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Double_S84
09-23-2002, 01:31 AM
Just wanted to let you people know. I havent done much so far so nothin really to post. Based off the Tyrion model if ya wanna know.

Sam
09-23-2002, 01:33 AM
I posted a pic of Squall from KH in the the wip cloud thread.

Double_S84
09-23-2002, 01:34 AM
I know and i am doin the kingdom hearts Squall soo good job man.

Double_S84
09-23-2002, 01:40 AM
Im gonna have to restart i was just practisin with gmax. Im gettin 3dsMax on tuesday. Sooooooo Ill start real work on it then.


I work alot, have school, and have a life (no offense to ne one, i dont mean it like that but dont know how else to word it)soooooo i wont be toooo fast........but not too slow.

Double_S84
09-23-2002, 02:27 AM
When i try to open the jedi trainer model usin the ghoul2 importer in milkshape. I get an error. My ? is where do i have to put the file in order for it to open correctly.

Darth Vigrid
09-23-2002, 02:36 AM
What kind of error, exactly?

Double_S84
09-23-2002, 03:14 AM
access violation at address 1000229E in module 'msmodellib.dll". Write of address 3a0d7e4c.

-Chrono_MOT-
09-23-2002, 09:22 AM
That's a corrupt library, my friend.

And then again, if your age doesn't matter, why are you posting it here...and posting that you have a life, etc.?

I find it personally insulting that you put '18 year old working on....' in your topic...considering it doesn't matter how old you are.

Psynex
09-23-2002, 11:25 AM
True, it doesn't matter what anyone's age is here. That is unless they're acting like your run of the mill trouble maker. But I'm not personally offended by the title...maybe a bit confused though.

Milkshape corruption = download new version of GLM importer. I'm pretty sure the latest version of milkshape works just fine. At least it does for me.

And don't sell yourself short with gmax. Anything you can do in 3DSMax you can do in gmax (at least for jedi knight 2 anyway).

Eldritch
09-23-2002, 12:46 PM
Keep at it, Double. I would love to see Squall in game... he's one of my favorite characters (minus his less than charming personality) from the whole FF series. The gunblade was just too bad ass.

-Anakin

morphius_doh
09-23-2002, 03:31 PM
Will you be doing a version of Squall with the likeness of the FFVIII game, i.e shorter hair, ect?

Double_S84
09-23-2002, 10:54 PM
Thanks for the help. I think ill just wait for the 3d3max tommorow.

Chrono im confused bout what you said. How can you be personally insulted by me sayin im 18 and it doesnt really matter ne way. When it wasnt even directed toward you. It wasnt meant to hurt ne one. It was a message for somone that calls me 12. So cheer up man!

I hope you like the squall when it is done.
i dont think im gonna submit it though. Im probably gonna send it to people. Dont like the idea of EVERYONE and thier grandmom usin my model.

Who knows though i might change my mind.

Im not a trouble maker either so ill say this.........

To Bleek, I was in a bad mood that day and i dont like people pickin on people. Even if you barely picked on him. Sorry so move on.


and.........To everyone else..

Your post count is not a measure of you intellegence age or ne thing else.

Double_S84
09-23-2002, 10:56 PM
Im just gonna do the kingdom hearts Squall. He looks alot cooler ne way.

bleek
09-23-2002, 10:58 PM
I didn't pick on anyone and perfer you not talk to me anymore seeing how you seem to make threads and post stuff directed at me...confusing everyone else. Thx.

Mest
09-23-2002, 11:10 PM
No offense but: "Boooooo, KH squall sucks. The FF8 version is way better." just thought i would put that in because i hate the KH version of squall.

-Chrono_MOT-
09-23-2002, 11:31 PM
The KH Squall and Cloud are both 100s of times cooler than their FF counterparts. Squall definitely looks more badass (especially since his gunblade actually fires).

Sam
09-23-2002, 11:41 PM
It hurts alot the first time you fight him.

Twisted Vertex
09-23-2002, 11:47 PM
?.........does it hurt?....how many times have you fight?......how much does it hurt? like a lot?

Sam
09-24-2002, 12:12 AM
Ive only fought him twice. Once alone and the other he had Yuffie with him in a tournament.

bleek
09-24-2002, 12:45 AM
I've been wanting to play Kingdom Hearts since it came out. Is it really really kewl? My bro took my PS2 with him to college and left me the Gamecube:( . Oh well Star Fox Adventures comes out soon.

Sam
09-24-2002, 03:42 AM
I don't about were you live but starfox come out tomarrow and about kindom hearts its not your average final fantasy game because of disney but I thought it was a good mix.



Edit: its pretty funny to see donald and goofy go up against Squall.

KMan
09-24-2002, 06:07 AM
Keep on topic you guys. This is not a chat room about how you are dooing in some game.

