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Weapon X
08-24-2002, 03:21 AM
padme can't die, she has to have luke and leia and leia has to have memories of her
anakin CAN'T fall into lava, that may have been an earlier theory but vader's head shows that he gets cut up by a lightsaber at the MOST, or else falls into lava up to his neck, right:rolleyes:
ayla secura, plo koon, kit fisto, etc. can't live (as much as we all want them to:() cuz then lucas would be contradicting himself, this thread was mainly to get across that anakin CAN'T AND WILL NOT fall into any sort of lava, that would just be stupid and there would be no way it could happen, his skin would melt from his face, his eyeballs would burst, his brain would cook, so to sum it up:
Anakin Skywalker gets cut up by another jedi (most likely obi-wan) and gets found, barely alive, by sidious and put into the suit we all know and love, he doesn't fall into lava

Ratmjedi
08-24-2002, 03:48 AM
I was watching Nightline last night and it was about people who had had burns on there face. There faces were destroyed and they looked like they were melting. He might not fall into a pit of lava but I do think that he will be touched by it.

Maybe he will fall and they are very far up and he will fall down into myst were Obi-Wan can't see him anymore. He will have injuries from the fall but he will also of been touched by lava. I mean why is he so white? And we do not know what the rest of his body looks like! But I do think that lava will touch him in some way or another. He also will fall onto a ledge very far down. Or maybe he will be touched by gas that is hot.

Anybody else have ideas?
:lsduel: :duel:

thehomicidalegg
08-24-2002, 05:28 AM
maybe he gets cut up by dooku when/if they fight. hes white cuz in his suit his skin wouldnt be exposed to sunlight. after several decades like that it would be pretty pale.

Sivy
08-24-2002, 10:13 AM
Being cut up by a lightsaber would not mean he would have to wear a suit and would need the helmet to breathe (i don't think obi-wan is going to cut off all his limbs and give him a few blows to the head). So I think he does fall into something, probably not lava, although that's what the star wars: a new hope book says.
Maybe something simular to the droid factory on geonesis.

Pad
08-24-2002, 10:51 AM
Darth Vader, the powerfull Dark Lord of the Sith, lived his menacing existence sealed within a complex array of armor and life support equipment. Rumored to be more machine than man, Vader was dependent upon the black armored suit he wore for his very life. He could exist outside his highly-specialized shell only by remaining within a "meditation chamber" aboard his flagship that filled all the same life functions requirements.
Vader, formerly Anakin Skywalker, had been a healthy, joung yedi at one time. During a lightsaber battle with his Jedi Master, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Vader fell into a molten pit. Kenobi left him for dead, but Vader survived. Unable to breath on his own, Vader was therafter forced to wear a breath mask and life-supporting armor. In various confrontations, both during his youth and after yielding to the dark side of the Force, Vader substained massive tho racic injuries and the loss of at least one limb.

i think that covers it! :D

AgentSmith
08-24-2002, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by ep2 Anakin
ayla secura, plo koon, kit fisto, etc. can't live (as much as we all want them to cuz then lucas would be contradicting himself

Why not? First of all no one has ever said the Jedi Purges will occurr during Episode III. They might very well take place after Episode III.
Plus it would be very unrealistic if Vader (even aided by a rising Empire) would be able to kill all of the 9000 Jedi.
Lucas has hinted that other Jedi besides Yoda and Obi-Wan did survive the Jedi Purges.

Weapon X
08-24-2002, 01:35 PM
where did he say that? i wanna read, after seeing ep1&2 i don't want all the jedi to die:(

vader is white cuz he has no sun exposure, if he fell into lava his eyes wouldn't be there anymore, lava is EXTREMELY hot, i watched a video about scientists and lava one day and getting within 20 or so feet of it caused their shoes to melt, so i think falling into it would make him a little bit more messed up than we saw him, we never saw the rest of his body, right, does that mean he still doesn't have any flesh on him? no, does that mean it looks like his head was cut up by a saber? yes, look what qui-gon does to the door in ep1, then look at vader's exposed head, the trail looks the same to me, anyways, anakin can't fall into lava, he will get cut up, and maybe hit with steam, or a shot of molten metal but that would be it, he CAN'T fall into ANY molten pit of ANY kind, that would be stupid and contradict ep6

