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Matariel
07-31-2002, 09:42 AM
Okay, ive seen a few requests for this, so im gunna start this thread to get some opinions of what to do

I wanna make an Evangelion model (either the mecha or a human character), ive made a poll at the top of the thread, vote on the options and make some comments.

Eva was voted many times in japan as the best anime series ever created, and i agree, so why not make a model for it? :)

Lord Infamous
07-31-2002, 02:56 PM
sound good Matariel, im personally a big fan of the series, but the funny thing is i cant remeber what Auskas is called, ill just say the Red one. i think it would look the most appropriate for jo

dreddsnott
07-31-2002, 03:47 PM
Honestly, I'm tired of giant robots. I voted for human...

Kn1ves
07-31-2002, 04:05 PM
Not only am I sick of giant robots, Evangelion is one of the worst over-hyped animes in history and the robots are UGLY :rolleyes:

dreddsnott
07-31-2002, 04:34 PM
Oh yeah, I voted for Rei. Just so I can dismember her.

Still, shouldn't the focus be on characters that use energy swords or futuristic blasters, such as the characters of Tenchi Muyo! or the various Gundams?

trowa500
07-31-2002, 04:35 PM
there are only 2 robot series worth makin models for gundam and robotech all other robot series suck very bad

dreddsnott
07-31-2002, 04:48 PM
:wstupid:

I'll trust you, Trowa500, seeing as you present yourself as an expert on the subject matter at hand.

DarkJedi91681
07-31-2002, 06:00 PM
I beg to differ very much, Evangelion IS one of the best series eva. the story was deep and captavating, Gundam and Robotech are of course other great series that are classics. but evangelion is very much up there in my opinion. I SAY UNIT 1 BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my prayers are finally going to be answered :):):):) and plus witht he two movies being released this is just perfect!!!!!!!!!!:) go for unit 1, he kicks major A$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ :)

Shadow D.A.N
07-31-2002, 08:07 PM
I say humen wit the suit they use and the robot that the boy uses

and i whant to say that im that im only a fan of anime that is funny like tenchi muyo, love hina, full metal panic, Evangelion and trigun

Galactic Magi
08-01-2002, 12:36 AM
funny anime are my favorite, but sometimes the serious animes can be great. You should see Key the Metal and youll know what im talking about. The storylines just hook you.

Matariel
08-01-2002, 05:03 AM
i admit that the evas may be a bit out of place in jk2 (since they are supposed to be really huge), but you could change the lightsaber to a Lance of Longinus, to make it fit into the game, or even a larger version of the progressive knife

and to Kn1ves, Eva IS the best anime out there, case closed.
It has more depth than most american series or hollywood movies, that also means about 5 times the depth of any other anime. Not that i think all other anime is crap, i love the genre...but ive only seen a few.

I grew up on robotech back in the eighties, and recently ive had a revival....ive also seen Akira (which is excellent) and BGC:Tokyo2040 (which im making a model from)

Also, Eva's are NOT robots, contrary to popular opinion. If ya wanna get technical, they are gods :) Lets see what you have to say about that! :)

PS,
Shinji's Eva is Unit-01 (purple)
Rei's is Unit-00 (orange, then blue)
Asuka's is Unit-02 (Red)
Toji's is unit-03 (Black, i think, or dark purple/red)
Unit-04 exploded, but is silver apparently
The productions eva's are White with big angelic wings

I'll post some pictures on my website and give u the url soon

Matariel
08-01-2002, 05:50 AM
okay a few pictures are up, to give u a feel for each of the 3 main evas and the characters

enjoy!

http://www.geocities.com/nerv_matariel/

Matariel
08-03-2002, 04:29 AM
okay, this thread has slipped onto the 3rd page, so i'll just let you know about a few things...

