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$P4RK
09-05-2002, 05:17 AM
Lord of the Rings..or Harry Potter.

What one do you guys like?

I like Lord of the Rings.

Chastan
09-05-2002, 05:21 AM
Do you even have to ask? ;)

LOTR

thehomicidalegg
09-05-2002, 05:57 AM
uh...you are joking right?

LOTR

txa1265
09-05-2002, 07:16 AM
I have both DVD's, but only saw Harry Potter in the theater. Why? I have two small boys, 4 and 5.5. Too young for LotR, but perfect for HP.

Which was the better movie? LotR, no question. Tolkien set up a detailed universe - his books are more like history than fiction. Rowling tells a nice tale with nice characters.

But ... for the next few years, HP will be the dominanant fantasy theme with my boys. So, since I love sharing with them, I'd have to say I'd sooner grab the HP DVD off the shelf.

Mike

Pad
09-05-2002, 07:26 AM
i believe u r jokin right?

i think its obvious LOTR will win, crushes and leave potter far behind.

Kstar__2
09-05-2002, 08:35 AM
i've seen both in the theatre, and i have both DVDs. LOTR is by far the best, it has a much better feeling around, it, you really feel the movie around you (or is it the dolby digital 5.1 set in my living room?) i chose LOTR

Breton
09-05-2002, 09:47 AM
Firstly, I dony see anywhere that the poll is about the movies.

But anyway, even though the HP book was good, LOTR book still was better. If you do talk about the movie, then it is LOTR of course.

acdcfanbill
09-05-2002, 10:43 AM
Lord of the Rings...

Clemme w/Stick
09-05-2002, 01:27 PM
LOTR all the way baby!!

-Clemme

Darklighter
09-05-2002, 02:23 PM
Well, since Harry Potter was heavily influenced by LOTR, and because it was pretty bad (I just hate that kid...) I am going to go with LOTR...simply because it is an amazing movie, based on an amazing book...nuff said:D

NerfYoda
09-05-2002, 02:42 PM
Lord of the Rings of course. The books started a phenomenon (D&D.. countless fantasy spinoffs, not to mention three beautiful movies). Can't really say Harry Potter's done that (aside from kids dressing up as the guy while waiting for the maivie & buying random innana HP merchandise. :)).

grey_fox_001
09-05-2002, 04:51 PM
First of all I wanna say that Harry Potter film is crap. Its crap cause theres no character development in it unlike the books and they cut vital stuff out of it. Theyre not so inocent in the books, not made out to be perfect kids cause theyre not, they just made it like that so I can hardly blame most of you for saying its childish.

This also goes for the first book aswell in ways as if you look at it she had to write it in a way in which its gonna apeal to poeple, in the form of a tragic kid whos lost his parents having adventures, not about the proper story line of the books as much. Its not really like that if you read the later books Prisoner of Azkaban and The Goblet of Fire as the theme gets much darker and develops alot more into a theme of death and betrayal.

S please, dont judge off the film or the first book, theyre of really the bulk of the series. By all means, read it but dont judge solely on it or the film.

P.S.
As for Harry Potter being based off LotR, are you MAD?! Whered you hear that?

NerfYoda
09-05-2002, 04:57 PM
One could argue that LOTR spawned the modern fantasy genre, but I don't see it as a direct influence for Harry Potter.

grey_fox_001
09-05-2002, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by NerfYoda
One could argue that LOTR spawned the modern fantasy genre, but I don't see it as a direct influence for Harry Potter.

Theres no way it could have spawned from LotR, even indirectly. Its not like it in any way, and there have been fantasy stories before. Alot of things in Harry Potter are actualy taken from Legends and Folk Tales, the earliest forms of Fantasy genre. Nothings taken form or influenced by LotR.

obi
09-05-2002, 06:53 PM
Are you kidding?

Gandalf would have every single "hogwarts" personell doing his dishs!!!!

Darklighter
09-05-2002, 07:12 PM
Maybe a few *SPOILERS* here...

And what about the troll in Harry Potter (i.e., the cave troll in LOTR)...or the stone in Harry's pocket at the end, where Quirrell is trying to find it (i.e., the ring in Bilbo's pocket in the Hobbit, where Golum is trying to find it)...and the human form of Voldomort looks surprisingly like a Black Rider...just little things like that...if anyone can think of anymore familiarities please post them...

