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SunBurN
07-31-2002, 04:43 PM
I'm just curious on average what speed of machine everyone is using? I'll start. The basic specs for my development/gaming machine are:

1.53Ghz AMD Athalon
512MB DDR RAM
Gforce 3 128MB Ti200
1.5mb Cable
Windows 2000
JK2 radiant

Basically I want to know this so I can determine what percentage of ppl out there are using lower end machines and I can plan my future maps accordingly since it seems that the larger the map I make, the more of a hit in performance it takes on slower computers despite using good mapping techniques and caulking. Anyways, thanks!

Kengo
07-31-2002, 04:47 PM
You're just showing off :D

Kengo
07-31-2002, 04:50 PM
1.33 Athlon
256 MB RAM
60 Gig HD
Geforce 2
56k :(
Windows XP
JK2 Radiant
:eyeraise:

Emon
07-31-2002, 05:39 PM
-Antech 350-watt dual fan dual ball bearing power supply
-Gigabyte 7DXR motherboard
-1.53 GHz Athlon
-GeForce 3 Ti 200 @ 200/460 MHz
-Soundblaster PCI128 4-channel
-IBM 40 GB, 7,200 RPM, UDMA 100 120GXP HDD
-Dual 6 GB, 5,400 RPM, UDMA 33 HDDs in RAID 0 (stripe)
-LG 52x CD-ROM
-ProView, 17", .27 dot-pitch CRT
-Fisher STV-862 with Sherwood S-7200 amp and Premiere SP-115 speakers
-Microsoft WheelMouse Optical USB
-Key Tronic KB101 keyboard
-Jedi Outcast 1x1" case sticker

:D

AND

-Windows 2000 Professional Service Pack 2 fully updated
-GTKRadiant 1.2.10

:D

SunBurN
07-31-2002, 06:47 PM
oh yeah and a 19" fp790 flatscreen Viewsonic monitor.......now I'm showing off :D

Emon
07-31-2002, 07:00 PM
Damn you ARE showing off! ViewSonic kicks ass, my dad just got a great ViewSonic 19". It's really nice.

SunBurN
07-31-2002, 07:20 PM
Got a good deal on it! A friend of mine who works for M$ bought a 19" flat panel and sold me the viewsonic for $100!!! Sweet deal..it's brand new..he only had it 2 months! :)

Emon
07-31-2002, 07:58 PM
Why the hell would you take a 19" LCD over a 19" CRT?? LCDs SUCK ASS! CRTs are AWESOME!

RichDiesal
07-31-2002, 08:24 PM
A PerfectFlat Viewsonic beats an LCD any day... dunno why he'd get rid of it. He'll probably change his mind in a few days. ;)

Speaking of which... this is my current system, tho it will be undergoing a massive overhaul within a couple of weeks:

Pentium III 800EB on an Asus P3v4x
640MB PC133 RAM
Hercules 3D Prophet II GTS 64MB (GeForce2 GTS)
Soundblaster Live
2 Maxtor 40GB HDs (7200) and 1 Maxtor 20GB HD (5400)
HP 10x4x32 CD-RW (9200 series)
Viewsonic 17" PerfectFlat A75f
Altec Lansing ACS48
Logitech Optical Mouse
Microsoft Internet Keyboard Pro
all inside a generic fullsize tower on wheels, with a 400W PS

(AND)

Windows 2000 Advanced Server, fully updated
JK2Radiant - the original, BABY!

volrathxp
07-31-2002, 08:29 PM
AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1.2 GHz
Asus A7V333
512 MB DDR 333
Visiontek Xtasy GeForce 4 Ti-4200
Hercules Game Theater XP
1 WD 80Gb ATA-133
1 WD 60Gb ATA-100
16x Toshiba DVD-ROM
LG 24x10x40x CD-RW
Some kickass Altec speaks
Viewsonic A90f 19" PerfectFlat CRT

AND

Windows 2000 Professional, Service Pack 3 Official Release
GTK Radiant 1.2.9.0

ah and in terms of internet connections:

Road Runner. Last test was: 1054 kbps down / 388 kbps up

Emon
07-31-2002, 08:36 PM
My cable gets me 3,000/128 Kbps, hehe!

My speakers are so kickass. My front channels are some home theater speakers that I've got an old amp hooked up to, they have more bass than the majority of PC speaker subwoofers, and they don't even have them! Just 10" woofers, no subwoofers.

volrathxp
07-31-2002, 08:40 PM
cooool. I lika my cable. Fast, although not as fast as d/ling off the T1 at work. :D

edit:

btw

Windows 2000 Advanced Server, fully updated

why in the flying #### do you need 2000 Advanced Server as your desktop? That's too much overkill thank you.

Emon
07-31-2002, 08:57 PM
Errr, I clearly said Win 2K Pro, not Adv Server.

volrathxp
07-31-2002, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by Emon
Errr, I clearly said Win 2K Pro, not Adv Server.

Sorry Emon I should have mentioned that was directed at RichDiesal not you. Sorry.

Emon
07-31-2002, 09:06 PM
Oh, okay... Yeah that's overkill. Server, Advanced Server, and Datacenter Server are no more secure or no faster than Professional, they just add a whole bunch of database and web server stuff, and a lot of useless data to your HDD that sucks up space.

volrathxp
07-31-2002, 09:11 PM
Originally posted by Emon
Oh, okay... Yeah that's overkill. Server, Advanced Server, and Datacenter Server are no more secure or no faster than Professional, they just add a whole bunch of database and web server stuff, and a lot of useless data to your HDD that sucks up space.

and even if you wanted to use it for a website, Professional has IIS and while you can only have one website in it, it still has all the features of the Server IIS.

