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Madjai
08-13-2002, 10:25 PM
this is my second model from the original jedi knight, the first being Maw.
and like Maw, Jerec is a modified kyle.

the mesh is done, at least in my opinion, but i want to hear from others first before i begin uvwmapping him.

so here he is:
www.geocities.com/madpostal2002/jerec2.txt
www.geocities.com/madpostal2002/jerec4.txt

and these are what i used for references, just incase no one knows what he looks like:
www.geocities.com/madpostal2002/jerec1.txt
www.geocities.com/madpostal2002/jerec3.txt
www.geocities.com/madpostal2002/jerec5.txt

(files are .txt so you wont have to copy/paste into address bar, just click)

any comments welcome.

DarkLord_44
08-13-2002, 10:27 PM
Very nice. I played Jk1 a lot. About 2 years. So I know what I am talking about.

SiThLoRd><1000
08-13-2002, 10:30 PM
It is looking great. I love using the Maw model, and I will totally enjoy using this model. I hope you start making all the JK:DF2 Characters. Awesome Job!
:D

SiThLoRd><1000
08-13-2002, 10:31 PM
I meant Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II. I forgot about the smiley so thats why it has a smiley in the middle of that.

inbredyokel
08-14-2002, 03:48 AM
Very nice. I wouldn't be afraid to make him a little more imposing(broader shoulders, stronger build). I'm guessing the writers and artists for jedi knight intended for Jerec to look like the concept art, but had to take what they got when it came to finding an actor. Otherwise it looks fine, and the face is pretty much dead on.

Darth_Kitty
08-14-2002, 04:07 AM
http://www.awardwinningdesign.net/uploads/Image2.jpg


That was my Jerec I was doing, I stop though to do the MGS2 models. I could not find all the textures. I only found the face, head and blindfold. Damn... I think there on CD.

EffJi
08-14-2002, 04:28 AM
Looking good, really good.

Damn you....now I have another model I have to wait for :D

Sub_Woofer
08-14-2002, 06:39 AM
Wow awesome work!

Can't wait to see this one, Jerec was a much better enemy than Desann ever was. Plus, it will be great to see him in the great detail both you and the JK2 engine can provide.

I'm one of the people working on the JK Remake, and I'm sure we'd all love it if we were able to use your models in our remake. You will be given full credit and all.

The Count
08-14-2002, 07:35 AM
My prayers have been answered that is all.

Darth Vigrid
08-14-2002, 12:35 PM
Nice job Madjai. Maybe you can make the shoulderpads a little more defined though.

t3rr0r
08-14-2002, 12:45 PM
it looks good. here's another version (imo, the best) of jerec. http://clan-cd.tripod.com/jk2/jerec.txt

12thMonkey
08-14-2002, 06:38 PM
It's perfectly fine to make jerec look a bit different to the actor. Cos the actor is a bit on the chubby side.

striderx2048
08-14-2002, 07:41 PM
Hey,
you going to the left hand floating saber bug on Maw for JediMod?

Madjai
08-14-2002, 07:50 PM
yea ive already fixed that bug, but im going to make a legged Maw and his saber before i release it.

"thA dekMan"
08-14-2002, 08:56 PM
the face is looking good, and yea i'd add a little more to the shoulders.

t3rr0r
08-14-2002, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by Madjai
yea ive already fixed that bug, but im going to make a legged Maw and his saber before i release it.
can you give his tubes a shader, too? :D

Madjai
08-14-2002, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by t3rr0r

can you give his tubes a shader, too? :D

thats not my department :P


and if i dont hear from inbredyokel im gonna need someone to skin him for me.

Emon
08-14-2002, 10:14 PM
Why do so many people have trouble with shaders? They are SO easy.

Madjai
08-14-2002, 10:21 PM
dont just say its easy, either say how or give links that explain how easy it is.

mariners2001
08-14-2002, 10:51 PM
Madjai,

Your model is looking very nice. I have made a Jerec skin and I have no idea if it will help or if you even care but it may help to look at my skin to see how I interpreted him to be. Here's the link:
http://www.massassi.net/levels/files/2361.shtml

Also, I'd be glad to skin this baby for you once you're done with the model.

Hope I've helped somewhat.

inbredyokel
08-14-2002, 11:24 PM
Emon, if you can do the shaders on the updated Maw skin, you are MORE than welcome to, and I'd gladly give you credit. Modifying an existing shader is one thing(one thing I can do), but making an entirely new one and getting it to work in a convincing way is completely another.
Madjai contacted me, so it looks like I'll be skinning Jerec (the many faces of Corran Horn will have to be put on hold). This should be much easier than Maw, whose lumpy head and enormous exposed muscles made for a texturing nightmare.
Keep the reference pics coming!

Emon
08-14-2002, 11:31 PM
You open up ShaderEd, add a texture, select a blend mode (usually GL_ONE/GL_ONE for solid textures), check any kind of features you want, etc.

Consult the Q3 shader manual. I had a bookmark, but I just reformatted, use google.

Madjai
08-15-2002, 03:15 PM
can someone provide me with the jerec sounds from JK1?

adillon
08-15-2002, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by Madjai
can someone provide me with the jerec sounds from JK1?

who was nice enough to supply them for you for maw? try and contact him again ...

jerec's looking great, madjai! keep up the great work! :D

Madjai
08-15-2002, 04:28 PM
ok i emailed him, thanks for the idea.

im currently working on weighting Jerec, which will be easier than Maw was because his body fits the skeleton much better, so this should take a couple of days, although i havent done legs before so maybe longer.
then the only thing left after that will be a little testing, the skin and sounds.
things move much faster after youve gotten over the first model.

inbredyokel
08-15-2002, 11:34 PM
Got the UV maps from Madjai last night, and I've got the basic facial features in. The mouth tatoos are only a stand-in for now, and the color looks washed out because I'm skinning in greyscale and have placed a layer of color over everything for reference.
http://www.geocities.com/inbredyokel2000/jerec1.txt

I haven't heard this brought up yet, so anyone have ideas for taunts? I don't know if Madjai has anything planned, but it seems there are 12 slots open at the moment.

t3rr0r
08-15-2002, 11:41 PM
looks good so far, although the tatoos at the mouth could stand to be longer.