Darklighter
09-05-2002, 07:20 PM
Maybe a few *SPOILERS* here...

And what about the troll in Harry Potter (i.e., the cave troll in LOTR)...or the stone in Harry's pocket at the end, where Quirrell is trying to find it (i.e., the ring in Bilbo's pocket in the Hobbit, where Golum is trying to find it)...and the human form of Voldomort looks surprisingly like a Black Rider...just little things like that...if anyone can think of anymore familiarities please post them...

gorganfloss
09-05-2002, 09:02 PM
Is this poll even necesary?



LOTR

what a shocker:eek:

Redwing
09-06-2002, 03:24 AM
Originally posted by Darklighter
Maybe a few *SPOILERS* here...

And what about the troll in Harry Potter (i.e., the cave troll in LOTR)...or the stone in Harry's pocket at the end, where Quirrell is trying to find it (i.e., the ring in Bilbo's pocket in the Hobbit, where Golum is trying to find it)...and the human form of Voldomort looks surprisingly like a Black Rider...just little things like that...if anyone can think of anymore familiarities please post them...

The trolls were way different...and trolls aren't unique to LotR or HP...besides the HP troll was a "mountain troll" and it looked like it had come from humans while the cave troll looked like (similar to orcs) it had come from elves.

HP doesn't really remind me of LotR...more than say Star Wars of course but still I wouldn't compare them. I like em both. ^_^

Darth Groovy
09-06-2002, 03:44 AM
I don't feel bad being the only other person that voted for Harry Potter. I watched the film with much skeptisism, then when it was finished I caught my self playing it over again. It's not that I dislike LOTR, I enjoyed it too. Keep in mind I never read the books for either one, but LOTR had alot going on, and sometimes was difficult for me to follow. The thing is though is that these two films were designed for two completely different audiences in mind. Potter was made for kids, but adults can have fun watching it too. LOTR is not for kids at all, but I had a bit more fun watching Harry Potter for some reason, I wish his books had been out when I was little.:(

ZBomber
09-06-2002, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by Darth Groovy
I don't feel bad being the only other person that voted for Harry Potter. I watched the film with much skeptisism, then when it was finished I caught my self playing it over again. It's not that I dislike LOTR, I enjoyed it too. Keep in mind I never read the books for either one, but LOTR had alot going on, and sometimes was difficult for me to follow. The thing is though is that these two films were designed for two completely different audiences in mind. Potter was made for kids, but adults can have fun watching it too. LOTR is not for kids at all, but I had a bit more fun watching Harry Potter for some reason, I wish his books had been out when I was little.:(

Yeh, it was good, but I didn't really get it. Harry Potter was easy to understand, but uh example

"Wow! A troll! Lets go in the bathroom and get it!"

:D :p

Breton
09-06-2002, 05:20 PM
Actually I may understand that LOTR was a bit difficult to follow, because they had to have all of the main story in LOTR movie, but they left out much of the details

Did you know:

That it was 17 years between Bilbos party and Frodo leaving the Shire?

That Galdalf, Sauron and even the Balrog is of the same race?

That it was an elven lord named Glorfindel, and not Arwen, who saved Frodo from the Black Riders?

That Aragorn was about 80 years old at the time of the movie?

That Gollum was a former hobbit named Sméagol?

Clem
09-06-2002, 05:22 PM
i knew most of that yes

also that they missed out tom bombadill!

i liked him .... i hope (probably in vain) that hes in the special edition dvd

Agen
09-06-2002, 07:27 PM
1. y
2. y
3. y
4. n
5. y

that's prob since i read the book tho.

JandoFett1842
09-06-2002, 10:20 PM
LotR. No contest, Nuf said.

Lunatic Jedi
09-07-2002, 02:27 AM
I do hope this is a joke. LotR all the way. Harry Potter is so pretentious.

Darth Groovy
09-07-2002, 04:37 AM
Harry Potter reminds me of a children's book I read in about the second or third Grad called "A Wrinkle In Time" by Madeleine L'Engle. Lots of fantastic characters and plot twists, and held onto some very basic traditional values. I could be biased, but then again I enjoy alot of Disney films as well. If you ask me will I see The next LOTR movie, the answer is yes........hopefully on opening day. LOTR is difficult for me to follow, but by that same token it is the movie that makes me want to sit down and read the books some day. Back in 1993 they used to have Tolkein classes at ICC. This material has been around for a long time. I too saw the LOTR animated stunt from the 70's or 80's or whenever it was and thought it was gibberish. Maybe the next one will be even better. This time I will be sure to pass on the large soda too......grrrrrrrrr!