SunBurN
07-31-2002, 11:13 PM
You guys all seem to have pretty kick ass systems. My friend ended up taking back the 19" LCD to the store, and got a ViewSonic P220f 22" monitor. God it's sweet...he was playing americas army on it and it was phenomenal!! Have you guys tried that yet?? It's completely free made with Unreal2 engine. Going to dl it tonight and give it a try.

Emon
07-31-2002, 11:27 PM
How can he take it back?? You payed $100 for it, it's your property!

SunBurN
07-31-2002, 11:49 PM
no, he took back his 19" flat panel(to the store) and got the 22" perfect flat. I still have the 19" PF790! :)

Manquesa
07-31-2002, 11:52 PM
Well ok, once again

Dude, I got me a Dell$$$$$$$(payments end in 2005:mad: )

1.2 Pentium 4
128 MB Ram
Windows Me
DVD
CD-RW
Cable Modem
20"Monitor set at 1280X1024
Altec Lansing 5 speakers including Subwoofer
Soundblaster Live
Logitec wingman gamepad and throttle stick(2 different controllers)

SunBurN
07-31-2002, 11:54 PM
What video card came with it manquesa?

Manquesa
08-01-2002, 12:01 AM
Oh yeah, sorry

64MB DDR NVIDIA GeForce2 Ultra

SunBurN
08-01-2002, 12:07 AM
Upgrade the RAM brutha, it's super cheap right now!! :) With Dell machines, will any generic ram work or do you have to buy proprietary Ram from Dell? Just curious....

idontlikegeorge
08-01-2002, 12:22 AM
server and advanced server has VPN; gonna put that on my LAN's server, and my friends LANs server, so we can tunnel into eachothers lan for games/etc.

server comp: win2k pro sp2; old gateway 450; 384mb ram; 16mb voodoo3 card (soon to be changed)

my comp (built FOR this game!): win2k pro sp2; athlon 1.4; gigabyte MB; 256mb pc2100; geforce3ti 64mb card; toshiba 40x dvd; plextor 40x cdrw

my other comp (semi-stock compaq) win98se; amd 533; 184mb ram; voodoo3 16mg pci card (soon to be replaced)

and a bunch others on the LAN; my friend just built one thats pretty much like mine, but better; got total 6 static computers on the LAN; served with an attbi cable modem; the upload cap sucks, but since we are like 2000 ft outside any dsl range not much we can do

as far as monitors and sound go tho, nah we aint got it; two 17" monitors, the rest usually stock 15"ers (id like to go bigger, but because of space, i wont go bigger than 17" unless its a lcd, which still suck and cost too much)

probably more info than required :p (i also want to state the fact that neither me or my friend ever took any type of class on networking; hell hes a dropout and i only got high school computer classes on the belt)

SunBurN
08-01-2002, 12:28 AM
hey, you really don't need school for networking! I learned most of what I needed to know long before I took all the classes to get my certifications. And if you love doing what your doing, then that's all that matters..and you'll be good at it!

idontlikegeorge
08-01-2002, 12:36 AM
yeah true true

i remember when i did take a class when i was going to college (briefly), i was so ####ing bored cuz i pretty much taught myself all that BS

volrathxp
08-01-2002, 09:14 AM
Cisco Networking Academy in High School for 2 years, MCSE classes in College.. and soon to be taking SQL Server classes (even though I've already taught myself most of it as well as mySQL and MS SQL 7.0/2000). Also a little Unix/Linux, BSD, Mac, etc. etc. etc.

idontlikegeorge: nice little machines you got there.

Manquesa
08-01-2002, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by SunBurN
Upgrade the RAM brutha, it's super cheap right now!! :) With Dell machines, will any generic ram work or do you have to buy proprietary Ram from Dell? Just curious....

I'm pretty sure I can get any brand of RAM so long as it's the right type.

Tigris
08-01-2002, 10:50 AM
Just to throw my lot in:

-800 Athlon Slot A
-Asus K7V
-512 MB RAM
-Asus 6800 Geforce DDR
-Windows 2000 Professional
-GTK 1.2.10

Now here is what's waiting for some additional parts right in front of me:

-Pentium 1,8A GHz, clocked at 2,4 GHz
-512 MB DDR Corsair PC3200 XMS
-2 Seagate Barracudas 80 GB

Hopefully this explains my bad mood in the past few days- it's just so depressing to see these things right in front of your face :mad:

volrathxp
08-01-2002, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by Manquesa


I'm pretty sure I can get any brand of RAM so long as it's the right type.

you can use any brand of Ram you want, so long as it is the right type. Oh and generic house brand RAM blows. Hook up with something like Kingston or Crucial and you got a good ram manufacturer. Sounds to me like you have a Rambus RDRAM box, so um... good luck with that, rambus is still expensive #### and it does have to be installed in pairs so if you wanted to put 512 mb in it, you'd have to buy two 256 mb sticks. :mad:

DDR is the way of the future. Rambus is dead, specially w/o Intel's "official" support anymore.

RichDiesal
08-01-2002, 12:27 PM
Actually, at the time I got this, I needed network load balancing and wanted to have Microsoft clustering services installed for multi-server apps... Does Pro support that? I didn't really check into it much, i just assumed it didn't.