Andy867
08-16-2002, 12:28 AM
Yea, from what i remember the tattoos near the mouth came nearly down to his chin, so if you add a little more length you will have it, but overall, the face looks awesome! keep up the good work... JK1 is makign a comeback!!! YES!!!(does the Happy :bdroid2: dance..)

You could use the thing from the beginning when he is talking to Rahn the Jedi and he says "I have no further use for you" or something like that...

inbredyokel
08-16-2002, 01:04 AM
Like I said, they're stand-ins:) The actual tatoos are much thinner and longer, and point almost straight down.
Btw, I need a little help on one part of the skin. Was Jerec blind or did he have no eyes at all? I remember reading or hearing somewhere that he just had empty sockets. In the Jedi Knight cutscenes you can clearly see the actor's eyes through the visor thing, but I'm guessing that's because of a low cutscene budget so it doesn't count(couldn't afford black contacts).

Andy867
08-16-2002, 01:06 AM
he had empty eye sockets, but used the force to "See", and he used the force to penetrate people's minds to read them

Elliot334
08-16-2002, 02:42 AM
Here are a bunch of Jerec reference pics, the model looks great, hope these help you with some final touches.

Jerec.jpg ľ 192 KB
http://www.reandev.com/Jerec.jpg

Deetox187
08-16-2002, 02:49 AM
Originally posted by Andy867

You could use the thing from the beginning when he is talking to Rahn the Jedi and he says "I have no further use for you" or something like that...

I'm not too sure that would be a good taunt cause he whispers it in Rahns ear, doesn't sound menacing enough. However right after he says that and raises his saber to cut Rahn down he lets out an evil laugh that i think would be perfect as a taunt.

Madjai if you want i can get some sounds for you, i have JK installed and i know which gobs the sounds are located in, let me know. :)

EDIT: well i was bored so i grabbed some Jerec sounds whether you wanted me to or not hehe, i got that evil laugh and a couple other good taunts too. I know theres more sounds from the cutscenes somewhere but i haven't found them yet, this is a good start though. :)

copy/paste the links into a new window.

http://www.geocities.com/deetox1900/i00je01z.mp3

http://www.geocities.com/deetox1900/i00je02z.mp3

http://www.geocities.com/deetox1900/i00je03z.mp3

http://www.geocities.com/deetox1900/i00je04z.mp3

http://www.geocities.com/deetox1900/i00je05z.mp3

adillon
08-16-2002, 10:15 AM
good as a taunt ...
www.geocities.com/deetox1900/i00je01z.mp3

another good taunt ...

www.geocities.com/deetox1900/i00je02z.mp3

awesome for a pain sound ...

www.geocities.com/deetox1900/i00je03z.mp3

kinda long, but great for a death sound ...

www.geocities.com/deetox1900/i00je04z.mp3

and probably the best taunt of them all ...

www.geocities.com/deetox1900/i00je05z.mp3

:D GOOD WORK FINDING THESE DEETOX!! :D

Deetox187
08-16-2002, 11:09 AM
Thanx yes they are all very useful sounds, i was thinking that long one could even be chopped up into some decent pain sounds, just an idea.. Anyways i have looked through all the wav files in the game and thats all there is of Jerec, so i assume the rest of his audio is embedded in the cutscenes. I tried using a sound recorder to grab the audio from one of them but the quality didn't come out too good, probably due to the crappy onboard soundcard i have. :(

King Jezuz Pie
08-16-2002, 03:43 PM
Ah cool, the dream-team strikes again. I have no doubts that your Jerec model will be a complete success :D

I love you Madjaj and Inbred :D

Starwalker
08-17-2002, 12:25 AM
Great Indeed! I love JK (perhaps more than JK2 due to the many found memories ;) )
Ive often thought the old JK and MOTS maps would be amazing for JK2, I think Ill go to the mapping section and do some enquiring :p

Nicely done

{xg}darthVADER
08-17-2002, 06:44 AM
looks good so far

Arco
08-17-2002, 08:10 AM
don't supose you could send me the mesh madjai? my mail is arco2002@hotmail.com. Could i get it in .glm or a 3ds and this is only if you have indeed uvmapped it.

Arco

Madjai
08-17-2002, 12:22 PM
why do you want the mesh?

reaper1576
08-17-2002, 03:11 PM
Madjai jerec's look good cant wait to see him finished:cool:

žith Lord
08-17-2002, 03:23 PM
Madjai I think arco wants to skin it and he is asking you to send him the model and the skinmaps...

I must say that this is looking awesome. hopefully you guys create all of the dark jedi from JK1. Boc would be sweet next

Madjai
08-17-2002, 08:47 PM
well i already have a skinner, and id like to keep it at one per model. but if you want to skin any of my future models please say so, ill be making Boc, Pic & Gorc, 8t88, Rahn and possibly Sariss if shes not being done by another person.

Deetox187
08-17-2002, 09:08 PM
Awesome, good to hear you're doing so many Jedi Knight characters, when you get around to those let me know and i'll provide sounds for all of them. :)

inbredyokel
08-18-2002, 02:59 AM
Here's update #2
http://www.geocities.com/inbredyokel2000/jerec2.txt
The face itself is pretty much complete(some nose texture alignment remains), and the head is nearing completion. I've got a good start on the clothing, but I'm not going to show anything yet until I'm at least satisfied with how it looks. Let's just say it will be a hell of a lot more detailed than Maw. Now all I need is some actual time to work on it...