Double_S84
09-24-2002, 06:24 AM
Hahaha.True. I forget were not aloud to HAVE FUN somtimes. HEHE. Ill do my best to stay on topic SIR :D .

Eldritch
09-24-2002, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by Double_S84
Thanks for the help. I think ill just wait for the 3d3max tommorow.

Chrono im confused bout what you said. How can you be personally insulted by me sayin im 18 and it doesnt really matter ne way. When it wasnt even directed toward you. It wasnt meant to hurt ne one. It was a message for somone that calls me 12. So cheer up man!

I hope you like the squall when it is done.
i dont think im gonna submit it though. Im probably gonna send it to people. Dont like the idea of EVERYONE and thier grandmom usin my model.

Who knows though i might change my mind.

Im not a trouble maker either so ill say this.........

To Bleek, I was in a bad mood that day and i dont like people pickin on people. Even if you barely picked on him. Sorry so move on.


and.........To everyone else..

Your post count is not a measure of you intellegence age or ne thing else.

If you're not going to release it to the general public, why create a WIP thread for it? To brag about it? "Look, i've got a Squall model but it's mine so you can't use it!" Seems a little pointless to me.

And as far as your "to everyone else" comment... I don't know who you've been arguing with, but you're taking things a little too far. There's no need to send a message like that to people that haven't said or done anything to you. Most people on this forum are friendly, intelligent people who are not all trying to make you feel bad for your age or your post count or whatever else it is that you obviously are self-conscious about (otherwise you wouldn't draw attention to it).

And like KMan said, if you want to talk about StarFox or Kingdom Hearts or whatever, don't do it in this forum, and definitely not in this thread.

-Anakin

-Chrono_MOT-
09-24-2002, 03:28 PM
Anakin, I'm impressed with your ability to argue here ^_^.

In response though, I was pointing out your inability to be self-conscious about you describing your age.

"By the way: I'm 18."

If you really were 18, it wouldn't matter if someone calls you 12. People call me 12, and I say I'm 21. But I don't go around saying it every 5 minutes like I have something to prove. You don't have anything to prove here. If you're 18, great. If you're not, so what?

There are plenty of good modelers who aren't 18.

As for your Squall model, good luck on starting it from SCRATCH, as I hate models that are modified from others (even though you won't even be releasing it, so why bother having a topic).

As for the game, some real good models to make for JK2 would be Cloud, Squall, and anyone else that looks badass ^_^.

Xyphox
09-24-2002, 09:05 PM
Hey guys, I'm sixteen, (I don't know why we're posting our age, I just thought I'd continue the tradition) I think KH Squall (Leon) looks cooler (heh, Frieza's brother) than FFVIII Squall. I got KH but I'm not allowed to play it till Friday cuz I'm kinda in trouble. I can't wait it's gonna be sweet.

bleek
09-24-2002, 11:34 PM
Why would you want a full version of milkshape? You can d/l the full version of 3d Studio Max from Kazaa.

Twisted Vertex
09-24-2002, 11:45 PM
this thread is a ticking time bomb.......4. The posting of links to sites that contain illegal material (ie where to get illegal MP3s, warez, etc.) is prohibited.

Twisted Vertex
09-25-2002, 12:12 AM
You can just edit the root.xsi.....What are you trying to do? Like trying to rip a hand.....or something?

Twisted Vertex
09-25-2002, 12:20 AM
Just import the root.xsi . However your better off creating your own character. Doesn't have to go in game, It will be just a tester so you can get the feel of the workflow. Do like a cartoon project or something. It helps out a lot.

frendon
09-25-2002, 12:22 AM
ok thanks i'll try that

Double_S84
09-25-2002, 01:46 AM
It is not from scratch so i geuss you hate it huh chrono?HEHE

Please dont ruin my thread with piracy.....PLEASE

Jedi anakin s. Your right. I think i will release it. But im kinda sceptical bout it. It is my first model. You know. So i dont wann get laughed at.

Your right bout the (to everybody else comment). i shoulda said to whom this may concern.

Ill probably release it but i need permision first. From whoever made the tyrion model. I decided to try it with that. So untilll or unless i get permision its not gonna be released at all.

If you know who i need to talk to tell me. PLease.

Btw does ne one have a site i can send pics of this wip to and post em here?

Double_S84
09-25-2002, 04:56 AM
People i have enough done that i can post pics for it.

I need somone to lend me web space for a pic.

Ne one feel like seein it and dont have a Web site that can help me out just email me at doubles84@aol.com and ill send it to ya.

liiL Keep on rockin on!!!!!!!!!!!

-Chrono_MOT-
09-25-2002, 09:15 AM
...So now you're doing the same thing as Saik Huat? Stealing pieces from other people's models? I sincerely doubt the creators of the Tyrion model will give you permission to alter it in any way.

And KMan doesn't need to delete these posts. I'm not going off the deep end...