My Bubblegum Crisis model will probably be completed alongside this evangelion model. So thats good news to all you guys who wanted me to finish it (all three of you)

Also, i still want more suggestions on which model to make, so far ive had ppl wanting Unit-01 and Unit-05, as well as Unit-03/Unit-04...and one guy asked for a Rei model :)

Whichever character/eva gets the most response will be made first (hear that? i'll probably make more :) )

-[MotU]-Lyger|=-
08-03-2002, 07:27 AM
i havent watched taht sho in a long time. umm make Asuka's gear or Shinji's

remark 666
08-03-2002, 07:57 AM
make Asuka, new head and new skin = Rei :)

I have the full set on DVD, how dare you say that borring Gundam Wing is better then this ? heh

I actually fell alspeep watching Endless Walts (2 times)

Freeto
08-03-2002, 01:25 PM
Hey! Im new to JKII, But i was a big modder in the Swat3 community. I was working on an Eva Model for swat 3 but due to their poly count restrictions i abandoned the idea of making a model for swat. Now that i find Jediknight will be able to support it i can apply my mesh and make a model. I only have the upper half completed. It is the Eva-O prototype. If anyone wants screenshots or would like to colaborate on this with me that would be cool. I havent made a model for JK yet but hope to , and when that time comes, I'm not sure if i know exactly how to do it. Somebody please contact me and let me know if i can help.

my aol and msn names are thedour
email newky@canada.com

Matariel
08-04-2002, 06:30 AM
okey dokey, well if you could post some screenshots to see what youve done, that'd be cool

not many ppl have asked for Unit-00, so if you want to continue on that, i'll do unit-01 and unit-02 :)

i think the human models will come after the 'mecha', (it easier to weight, because metal is rigid) and i still have reservations over the hair issue (if you dont know what i'm talkin about, i just dont like the 'stiffness' of the hair, it doesnt fit anime very well)

But, Unit-01 seems to be top of the list so far, with Unit-02 close second

Kn1ves
08-04-2002, 02:50 PM
But Mecha animes are sooooooooOOOOOOOoooooooooooooOOOOOOOoooooooo corny! Even the most innovative one, Escaflowne, had the sentence "We added these just to sell to little kiddies" written all over the Guymelefs ("Armours" (Quit the charade, it's a Mecha :| )).

Anyhow
Make a Vash The Stampede model, Trigun is just THE best anime series ever :D

Duncan Idaho
08-04-2002, 11:16 PM
Personally, I like Eva much better than Gundam or any of the others, but you can't compare them, they're really two different beasts entirely, so to the guy who said Eva sucked, I have two words for you: Your opinion. :p
My opinion is the other way around. :)
But to the point, I'd vote for Rei first as a model. If you're going to do an Eva, only Unit-05 would interest me, since it looks so...beastly. But I honestly don't believe I'd use it, so don't consider it a vote. Rei I might use, if it were extremely well done...(Read not just a Jan skin with normal non-anime eyes or what have you, but a real Anime looking Rei MODEL).
So there's my vote. :D
Oh, and for the record, I agree with the guy who said the bit about maybe this model not being exactly suited to Jedi, I pointed out in another thread long ago that Ryoko from Tenchi Muyo would be the ideal Anime model to add into JK2. I mean, she has her own saber, and needs no hilt. I'm honestly surprised no one has done her yet, she's perfect for JK2. Same for Nagi, and even Tenchi with Tenchi-ken (his sword). Or Yosho. Need I say more? :)
Idaho

dreddsnott
08-05-2002, 03:44 AM
Heck, even Kenshin would be great! That would be nifty, whether he had a lightsaber or sword.

I still throw in my vote for Ayanami Rei, and, as a secondary option, the production Eva's.

Glad to hear about Unit 00, Freeto. I kind of like the looks of it anyways. :)

BradFu
08-05-2002, 04:03 AM
I'm not going to vote on this one, since I don't particularly care for the style of the Evangelion units (MASSIVELY long/thin midsection), looks a little weird (never seen the show). I personally am always up for mecha-based Anima, just cause I think mecha are cool :) For those that are really into the Anime thing, do they intentionally name some of the shows completely ridiculous things that remind one of songs by Japanese pop singers on purpose? IE, Cowboy Bepop, Bubblegum Crisis. Some Japanese pop music consists entirely of random words that are easily associated with American culture, and thats what some of these Anime titles remind me of. Anywho, for those that like Evangelion, hope this turns out well :) Maybe I'll check out the show someday.