AKPiggott
08-18-2002, 07:36 AM
Totally awesome. Keep it up.

Will Jerec have his cape? He always had it in the cutscenes, but not in-game.

12thMonkey
08-18-2002, 07:45 AM
It looks fantastic and great to hear that you are doing all the 7 dark jedi and Rahn.

Deetox187
08-18-2002, 07:53 AM
looks really good.

Arco
08-18-2002, 08:44 AM
humph!:mad: I wanted to skin it... i can't bemoggle why you turned me down! I was gonna do CTF since the default was already taken. I am so not used to one skinner per pack... madness!

Arco:deathii:

Madjai
08-18-2002, 11:28 AM
well if you want to do ctf skins talk to inbredyokel, i dont mind if you guys split the work up, just dont want two people working on the default skin.

trowa500
08-19-2002, 01:59 AM
pretty well done will his blind fold thing be 3d or just pained on?

inbredyokel
08-19-2002, 02:03 AM
If you want to do ctf skins I'm totally fine with it. I was just going to do a little recoloration on the default skin to make them, so the more the merrier.

icepool
08-19-2002, 02:04 AM
That looks really good. The only thing I can see different is the blind fold thing dosnt appear to have all the detail in the side parts like it does on the cover of jediknight. But it still looks perfect though.

Gram_Reaper
08-19-2002, 01:32 PM
Yeah, if you could id go with the cape. Gives him more of an authority figure look.

Rex_Raptor__
08-19-2002, 02:05 PM
that would look good

t3rr0r
08-19-2002, 02:24 PM
if the cape is modelled, make sure it's a separate skin (ie. jerec/cape).

inbredyokel
08-19-2002, 07:56 PM
I really don't understand why everyone is such a fan of capes and cloaks. Without custom animations most of them look awful in game, and due to polycount restraints half of them are practically flat planes with wrinkles painted on. Maybe it'd be cool for cutscenes, but with a few exceptions(such as dooku and vader) I can't stand them when playing.
And btw, the blindfold is modeled.

žith Lord
08-20-2002, 04:21 AM
Originally posted by inbredyokel
but with a few exceptions(such as dooku and vader) I can't stand them when playing.

I believe that Jerec fits into that catagory with Dooku and Vader. I say include the cape. Jerec just wouldn't seem the same without it

Madjai
08-20-2002, 01:34 PM
sorry folks, he is as he appears ingame, JK1.

Deetox187
08-20-2002, 01:46 PM
damn i disagree with that, i would really like to see a caped Jerec, he didn't look right in JK1 without one and he won't look right in JK2 without one, i am sad to see you make this mistake. :(

adillon
08-20-2002, 02:07 PM
jeez, it's been so long since i've played jkI i had no idea the guy even had a cape ... guess i always remembered him as he is in-game, without one.

i agree with inbred about the "look" and "feel" of capes when you're playing. all the clipping that occurs with the arms and legs is a little distracting. the only models i've seen that are successful with capes are the mandalorians/fetts model pack and the royal guard/kanos/jax model pack. and do you know why? because the capes are short and/or pulled back off their shoulders.

so maybe you'd consider giving jerec a shawl, you know, like old ladies wear? didn't think so. :laugh6:

keep up the great work, fellas! :D

inbredyokel
08-29-2002, 12:36 AM
Just thought I'd update everyone....
Started school the beginning of this week so I'm extremely busy and haven't had a chance to touch the skin in about a week. I've also got some medical problems I'm dealing with(nothing too serious), so I'm a bit overwhelmed at the moment. Hopefully when I get my life in order I can finish it up. Otherwise I'll just find someone to pass it on to.

The Count
08-29-2002, 02:47 PM
Hope you get better soon.

The Count
09-01-2002, 04:39 PM
Bump!

StitcheS
09-02-2002, 05:08 PM
I have kept quiet long enough!

This model is going to rock like you Maw model did Madjai. Also, with Inbred doing the skin, this model WILL be classic! Please more updates whenever you are ready Inbred!

Good luck in your school and health indevores!

SithMaster01
09-02-2002, 05:55 PM
I can't wait to fight Jerec again!

SiThLoRd><1000
09-02-2002, 09:16 PM
Me too Sith. Jerec was such a classic bad guy/ bastard. It will be good to have a model of him again.

SithMaster01
09-02-2002, 09:46 PM
This one should wear his cape while he's fighting. Or have one of him with it and one of him without it.

The Count
09-02-2002, 10:11 PM
Yeah Jerec was a real bastard, he was very cool way better than that Desann lizard thing!

inbredyokel
09-02-2002, 11:27 PM
Had some time to work on Jerec today, so here's an update:

http://www.geocities.com/inbredyokel2000/jerec3.txt

Still a lot left to do, but I guess a little progress is better than no progress.

mariners2001
09-02-2002, 11:50 PM
looks very nice....hope you add a shader or something to the shoulder pads though. it'd look best shiny.

inbredyokel
09-03-2002, 12:16 AM
I plan on using a shader on the shoulder pads and maybe the boots(depending on whether it looks cheesy or not).

StitcheS
09-03-2002, 12:35 AM
Sounds like a plan Inbred! You seem to have everything under control!

Great work!

žith Lord
09-03-2002, 03:27 AM
Inbred..I have only one word to describe it....AMAZING! you are an awesome skinner my friend, I could use your help on my Emperor skin. maybe you could tweak my facial texture to capture the essence of Palpatine better

keo718
09-03-2002, 04:04 PM
Wow. That is an excellent skin. What else have you worked on?

