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sexcellent
08-09-2002, 06:02 AM
I think dooku is one of my favorite characters from the star wars saga. he is so cool, and i like the way he doesnt want to kill the jedi, he just wants to do his job. remember he was like "my jedi powers are far beyond yours, now... back down." i bet if obi backed down, then dooku wouldnt have killed him. he also shows this side to him in the arena where he promises the jedi that if they give up he will spare their lives. he's not such a bad guy! plus that guy has the most unique saber hilt i've ever seen. i would have loved to see him as a jedi before he turned to the dark side.

whats with his plan to "destroy the sith"? maybe that was just lies, but i do sense good in him. maybe dooku turns back into a jedi in ep2...

MaTT[-FcG-]
08-09-2002, 08:24 AM
Personally I reckon Dooku does have a hidden agenda... An agenda hidden even from the emperor. Why would he tell Obi wan that The republic is bieng run by a sith and then ask Obi to join him? Why does palpatine replace Dooku with anakin as his apprentice? Does dooku betray his trust? But then again thats just me making assumptions. :D

Also the saber hilt was designed on Christopher lee's request for something that resembles his favoured fencing hilt: - The french Hilt. This hilt also is slightly curved but has a large pommel on the end. This type of hilt suits a fencing style that uses lots of stabbing thrusts rather than slashes or parrys as the thrust will be more direct and more pressure can be applied once the tip of the blade makes contact. Lee is a very competant Fencer with 50 years experience in the art.

ET Warrior
08-09-2002, 12:40 PM
I'm pretty sure he does want to kill the Jedi......first he has anakin obiwan and amaidala to be executed, then when that fails they are surrounded by droidekas....only the arrival of the jedi task force saves them. Then he lets around 180 jedi die before he offers them the chance to be spared. But if he spared them...he would have held them hostage....and when they refused to be hostages he was just gonna kill them.
He told obiwan to back down, but before obiwan had a chance to back down dooku fired his force lightning at him, so had obiwan backed down, he would have ended up deep-fried. Then after Dooku had injured obiwan and taken him out of the fight we saw he was prepared to deliver the killing blow, and anakin had to save him. Dooku is a bad bad dude.

Norin Radd
08-09-2002, 01:11 PM
Originally posted by MaTT[-FcG-]
P Why does palpatine replace Dooku with anakin as his apprentice? .


Because Dooku is killed. . .most likely by Anakin.:D

Legacy_Of_Sith
08-09-2002, 03:32 PM
Norin Radd speaks the truth. Methinks there's gonna be many sabre fights in EP III. :cool:

MotionMan
08-09-2002, 08:30 PM
Yup alot of fights:)

sexcellent
08-09-2002, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by ET Warrior
He told obiwan to back down, but before obiwan had a chance to back down dooku fired his force lightning at him, so had obiwan backed down, he would have ended up deep-fried.

i think dooku gave obi a chance but obi was still in an agressive stance which led to dooku to shoot his stuff at obi.

ET Warrior
08-09-2002, 09:12 PM
he gave obiwan less than a second to back down. Sorry, but i don't believe that Dooku had an inhibitions to killing jedi. I forgot to mention he also tried to crush Yoda with things from the wall and rocks from the ceiling, tried to fry yoda with lightning, AND nearly crushed anakin and obiwan underneath that crane.......

And obiwan wasn't in an aggressive stance...when dooku shot his lightning obiwan's saber was held in one hand and he had it pointed down at the ground. Obiwan had to raise it to block the lightning.

MotionMan
08-09-2002, 09:31 PM
Also when Obi wan was injured on the floor, Dooku was going for the kill. :)

ET Warrior
08-10-2002, 02:19 AM
Dooku is just overall a bad, bad man!

Sivy
08-10-2002, 09:08 PM
Powerful in the darkside dooku has become.

He told Obi-Wan about a sith lord controlling the republic to stir things up, make the jedi doubt the integrity of the republic, making it easier for palpatine to take control.

MotionMan
08-10-2002, 09:11 PM
Originally posted by SivyB
Powerful in the darkside dooku has become.

He told Obi-Wan about a sith lord controlling the republic to stir things up, make the jedi doubt the integrity of the republic, making it easier for palpatine to take control.

Thats an interesting way to veiw it. Very good theory. It could have been Dookus intesnsions.

Taos
08-12-2002, 12:51 AM
Originally posted by MATT [FcG]

Personally I reckon Dooku does have a hidden agenda... An agenda hidden even from the emperor. Why would he tell Obi wan that The republic is bieng run by a sith and then ask Obi to join him? Why does palpatine replace Dooku with anakin as his apprentice? Does dooku betray his trust? But then again thats just me making assumptions.