Not yet.

frendon
09-25-2002, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by Double_S84
KMAN is there ne way you can delete those posts. Please dont delete this thread.:eek:

Double_S84 i already deleted my posts about you know what, sorry for that i don't want to get you in trouble

morphius_doh
09-25-2002, 12:20 PM
Can we all just cease the hostility, it's getting out of hand!

Double_S84
09-25-2002, 01:21 PM
I have permission from absath. This project is on the way. Looks good so far and midget yoda is gonna post some pics for me. I allready sent them to him.

Ill keep ya posted..

Double_S84
09-25-2002, 01:24 PM
What are you talkin about. Your last post is ridiculous. Chill out.

Stop tryin to be he man. If you dont like altering models then dont do it or come here.

If you dont like how i altered the model then tell me and ill accept the crits and try to fix it. I dont think i need to tell you how this forum works do i?

-Chrono_MOT-
09-25-2002, 01:30 PM
Being the man? I am who I always have been. It's time you accept that and move on o_0.

I myself am a modeler, so it makes me an authority on the subject compared to you, who isn't doing a thing on this model from scratch.

My posts are far from ridiculous - they are just rational. I refer you to what Toonces said to the last person to rip other people's work: if you were to post this on polycount you would be laughed off the forums. The only reason why people care here is because they (apart from the modelers themselves) are just desperate people who want the model and don't care how it is done. The modeling community itself cares about the methods AND originality.

Eldritch
09-25-2002, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by Double_S84
It is not from scratch so i geuss you hate it huh chrono?HEHE

Please dont ruin my thread with piracy.....PLEASE

Jedi anakin s. Your right. I think i will release it. But im kinda sceptical bout it. It is my first model. You know. So i dont wann get laughed at.

Your right bout the (to everybody else comment). i shoulda said to whom this may concern.

Ill probably release it but i need permision first. From whoever made the tyrion model. I decided to try it with that. So untilll or unless i get permision its not gonna be released at all.

If you know who i need to talk to tell me. PLease.

Btw does ne one have a site i can send pics of this wip to and post em here?

I'm glad you agree with me. I don't understand why you're not doing the model from scratch (perhaps you're a bit daunted by the task of building around a skeleton, or creating caps and such for it) as it's really the only way to learn how to model. In my experience, the models that have been created by modifying other models (cough cough SAIK HUAT cough cough) have been of lesser quality, because you're having to deal with someone elses way of doing something. But, if its the way you want to go, I can't argue with you. What I will say is that you're not *really* modeling, you're just modifying. But I digress.
On the subject of where you can post these pics, as I understand it, AOL gives you up to 12 MB of space to create a website FREE of charge. If you know html, you can build your own website there fairly easily. If you don't, you could always ask me nicely and I can help you out. ;)

-Anakin

p.s. - can't wait to see the wip pics

Double_S84
09-25-2002, 03:09 PM
Sorry but like i said im new at this. Very new i didnt even know the difference between modelin and modifyin for gods sake. HEHE.

There is a big difference between me and thet Saik Huat guy. Im not a thief. I got permission. So please dont compare me to him.

I dont have aol ne more i have a cable modem. HEHE yea thats right im dlin large now.:D So anakin can i send you atleast 2 pics so you can post em up here? It may only be a modification but it is GOOOOOOOOOD. Hope to here from everybody soon.


Keep on rockin on IiiL

Midgit Yoda
09-25-2002, 06:00 PM
I hosted the files on my site (which I am almost ready to buy a REAL server for). Here are the pictures, hosted by Red Wall Studios.
Squall001 (http://redwallstudios.netfirms.com/models/squall/images/squall.jpg)
Squall002 (http://redwallstudios.netfirms.com/models/squall/images/squall2.jpg)

Eldritch
09-25-2002, 07:06 PM
Not bad, not bad... would like to see some more reference pics of Squall from KH to see if you're missing anything. I'll go look for some. In the meantime, nice work!

-Anakin

-Chrono_MOT-
09-25-2002, 07:45 PM
....while it is still a ripped model, it is looking rather nice so far.

What you want to do is make sure he has the two belts. Yes, you will have to model them yourself, but this will help you learn.

other things you don't want to forget - his wrist guards. He doesn't wear puffy gloves so lose them.

Xyphox
09-25-2002, 07:46 PM
Hey, that's pretty nice. Good luck on finishing it and finding a skinner. I'm a big ff fan, so I'l dload it as soon as you release it.

Double_S84
09-25-2002, 09:51 PM
Yea if you can tell by the pic i am making the wrist things level with the rest of the arm (im workin on the right arm). Kinda hard though. And i deffinitly havent forgot bout that cool ass belt.

I am gonna let my friend do the skinnin. So he can practice too ya know. His name is Lee Wright. I do not know if he knows how to do that wrappin stuff. I dont either. Haha were both newbs.

Im tryin really hard though..