Master Toddy
09-03-2002, 06:24 PM
Very impressive model,

Madjai
09-03-2002, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by inbredyokel
Had some time to work on Jerec today, so here's an update:

http://www.geocities.com/inbredyokel2000/jerec3.txt

Still a lot left to do, but I guess a little progress is better than no progress.


love the job on the chest clothing, looks extremely professional.

inbredyokel
09-03-2002, 08:43 PM
In response to the inquiry about other projects, I did this skin about a month ago(and Maw)
http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=71556
If anyone is bored they can head on over and have a look see. I haven't released it yet because I've been too lazy to record/assemble a decent sound pack or do bot support.

Mest
09-03-2002, 11:52 PM
um i noticed something wrong with your corran horn model/skin/whatever. Corran doesnt have sideburns yet you gave them to him. http://www.geocities.com/inbredyokel2000/Corran2.txt
Minor detail but i just thought i would let you know.

inbredyokel
09-04-2002, 12:49 AM
I know he doesn't, but I wasn't really going for an exact match because of the limitations of the luke model. I just added the sideburns in because without them he looked a little girlish.

keo718
09-05-2002, 12:00 AM
Where can I download that skin?

inbredyokel
09-05-2002, 01:34 AM
Haven't gotten to the soundpack quite yet so it hasn't been released. If you pm your email to me I can send it to you when it's eventually ready though.

keo718
09-05-2002, 01:48 AM
I'd PM it, but the PM system wasn't working last I checked. Any other was I can get it to you?

inbredyokel
09-05-2002, 02:23 AM
I can just PM you when I release it. It will be a while though.

Chris Aturus
09-05-2002, 10:05 PM
do u think u could send me what u have now? im doing the gfx for the JK TC site and they r waiting on me, i really need that model....what u have so far will do, just so long as that i can view his head and sholders in the model veiwer. my email is csdt575@aol.com

reaper1576
09-08-2002, 08:38 PM
hey hows jerac coming along

Grets Sirob
09-09-2002, 03:25 PM
Jerec!

Hey, Madjai and Inbred.
Just to let you know, Maw is my favorite model so far(except for chewie and yoda, but I only use those for special occasions, and all three are on the same level).

Of course that's just because he's from jk1, and it's temporary till I can have Jerec.
He's got to be one of my favorite enemies, and my favorite jk1 skin(used it all the time when playing mp jk1).
Jerec looks fantastic, the model and skin look great, no, let me amend that, incredible.
You guys make a great team, keep it up!

(Psst, reaper, put this in your signiture:
(put []'s in place of {}'s)
{url=www16.brinkster.com/primesghost}TC:JK1 Forum{/url}
Should look like this:
TC:JK1 Forum (www16.brinkster.com/primesghost)

inbredyokel
09-11-2002, 08:15 PM
A little update...
I've had a lot of spare time the last couple of days(and I'll have even more tomorrow), so I'm about 80% done with the default skin. I'm guessing I'll be finished tomorrow, which brings up the question of team skins. I was originally planning on just recoloring a few parts, but that seems like a copout to me. Anyone have any ideas or care to take a shot at a team skin? It's up to Madjai of course as far as anyone else skinning him is concerned, but I certainly wouldn't mind splitting up the work. All I ask is that I get dibs on a red ctf skin :D

bleek
09-11-2002, 08:36 PM
I'd love to skin a red CTF version of him. If you wanna check out any of my work to see if you think I'm good enough....there is an Anakin Solo skin I did recently at jediknightii.net. Also there is a Jacen Solo skin at jediknight2files.com...but its under a diff name cuz the ppl there messed up for some reason. And it is also under the wrong category...its unders Star Wars models....dunno why those ppl at the website can't get it right:mad: . Anyway...also you can check out the Kit Fisto thread...Toonces let me skin the model also. There is a screeny of the head that I have completed.

Heck I'll just post some links here for you to take a look.
Anakin Solo skin (http://www.jediknightii.net/files/index.php?link=file&id=920)
Ain-Gel - Kit Fisto (http://www.geocities.com/bleekage/aingel.html?1031780772940)

Madjai
09-11-2002, 10:10 PM
i dont think you read right bleek, inbredyokel wants to do the red skin. and i dont mind if you let someone else work on it.

bleek
09-11-2002, 10:13 PM
Oh yeah I read that last part wrong. But anyhow...I'd luv to do a blue version then. I'm always looking for nice models to skin if a person doesn't feel like doing the skin themself. Wish I could figure out how to uvwmap cuz then I would do it myself....but skinning the Jerec model would be great!

Oh and if you want me to skin it then you can email me thru the forums.

StitcheS
09-14-2002, 04:37 PM
So how is the skin of Jerec coming along, Inbred?

I am quite pumped for this!

inbredyokel
09-14-2002, 06:16 PM
The skin itself is basically done. I still need to add textures to the cloth, put a reflective shader on the inner armor, wrist/hand gauntlets, boots, shoulderpads, and belt, and I need to test it out in-game and adjust brightness/saturation. I'll post a shot as soon as things are a bit more finalized. And bleek, if you want a shot at skinning blue you're more than welcome to. I've seen some of your work on the kit fisto model and it looks quite excellent. Unfortunately, I won't have time to send you everything until tomorrow night, mostly due to the fact that I'm working 20 hours today and tomorrow, and I have to write a research paper for monday. Damn, college is fun.

bleek
09-14-2002, 06:45 PM
Good thing I dun got college for another year or so:p . No prob..send it over if you want whenever you can, no rush. I just finished the Kit Fisto skin I was working on so I'm all free:D .

bleek
09-21-2002, 05:38 PM
Jerec - Blue face (http://www.geocities.com/bleekage/bleek.html?1032640436190)

keo718
09-21-2002, 05:44 PM
Inbredyokel, that skin is beautiful. This is another model I await.