Hmmmmm........so much to think about! The possibilities are endless, I absolutely love it! :D

ET Warrior
08-12-2002, 12:55 AM
Originally posted by SivyB
Powerful in the darkside dooku has become.

He told Obi-Wan about a sith lord controlling the republic to stir things up, make the jedi doubt the integrity of the republic, making it easier for palpatine to take control.

That's exactly what i think. I've been wondering how to word that for a long time now, and you have done it wonderfully.

Ratmjedi
08-12-2002, 10:10 PM
I just think that Dooku is being played by the Darth Sidiouse himself. And why do you guys keep saying Emperor when he isn't yet? Think about it the Sidiouse foresaw many thing's like that Vader and Luke would rule! I assume that the Dark Side of the Force is easier to see then the Light side! Yoda was the Greatest Jedi Master and couldn't see much about Anakin's future. How would Palpatine be able to see the future and not Yoda. Dooku might be plotting against Sidiouse or it might off been thought up by Sidiouse himself. And when Dooku returned to Coruscant he said that the Clone War had begin. Many people thought that he had failed but that was what he was suppose to do in the first place. Dooku thinks that he knows whats going along when he doesent. Darth Maul didn't know everything he just did what his Master told him to do. There has to be a diffrence between the Master and the Apprentice.


:duel: :lsduel:

Master Bodle
08-13-2002, 11:30 AM
I reckon Dooku is cool 2, gotta be one of my fav characters from Satr Wars. I don't get why he joined the Darkside, cus he left the Jedi because of all the corruption he saw within the Republic. I reckon he may betray Palpatine in Ep III or alternatively i reckon he will fight Mace Windu and will kill him and then he will fight Yoda and be defeated.

I also wanna see palpatine fight in a lightsaber dual, how cool would that be. I wanna see if he can beat Yoda!!(I doubt it though)

MotionMan
08-13-2002, 11:53 AM
Dooku cannot beat Windu!:mad:

I think they one to kill Dooku will be Anakin. Then he will rightfully take his place at Sidious's side.

Master Bodle
08-13-2002, 11:57 AM
So who is gonna kill Windu cus u know its gonna happen in the next Film. He's gotta go out with a bang!!

MotionMan
08-13-2002, 12:25 PM
As I said before,
I would like for Sidous to kill Mace. Either that or a bunch of clone troopers. It could be even Anakin and yea maybe Dooku.
I hope to god that Mace doesnt Die at the hands of a teenage Boba. Ill get up and walk out the theatre:mad:
Well....maybe not but ill be very disapointed.

Sivy
08-13-2002, 12:49 PM
I still think that Anakin will kill Dooku and take his place as Sidious' apprentice. I also think that Mace will be killed by Anakin, that way people will understand why Obi-Wan has to drop him into a volcano.

Taos
08-13-2002, 01:01 PM
Well, I heard that Sam Jackson told GL that he doesn't want to go out like a little b%$@h, so I don't think we have to worry about teenage Boba killing him.

My gut feeling is that Windu will attack Sideous when he tries to take over and Mace will be killed. :( I agree that Anakin will kill Dooku.


Man will all of these people killing each other, it's goin' to be a wild movie :D

MotionMan
08-13-2002, 01:03 PM
The volcano/lava thing wont be included in ep.3.
That is EU. I think Lucas wont go with that.

Sivy
08-13-2002, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by MotionMan
The volcano/lava thing wont be included in ep.3.
That is EU. I think Lucas wont go with that.

Well that's actually written in the Star Wars: A New Hope book written by George Lucas.
But I agreed it will probably be changed to something else.

Ratmjedi
08-13-2002, 02:02 PM
It has to be something like a volcano that would scar him. The scars that he gets are to hard to have been given to him by a lightsaber. If he doesn't get them from a volcanic accident it could be from something like an explosion or something that would scar him and leave him for dead.

:duel: :lsduel:

DarthMuffin
08-14-2002, 09:53 AM
I hope to god that Mace doesnt Die at the hands of a teenage Boba. Ill get up and walk out the theatre

I heard somewhere that Lucas was planning a revenge for Boba...

Maybe Boba will just ally with the bad guys and help them kill Windu!

Back to Dooku, he will be killed by the damn Anakin... But he will still be my favourite character!!!:D

MotionMan
08-14-2002, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by SivyB


Well that's actually written in the Star Wars: A New Hope book written by George Lucas.
But I agreed it will probably be changed to something else.