Deetox187
08-05-2002, 04:03 AM
Have any of you guys watched a series called Berserk? I think a model of Gatsu with that BIGASS sword of his would be super cool to play with in JK2. But ya EVA is a hell of a great series too, my vote goes to Rei's Unit-00, only cause i think Rei is cute. :)

Matariel
08-05-2002, 05:08 AM
okay, despite a few people asking for a rei model, my first model will be an Eva, and i think i'm going to do Unit-01

i just need to get some nice reference pictures together before i start, if anyone can help me with this, it would be greatly appreciated

remark 666
08-05-2002, 07:46 AM
hell yeah, I've been begging Joe "KETO" to make Gattz, that series was THE best, him and his HUGE ass sword, in the beggining it seemed a little borring but it got sooo good towards the end, damn, that was the best series, have you read the manga ? it actually continues more into the story then the show, it has a "real" ending to it, I'm getting the DVDs one by one, only the first two are out, they kickass

and if you want pictures of Evangelion (whatever one it is, I can send them all), drop me a line on AIM (PM me and I'll tell you my screen name)

Freeto
08-05-2002, 03:09 PM
Hey regarding the models, Basically the bodies are the same on all the characters right.... I mean Unit-0 has the big shoulder things but other than that we can make all the models from a base mesh. We can alternate heads and add or remove the big shoulders... Anyways I'll get those shots up soon. But think about that base model idea... depending on how far you all are.. It might be a good boost to start with some ready to use mesh.

{xg}darthVADER
08-06-2002, 06:15 PM
just finish your bubblegum crisis model its way better than a Evangelion model
sinds i'm making a map based on bubblegum crisis i would like to have an model if one of the girls =]]]

Deetox187
08-06-2002, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by remark 666
hell yeah, I've been begging Joe "KETO" to make Gattz, that series was THE best, him and his HUGE ass sword, in the beggining it seemed a little borring but it got sooo good towards the end, damn, that was the best series, have you read the manga ? it actually continues more into the story then the show, it has a "real" ending to it, I'm getting the DVDs one by one, only the first two are out, they kickass

and if you want pictures of Evangelion (whatever one it is, I can send them all), drop me a line on AIM (PM me and I'll tell you my screen name)

Hehe nice to meet someone who likes Berserk as much as i do, its my all time favorite series by FAR. And yes indeed i have read "some" of the manga (couldn't get english translates of all of it) but at least i know how the story really ends (the ending of the anime was a joke). Another sweet model to make would be Nosferatu Zodd, he was so badass, hell even Griffith would be cool. :)

Matariel
08-07-2002, 01:04 AM
i AM going to finish the BGC model (Priss), its just the hips arms and legs to go :) (then the arduous task of actually getting it into the game) I'll keep updating the renders every once and a while on my website, so check there every so often

{xg}darthVADER, ho can u make a BGC map anyway? its just city streets right?

anyway, i will make a Unit-01 model, but i need 2 referance pics...
One full body shot from the front, and one full body shot from the side

I also have the complete set of DVD's (except Death&Rebirth cos it dont come out in Australia till Aug14) so capping is no problem, but i dont think they even have a full length shot of the evas in any episode....so if anyone has CONCEPT art, these are most useful :)

Galactic Magi
08-07-2002, 02:07 AM
make sure this one gets to jediknightii.net The gundam model still hasnt arrived there yet.

Galactic Magi
08-07-2002, 02:23 AM
just read your post in the other thread matariel, i just got back from vacation (^ ^ Comic-con!). ill try to take the pictures of the EVA-04 tommorow, but it might be a day after because i have to wait for my brother to go to work (hell kill me if i touch it). i wont be able to change its position either so ill just have to take more pics. Oh well.