Not that I really need those things now, but reformatting and reinstalling at this point really isn't worth the effort until I change out the mobo and proc.

and even if you wanted to use it for a website, Professional has IIS and while you can only have one website in it, it still has all the features of the Server IIS.

EDIT: Incidentally, I would get Samsung RAM if you're getting DDR.

Emon
08-01-2002, 04:14 PM
Samsung? For RAM? Errr, riiight...

Kingston and Crucial no doubt make the best RAM, Kingston is probably a bit better.

volrathxp
08-01-2002, 04:39 PM
Samsung isn't bad RAM, it's better manufactured than some other RAM manufacturers. But definitely: Kingston and Crucial make the best. Although Crucial needs to do more research when it comes to certain Dell models of laptops. Crucial lists a couple Dell Latitude series laptops as having two modules for RAM when they actually have 1. :p

edit: Although Crucial is officially getting into the video card market and will be making cards based on both Nvidia and ATI chipsets so I can't wait for some kickass Crucial vid cards to be comin out. :D :D

RichDiesal
08-02-2002, 01:38 AM
Samsung? For RAM? Errr, riiight...
Let me rephrase.

"I would get Samsung RAM if you want the best cheap DDR."

Some of us don't like to throw money away, unlike some people here. :tsk:

Emon
08-02-2002, 01:41 AM
Ahhh.

SunBurN
08-02-2002, 05:33 PM
So, from what I've seen so far, most ppl here have decent to fast machines. If you have a slower machine, don't be shy, put up the specs! From what I find out here, in the future when I make a map, I may make two versions, one for slower machines, and one a bit more detailed and larger for faster machines.

SunBurN

Wes Marrakesh
08-02-2002, 06:06 PM
here is what i know:
1.33 Ghz AMD (or athalon, lol)
GeForce 2 PRO (32 bit i think)
156 mb RAM dunno which type)
:lol: i really don't know much...
it's a falcon northwest

SunBurN
08-02-2002, 06:21 PM
What's a falcon nw?

volrathxp
08-02-2002, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by SunBurN
What's a falcon nw?

a pc company :p

Wes Marrakesh
08-02-2002, 08:37 PM
It's a pc maker that make 'em just for games :)
www.falcon-northwest.com

RichDiesal
08-03-2002, 11:36 AM
I never quite understood how you could make a PC "just for games." You could use your computer for office functions, right? All a "gaming PC" really means is that you have a decent video card, and hell, you can add that to any system. "Woo I added a GeForce4 to my Emachine, now it's a gaming PC!"

Just sayin. ;)

volrathxp
08-03-2002, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by RichDiesal
I never quite understood how you could make a PC "just for games." You could use your computer for office functions, right? All a "gaming PC" really means is that you have a decent video card, and hell, you can add that to any system. "Woo I added a GeForce4 to my Emachine, now it's a gaming PC!"

Just sayin. ;)

true dat. alienware trys to pull of the same deal, cept their systems are too ####in expensive. cases are nice tho. :p

Emon
08-03-2002, 02:32 PM
Gaming PCs are supposed to have the best of every kind of hardware in them. Just because they are designed for games, doesn't mean they won't kick ass at every thing else.

dimi30
08-03-2002, 04:21 PM
Well heres my system:

P4 2.2ghz
512 rambus ram
Geforce3 Ti500 64mb
ISDN 64kbps(128kbps too epensive :( )
Well thats what matters to the fps(except the connection of course :D )

RichDiesal
08-03-2002, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by Emon
Gaming PCs are supposed to have the best of every kind of hardware in them. Just because they are designed for games, doesn't mean they won't kick ass at every thing else.

I wouldn't say that. What if I wanted to run a workstation-level CAD program? Most "gaming PCs" with "the best of every kind of hardware in them" wouldn't handle that as well as I'd want it to.

Many "gaming PCs" don't have the best of every kind of hardware in them - in fact, many of them just plain suck. The only criterion to have a "gaming PC" is to apparently put a semi-decent video card in it. And just a fast video card does not a good computer make.

Wes Marrakesh
08-03-2002, 04:34 PM
i would define a gaming pc as:
large monitor.
lots of memory
great graphics card
ok sound card
fast processor
what else does it need that average ones don't have?

volrathxp
08-03-2002, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by Wes Marrakesh
i would define a gaming pc as:
large monitor.
lots of memory
great graphics card
ok sound card
fast processor
what else does it need that average ones don't have?

a decent operating system that can handle the hardware the way it was meant to. (i.e. Windows 2000/XP, and not that ####ty, memory flawed, crashing, piece of #### Win 98/ME).

Wes Marrakesh
08-03-2002, 05:53 PM
i was talking hardware not software, but that helps:rolleyes:

volrathxp
08-03-2002, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by Wes Marrakesh
i was talking hardware not software, but that helps:rolleyes:

if you don't include the software in your assessment as well then there is no guarantee that it is a good gaming machine really. so hardware has all these advantages and whatnot, but if the software can't use those advantages then your system will not be "great".

Wes Marrakesh
08-03-2002, 06:00 PM
good point.
2000 works for me...

SunBurN
08-03-2002, 06:21 PM
"I wouldn't say that. What if I wanted to run a workstation-level CAD program? Most "gaming PCs" with "the best of every kind of hardware in them" wouldn't handle that as well as I'd want it to. "

Actually Rich, I'm the IT Manager for an Architectural firm and the specs for my machine are the same specs for the ones I buy for the office and although they're great gaming machines, they work extremely well for ACad 2002 ADT 3.3, formz, 3DstudioVis, and Accurender. I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just giving you an example of how these "gaming machines" perform very well in the workplace, as well as for gaming.