Pad
08-24-2002, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by Padanime
Darth Vader, the powerfull Dark Lord of the Sith, lived his menacing existence sealed within a complex array of armor and life support equipment. Rumored to be more machine than man, Vader was dependent upon the black armored suit he wore for his very life. He could exist outside his highly-specialized shell only by remaining within a "meditation chamber" aboard his flagship that filled all the same life functions requirements.
Vader, formerly Anakin Skywalker, had been a healthy, joung yedi at one time. During a lightsaber battle with his Jedi Master, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Vader fell into a molten pit. Kenobi left him for dead, but Vader survived. Unable to breath on his own, Vader was therafter forced to wear a breath mask and life-supporting armor. In various confrontations, both during his youth and after yielding to the dark side of the Force, Vader substained massive tho racic injuries and the loss of at least one limb.

i think that covers it! :D

this is true ppl, i got it out a book i have!

Kryllith
08-24-2002, 04:06 PM
That falls along the lines of using EU material to prove something from the canon. It just doesn't work...

Kryllith

Pad
08-24-2002, 04:29 PM
wtf r u talkin about?

ckcsaber
08-24-2002, 05:18 PM
Im pretty sure GL said that anakin fell into lava

MotionMan
08-24-2002, 05:35 PM
First of all the book "star wars: a new hope book" was NOT written by George Lucas. Even though it has his name on the cover it was "ghost" written by another author, THUS making it semi EU.

My second point: It is a proven fact that the second flesh touches molten lava the flesh is singed to the bone. Seconds after the bone begins to burn down as well.

ckcsaber
08-24-2002, 06:27 PM
GL has so many henchmen to do his bidding! He didnt even direct ep 5 and 6

Sam
08-24-2002, 06:29 PM
I know what cant happen luke cant get hit by a car drivin by darth maul :D

icepool
08-24-2002, 11:35 PM
I think the battle is gonna take place by lava. I also believe vader will lose a limb when fighting obiwan and will be pushed over and fall into a lava pit. I dont believe he will fall into the lava. I think he will land on a ledge close to the lava. Being that close will burn him badly and destroy some of him not kill him. I also believe being that close to the lava the gas would destroy his lungs causing him to need the suit. Also I believe when Obiwan supposively leaves him for dead vader will climb back up with the force and his mechanical arm and somehow get back to coruscant and get to palpatine and then palpatine will make him better. By doing this he will have fully gotten vaders trust and then he will help anakin get revenge and hunt down the jedi for doing this to him.

Just my thoughts though!:D

JediNyt
08-25-2002, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by $am
I know what cant happen luke cant get hit by a car drivin by darth maul :D

Lol $am!

If Ani ever falls into a molten pit and survives he cant get any closer than several meters. The cuts on his head are definately from a lightsaber. Ive seen picutes of burn victims and they look nothing like Ani in ep6. His skin still has all the natural features of age. If he falls he wont touch the lava FACT! The vapors could burn him a bit and **** up his respratory system but thats it.

Weapon X
08-25-2002, 01:36 AM
good point, could happen


alls i'm saying/what i was trying to say, was that i'm REALLY skeptical about anakin falling into lava or any molten pit, his head in ep6 has saber cuts and his face in untouched, he may lose a limb and the vapors **** him up on the inside, he may get a shot of molten matter to the leg or something, but he can't fall in, his head is too intact in ep6 for it to have even come close to falling in, his eyeballs would've burst, his cheeks would've melted

i can see your pov padanime it's in the official ANH book so it should be the most reliable source other than george lucas, but like i said his head was too perfect (other than the saber cuts) to have been in/near lava


btw, thanx for that avatar, like it alot:D

Legacy_Of_Sith
08-25-2002, 02:40 AM
Boba can't be a bounty hunter by EP III, he'll be too young.

