training his skills would rival that of master Yoda's.

Arkum
08-08-2002, 11:40 PM
yeah, but he doesn't and Obi whoops anakin's arse.

JrKASperov
08-09-2002, 05:26 AM
Come on, nothing can beat Yoda except age people.... just LEARN!