Toonces
09-21-2002, 05:47 PM
I just have to echo keo's sentiments, the skin and the model are really dead on, great work guys :)

And bleek, have I mentioned recently that I love your work? ;) Looks great, you have great eye for detail

Darth Loki
09-21-2002, 11:56 PM
gorgeous model. although I didn't like Jerec as a bad, this model is very nice.

bleek
09-22-2002, 03:33 AM
Thx Toonces:p . Well, if you ever have a model you need a skinner for...I'd luv to!!! I see a flaw in my Jerec skin so far though:( .....he seems so pale. I'm trying to add some orange-ish colors to parts of his face and blend that in. Post some pics when I get it looking better.

bleek
09-22-2002, 01:40 PM
Fixed his face some and gave him a sorta buzzcut look:D .

Jerec - Blue (http://www.geocities.com/bleekage/rep.html?1032712555230)

inbredyokel
09-24-2002, 08:26 PM
Looking very nice bleek. I like what you did with the strap on the back of his head. Only thing I can suggest is to soften the lines a bit and add some slight shading behind the temples and cheeks to make him look a little thinner.

bleek
09-24-2002, 11:35 PM
I'll try to add some more color and shading. Yeah his head is really really round:p . Has a big plump ol' head. Haven't skinned anything new on it in a couple days though. Got his collar done...thats as far as I've gone down.

inbredyokel
10-01-2002, 04:45 PM
The actual skin of Jerec has been complete for a while, but I've been waiting for a few mesh issues to be resolved so I could show the skin with shaders. The shaders still aren't ready, but I decided to show what I've got anyway, since this thread hasn't been updated in a while.

http://www.geocities.com/inbredyokel2000/jerex.txt

12thMonkey
10-01-2002, 04:59 PM
That looks like some sweet skinning there.

Grets Sirob
10-01-2002, 06:15 PM
*sniff*

I'm so happy I could just kiss you...

But I won't...

PhantomHelix
10-01-2002, 06:57 PM
so, u r sayin that this skin/model whatever its called is very close to finished and is pending release? awesome.....thats gonna be so sweet dude.....i love this model and i cant wait til its release to the public :D

The Count
10-03-2002, 12:44 PM
I cannot wait

PhantomHelix
10-06-2002, 09:59 PM
*bump*

so, are the issues resolved and is this model pending release now?

*crosses fingers and mutters "oh please oh please oh please..."*

Madjai
10-07-2002, 12:13 AM
im working on facial animations right now, but i think the mouth shader problem is still there... ill keep trying different things. and i believe inbredyokel is still working on the shaders.

Grets Sirob
10-07-2002, 12:40 AM
*rubs hands together*
He's coming, after all this time, he's coming...

Sithcloak
10-07-2002, 01:28 PM
It looks great, I can't wait for its release.

Sithcloak

gorganfloss
10-08-2002, 12:21 AM
wow.
Cant wait for it to be finished. Nice job! :thumbsup:

The Count
10-08-2002, 12:35 PM
It's totally fantastic what a great model can't wait to replace him with Desann! stupid Lizard!

žith Lord
10-08-2002, 02:01 PM
Truly a fantastic model, which dark jedi have you decided to do next?

Madjai
10-08-2002, 02:12 PM
Boc

im very busy right now though, got lots of projects and mid-terms to do.

12thMonkey
10-08-2002, 04:58 PM
I was hoping you would do Boc next.:D

Mest
10-14-2002, 01:56 AM
i know your busy but how soon until this model is finished?

Madjai
10-14-2002, 02:06 AM
if my skinner was finished tomorrow, i could get it done tomorrow.
but i have no definite answer.

inbredyokel
10-14-2002, 02:44 AM
You're waiting for me? Heh, I thought I was waiting for the updated mesh with the mouth thing fixed. In that case I can probably have things ready in a couple days, although I'm not sure how far bleek is on the blue skin.

Madjai
10-14-2002, 12:16 PM
well im not really waiting on you, i still have some weighting to do but if you were to send me the finished stuff id be motivated to finish it asap.

Toonces
10-16-2002, 06:50 AM
Had a bout of insomnia tonight and when that happens I like to work :D Jerec is now very shiny inbred, check your inbox :)

inbredyokel
10-16-2002, 07:28 PM
Thanks to Toonces for the perdy shaders. Jerec default is now totally done.
http://www.geocities.com/inbredyokel2000/ingamej.txt
I'm also almost finished with red Jerec (just have to get some alphas in order). I'll probably ship them off to Madjai tonight. Now we just need to wait on the blue skin....

Toonces
10-16-2002, 08:06 PM
Sure, glad to help :) I've gotten pretty good and quick at making up thoes shaders now so it was really no trouble what so ever :)

Oh, and I really love the model Maj :D You guys have done an exelent job with him

inbredyokel
10-17-2002, 02:11 AM
Sooo...anyone heard from bleek lately? I haven't seen him around in quite a while. Hopefully he's still planning on doing the blue skin.

adillon
10-17-2002, 10:48 AM
jerec is looking badder than ever (that's bad meaning good, NOT bad meaning bad)! great job fellas!

what is the sound situation for jerec? i finally found my copy of JK1 ... talk about a blast from the past.

if you're still looking for sounds/taunts/etc, let me know. :D

12thMonkey
10-17-2002, 04:50 PM
He looks real hard in that pic.

The default model looks so accurate, even down to how thick the tattoos on his face are look perfect.

inbredyokel
10-17-2002, 07:54 PM
Oh yeah, I completely forgot I was going to rip some sounds from the jk1 cutscenes...hmm, good thing you brought that up. I think all of the sounds(except for taunts) are coming from the jerec model from jk1. I'll try to get as many good taunts together as I can, for all us jedimod/jediplus users out there.
<-----BTW, the creepy face in my avatar is red ctf jerec's head. I think I may have reached a new high in disturbing skin creation.

Scotchy
10-17-2002, 08:31 PM
Looking very nice. Can't wait to play with him.

The Count
10-19-2002, 07:07 PM
Jerec looks nice Bleek where are you?

Mest
10-20-2002, 01:04 AM
cant wait until this model is released. sorry if this has been asked a bunch but do you have an estimate for a release date? (i know i am impatient and i have come to cope with it).

Madjai
10-20-2002, 03:35 PM
please dont spam this thread

Toonces
10-20-2002, 03:40 PM
Yeah, no need to spam, and dude, just actually read a little bit, you'll see this thread and model is hardly dead :)

Sounds Risky
10-20-2002, 05:35 PM
Madjai or inbred, don't you have his email? Or have you tried that already?

Mest
10-20-2002, 06:43 PM
hey madjai arent you working on a Jedi Knight TC? hows that comming?

Madjai
10-20-2002, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by Mest
hey madjai arent you working on a Jedi Knight TC? hows that comming?

slowly but surely, on my part at least. im starting with the hardest part, the player models. ive finished legless Maw, Jerec (almost), and im working on Boc's mesh. the link to the site is in my sig.

inbred, have you tried emailing him? if not, tell me so i will.
if he doesnt respond within a few days just take your skin and highlight it blue or something, doesnt have to look different.

Darth Loki
10-20-2002, 07:44 PM
Boc? cool. another twi'lek model. how are you going to do the lekku?

Madjai
10-20-2002, 07:57 PM
his back right one will go around his neck and over his shoulder, while the back left one will hang down and sort of cling to his right side.

Darth Loki
10-20-2002, 08:05 PM
Cool. Though I thought you'd try to animate them like on the Aayla model...

DarkLord_44
10-20-2002, 08:07 PM
I can get the sounds from jk1 if you need them.

Madjai
10-20-2002, 08:18 PM
thats alright, ive got all the sounds from jk1.

inbredyokel
10-20-2002, 11:41 PM
I've emailed him about it. Hopefully he'll be able to finish it, and if necessary I can just send him my clothing texture files and he can modify them as he sees fit for his design. This week is going to be VERY hectic for me, so I'll do what I can to finish everything tonight and tomorrow and send it over.

Darth Loki
10-21-2002, 01:38 AM
Sounds like its almost ready to be released...

Grets Sirob
10-21-2002, 01:56 AM
"Almost there.
Almost there...":biggs:
:D

inbredyokel
10-21-2002, 03:49 PM
Well, my email to bleek was just returned, so I guess it's safe to say we'll be needing someone else to skin a blue Jerec. I'd rather not just recolor mine, but I know we're pressed for time. So as a little compromise, if someone just wants to skin a new head and doesn't want to totally redo the clothing, I'll send them everything from the neck down to modify as they please. If anyone wants to give it a shot, post here or PM me. I will need to see some sample work though.

mariners2001
10-21-2002, 06:46 PM
i can give it a shot, my work is posted in my signature. if anyone has some ideas about a good blue skin tell me. e-mail me here (robinhawk@yahoo.com) if you're interested.

bleek
10-22-2002, 05:56 PM
Sorry I haven't been on in sooooo long....
I have not gotten to work on the Jerec model at all really...I only have his head finished. If you want I can send you the head of him and mabey someone else can finish the body...or you can add the head to your red version and change the colors to blue. I never got an email either soooo..i dunno whats up wit that. Just tell me what ya wanna do....I gotta get busy again on work:mad: .

Heres a couple pix
Jerec - blue head (http://www.geocities.com/bleekage/bleek.html?1035320002150)
Sry...I dun have much time to finish it and I don't play JO very much anymore:( .

inbredyokel
10-23-2002, 01:24 AM
How's about I email you the jpegs of the body textures and you can play with them to fit your head?

The Count
10-23-2002, 08:53 PM
That would be a good idea.

The Count
10-29-2002, 07:15 PM
Any updates about Jerec?

inbredyokel
10-29-2002, 08:35 PM
I'm just waiting for a fixed shader from toonces (red jerec has a hole in his head). Other than that, I need to do the bot file and come up with a blue skin if I don't hear from bleek. Not sure what the progress on the sound pack is tho....

The Count
10-31-2002, 01:19 PM
Damn that sort of means he won't be with us soon damn I want this model so much!

The Count
11-05-2002, 07:53 AM
Any Release Date Or Info Updates?

Mest
11-05-2002, 10:00 PM
not to seem impatient but I'm dying here! could you just post a single screen of the original jerec (not ctf/team colored) from a front view? sorry if you have already posted one earlier but even that i would consider an update and will hold me for a few more weeks.

[JKZ]_Yun
11-07-2002, 10:14 AM
cool model i can't wait :cool: :yoda::blubeam: :greed:

[JKZ]_Yun
11-21-2002, 09:32 AM
some new updates??

Madjai
11-22-2002, 02:55 AM
ill be sending him out on the weekend

hooah!

edit: oh and if anyone was wondering where ive been, let me explain. i usually get bored when doing the same thing over and over, at first it was mapping, now its modeling. to keep myself entertained ive been playing the new Half-Life mod Natural Selection (fun stuff)

i might start modeling again or i might not ever again. but one thing is for certain, i will finish anything ive started.

Hellfire Jedi
11-24-2002, 01:30 PM
This weekend?

[JKZ]_Yun
11-24-2002, 02:44 PM
i hope it comes out This weekend! :D

Mest
12-02-2002, 09:38 PM
So how's the model comming along?

inbredyokel
12-02-2002, 11:26 PM
As far as I know it's complete...I just don't know what Madjai is up to atm. I'll send him an email.

Hellfire Jedi
12-03-2002, 09:07 PM
Did he reply if so what did he say cuz i thought he was gonna ship it ou on da weekend :) I want this one bad

inbredyokel
12-03-2002, 09:31 PM
He said the file was too big for his hotmail account, so he needed to transfer it to another computer or something along those lines(I don't exactly know the technicalities of it). Basically, he'll get to it when he gets to it.

Hellfire Jedi
12-03-2002, 09:32 PM
o hope its soon then

inbredyokel
12-05-2002, 03:23 PM
I have received word from Madjai that Jerec has been sent off to jk2files.com, so keep your eye out for it for whenever they update.

Toonces
12-05-2002, 03:42 PM
Coolness :) If you have the zip file inbred, shoot it over to me and I'll post it asap. I'll give you some front page pimpage as well :D

Mex
12-05-2002, 03:44 PM
So inother words, ITS OUT!?

Yeeees! Yeeeeeeeeeeeees! :party:

inbredyokel
12-05-2002, 05:02 PM
I'd send it over, but alas, I don't have the sound pack. If I get my hands on it before its uploaded, I'll send it over.

Hellfire Jedi
12-05-2002, 05:18 PM
inbred this ****ing sucks becuz jk2files.com is as slow as molassis maybe slower so odds are there won't be a nice little update untill tommorow or later >_<
I wish there new staff would upload stuff i sent something in before maybe 2 weeks ago there top theif NOT SAYING NAME who updates a lot didnt post it >_<

*SORRY FOR OFF TOPIC*

Toonces
12-05-2002, 05:25 PM
Cool inbred, if I see it in my inbox I'll put it up for you :)

Hellfire, I'm sorry your mod wasn't posted yet. I'm a Filemaster and a News poster here and frankly I have been way too busy to upload anything in the last week. Life has been very busy and I'm juggleing like 8 different projects at the moment. The problem is that we still do not have enough staff

Tonight I'm going to try and catch up a little on the backlog but I should mention that with the exception of a handfull of files posted by other people I've had almost no help uploading what so ever.

Mex
12-05-2002, 05:43 PM
How hard is it exactly, just to upload files?! There hasnt been a file update in about 2 days! :eek:

And www.jk2files.com keeps putting crap boring files up, and they are very slow... :(

Hellfire Jedi
12-05-2002, 05:52 PM
Toonces 1 thing another off topic sorry guys,
I wouldn't insult jkii.net like i did jk2files.com becuz jkii.net has posted a lot of good things and has had new members that work hard on it,
jk2files.com has a BUNCH of new filemasters and i submitted gir model to jk2files.com and they didnt put it up *NOTE* 2 weeks ago =/
Jk2files.com is as slow as hell jkii.net is slow becuz not many people visit it becuz last some knew it was unable to download from....

Toonces
12-05-2002, 06:03 PM
Flanders, It's not difficult to upload files, I have a rediclously high upload speed. The thing is it's not just about uploading the files to the site. Everything has to be inspected and tested. After that I routienely have to crop photos, write discriptions, add links, and type directory paths. It's not very hard to do but it's very time consumeing.

Hellfire, you've been around for a while so I know your a good guy who's just a little frustrated :) I'm going to try and catch up as much as I can tonight, it's just that I'm the only one who's been uploading things recently with a few exceptions

Anyway, sorry about all this O/T stuff, it's good to talk about it though :)

The Count
12-05-2002, 07:31 PM
Well I don't mind when it gets released because my Graphics Card is absolutely lost it, and until I get a new one I can't download Jerec or play Jedi Outcast, Damn. First the Dark Forces Demo, The Jedi pack and now Jerec this sucks oh well tell me how good they are when you play them.

Hellfire Jedi
12-05-2002, 07:35 PM
5 New omni crud but no jerec *me saddened* :P Well i will prolly have snow day tommrow got outside like 4-6 inches of snow now
Btw Toonces thanks for the compliment man your a great guy to us all doing all this for us and i appriciate it more than most people little frustrated becuz of my past but lets not bring that up here plz :)
I can't wait one second longer for ur obi and so on toonces too but im ****ting myself becuz they won't post Jerec :)
Also if anyknows where i could get a little 3dsmax under the table free so i can model PM me thnx I was gonna make a model for my clan emporor......
:D sorry for some off topic in there guys ;)

Hellfire Jedi
12-05-2002, 09:33 PM
OMFG MORE OMNI STUFF NO JEREC THIS IS CRUD
=/ Fringe on psykotic rage...

inbredyokel
12-05-2002, 09:42 PM
That is pretty ridiculous. I hate it when clans expect sites to host huge files when the stuff is basically for their clan's personal use. If your clan is really that important, use your own website!! It looks like Omni has wasted about 200 mb of jk2files.com's web space just by repackaging files into zips for their convenience.

t3rr0r
12-05-2002, 09:48 PM
yes, this is getting extremely rediculous...

Hekx
12-05-2002, 10:29 PM
It took them ages to put my file up, which isn't that great :D

Just keep resending it, they'll get the point eventually.

Or get a news poster to upload it and post it at JKII.net ;)

OmniMod is becoming the new JediPlus.
Woopie. :indif:

Good old ProMod and JediMod :D

Hellfire Jedi
12-05-2002, 10:33 PM
There to busy upping that crap WHICH should be posted at
www.omniclan.com
Instead of jk2files.com people post those and forget about other good files... and its plain gay

Hekx
12-05-2002, 10:37 PM
Clan stuff shouldn't be put on JK2 sites, methinks.
:rolleyes:

t3rr0r
12-05-2002, 10:54 PM
on the topic of the omni packs... they deleted all but 2 from the site. :xp:

Hekx
12-06-2002, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by MasterJediZach from jk2files.com
Well, we never got any Jerec model in our email....... :rolleyes: Send it again ;)

Garik Loran
12-06-2002, 11:35 AM
Isn't there anyone here who has a ftp server with unlimited traffic? We could throw together a small site with just the best models linked, so it's not too much work to upload them and we don't have to wait so long when a model is finished.