SunBurN

SunBurN
08-03-2002, 06:24 PM
So after looking over this thread, it looks like ppl with slower machines are either too embarrased or ashamed to post here, or simply do not frequent this forum and everyone that is on this forum has kick ass machines!! I guess I don't have to make any maps with slow machines in mind then :)

Wes Marrakesh
08-03-2002, 07:01 PM
Which firm?

idontlikegeorge
08-03-2002, 09:41 PM
I may make two versions, one for slower machines, and one a bit more detailed and larger for faster machines

yeah, that could work... "sp episode" for slow-mid machines, then "sp episode directors cut" for high-end systems :p

So after looking over this thread, it looks like ppl with slower machines are either too embarrased or ashamed to post here, or simply do not frequent this forum and everyone that is on this forum has kick ass machines!! I guess I don't have to make any maps with slow machines in mind then

with my new card being able to play JO on my compaq, i got a low-end system to test my maps on :)

anyway, i think if a map is made efficiently, even low-end users shouldnt have too much trouble

Emon
08-03-2002, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by RichDiesal


I wouldn't say that. What if I wanted to run a workstation-level CAD program? Most "gaming PCs" with "the best of every kind of hardware in them" wouldn't handle that as well as I'd want it to.

Many "gaming PCs" don't have the best of every kind of hardware in them - in fact, many of them just plain suck. The only criterion to have a "gaming PC" is to apparently put a semi-decent video card in it. And just a fast video card does not a good computer make.

What I meant was a good gaming machine should have the best of every kind of hardware for gaming. If you wanted a CAD machine you could take an Alienware, remove the sound stuff, replace the GF4 with a Quadro 4, and there you have it, a CAD machine. All the other stuff can still be used for CAD.

Tigris
08-03-2002, 09:52 PM
Well, for me there's no "Gaming only-PC" anyway: go buy a PS2/Xbox/whateva when you want gaming only. And then start wondering why Radiant doesn't work :p

No, for me people who buy top notch hardware are either way to rich, or (what is the case with me) need the PC to compile, calculate, ..., faster. I mean I'm sorry, but I'm just not in the mood to map 4 hours (or even less) a day just because my PC needs the rest for compiling.

But whatever- nice side-effect is that games feel fluent again. Now I only have to get it working :D

idontlikegeorge
08-03-2002, 10:17 PM
Well, for me there's no "Gaming only-PC" anyway: go buy a PS2/Xbox/whateva when you want gaming only. And then start wondering why Radiant doesn't work

yeah totally; hehe i dont really like when console and pc games crossover; i mean i love GTA3, and MoH is cool, but they still lack things;

yeah anyway the great thing about PCs is they arent really specialized; they can easily be adapted to other things if needed; but usually, you can do everything at nominal performance, with a stock machine

Ah Boon
08-04-2002, 01:55 AM
i got a dell system too and im happy with it :D but i got a sux0r3d system tho :(

-black n grey dell casing :D
-p4 1.8ghz processor
-256mb ddr ram (if im not mistaken)
-64mb geforce2 mx 400 (this dang card is bogging my system down!:mad:)
-48x Lite-on LTN486 cd-rom
-hp cd-writer cd12 series. the speed is something like 32x read 24x write and 8x or 16x rewrite
-40gb hdd
-sb live! value
-win xp home ed
-gtk radiant 1.2.9 :/ (lazy to get 1.2.10 :D)

and my system cost a round US$1000

lassev
08-04-2002, 06:03 AM
Well, SunBurN, as one may have already read between the lines that this "showing off" thread seems to be populated only by hardcore computer users, maybe all of them hardcore editors of JO. I wouldn't dare make any real deductions of the large mass of people out there playing the levels. And I'm tempted to say that most editors are the more pleased, the more people appreciate their hard work with Radiant.

What am I whining here? Make the best you can. If I can't play it, it's my problem. You can be sure that those who can are all the more impressed.

Abit KT7A
AMD ATHLON 1GHz
512 Mb PC133
GAINWARD GF4 TI-4200
Maxtor 60Gb 7200 rpm
Logitech Dual Optical USB
Soundblaster LIVE! VE
Win XP Professional

Joben
08-04-2002, 04:31 PM
My system aproximitaly.

800mhz Duron.
128 megs or RAM
GeForce2 GTS 32meg DDR
Windows 98
Crappy Integrated Sound (ok so that isnt a brand but it should be)
Asus A7V133 Motherboard

I have a pretty good 16 inch viewable ViewSonic monitor.
o yeh and a cable modem.
Gona need an upgrade soon...starting to save for it.

Originally posted by RichDiesal

Many "gaming PCs" don't have the best of every kind of hardware in them - in fact, many of them just plain suck. The only criterion to have a "gaming PC" is to apparently put a semi-decent video card in it. And just a fast video card does not a good computer make.