The starwars book was "Ghost" written by someone else. It wasnt george Lucas.
I know all about the lava story. It is semi-canon as of now. Till we see it in ep.3 we cant say thats the way Anakin gets his injuries.

MotionMan
08-14-2002, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by Ratmjedi
It has to be something like a volcano that would scar him. The scars that he gets are to hard to have been given to him by a lightsaber. If he doesn't get them from a volcanic accident it could be from something like an explosion or something that would scar him and leave him for dead.

:duel: :lsduel:

Actually I think falling into lava is a bit extreme. He would have to be dead. People just dont walk out of molten lava.

"The scars he gets are to hard to have been given to him by a lightsaber"

What?!:confused: You mean you havent seen a light saber cut people in 2 like a hot knife through butter? Limbs getting cut off in milliseconds?!
A light saber is cabable of very horrible injuries my friend.

The volano/Lava thing "could" happen, but i really think that Lucas will go with something else.

MotionMan
08-14-2002, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by Darth54

I heard somewhere that Lucas was planning a revenge for Boba...

Maybe Boba will just ally with the bad guys and help them kill Windu!


Actually I have heard the contrary:)

Lucas said in an interview(when asked the Boba revenge question)
"Boba wont be old enough to fit into the costume"
Take that phrase as you please:)

Also Sam Jackson said in an interview:
"I will not be killed by a young Boba punk. I want to go out in a blaze of glory"
Take that as you please as well:)

MotionMan
08-14-2002, 11:35 AM
In one of my earlier posts i said that I hope Sidious kills Dooku.
It was a typo SORRY:). I meant to say I hope Sidious kills mace. Or maybe a bunch of clone troopers.

ET Warrior
08-14-2002, 01:05 PM
I think what they mean by a lightsaber not able to make those cuts is that it would be REALLY hard to JUST cut an inch or so into somebody's skull without going all the way through, especially if you're in a fast and furious duel....

Breton
08-14-2002, 01:10 PM
Dooku is not as bad as Siths like Maul and Sidious. He was once a jedi, a nice one, that is why he isn't that bad after all.

MotionMan
08-14-2002, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by ET Warrior
I think what they mean by a lightsaber not able to make those cuts is that it would be REALLY hard to JUST cut an inch or so into somebody's skull without going all the way through, especially if you're in a fast and furious duel....

Right I am thinking Anakin will suffer a bad fall or something other than the Lava thing.
BTW-Dooku cut Obi-Wan slightly with the saber:D

Legacy_Of_Sith
08-14-2002, 10:31 PM
It's hard to think which Sith will kill Mace. I hope it's either Sidious or Anakin. Preferably Sidious.

Ratmjedi
08-14-2002, 11:36 PM
I think what they mean by a lightsaber not able to make those cuts is that it would be REALLY hard to JUST cut an inch or so into somebody's skull without going all the way through, especially if you're in a fast and furious duel....

Thank you E.T. Warrior that's what I meant. Motionman I saw Darth Maul get sliced in half by Obi-Wan in THM so I know that Lightsabers can cut through anything including people :p
And also remember that he has lung trauma so his lung's had to of been damaged some how.
:duel: :lsduel:

Ratmjedi
08-14-2002, 11:41 PM
Oh and don't forget that he wears a suit. You just wouldn't wear all that for the looks. If it was just lung trauma that he suffred then why does he have the whole suit. He would just have a mask like Ko Ploon. So the suit protect's his body from whatever injuries he suffred.
:lsduel: :duel:

Legacy_Of_Sith
08-15-2002, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by Ratmjedi
Oh and don't forget that he wears a suit. You just wouldn't wear all that for the looks. If it was just lung trauma that he suffred then why does he have the whole suit. He would just have a mask like Ko Ploon. So the suit protect's his body from whatever injuries he suffred.
:lsduel: :duel:
Valid point Ratmjedi.

MotionMan
08-15-2002, 01:21 AM
It doesnt have to be a lightsaber injury as an alternative to the lave ordeal.
Anakin could suffer a fall. Heavy objects could fall on him. He could have something blow up right in front of him, ect.
As of now it seems the Lava theory is the most valid because that idea has been floating around since the OT days.
I just think Lucas might throw us a curve ball and change that.

Taos
08-15-2002, 01:30 AM
Well, l kinda hope so....it sounds a little strange that he just falls into the pit and becomes Vader. I think there will be a little more to it (I hope anyway).

ET Warrior
08-15-2002, 01:26 PM
Besides the point that lava would melt every part of his body it came in contact with. So he would have a 0% chance of living...