-Chrono_MOT-
09-25-2002, 10:00 PM
Well I'll make a deal with you. If this ends up looking EXACTLY like Squall does in KH, I will model his gunblade for you.

Double_S84
09-25-2002, 10:02 PM
Chrono i said it before and ill say it again. Ill try my best. I really have my heart in this. But i dont think ill get it EXACTLY.

Obi-Wan X
09-25-2002, 10:09 PM
I must say, all this talk of KH Cloud and KH Squall has really got me up and about as far as the forums go. I came into this topic seeing as though it had a nice amount of hits and views, and was quickly saddened to see that the author seemingly was going to pull a " yea I can do this and that, but I might not release it...no pics yet...I really dont have any skills " sort of thing. Although
I was completly stunned when I saw the pics.

For a modified model for a new modeler, its really looking quite nice. Kudos to you.

*Bows*
~ Obi-Wan

Double_S84
09-26-2002, 07:03 PM
I finished the belt thingys.
Im lookin to post a new pic or three. I REALLY wanna know what you all tthink of em. So anakin im askin you nice.:D

Double_S84
09-26-2002, 09:45 PM
The kingly MIDGET YODA has 3 new pics and he will post em tommorow.

Also he will do the back breakin labor of gettin this model in game.

Chrono good news for you. I think im gonna have to model him some new arms. Argh woooooooo is me.''


liiL keep on rockin on.

PS. Post stuff people. I shouldnt have to bump so much

Double_S84
09-27-2002, 06:58 AM
:( :( :( :( :( :( :( Were are you people???????? Post for ozzies sake. :D

Obi-Wan X
09-27-2002, 06:49 PM
Believe me man, we're all here waitin. We're just lookin forward to some pics to give some better feedback thats all :>. Goodwork so far, were all really lookin forward to it. *Bows*
~ Obi-Wan

Double_S84
09-27-2002, 07:33 PM
I fixed the gloves. Meaning he now longer has huge guantlets. Hopefully ill get a few pics to midget yoda before he posts the new ones.

PS: Old navy is corny.

Midgit Yoda
09-28-2002, 02:27 AM
Here is the latest screen that I am hosting for Double_s84.
Squall Image (http://redwallstudios.netfirms.com/models/squall/images/squall6.jpg)

Sam
09-28-2002, 04:46 AM
Wow it looks pretty good. the belts look good but I think there should be more I'm not sure though.

Double_S84
09-28-2002, 05:54 AM
I need more info to work from then that. How about some pics of squall to work from as many as you can find.

Would be a big help.

Eldritch
09-29-2002, 12:22 AM
I'm looking for pics, Double. However, I can't believe you started the project without a good amount of reference pics. There's an old saying... "Proper planning prevents poor performance." ;)

I will continue to look for pics, but don't depend on others for assistance - after all, this is *your* project.

-Anakin

Double_S84
09-29-2002, 01:49 AM
Good point anakin but i had a few movies to watch of him. I WOuld just like some still frames or somthin.

Sam
09-29-2002, 10:37 PM
Heres a pic of him. Ill look for a better onehttp://mediaviewer.ign.com/ignMediaPage.jsp?media_id=1485531&object_id=16467&channel_id=70&page_title=Kingdom+Hearts&adString=network%3Dign%26site%3Dps2viewer&return_url=http%3A%2F%2Fps2.ign.com%2Fobjects%2F01 6%2F016467.html

Sam
10-01-2002, 08:19 PM
*bump* It almost was on the second page.

Midgit Yoda
10-01-2002, 09:37 PM
***BUMP*** Just send more screens my way Double and I'll post em.

Double_S84
10-01-2002, 11:53 PM
Sorry ive been away people. But no use in postin ne new pics. Im workiin on the uv wrappin thingy. I have no idea were to start sooooooo im lookin for some tuts. If you have one or know were one is please let me know.

Chrono is it up to you standards? Gonna make the gun blade?

Xyphox
10-02-2002, 12:59 AM
Hey guys, sorry I've been gone I've been playing KH. But you don't need ref pics. All you do is go into Kingdom Hearts, press start to go to the menu, then go to journal, then to characters, then characters 1, then to Leon, then press triangle, then you will get a full view of him, you can use the right analog stick to rotate him however you want, so you can see every possible angle!

Sam
10-02-2002, 03:19 AM
Yea too bad you can't take pics and transfer them to the pc somehow.

Billyz124
10-02-2002, 07:59 AM
GJ Double! looks awesome. Leon is one of my favorites from KH, Next too Cloud and Sora.

Double_S84
10-03-2002, 03:59 AM
UHhhhh bump............NE one got an answer to my ?

Twisted Vertex
10-03-2002, 10:02 AM
what modeling program are you using. I might be able to get you started with UVW mapping.

morphius_doh
10-03-2002, 12:25 PM
WOW! That screenshot of the KH Squall in the game does look much better than the one in FFVIII! It's too bad that it's not out for us PC users.