Zedar
09-07-2002, 12:10 PM
LotR of course!

Demolisher
09-07-2002, 03:05 PM
I like both movies the same actually. It's funny, my mom thought LotR had something to do with Harry Potter when we watched LotR; I was like "noooooooo, they're not related at all!":rolleyes:

leXX
09-07-2002, 03:29 PM
I do like Harry Potter but it doesn't even come close to LOTR.

ckcsaber
09-07-2002, 03:48 PM
Lord of the rings easily

thehomicidalegg
09-08-2002, 02:17 AM
Tolkien created the modern fantasy hype, thus spawning this genre of books, cartoons, comics, games, films etc. This probably contributed 2 the writing of Harry Potter. But saying that harry potter is based on LotR and drawing parallels between the two would be ridiculous imo.

Ratmjedi
09-08-2002, 02:39 AM
Well LOTR was a good movie. I only saw it once and got most of it but I am also confused on a lot of it too. Harry Potter in my opinion is a children's book and movie. I do not like it cause it is cheasy in my eyes. Thats just my $0.02
:lsduel: :duel:

Darklighter
09-08-2002, 06:25 AM
LOTR was a story written 50 or so years ago...in the process of transferring it from book to film, obviously a lot of material will be cut/missed out, whatever...it will be confusing to some extent (minor or major, depending on your interlectual capacity) for those who have not read the book...if you do not want to be puzzled by the events in the movie, I've said it before, and I'll say it again: read the book. All will be made clear in due course...

I guess that's my 2 pence :Dlol

lsd|Wee Bitch
09-08-2002, 07:44 AM
Actually a few things from LOTR were used in Harry Potter. Tolkein was the first person to give wizards the pointy hats. He started that. So technically, any wizard wearing a pointy hat in a story is taken from LOTR. There are other minor things, but that's all I can remember right now. And LOTR was definately better, both the movie and the book.

kamiclone
09-08-2002, 11:13 PM
The three LOTR movies will always beat the 7 or so Harry movies

LadyGaladriel
09-09-2002, 05:16 AM
No contest really. :)

<JOTD>Jedi Hunter
09-09-2002, 05:24 AM
LOTR by miles. Harry potter is for children. The poll is what do you prefer? I personally loved lotr. It brought back alot memories. My english teacher made us read this in Junior High. I dug it and to this day I love lotr. The books are much better though. Check em out zbomber. Read the hobbit first though.

rfa_vasquez
09-09-2002, 05:58 AM
whoa.im 1 of the 3 HP fans COME ON HARRY POTTER :P

thehomicidalegg
09-09-2002, 06:51 AM
harry potter's wizards have pointy hats doesn;t mean it was copied directly from lotr, but indirectly from the fantasy genre/environment lotr created. and thats the point im trying to make. LotR is THE text that started a whole new genre while harry potter was just something that was developed by following the flow of teh current caused by lotr, along with couple of hunderd other attempts.

grey_fox_001
09-09-2002, 12:34 PM
Are you mad? Theyve always been there. Ive seen ancient pics from 200 years or so ago of witches wearing pointy hats and so forth, it wasnt Tolkien.

Did you hear that he invented pointy mountains and rings too? Everything else just copied him. It HAD to be him afterall as it was in his book right? Right?!

Harry Potter is actualy quite unique and I think your all fools for judging it worse than LotR and saying that its childish based on the movie (which does NOT convey the book very well in terms of matureness or any of the other later ones) you need to read the two I mentioned earlier as well as read that post.

I am FED UP of people defending LotR like their first born and claiming that everything else is a rip off. WAKE UP. Most of its based on folk law and so Is HP, just accept it.

Agen
09-09-2002, 12:46 PM
HP obviously wins :rolleyes:

<JOTD>Jedi Hunter
09-09-2002, 12:56 PM
Lol yeah obviously.

C'jais
09-09-2002, 12:59 PM
I've only seen LOTR, so I can't speak for Harry Potter - Though I'm sure it'll be great for those who've read and enjoyed the books.

Agen
09-09-2002, 12:59 PM
must again.. cnat nooo. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: