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QueZTone
08-19-2002, 01:18 PM
okay im in the middle of a monkey island marathon in which im replaying all games in chronological order...

well...im 3/4th through the marathon and here's my recent feelings towards MI1,2 and 3..

Secret of Monkey Island
Fun: classic
Humor: perfect
Story: original
Art style: wonderful
Ending: Satisfying
Conclusion: It still feels great.

LeChuck's Revenge
Fun: classic
Humor: perfect
Story: amazing (lot of islands, very good!)
Art style: best yet
Ending: Philosphying
Conclusion: Best mi-game yet with SMI closely behind. Places like Woodtick are just unforgetable.

Curse of Monkey Island
Fun: okayish
Humor: quite good
Voice Acting: perfect
Story: good, though too many plot holes
Art style: not right for mi, but nice nontheless
Ending: Really bad
Conclusion: I liked the cutscenes a lot. What's up with that dinghy dog? That's way overdone. Carnival of the Damned in CMI? Blegh stupid.

Escape of Monkey Island
- [no comments yet, still have to re-play it, starting now]


what the point of this thread is? I have no idea. But if you recently replayed any of the games, feel free to speak up about your feelings towards the games here :)

MrManager
08-19-2002, 01:30 PM
I have mixed feelings about the visual style of CMI. Background wise I think it's without a doubt the better looking game of the four - it's similar to MI2, yet has it's own individual style.

Characters... I don't mind the fact that they're cartoony, but some of them look kinda wrong, especially Guybrush, Elaine and LeChuck. I wish they had stuck to something a bit more similar to what they did in MI2. Then again, that's just my personal opinion.

Hellbeard
08-19-2002, 01:35 PM
What ever, MI1 will always still be my favorite! My favorite MI games in this order!

MI1
MI2
MI3
MI4

Originally posted by RemiO
Characters... I don't mind the fact that they're cartoony, but some of them look kinda wrong, especially Guybrush, Elaine and LeChuck. I wish they had stuck to something a bit more similar to what they did in MI2. Then again, that's just my personal opinion.
Guybrush looked strange, Elaine was Alright, LeChuck Was Amazing!! He couldn't of Looked Better!

Juniorô
08-19-2002, 05:54 PM
I guess my order will be this one:

CMI
LCR
SOMI
EMI

But I love all of them so it might change soon...

QueZTone
08-19-2002, 08:53 PM
I agree with you Remi. Guybrush isn't some cartoony looking figure..

at least in EMI he looks human again :) also the outfit of Guybrush in CMI sucked big time..

anyway im in the middle of EMI and i think i like it more than CMI after all, despite of the major plotholes it has a more fun and diverse story and some other pros over CMI

mi2 and mi1 gfx rocked them all!

QueZTone
08-20-2002, 07:51 AM
There. I finished re-playing EMI and therefore completed the MI marathon. Hmm so finally my comments to EMI..

Curse of Monkey Island
Fun: yeah
Humor: 'okay'
Voice Acting: perfect
Story: waaaaaaay too many plot holes (unforgivable)
Art style: nice change, too much smurf town though
Ending: Really good for the game it is
Conclusion: I liked the cutscenes a lot. Though the H.T. plotholes are unforgivable, as is the Jojo Sr. thing. Jambalaya sucks, tourists suck, the giant robot sucks, monkey kombat sucks, hmm.. but overall i think its a better game than CMI

Hellbeard
08-20-2002, 10:03 AM
I like CMI better than EMI for some reason?

MrManager
08-20-2002, 10:41 AM
Overall I did like EMI more than CMI, which may or may not be because I don't care about the plot holes (it's Monkey Island, not Shakespeare), but anyway, yes MI2 0wnz all.

bgbennyboy
08-20-2002, 10:53 AM
My feelings towards EMI have been voiced on many occasions - I dont like it at all.

I am however, extremely fond of MI 1,2 and 3 with MI2 of course being the best.

To sum up my feelings towards EMI (rather than having my usual EMI rant post) I dislike it for many of the reasons that I disliked LOTR when I first saw it at the cinema - it doesnt live up to the original(s), contorts and distorts the pure original vision and adds some new daft bits.

Ok perhaps that wasnt the best analogy after all

QueZTone
08-20-2002, 10:55 AM
agreed. :)

btw that Church of LeChuck and the whole lava thing on Monkey Island left me with a dirty aftertaste though...Monkey Island should be a true paradise! :) Rivers, trees, bays, beaches and an INACTIVE volcano ;p I didn't really like the particular 'LeChuck Church and Lava puzzle' and that Viewpoint puzzle was just insane. Oh well.


we all agree on the emi cutscenes being beautiful i hope? :) One of the best scenes are the moment Guybrush says "Oh yeah? Well you fight like a cow!" to LeChuck who just walked out of the Mansion. And that other cutscene where first LeChuck 'Bwahahahahaha's' and then Ozzie does it too, and then Guybrush too, that was uber-funny imo. :)

MrManager
08-20-2002, 11:02 AM
I'd also like to add that that I feel EMI was treated kinda unfairly by some. I mean, say what you want about it being a bad Monkey Island game or whatever, but it was at the very least a very good adventure game, and a funny one at that. I think a lot of people have just decided not to see anything positive in it at all, which is kinda sad. It's a fun game to play whichever way you look at it.