Midgit Yoda
10-03-2002, 12:54 PM
I'm pretty sure he's using Gmax

Twisted Vertex
10-03-2002, 12:59 PM
Here i can get you a quick start.

Here is a typical modifier stack

Unwrap
editable mesh
uvw map
mesh select
uvw map
mesh select
editable mesh

Now you editable mesh is baiscially what you worked with when move poly's and verts around. The mesh select is to seperate a bunch of polys. The you add a Planar uvw map. I would say about 200*200. This will ensure that "everything" will fit in the unwrap window. Then repeat this process.

The new editable mesh is laid down so you don't have to collapse the stack. Then in the unwrap window, everything will magically appear.


after each modifer you can add a unwrap modifer, to adjust each level as you go. Which can be quite benefical for most areas.

Sam
10-04-2002, 12:49 AM
Updates????

Double_S84
10-04-2002, 08:39 AM
Sam im workin on gettin him in game so the next update you see is gonna be a link for the skin or a link for the download.

Thanks vertex but i dont have a clue what you said. Im not to keen on the modeling lingo. If ya catch my meaning.

I need a link to t tutorial.

Twisted Vertex
10-04-2002, 10:00 AM
There is no one tutorial that will fully example the uv mapping process. If you type in the words "UVW MAX" you probably get some good documentation. I think you might wanna try a search at 3dbuzz.com

I will try to example this process a bit further for you. In max and gmax what ever you apply to your model gets thrown to a modifier stack. Your first modifier will probably be editable mesh. You'll have a modifier pull down. The only modifiers you'll need are the UVW map modifier, Unwrap and Edit mesh.

Lets say your working on a torso. Select all the front of the torso. Grab a UVW map modifier, and set a planar map. I like to use dimensions of 200*200, casue you gives you a lot of room to work with. Apply a unwrap modifier. Now you have the option to edit. You'll be in a new floating window, I usually like to scale the mesh up just a bit.

Now you repeat the process one more time. Then apply an edit mesh. Then a UVW unwrap, this will bring everything togther similar to collapsing your stack.

A great tutorial is the wolfsblade tut. I think the url is www.wolfsblade.com

Double_S84
10-05-2002, 06:27 PM
Just lettin everyone know im still alive and the model is kickin. HEHE. No but really im havin program problems. Milkshaoe expires in two days and gmax cant ghet ne moodels into it. Both my 3dsmax 4 and 5 have errors when i try to install em. So this could take awhile. Wish me luck:confused:

-Chrono_MOT-
10-05-2002, 08:12 PM
Sorry about that. Yes, he is looking quite good. I'd like to give him a primitive skin before I say anymore though. Get him in-game and working and then we'll talk Gunblades. Not a bad job. ^_^

Double_S84
10-08-2002, 03:44 AM
Thanks chrono. Right now ill tell you were the model stands.

In Moria (my pc) surrounded by Balrogs (my ignorance when it comes to uv whater mappin) and no hope of gettin out to the loveley land of Lothlorien (your pcs). Unless that is that he can be saved by Gandalf(twisted vertix) who has great powers (knowledge about such things i dont) and can use then to help the model (help me).

HEHE i dropped him a pm i hope he gets back to me soon because im gettin all outdoorsy.

Well ne ways that is were this model stands.

FOR NOW MWAAAHAHAHHAA..................HAHA.........HA..he .

ummmmmm untill then people. ROCK ONNNNNNN

Twisted Vertex
10-08-2002, 09:36 AM
Yeah just kick the file in 3ds format to midget yoda. He'll convert it to max and kick it to me. Getting it ingame is not my specialty...points to sephiroth. However I will cap and mapp it.

Midgit Yoda
10-08-2002, 01:02 PM
I'm pretty good at Gettin em to work properly in game (points opposite of Sephiroth, to Tom Servo and Gumby). Once I get it back from Musashi, I'll Weight it and throw it through assimilate.

Twisted Vertex
10-08-2002, 01:36 PM
I might even take a small stab at skinning. I am at photoshop class right now, and am getting pretyy confident. Yeah most diffently I'll shoot it to midget for him to finish off the process.

XylanKasshu00
10-08-2002, 10:56 PM
That is looking awesome, hopefully you guys can get a FF skin pack together. That would be awesome along with the weapons. Squall is looking pretty darn good, and Chrono good luck with the gun blade if you do it, I would think it would be rather tricky. But good luck, hope to see it out soon. :) Vincent model would be sweet too if anyone is interested. May the skins outside the Star Wars Universe prosper! :D

-Chrono_MOT-
10-08-2002, 11:48 PM
eh? Gunblade's a piece of cake. Which one do you guys want, the Lionheart or the standard?

Double_S84
10-08-2002, 11:55 PM
STANDARD is waaaaaay cooler. The other just seems way to unrealistic. But then again this ifs for jk2 so this might be a tough choice for people to make .