Ratmjedi
08-25-2002, 03:23 AM
I like you're idea Icepool. But I don't think that Anakin will go all the way to Coruscant. Palpatine will save him somehow after Obi-Wan leaves. Then I think we will see that he will get him and take him to get medical attention. Anakin will be to *ucked up to do all that Icepool said.
:duel: :lsduel:

Kit fisto JK
08-25-2002, 04:23 AM
no boba fett probably wont be a bounty hunter but he and the mandelorians should be in it
:D

Sith Inquisitor
08-25-2002, 09:33 AM
Originally posted by ckcsaber
GL has so many henchmen to do his bidding! He didnt even direct ep 5 and 6

That was because of idiotic Hollywood politics. I've heard lava, I've also heard molten metal. Either way he gets ravaged pretty badly in his duel with Obi-Wan.

How are you guys getting your animated gifs in here? I shrunk mine to 70 x 70 and it's still says it's too big.:D

Pad
08-25-2002, 11:24 AM
that text i wrote came out of my Technical Journal, an official star wars magazine

Cal_da_Darth
08-25-2002, 02:23 PM
Something else that cannot happen in SW3: I can't be in it! Darn! *snaps fingers*

:D

AgentSmith
08-26-2002, 05:37 AM
Something that CAN'T happen in Episode III: Aayla Secura dying.

Why? Because I said so. :p

:lol: Joking people.

Darth Damage
08-26-2002, 05:43 AM
well i thought anakin was gonna fall into that pit of lava but after reading the posts of the lava being a bit too overwhelming i think it cant happen. and keep in mind that the theory of him falling into a lava pit came from the ROTJ novel. And remember this IS Expanded Universe so dont believe everthing you hear....

JediNyt
08-26-2002, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by Cal_da_Darth
Something else that cannot happen in SW3: I can't be in it! Darn! *snaps fingers*

:D

Dam I wanna be in SW. Even a small part. If Im a Jedi who says a few lines, swings his saber for while and then dies, fine! Thats enough for me! :slsaber: :D :D :D

ckcsaber
08-26-2002, 08:14 PM
I would settle for any part in star wars!

Taos
08-27-2002, 01:26 AM
The reason why Vader/Anakin's and Emperor Palpatine's skin is so white along is because of what the dark side of the force does to a body. The wear and tear the darkside does is tremendous.

The darkside limits the time of someones' life while the lightside increases the time somebody may live (see Master Yoda).

Darth Damage
08-27-2002, 06:22 AM
exactly now he knows what hes sayin!

Taos
08-29-2002, 12:39 AM
Originally posted by Darth Damage
exactly now he knows what hes sayin!

Thank you Darth Damage!!!:cool:

Master Bodle
09-05-2002, 11:16 PM
Thankfully tht Lava pit idea has been cleared up and shown to be highly improbable. I wonder wot GL will come up with though will be interested to see in Ep III.


Kit Fisto can't die!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Pedro The Hutt
09-06-2002, 02:37 PM
Well apparently , like what most sources say, most Jedi will get annihalated during the Jedi purge. But it's also been noted that some Jedi did manage to escape and go into hiding. Obi-Wan and Yoda being fine examples. So just hope that your fave Jedi will be one of those few who manage to escape and live.

oslpchris
09-06-2002, 04:20 PM
I didn't think it was lava... I though Obi Wan knocked him into some acid? That's what I seem to remember reading in one of the original Star Wars Trilogy books anyway. It's been about 15 years since I've read it so I'm most likely wrong... you're right lava would be ridiculous... acid? quite possible.

chris
flame on!

JediNyt
09-06-2002, 11:04 PM
Nice sig oslpchris.
I was just thinking of acid myself too. Thats very possible. That could explain why his skin is so pale and grody and corroded. Just a theory guys so dont flame! :devburn: Its very possible! I know he didnt have exposure to much light and I know the dark side does **** to your body. There are many reasons a persons skin can be pale. So dont start your needless lectures to a fellow GEEK like ME!:cool: :cool: :cool: ;)