Taos
08-15-2002, 01:37 PM
:confused:

Do you mean a 0% chance of living.....???

AgentSmith
08-15-2002, 04:54 PM
I think actually Yoda foresaw everything, the Clone Wars, Anakin's turning and ultimately defeating Sidious/Palpatine.

Though it must have torn him apart that the Jedi would die as well as millions of others, he knew ultimately only that and Anakin turning into Vader would stop Sidious.

ET Warrior
08-15-2002, 05:44 PM
Yes, i meant 0% chance of living....

I don't think that Yoda foresaw that, just because i think that the darkside clouded his vision so much he couldn't really see anything. Had he foreseen all that would have happened, i think that he could have prevented it.......

MotionMan
08-15-2002, 08:23 PM
Mace and Yoda had a worried look in their faces when they found out that the dark side was clouding their vision.
Mace even says:"Our ability to use the force has diminished" "should we inform the senate?" then Yoda says: "If in a fact a sith lord is involved he knows of this already"<---*lines are not 100% acurate but close enough:)

Taos
08-15-2002, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by MotionMan
Mace and Yoda had a worried look in their faces when they found out that the dark side was clouding their vision.
Mace even says:"Our ability to use the force has diminished" "should we inform the senate?" then Yoda says: "If in a fact a sith lord is involved he knows of this already"<---*lines are not 100% acurate but close enough:)


I just think it is amazing that Darth Sideous has enough power to cloud the minds of even the most powerful jedi. I just can't wait to see what unfolds in ep III !!!

Also MotionMan, check my sig;)

Ratmjedi
08-15-2002, 10:03 PM
I don't think that Sidiouse was clouding their minds but that the Darkside is hard to see for a pair of Lightside Jedi. Like when Yoda told Luke that the future hard to see it is. I think that Lightside Jedi find it hard to see into the Darkside. Like Sidiouse sayed he foretold the future because he has the Darkside. Maybe they can sense it easier cause the have the Darkside. Do you guys think you understand what I'm trying to say?:(
:duel: :lsduel:

MotionMan
08-15-2002, 10:26 PM
Very cool avatar also Leemu Taos:)

Taos
08-15-2002, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by Ratmjedi
I don't think that Sidiouse was clouding their minds but that the Darkside is hard to see for a pair of Lightside Jedi. Like when Yoda told Luke that the future hard to see it is. I think that Lightside Jedi find it hard to see into the Darkside. Like Sidiouse sayed he foretold the future because he has the Darkside. Maybe they can sense it easier cause the have the Darkside. Do you guys think you understand what I'm trying to say?:(
:duel: :lsduel:

I think I understand.....you're just talking about the basic differences between the two sides. The darkside being quick and easy while the lightside is more patient. Is that even close???

:) Hey thanks MotionMan, it just moves a little too fast for me.....tonight I am going to hunt for something of Mace Windu like when he cut off Jango's head or something similar. Think there's any chance of finding that????

Ratmjedi
08-16-2002, 12:26 AM
Yah sort of. Like you have the part of how Darkside is easy and Light is more patient. It's like Dark see's everything. But the Light is harder to see. Those Sith have it so easy. No wonder there are always Sith! Those bums! Can't they wait or something!?:p I guess they were the children who got everything they wanted so they can't wait and be patient.
:duel: :lsduel:

Taos
08-16-2002, 04:01 AM
spoiled little brats anyways :D

ET Warrior
08-17-2002, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by MotionMan
Mace and Yoda had a worried look in their faces when they found out that the dark side was clouding their vision.
Mace even says:"Our ability to use the force has diminished" "should we inform the senate?" then Yoda says: "If in a fact a sith lord is involved he knows of this already"<---*lines are not 100% acurate but close enough:)

Just to help you out with your quote,
Mace: "I think it is time we informed the senate that our ability to use the force has diminished."

Yoda: "Only the dark lord of the Sith knows of our weakness...if informed, the senate is...multiply, our adversaries will." ;)

And i think that the darkside is actively clouding the jedi's vision and ability to use the force. They aren't as powerful when sith are around...which isn't very cool for them....stupid sith...

Ratmjedi
08-17-2002, 03:27 PM
Don't you guys think it should be the other way around. I mean it would ruin the movie but if it didn't wouldn't you guys want it the other way around? I personally think that the Jedi's should see everything since they are keepers of the peace. Those Sith have it so easy. Well no real easy but easier than Jedi.
:duel: :lsduel:

Taos
08-17-2002, 06:38 PM
I think it should be the other way around, you would think it would be easier for the jedi, oh well, just the way it goes I guess.