QueZTone
08-20-2002, 06:45 PM
yeah :) if you sqeeuze your eyes and look past the plotholes, EMI is really a humorous adventure game :) Again, i loved the cutscenes and the story had mine side stories etc.

Hellbeard
08-20-2002, 09:23 PM
Does anyone like MI1 more than MI2!?:confused:

CrazyOldMan
08-21-2002, 03:52 AM
Originally posted by Hellbeard
Does anyone like MI1 more than MI2!?:confused:

I do.

I don't know why people don't like CMI as much...I thought it was visually appealing, very mysterious (Blood Island especially) and very funny.

I thought Guybrush looked great, Elaine looked great and even LeChuck looked great.

EMI sucked serious ass.

Hi-Jinx
08-21-2002, 04:35 AM
I can understand why someone would dislike EMI the first time around, it took me 2 times to get the hang of it because I couldn't get past the mysts of tyme the 1st time around. ^^;

IMO, I thought EMI was brilliant. Sure, the controls leave your thumbs begging for a rest and massage, but they'll probably make the controls a little easier the next time they make an MI sequal.

I love the extra little goodies you get in the game, like the FMV cutscene playbacks. I even liked the Church of LeChuck. Even though he didn't get much mention during the 1st disc. It sure as heck made up for it in on the 2nd.

As for plotholes, if you take the time to piece all the jigsaw together, it actually makes sense in parts.

I'm pro-EMI, it's just a shame people still continue to be biast towards it. ;(

Governor Phatt
08-21-2002, 09:53 AM
To be honest, i thought EMI was ok, it kinda worked as a MI game, i don't think it was as bad as people have made it.... although it did try to spend too much time with Cameo's, and the humour just wasn't right.

CMI, i like much better and i think its a lot longer than EMI. I was really shocked at how quickly i arrived at Monkey island, especially in comparison to CMI, where i prolly spent something like 2 weeks trying to solve that bloody Blondebeard/bubblegum/gold tooth puzzle.

The only things that annoyed me about CMI was the ending (from the rollercoaster of death onwards)

I do agree that EMI's cutscenes were brilliant, and the end was a bit more satisfying. I don't hate EMI, even as a MI game, i just prefer CMI....

Or MI2, Which is the best

Hi-Jinx
08-21-2002, 10:11 AM
Some good points there, Phatt. But do you really think CMI was longer? The longest puzzle in that for me was getting stuck in the quicksand. (Stop laughing at me)

I agree with you about the ending, after LeChuck going on with himself like a blithering ijit, the rollercoaster of death was a bit dissapointing.

I hope we get more FMV cutscenes in the next game. I thought they were honestly wicked. Also, is it just me or does LeChuck sound more ambiguous and arrogant in EMI while in CMI he sounded more angry and forceful.

*Wonders if she'll ever get to see an FMV shower scene of LeChuck*

........

Stop looking at me like that!! *Crys* ;)

Governor Phatt
08-21-2002, 10:16 AM
Well when i say it was longer i mean it took me me longer to finish it.
I completed EMI in about two or three days, while CMI it took me ages...

I thought LeChuck in CMI Was a bit cartoony and silly. He wasn't nearly as evil as he was in the first two... but he was still kinda Lechuck.

In EMI they did the same to him as they did to Guybrush, and just made him plain stupid.

I wanna see Uber-Evil Lechuck again ALA MI2...

And I think Lechuck in the shower would be gross *hahaha*

(although if it was Elaine from EMI...) *ahem*

MrManager
08-21-2002, 10:43 AM
I doubt you'll be seeing a lot of pre-rendered cut-scenes in the next Monkey Island game(s). The trend now seems to be making everything as interactive as possible, something I know big names/teams like Tim Schafer, Team Silent (Silent Hill designers) and (I believe) Sean Clark have mentioned. With the quality of ingame graphics catching up with pre-rendered scenes it kinda makes sense really - the EMI cut-scenes would be even cooler if they were interactive.

Hellbeard
08-21-2002, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by CrazyOldMan
I do.
:eek: , A mod agree's with me!

RicardoLuigi...
08-22-2002, 05:44 PM
THe MI2 ending was kind of weird...:confused:

scabb
08-22-2002, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by Governor Phatt
Well when i say it was longer i mean it took me me longer to finish it.
I completed EMI in about two or three days, while CMI it took me ages...

Arr! Twas the same for me too.

Juniorô
08-22-2002, 06:07 PM
Hmmm, actually I needed quite the same time for each of the games...okay, I cannot count in SOMI and LCR since I was 6/7 and my brother helped me.

Hellbeard
08-22-2002, 07:03 PM
You should of got Monkey Madness!

Governor Phatt
08-23-2002, 05:18 AM
Its crazy cos my mum plays them too, and when she finds a puzzle hard, its one that i found really easy.... and vice versa.

People just have different ways of thinking about puzzles.

Which is also why people have varied opinions on EMI's length, its nothing to do with how good the game is....

RicardoLuigi...
08-23-2002, 10:01 AM
I remember in SOMI, I actually got stuck on the part where Shinetop tosses you in the water. It actually took me a few tries to realize that all I had to do was pick up the idol.:o