Galactic Magi
08-07-2002, 02:26 AM
would the angels be too hard. Some of them look ALOT better then the EVA's

Matariel
08-07-2002, 04:34 AM
kewl thanks

i dont agree with you on the angels vs evas (which looks better)
but it might be cool to have some, what did you have in mind?

surely not Iruel (Ep13, 'Angel Invasion') :)

{xg}darthVADER
08-07-2002, 05:34 AM
{xg}darthVADER, ho can u make a BGC map anyway? its just city streets right?

nope i'm making the knight sabers base
you know that clothing store

Matariel
08-07-2002, 11:39 AM
aahh sweet, the silky doll

i hope you're doing the 'pit' as well right?

{xg}darthVADER
08-07-2002, 02:20 PM
how could i forget the pit
erm if it is not to much to ask do you have any good ref pics of the silky doll?

Freeto
08-07-2002, 11:28 PM
hey I have all the models/action figures for the characters. (the nice Japanesse ones) I can take pictures of them from any angle you want... that how im doing my model and its turning out great to have something tangible. ask about a model and an angle and i'll get you pictures.

Scav
08-07-2002, 11:43 PM
I could write a message a mile long based on the ill-formed opinions and the snap-judgements made by a lot of you. *coughkn1vescough*

Be it as it may, I'm referring you to www.animeacademy.com .. to save anime face from the beating it took here. Kn1ves especially.

dreddsnott
08-08-2002, 03:50 AM
Look out, everybody! It's an elitist!!

All kidding aside, Scav, there are some rather knee-jerk reactions and blanket statements in this thread, but I don't think it's anyone's duty, or even possible, to change someone's opinion about anime without actually sitting them down and watching it with them. Watching the stuff subbed usually helps a lot to give someone an evenhanded opinion. ;)

Matariel
08-08-2002, 04:24 AM
anybody who can provide reference shots of any of the evas, that will be greatly appreciated (this means one shot directly from the front, and one shot directly from the side)

Eva-01 in particular for starters, i'll probably start next week if i can get some reference pics

Freeto
08-09-2002, 12:53 PM
Hey everyone. This is mainly for Material, he shows interest. Here are links to pictures of the torso... as well as a picture of the mapping file for the textures on the head. (note the torso has one smoothing group applied to it)

*edit*hey actually these links werent working if you click on them... just paste them into the address bar.

http://www.geocities.com/woods45house/back.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/woods45house/front.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/woods45house/frontlow.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/woods45house/miscangle.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/woods45house/profile.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/woods45house/Headmaps.jpg

If any of those are too dark to see well... e-mail me @ newky@canada.com and I can get better coloration for you.

DARTHMCGILL
08-09-2002, 12:59 PM
Why make an anime character for STAR WARS JEDI KNIGHT II. The people who make models that are non Star Wars should go back to Quake 3 where they belong.

Freeto
08-09-2002, 01:40 PM
Hey Darth from Hickville... mind your own please... I don't even watch anime... I am a computer animation major in college and I happen to think the character from evangelion is very detailed and sharp looking. This isn't about a stupid infatuation with anything anime...

... and another thing, being as I am a computer animation major, I will most likely be making all the games you will love to play in a few years, so deal with it. Hate me know, but later you won't be complaining.

DarkVash
08-09-2002, 06:07 PM
Even though it is star wars it is fun to try new things that has nothing to do with it. i mean i have the gundam model and he is just cool looking. oyea my "twocents" EVA-01 all the way baby yea.
p.s. good luck with your animation major freeto:D

Quote: Time is everflowing, neverchaging

Shadow D.A.N
08-09-2002, 08:14 PM
GO Freeto :D
thats telling him :D
damn right :D
give him hell (Haha):D

(:eek: I'll move on to somting ells no lets see a yes)

I'll be looking foward to seeing u r work mr. Freeto
always cool to see modeling att work

Matariel
08-11-2002, 05:15 AM
hey freeto, that looks pretty cool, are u actually making a model for jk2, or is this part of a uni assignment or something?

anyway, looks good :)

as soon as i have some basic reference pics, i'll start Eva-01, unless i get Death & Rebirth on wednesday (it's released in Australia then) :)

the ref's dont have to be perfect, just a full body shot for all the needed angles (front and side) If ANYBODY has some concept art for this (ive seen many anime concepts where they show a character/mecha from every angle) it would be very helpful, and i'll definitely give you the model first personnally upon completion