If someone has a fileserver... I could do the rest.

Hekx
12-06-2002, 12:05 PM
ISP webspace normally has unlimited bandwidth, but limited space. I believe my ISP space is 55MB.

I'd suggest www.lycos.co.uk or www.anzwers.org. ;)

Garik Loran
12-06-2002, 03:05 PM
Okay, that part with the free webspace was a good idea.
I threw something together that may solve the problem.
It's the work of some minutes, so it can be improved ;) , but this was just to show what I mean.

I think a table with a preview, author and download link would be enough for the model files.

Look @ www.jo-files.tk to see the WIP model page.
If you have any suggestions just tell me.

Toonces
12-06-2002, 04:04 PM
It never showed up in the jediknightii.net inbox either alough I don't know if Maj sent it there. The second I get the file I'll put it up on Jediknightii.net and you'll have all the bandwith you need :D

Hellfire Jedi
12-06-2002, 04:16 PM
Maybe Maj lied and wanted inbred to stop asking *NOT MEANING TO OFFEND*
Or that one of the dip**** jk2files guys deleted it... posibilitys

Pyro638
12-06-2002, 04:26 PM
Really cool model, i am def. gonna d/l it! :D :cool:

I was just wondering if any modelers who know how to convert models into JK:II can help me out with somthing (click my sig.).

Thanks

Keep up the good work!

inbredyokel
12-06-2002, 04:58 PM
I'm sure Madjai sent it in, I'm just guessing it was accidentally deleted or ignored by jk2files.com. There's absolutely no reason he would have to lie to me, since he's put a ton of work into this model too. Unfortunately that was the only place he sent it, but I've sent a couple emails to him asking him to email it to me. Hopefully we can get it out there tonight.

reaper1576
12-07-2002, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by inbredyokel
I'm sure Madjai sent it in, I'm just guessing it was accidentally deleted or ignored by jk2files.com. There's absolutely no reason he would have to lie to me, since he's put a ton of work into this model too. Unfortunately that was the only place he sent it, but I've sent a couple emails to him asking him to email it to me. Hopefully we can get it out there tonight.

Hey if theres anyproblem getting it up send it over and i will put it up un the Dark Forces 2 Enhanced site cos madjai told me he sent it off as well

inbredyokel
12-08-2002, 03:18 AM
Just got Jerec from Madjai, and he's been sent off to Toonces. I'll send it out to other sites tomorrow after work. And reaper, feel free to put it up on the Dark Forces II enhanced site if you like when you get it from jediknightii.net, or I can send it to you.

Toonces
12-08-2002, 04:42 AM
Coolness, I just put him up so enjoy :) I'll post some news in a second

http://www.jediknightii.net/files/index.php?link=file&id=1069

Mex
12-08-2002, 06:42 AM
Well, yay, but it wont let me download anything, and all the adverts are 'page cannot be displayed' same with the screenie!

Garik Loran
12-08-2002, 07:25 AM
I'm not the guy who says "WOW" to everything he sees on this forum. But Jerec....
WOW. :D
I just downloaded it and tried it, it's great. Reminds me of good ol' JK1. Just the model looks so much better.

It makes me feel like dancin'....

12thMonkey
12-08-2002, 07:26 AM
I just downloaded and played him.

Thanks a lot guys, he's great.

Srikin Talilles
12-08-2002, 10:48 AM
It looks great! :p Hope to see more of your models soon :D

t3rr0r
12-08-2002, 11:00 AM
this model is so great... i just love it. :D

Hekx
12-08-2002, 12:30 PM
Very nice model :thumbsup:
Good work everyone :)

WhiteShdw
12-08-2002, 12:31 PM
I wasn't too excited about this model at first. Until i finally played JK1. I just finished it last week.

Now i have to say that you did excellent work. I'm really impressed how you managed to capture the likeness of Jerec from the cutscenes in that game. He really does look like the actor playing Jerec.

Mex
12-08-2002, 12:34 PM
I just downloaded it! [Had troubles before]

And there is only 1 word to describe this... Well there isnt a workd! Its too great!

Tons of people were like, wow that jerec model rocks, when I was playing it, Gj guys!
And one more thing, I think there should be a jerec smilie! :cool:

Mest
12-08-2002, 10:00 PM
finally, i have been waiting for this model since it was first posted as a WIP and now i can finally play with it. great job guys, keep it up.

Pyro638
12-08-2002, 10:38 PM
Mwahahahaa! Jerec is badass! Great model :cheers:

Keep up the good work ;)

Mest
12-09-2002, 01:02 AM
i know that since you and majai have done both maw and jerec now, and are working on a Jedi Knight Total Conversion. does that mean that you guys will be making models of Sariss, Yun, Boc, Gorc and Pic? i certainly hope so.

frendon
12-09-2002, 01:51 AM
I second that!! :D i would love to see all the dark jedis from Jedi Knight, and you 2 have made a great work with both models (Maw and Jerec) so i know you can make a great job with those too. :cool:

Hekx
12-09-2002, 07:36 AM
The sounds can get a little tedious, hehe.
Especially when you fight a few Jerec bots.

But I've never played JK, so I have no idea who or what he sounds like ;)

Mest
12-10-2002, 09:38 PM
actually those jerec sounds were taken straight from Jedi Knight i believe.