Why dont we have a poll to see which people would rather see.

Xyphox
10-09-2002, 10:13 PM
I second that, the first gunblade he had was called the "Revolver" I think it looks more realistic than the Lionheart. It looks like something that could actually be real, the Lionheart doesn't.

Double_S84
10-10-2002, 12:01 AM
How do i start one of those threads that looks like a poll?

superdude201
10-14-2002, 04:40 PM
Hey double i think i talked to you on flimser the other day. BTW ur edited model looks cool great modeling. I learning but aint that good at it :)

Eldritch
10-14-2002, 05:40 PM
And how about an update? Because right now this thread is stagnating...

-Anakin

Double_S84
10-14-2002, 06:20 PM
That is all im doin on the model. Im havin Mig yoda and Twisted vertix help me out on gettin it in game. then i am gonna have it skinned.

PS.........thanks dude im glad you like it.

Eldritch
10-14-2002, 06:30 PM
Have you done the UV mapping yet? Because if you have, you could have someone be working on the skin *while* they're getting it in game, so it doesn't hold up the show.

-Anakin

Double_S84
10-15-2002, 01:13 AM
Yea ummm vertix said he would uv mapp and mig toda will get it in game. So i cant get it skinned yet.

gt r?
10-15-2002, 11:27 PM
Wow!this model is getting very cool :)

nice job Double_S84 keep up the good work!!

Now all we need is a gunblade :D

Sorry i didn't check the other pages.

Eldritch
10-16-2002, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by Evil

Now all we need is a gunblade :D

As stated *several* times earlier in this thread, the gunblade model was offered to be made by Chrono...

-Anakin

DrakkenVII
10-16-2002, 07:21 PM
Awesome job man!
I havent played KH yet but I first thought that was laguna in the
trailer (also a very kickin' character.) If you need help skinning him I would love to give you a hand!

Think you could mebbe whip up a pair of the FFVIII Squall and Seifer?

Btw. If you do end up getting somoene to modela gunblade pack for the lightsaber you can probly make it color change like the default lightsabers. Lionheart was cool but yea the default was better. Its all about the Engraved Griever XD

morphius_doh
10-16-2002, 07:38 PM
Can we have at least one updated screenshot before it gets released, just to see what it's actually coming to look like, please?

DrakkenVII
10-16-2002, 09:39 PM
Whoa am I understanding this right?!
This models coming out soon?!
DUDE YOU KICK MONSTER @$$!!
Are you gonna submit it to any of the jediknightii.net sites of jk2files.com?

more importantly when? This model is god!

Double_S84
10-17-2002, 01:35 AM
Thanks Drakken. But if you read above (or back for that matter im at three pages now hehe) youll find the answers to all the >?s any of you might have.

Mig Yoda man were are you??

Help me Twisted Vertix, you are my only hope.

Sam
10-19-2002, 05:20 PM
So if your not going to give us updates can you tell us how much % is done.

PalnGipanji
10-19-2002, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by $am
So if your not going to give us updates can you tell us how much % is done.

Is English beyond comprehension? He can't do anything more with the model... he said so only a few posts up, so why hound him about updates. Percents, that's noteworthy, but there are better ways of asking for it.:rolleyes:

Sam
10-19-2002, 06:58 PM
I was directing that towards the skin and the gunblade.

Xyphox
10-23-2002, 12:07 AM
Um, Yo! I don't think there's anything wrong with asking the percentage completed with a model. And also, $am has a few more posts than you, so don't bug him. (I know this post is a few days late, but oh well) Sorry, it's been so long since I posted. I had to go woop KH by getting all my guy to level 100 and beat Sephiroth using without any items and get the ultima weapon. Bye, off to beat Final Fantasy Tactics again. I've been trying all day to steal the Gengi items from that one guy. . . here I go babbeling on and on again, sorry. See ya all in a while.

superdude201
10-23-2002, 08:17 AM
Originally posted by Double_S84
How do i start one of those threads that looks like a poll?

I thinmk when u create a thread and written what u want to say in your post to make a poll you need to check one of the boxes in the options catergory

MysticSpade
10-23-2002, 08:46 AM
i hate to get technical but i love FF games and i might get a screw you on this post but if you're makin Squall from KH wouldn't his name be Leon. cuz that is the dudes name in KH. i know there's a back story to why it's this way Xyphox you'd know you beat the game. but all i know is his name's Leon. if someone'd let me in on the secret i'd appreciate it. also Xyphox i sent you a PM.

-Chrono_MOT-
10-23-2002, 09:18 AM
His name is Squall. Yuffie calls him Squall in the very beginning. However, Squall corrects and requests she call him Leon.