Freeto
08-13-2002, 01:44 AM
Thanks Material. I'm just doing this model for the fun of it actually. Now as i mentioned before I am using figures I have for reference.. so instead of taking the pictures myself (actually the only one i dont have is the 01 unit) I'll proivide these links to the manufacturer site. It will show up as a collage like thing initially. just click on one square to get a better view of each. I have included a link for all the EVA units even though you really just need the 01. Let me know if that helps. I'll be posting more update pictures of my model.

http://www.kaiyodo.co.jp/moka/product/af/eva/eva01/moka.html
http://www.kaiyodo.co.jp/moka/product/af/eva/eva01ex/moka.html
http://www.kaiyodo.co.jp/moka/product/af/eva/eva00kai_repaint/moka.html
http://www.kaiyodo.co.jp/moka/product/af/eva/eva02/moka.html
http://www.kaiyodo.co.jp/moka/product/af/eva/eva03/moka.html
http://www.kaiyodo.co.jp/moka/product/af/eva/eva04/moka.html

(and here is the 05 it looks stupid; thats just my opinion)
http://www.kaiyodo.co.jp/moka/product/af/eva/eva05/00.html

ok now for a few of the characters

http://www.kaiyodo.co.jp/moka/product/af/eva/asuka/00.html
http://www.kaiyodo.co.jp/moka/product/af/eva/rei_repaint/00.html

hope those help...

Matariel
08-13-2002, 01:57 AM
thanks freeto, sounds good :)

u know i'd love to do your uni course, but they dont offer anything like that where i live :( just stuck with plain old 'computer science' oh well, i get to choose a bunch of electives or a minor next year, so im hoping to do modelling/animation type units

Matariel
08-17-2002, 09:32 AM
okey dokey people, ive now finally gotten my Death & Rebirth DVD (which rocks) so now i'm quite revved up about making this model.

Ive got some assignments to do this week for uni, but as soon as i start the model, i'll make a new thread and it will be cool

Now ive got 2 months for End Of Evangelion to come out, and hopefully i'll have a working model before then :)

DarthDarth
08-17-2002, 02:51 PM
My Comp has been down, I've been wanting to post on this for so long. Eva is indeed my favorite anime. The characters are so complex, unlike the typical funimation animes (like dragonb ball). The first time I watched Eva thru I felt so weird becuase of the last two episodes...yea u know....but Indeed I voted for Eva unit 1

SPOILERS AHEAD Why? Why? Why, why do I want to pilot unit one? To Pilot Eva?

Because Unit One Can Go Monkey on Angel's asses. You know your bad ass when you just eat someone. Shinji's Mom (Soul trapped in Eva 1) must be one pissed of women. Sure Eva unit 2 is cool and Eva unit 0 looks cool....but come on.....they can't just eat people....

Hell if you want, model a universal body and the seperate heads....really all the bodys are the same right? They just have different paint jobs.

But if you do make a person, make it Asuka, not only cause shes hot...but because she will have the best taunts. Or make it Gendo Ikari (The Master Of Human Chess) Cause he is ass bad ass as monkey eva unit 1.

Well I'll be keeping a close eye on this project ^_^

Good Day All,
DarthDarth

Matariel
08-19-2002, 04:49 AM
wow, thats a deep comment :)

thanks for the input, but as i said, ive got some assignments to do, but i may start on Unit-01 by this friday (with possibly a finished head by the weekend)

btw, the last 2 episodes got a lot of flak in japan and Anno (the director/writer) got death threats from hardcore fans (!) Thats why he made Death/Rebirth, and Air/My heart to you (End of Evangelion)

but my opinion is that you needed to see ep25 and 26 to know what goes on in shinji's mind during intrumentality (in My Heart To You) and how he goes on to 'save the world' in a screwed up kinda way :)

for those who dont have a clue what i'm on about, rent or watch the series IN ORDER, then watch the movies (The english dub of Death/Rebirth is out now, End of Eva will be in about a month)