I love those Comp USA or Best Buy flyer that advertise something as
a PC 'Great for Gaming" and its just off the shelf stuff with only a GeForce 2 at best. :rofl:

Sleek
08-05-2002, 12:24 AM
Main rig:

AthlonXP 1800+ (not OC'ed yet, still looking for a waterblock)
PNY GeForce4 4400 at 300/650
Allied 400w PSU
8KHA+ KT266A chipset
512mb of Crucial PC2100 DDR
Altec Lansing speakers
Microsoft Intellimouse Optical
SB Live! Value
Earthlink DSL
Win2k Pro with SP2
19" CTX monitor (dont know the model number)
Arkua 7528 HSF (getting water cooling soon :p )
2 Enermax 80mm speed adjustable fans
60gb 5400 RPM :( Maxtor

Second rig:

Athlon T-Bird 1.2ghz
Abit Geforce 3 Ti200 Siluro (didnt OC it yet, no real need to since I use it mainly for browsing the net while playing games) Crystal Orb'd with AS2
ECS K7S5A
Kingmax 400w PSU
256mb SDRAM :(
some crappy speakers (no bass :( )
some crappy mouse (ball)
onboard sound
5400 :( RPM 20gb Maxtor HDD
Volcano 5 (totally sucks)

idontlikegeorge
08-05-2002, 02:22 AM
lol overclocking; my friends do that... they do that to their cars, everything they own.... they cant stand something stock; they always gotta tweek it! :p

UniKorn
08-05-2002, 04:26 AM
Since this is the pimpage thread :

Athlon 1600+ XP
1024MB RAM
200 GiG HD (3 HD's)
GeForce 4
Chiefteck Dragon Full Tower Case
5 Ultra-Low Noise Fans (Papst)
Soundblaster Audigy
Creative DTI3500 Dolby Digital 5.1 / EAX
19" monitor
17" monitor
(dual head on gf4)

Perfect for mapping : 2DView on 19", textures and 3D View
on 17"

K.O
08-05-2002, 06:56 AM
1GHz AMD Athlon
256 MB RAM PC133 (Hopefully getting another 256 stick)
41 GB HDD
GeForce 4 MX 420
Windows XP
Verizon aDSL

gtk radiant and gmax for whatever this is listed for. :o

volrathxp
08-05-2002, 07:32 AM
Originally posted by UniKorn
Since this is the pimpage thread :

Athlon 1600+ XP
1024MB RAM
200 GiG HD (3 HD's)
GeForce 4
Chiefteck Dragon Full Tower Case
5 Ultra-Low Noise Fans (Papst)
Soundblaster Audigy
Creative DTI3500 Dolby Digital 5.1 / EAX
19" monitor
17" monitor
(dual head on gf4)

Perfect for mapping : 2DView on 19", textures and 3D View
on 17"

very nice Unikorn! :p

SunBurN
08-05-2002, 12:26 PM
______________________________

Well, SunBurN, as one may have already read between the lines that this "showing off" thread seems to be populated only by hardcore computer users, maybe all of them hardcore editors of JO. I wouldn't dare make any real deductions of the large mass of people out there playing the levels. And I'm tempted to say that most editors are the more pleased, the more people appreciate their hard work with Radiant.

What am I whining here? Make the best you can. If I can't play it, it's my problem. You can be sure that those who can are all the more impressed.

____________________________________

Well what I was thinking was that I may release a "smaller" version of my map for slower machines (duel/ffa saber only) and then a full version (duel/ffa/teamffa/ctf) for higher end systems and bandwidth. But you're right, I'm sure most ppl here who have the rockin systems here don't comprise the majority of players out there in terms of system specs. Anyway, thanks everyone for your input.

UniKorn
08-05-2002, 12:34 PM
Thanks,

but I do agree with SunBurn, I have a highend system for my mapping stuff and because I want high frames. I mean, I have a dual monitor of 19" and 17", that isn't your regular configuration.

Manquesa
08-05-2002, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by UniKorn
I mean, I have a dual monitor of 19" and 17", that isn't your regular configuration.

How does that work btw? 2 monitors on 1 computer.

Sleek
08-05-2002, 04:00 PM
Some video cards come with dualhead (meaning 2 monitor ports in the back) so you can plug two monitors into 1 computer. Or you can have 2 video cards in your computer so each monitor gets its own video card. Mind you, you only have 1 AGP slot so if you do the dual video cards method you'll eaither have to do one of the following: 1 AGP and 1 PCI or 2 PCI, whichever goes..

SunBurN
08-05-2002, 05:18 PM
well when I tried out Duel head with 2 monitors and one agp video card, it basically doubled the size of my desktop so an opened window could be dragged across to the other monitor...but it got annoying after awhile because the error messages would pop up directly in the middle of the desktop (spit in half between the two monitors) so I went back to just one monitor.

Manquesa
08-05-2002, 11:55 PM
what I mean is, with 2 monitors on one computer would it just split the screen to fit on both monitors, or would you be able to like, play a game on one monitor and have a web browser or another application running on the other monitor. If it just splits the screen, I would hate that, it'd be very annoying.

Emon
08-06-2002, 12:05 AM
No, it doesn't split it. It adds on, so you could have a game on one monitor and a web browser on the other.

Manquesa
08-06-2002, 12:39 AM
sorry if I sound like an idiot but, here's another question.

I happen to have an extra monitor and graphics card. Would all I have to do is plugin the extra card and monitor, or does it require any special software for this. Also how would you switch between the 2 monitors. I mean if i'm using the keyboard and mouse to play a game on one monitor and I want to pause for a minute to check something out online on the other monitor, how would the keyboard and mouse know to be applied to the other monitor instead of the game now.

Damn I feel like a big ol NOOB right now!!

SunBurN
08-08-2002, 12:44 PM
I'm not sure because the only way I got to monitors to work was the split screen method. I never got the other way to work so I'd like to know too. Anyone?

Emon
08-08-2002, 01:49 PM
You can definatly have more than one monitor without splitting. You either need two video cards that work well (crappy cards don't always work too good) or one card that supports two monitors.

SunBurN
08-08-2002, 02:14 PM
Ok, let's say you have it working by either 2 good cards or one the supports two monitors. Now, how does it work? Is it a function of Win2k or XP? Or does it have to do with the video card/display properties and settings?

idontlikegeorge
08-08-2002, 03:52 PM
well, if you have a card that supports two monitors, itd be in the card's advanced software/tools/whatever

id like to do that but i cant pull money outta my ass!

RichDiesal
08-09-2002, 01:29 AM
You can just install a second cheapy PCI video card (I had a 64MB GeForce2 on AGP and a 0.5MB S3 Virge in a PCI slot) and use that for a second monitor...

I would play games on my primary monitor (with the good video card) and have AIM/MSN/ICQ sitting up on the right screen... that way I could see if someone important enough to stop my game messaged me for whatever reason.

I also used to keep Photoshop open on it while using Dreamweaver on my primary monitor... there are many uses.

And it is a regular feature of all Windows after... ME, I believe. 2K and XP definitely support it, though. It just adds a new option in the Desktop Properties window.

MuRaSaMuNe
08-09-2002, 03:30 AM
Looks like I got the worse computer here

-P3 500mhz
-320mb RAM
-Voodoo 3 3000

Hooo yea!! I run on 800x600 on 16-bit with everything on high and 29-42 range fps.... not bad for this piece o' crap :cool:

Andy867
08-09-2002, 11:08 AM
Athlon 900 Overclocked to 972 on AOpen K73
640 MB PC133 RAM (upgrading to 1gb DDR ram in 3 months
21" Trinitron Monitor (dad just bought a 19 viewsonic)
3.8 Mb download, 1.7mb upload cable internet connection
SB LIVE X-Gamer, JVC RX5000v digital receiver
eAudio 5.1 surround sound speakers
24x10x40 CDRW
ATI Radeon 7200 *upgrading to newer video card soon as I have the dinero to buy one, which will be like in 3 months*
Windows XP Professional Edition
recently upgraded to 2 Western Digital 60 GB Hds, now to just get everything transferred
4 Coolmaster Fans (no comments please)

2nd rig is a WIP:

Althon XP 2200
512 MB 3500 DDR RAM (DONE)
SAMSUNG, SYNCMASTER LCD/TV 24" (DONE)
3.8mb Downstream, 1.7mb upstream internet connection(DONE)
Maxtor 160GB 5400 RPM(DONE)
Maxtor Firewire 60GB
Matrox Parhelia 128 MB DDR(DONE)
Sound blaster Live Platinum 5.1(DONE)
SS Surround Sound 5.1 system(DONE)
RX5000v receiver(DONE)
Logitech basic optical eye mouse(DONE)
Artec 48X12X48 CD-RW
Swiftech Complete Liquid Cooling Kit.

Like I said a WIP, as better stuff comes out, I will be adding it for stuff I am still waiting to buy, etc.

Andy867
JK2Net File Master
www.jediknightii.net

SunBurN
08-12-2002, 01:40 AM
Thanks rich, that's just what I wanted to know.

:)

UniKorn
08-12-2002, 05:47 AM
Just letting you all know that it doesn't work for everything, for instance, mapping and letting my gf watch tv on my other screen (got tv card) doesn't work, since the tv always wants to work on the primary monitor, and gtkradiant shows its menustuff always on the primary monitor as well => problem.

But indeed, I can follow irc and play games ;) Don't know how it works with two graphic cards, never tried that.

teutonicknight
08-13-2002, 07:19 PM
I have a crap computer:

P3 600 mhz
256 Ram
32 MB NVIDA RIVA TNT2 card
30 GB space
Altec Lansing speakers
Logitech Mouse
Trinitron 19' Monitor
Soundblaster sound card
8x max DVD drive
CD - RWdrive
Then I also have a USB 2.0 port and a Firewire port, for my digital camcorder and camera.

idontlikegeorge
08-14-2002, 01:35 AM
Originally posted by MuRaSaMuNe
Looks like I got the worse computer here

-P3 500mhz
-320mb RAM
-Voodoo 3 3000

Hooo yea!! I run on 800x600 on 16-bit with everything on high and 29-42 range fps.... not bad for this piece o' crap :cool:

how the **** you get that? i could barely get JK2 to work on my voodoo3 3000 pci card (it would work, but if i died, during reload it would freeze my system)

even now with a tnt2 32mb pic card, i cant get the fps to get that high; although the drivers probably arent optimized (geforce3ti drivers came with my tnt2 card :rolleyes: )
also, does pci video cards just suck compared to agp? (my comcrap doesnt have an agp slot :mad: when i get another computer, im gonna smash it with a 12lb sledge)

lol; as far as monitor/sound goes, i suck; stock compaq monitor (3rd one - gotta luv warranties :p, and a kds 17" i got on sale;
and ****, my speakers, hehehe - my newer rig i plug my sound card into a stereo thats as old as my SNES; and my comcrap uses old Packard Bell (remember them?) speakers

jaybiggspr
08-14-2002, 07:40 AM
I cant friggin' wait for this hardpeice of beasty goodness to get to my door.