Backstory *SPOILERS*:


Years ago in Hollow Bastion Aerith, Cloud, Ansem, Squall, Yuffie, and other Final Fantasy characters (that were either killed or absorbed into the darkness, which explains their absence) all lived together in harmony. Ansem discovered the Heartless and decided to try an obtain their power. When the first wave appeared (the real heartless, not the fake ones you fight at first), Squall was one of the first to try and protect his friends, alongside Cloud and the remaining survivors. He wasn't beaten easily, but just because he lost...he retreated to Traverse Town. Being ashamed that someone might recognize him as "Squall Leonheart, the loser who couldn't defeat the heartless" he tells everyone his name is Leon.

So, both names are correct.

MysticSpade
10-23-2002, 10:45 AM
thx Chrono for the info cuz i was conused as can be with that. but didn't Squall have brown hair not black or did he die it as well. but i appreciate the correction. i'm buyin the game when i gets my PS2 sometime this week. i just wanna fight Sephiroth in the colloseum. i love sephiroth. he's a bad mofo.

-Chrono_MOT-
10-23-2002, 01:51 PM
No, Squall's hair is brown. Everyone seems to think that his hair is a different color in KH, but it's not. Just more cartoonish.

MysticSpade
10-23-2002, 04:48 PM
he still looks cool as hell man so i don't mind. but i can understand the cartoonish feel.

Double_S84
10-24-2002, 01:41 AM
I just got a ps2. Soo i will be gettin kingdom hearts and im gonna edit Squall a little just to make it a little more like him. Since ill have the game next to my pc.

Double_S84
10-29-2002, 06:50 AM
BUMP

-Chrono_MOT-
10-29-2002, 09:15 AM
If my Chrono and Cloud models work out (god-willing, I've never modeled before) I will definitely be starting on a Squall and Magus ^_^.

Stay tuned.

raiden668
10-29-2002, 04:05 PM
mm, Chrono, how long would it take you to model Seifer's Gunblade, Hyperion?

-Chrono_MOT-
10-29-2002, 07:03 PM
maybe a few days if I had reference pictures on it.

Double_S84
11-05-2002, 12:50 AM
bump

ZASH
11-05-2002, 11:40 AM
Hmmm, Chrono is making a Cloud Model huh? What happened to the other one? Double, Have you gotten Squall UVMapped yet?

Eldritch
11-05-2002, 12:47 PM
Nah, I think Double let the project die. I haven't seen him around for a while.

superdude201
11-05-2002, 03:30 PM
NOOo!!! dont let it die. I aint a big ff fan i going to try games though but your model looks great and if your really desparate i'll give it a shot at uv mapping it for you

Double_S84
11-07-2002, 01:10 AM
Nope aint dead. Ive just been bussy with my clan DoH.
Well if you wanna try go ahead and give me your email ill send away. Whoever wants to finish it go for it. I am done nothin more i can do.

Eldritch
11-07-2002, 01:54 AM
Originally posted by Double_S84
Nope aint dead. Ive just been bussy with my clan DoH.
Well if you wanna try go ahead and give me your email ill send away. Whoever wants to finish it go for it. I am done nothin more i can do.

This begs the question - why would you start a model if you weren't planning on doing whatever you could to see it gets out?

I've seen more models go the way of the dodo because the modelers just drop the project and go, "Well, there's nothing else I can do."

Double_S84
11-07-2002, 02:08 AM
I was completly new when startin it so i didnt know that was involved in gettin it released!!!! When you try to uv mapp that head and do it right ill take you seriously.

Dude i started like a week or two after you in this forum why do you have so many posts????:eek:

Good God:Bad Satan Mwahahahahha.......ha

Eldritch
11-07-2002, 10:40 AM
Originally posted by Double_S84
I was completly new when startin it so i didnt know that was involved in gettin it released!!!! When you try to uv mapp that head and do it right ill take you seriously.

Dude i started like a day or two after you in this forum why do you have so many posts????:eek:

Good God:Bad Satan Mwahahahahha.......ha

1) I joined the forum two (2) weeks before you showed up, NOT one or two days.

2) I shouldn't have to try and UVMap the head. As the modeler, that should be your job, as it's your model.

Double_S84
11-08-2002, 01:05 AM
1: Please dont be so anal bout when you started. I mean god its a forum.

2: No it is absaths model. I was merely editing it.

BTW: It seems you werent payin to much attention before you posted. The model is in milkshape. That means it will be hard or near imposible for me to get it to 3ds max. Which i also dont have. So it is not just the uv mappin. Problems that i doubt the all knowing Jedi anakin s Probably couldnt solve himself. So in closing please withdraw your teeth from my P3nnis

Thanx

Eldritch
11-08-2002, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by Double_S84
1: Please dont be so anal bout when you started. I mean god its a forum.

2: No it is absaths model. I was merely editing it.