Conspiracy Blue- Area 51 Machine
Intel P4 2.53 GhZ
1024 MB RDRAM PC 800
Intel Mobo
80 GB HDD 8 MB Buffer (or something)
GeForce 4 Ti 4600 128 MB (Overclocked by Alienware :) )
probably put my Ti 4400 128 on board, too
Cooling system w/2 extra case fans
Plextor 40 X CD\RW


...and then my old soundcard, etc... read what i have now in my signature.

volrathxp
08-14-2002, 07:54 AM
Originally posted by jaybiggspr
I cant friggin' wait for this hardpeice of beasty goodness to get to my door.

Conspiracy Blue- Area 51 Machine
Intel P4 2.53 GhZ
1024 MB RDRAM PC 800
Intel Mobo
80 GB HDD 8 MB Buffer (or something)
GeForce 4 Ti 4600 128 MB (Overclocked by Alienware :) )
probably put my Ti 4400 128 on board, too
Cooling system w/2 extra case fans
Plextor 40 X CD\RW


...and then my old soundcard, etc... read what i have now in my signature.

Alienware makes too expensive machines. I can build a better Athlon box than that for less than they sell their machines. (Which I have done)

Next project: I'm going to be building an IDE RAID 5 array box (yeah no SCSI, I'm a cheap bastard :p). Most likely = 6 drives because it's a 6 channel RAID card so like maybe 6 120GB drives w/ 8Mb cache set in RAID 5 so I only really lose 20% of that space. :D :p :D

SunBurN
08-14-2002, 04:11 PM
Damn jaybiggspr, how much did that set you back?? :)

Emon
08-14-2002, 05:55 PM
RAID 5 sucks.

volrathxp
08-14-2002, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by Emon
RAID 5 sucks.

Coming from a speed freak like you Emon I'd expect that... but unfortunately it's not speed I want. It's reliability. And to say 5 sucks without ever using it in the environment it is meant to be used in (for servers, etc.) then you just don't know how much of a big difference it makes to have that reliability there and that fault tolerance. What's gonna happen to your Raid 0 array if one disk goes out? They all die and you're ****ed. If one of my raid 5 drives dies and i have a hot spare set up then my array rebuilds itself by itself and keeps going. Then I can replace the drive at my will. And believe me, with a 6 channel IDE raid card, I will have a hot spare. May lose me some disk space setting one aside for a spare, but sometimes, I can't afford to just lose data like some people can. Remember some people want reliability and not just stupid blazing speed.

SunBurN
08-14-2002, 06:36 PM
I couldn't agree more with you volrathxp, I'm a network admin, and two of the servers I maintain have Raid 5 and believe me, it's saved my ass a few times! The only time I got screwed was when one of the drives went bad and when it did, it took along the one it was writing to, so I ended up having to replace them both and rebuild the server which really sucked. I now have two drives designated as hot spares and only 4 drives in actual use. But in the past when one went bad, the network still kept going (albiet a bit slower in access time) and worked fine til I was able to get the new one and let it rebuild again.

So, if you really know about Raid and it's uses, I'd say that raid 5 is the best and most fault tolerant, that is if you can afford it. For a workstation/gaming machine it's a bit overkill, but then again, if the data you have is important (your livelyhood) then Raid 5 is the way to go. That's just my 2 cents.

And of course Tape back up like DLT or Ultrium is a good back up plan, but again that's pricey and overkill for a gaming machine.

volrathxp
08-14-2002, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by SunBurN
I couldn't agree more with you volrathxp, I'm a network admin, and two of the servers I maintain have Raid 5 and believe me, it's saved my ass a few times! The only time I got screwed was when one of the drives went bad and when it did, it took along the one it was writing to, so I ended up having to replace them both and rebuild the server which really sucked. I now have two drives designated as hot spares and only 4 drives in actual use. But in the past when one went bad, the network still kept going (albiet a bit slower in access time) and worked fine til I was able to get the new one and let it rebuild again.

So, if you really know about Raid and it's uses, I'd say that raid 5 is the best and most fault tolerant, that is if you can afford it. For a workstation/gaming machine it's a bit overkill, but then again, if the data you have is important (your livelyhood) then Raid 5 is the way to go. That's just my 2 cents.

And of course Tape back up like DLT or Ultrium is a good back up plan, but again that's pricey and overkill for a gaming machine.

I agree. But I did specify that I'm building an array box. It's gonna be like a mini server for me in case my pc's hdds should somehow die.

For clarification, Sunburn, I'm a pc help desk technician, who among other things, has to help maintain the servers and do some administration, mainly because we're so understaffed (3 people managing our whole company's internal help desk/support/servers/etc). I've been interested in having an array box for some time now. And to me, my data is important. I keep many many many many things, and I do not want to risk the evils of a hard drive death on my own machine and that data not be backed up or saved somehow.

I dunno about tape backups... maybe.... we're getting in two new tape units at work soon to replace the old ones we have. Btw, I must be either out of it, but Ultrium? Can you clarify what that is for me? It sounds like something I've heard of before.

SunBurN
08-14-2002, 07:00 PM
Ultrium is the next generation of Tape backup from HP. The tapes are 100GB uncompressed to 200GB compressed which works out (if you have large files and file formats like .dwg, or .Tiff, to around 120 - 150GB possible). It's twice as fast as DLT especially if it's backing up from a 2000 server using backup software like Veritas Backup Exec.

I wasn't knocking your machine your planning on building, I was merely stating the benefits of having Raid 5 and for ppl like Emon who seem to be more in to speed for gaming, then Raid 5 might be a bit much. But fault tolerance and redundancy is never too much if your job depends on the data being safe, accessible and recoverable in a short amount of time.

Anyway, if you're in the market for new tape drives, I'd highly suggest Ultrim and backup exec for the backup/restore program.

Good luck!

volrathxp
08-14-2002, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by SunBurN
Ultrium is the next generation of Tape backup from HP. The tapes are 100GB uncompressed to 200GB compressed which works out (if you have large files and file formats like .dwg, or .Tiff, to around 120 - 150GB possible). It's twice as fast as DLT especially if it's backing up from a 2000 server using backup software like Veritas Backup Exec.

I wasn't knocking your machine your planning on building, I was merely stating the benefits of having Raid 5 and for ppl like Emon who seem to be more in to speed for gaming, then Raid 5 might be a bit much. But fault tolerance and redundancy is never too much if your job depends on the data being safe, accessible and recoverable in a short amount of time.

Anyway, if you're in the market for new tape drives, I'd highly suggest Ultrim and backup exec for the backup/restore program.

Good luck!

oh... well i wasn't trying to knock you... sorry if it came out that way....

and actually, i think that's what we bought. Spectrologic Tape units that use Ultrium. Not sure so don't quote me, but I heard the tapes are 200 gb compressed... and we are getting Veritas. :p

we was using arcserverIT before. it sucks!

:eek:

edit: btw sunburn you gots aims/msn or something? i'd really like to talk to you some more.

SunBurN
08-14-2002, 08:01 PM
I only have ICQ#51358248 or you can email me at myownweatheredprison@hotmail.com

"oh... well i wasn't trying to knock you... sorry if it came out that way.... "


Don't worry, no offense taken :)

Talk with you later...I'm outta here :)

SunBurN
08-19-2002, 03:33 PM
Just ^Bumping^ this so I can see what speed ppls comps are who are curently testing my map.

SunBurN

Wotok
08-26-2002, 09:06 PM
TBird 1200 @ 1392
Golden Orb w/Arctic Silver
ATI Radeon 8500DV
256Megs of Crucial PC133 CL2
1x80Gig Maxtor 5400RPM
1x80Gig Maxtor 7200RPM
1x20Gig Maxtor 5400RPM
POS DVD
12x8x32 Plextor CD-RW
Linksys 10/100 NIC
SB Live! (Gold plated, whichever one that is)

Oh, and a fully modified case :cool:
http://web.tampabay.rr.com/wotok/casemod

MilesTeg
08-27-2002, 05:37 AM
My (existing) Dream Machine
(Untill Doom3 comes out...):

Athlon XP 1800+
(Papst Pal 8045)
ASUS 266E
786 DDR RAM
80 GB Seagate
Asus Geforce4 Ti 4400 (I love it!)
21" CRT Compaq (Sony Triniton Technology)
SB Live 5.1
DVD Drive (Panasonic, I think)

I run JO windowed in 1024x768, AAx2 AFx4 ideal for editing and screenshots ;)

Karshaddii
09-12-2002, 08:04 PM
I am sorry, but due to a violation in speed laws--I will now have to confiscate all machines running above mine. Thank you and have a nice day.

Emon
09-12-2002, 09:58 PM
Miles, that machine is MORE than enough for Doom III.

Andy867
09-13-2002, 02:48 PM
Yo Miles, you could always drop the 768 DDR RAM for 1024 MB XtremeDDR RAM. (http://www.xtremeddr.com) from the sounds of that, I might pick some up.


(WIP Rig #1)

ASUS a7v266-c Motherboard(waiting to arrive)
AMD AthlonXP 1600(waiting to arrive)
512 MB DDR RAM
24X12x40 CDR/W
Sound Blaster Live! X-Gamer
SSI 5.1 Surround Sound System
12x DVD-ROM
NVIDIA GeForce 4 Ti4200 128 MB DDR
60 GB 7200RPM Seagate
40 GB 7200RPM Seagate




Additional considerations:
PlantinumXP PC Case w/ Bue-tinted Window
400W Power Supply
2x80mm Case Fans
2x 80mm Fan Grill Atomic Energy
12xCold Cathode Green Lighting Effects
AGP AirLift Graphics Card Cooler
Senfu Air Cooler
XtremeDDR PC 3200 512MB
Anodized XP CPU Shim

More to come

Karshaddii
09-13-2002, 04:57 PM
Hmmm interesting...but I still would go with Corsair mem myself.

buckman
09-13-2002, 05:38 PM
Well, my computer isnt too great but it does just fine for now:

733mhz
640mb SDRAM
GeForce 4 Titanium 4200 64mb
20gb Western digital
80gb Seagate
8x cd-burner
DVD/CD Reader
4-speaker-surround
No extra cooling

When i play the singleplayer game with all detais and graphix to the max, and with 1280*1024 resolution, i get like 70 average fps
and like 40 average in multiplay...

LOTM_NadunHagar
09-14-2002, 01:23 AM
1.6 athlon
Asus A7V333 motherboard
60gb hard drive
54x genaric CD-ROM
Memorex 40x CD-R
Nvida Gforce 4 128mb 4400
256mb ram
1.5mb cable
microsoft Optical Explorer mouse
microsoft Office keyboard
Creative Audigy sound card w/5.1
19" Envision CRT monitor

thats all i can think of know, if anybody know how to Overclcok my video card i would love to here from u

ASk
09-14-2002, 02:39 AM
This thread has seriously gone off-topic.
Since it somehow resembles editing, it won't be in the Swamp.