BTW: It seems you werent payin to much attention before you posted. The model is in milkshape. That means it will be hard or near imposible for me to get it to 3ds max. Which i also dont have. So it is not just the uv mappin. Problems that i doubt the all knowing Jedi anakin s Probably couldnt solve himself. So in closing please withdraw your teeth from my P3nnis

Thanx

1. You were the one who brought up the join date. I was only correcting you, because you were off by about 2 weeks.

2. It is Absath's model, but it's your project.

BTW : I don't understand why you would model (or edit) something in Milkshape knowing you couldn't get it to 3ds Max. And I don't have to solve problems like that - I would just avoid them by thinking it through and using my head before starting a model that would most likely never make it to the game.
And so in closing, keep your insults to yourself. There's no need to show your age (which you obviously are self-conscious about - just look at the title of your thread) and be immature.

-Chrono_MOT-
11-08-2002, 01:38 PM
umm...if you have milkshape, you should be able to export it to a format 3ds can read.

KMan
11-08-2002, 04:46 PM
Yeah, like the .3ds file format. HINT HINT!

Double_S84
11-08-2002, 09:01 PM
I had no idea there would be a problem with milk shape when i started.

Eldritch
11-08-2002, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by Double_S84
I had no idea there would be a problem with milk shape when i started.

Well according to KMan there's a solution.

Double_S84
11-09-2002, 12:17 AM
I DO NOT HAVE 3D STUDIO MAX #!!!!!!!!!!!!

-Chrono_MOT-
11-09-2002, 12:29 AM
But most of the modelers here do. HINT HINT.

Eldritch
11-09-2002, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by -Chrono_MOT-
But most of the modelers here do. HINT HINT.

By god you're a tad thick, Double. HINT HINT means export it from Milkshape in a format 3Ds Max can use (like .3ds) and give it to someone to finish.

Double_S84
11-10-2002, 04:05 AM
I would but my milk shape expired like a month ago. So i cant save ne thing. But i did however tell a friend about it and hopefully he will export it for me. Then send it back.

Just ttellin yas so you know that it didnt die just bein put into other hands. :rolleyes:

-Chrono_MOT-
11-10-2002, 11:48 AM
And you couldn't fork out $20, why? You realize that some people on here could export it out to 3DS using Milkshape ALOT faster than your "friend" probably could?

I'm thinking that this model is not only dead, but is probably not coming back. ^_^

DrakkenVII
11-10-2002, 04:25 PM
holy s***@!

Jump on the godamn bandwagon will ya?
The guy said he was new to modeling a while ago and now your all bashing him for not knowing how to export it to 3ds?
Who in all honsty cares?

And you couldn't fork out $20, why?

(I wouldn't pay $20 for a crappy program like milkshape when I could get 3dsmax off my brother.)

You realize that some people on here could export it out to 3DS using Milkshape ALOT faster than your "friend" probably could?
(This is where the 'trust' issue comes into play.. What garauntee does he have that once he sends you the models you dont just take all the credit for it? Imperial Guard anyone?)

Give the guy a break already. He's trying hes done all he can instead of getting on his case offer him suggestions.
I know you all mean well with the export to 3ds but try to be a little more tactful ok?

Double send me the f***ing model I have max I'll finish it up myself if i have to..

As for dead models..

Hows Samus coming Kman? XD

-Chrono_MOT-
11-10-2002, 09:05 PM
Well, I'll only answer one of your pathetic questions. As far as trust goes, there isn't one modeler here who would steal other people's work. Not that I would recommend him to, anyway. Saik Huat is the person you speak of, who cut and pasted parts of models without permission. That stuff is severely frowned upon here...and the only people who are accepting of it are the damned n00bs who cry "OMG this model r0xx0rs I have 2 have it!"
because they can't do it their damn selves.

Toonces, KMan, Jolts, and many others would NOT steal someone else's work. We've all helped each other get models working at one point or another, so a miniscule model like this wouldn't be worth their time "claiming as their own". We're artists, not greedy bastards.

Sephiroth CR
11-10-2002, 10:49 PM
Anyone here know if Twisted Vertex is still workin on Sephiroth?

Eldritch
11-11-2002, 02:01 AM
If he is he hasn't posted anything in quite a while.

Double_S84
11-11-2002, 02:14 AM
Drakken i will send you the model just need your email. Thanx for tryin to stick up for me but it doesnt really bother me and arguin is kinda fun. But i didnt have my friend (WHO IS A MEMBER OF THESE FORUMS:) to help me get it exported yet. So it is still in the milkshape format.
Hit me back and tell me if that is a prob. BTW the mosdeling is done just need to get the uv crap done, put him in game a skin him ne one could do that for it i dont mind.

Lullin
11-15-2002, 02:02 AM
hey Double_S84, How did you get started on the model? I'm trying to learn how to use gmax and its confusing me.

nucular_jedi_14
11-25-2002, 12:22 PM
and hey why not work on zidane when u get done. I mean the tail might be hard 2 get but it would be worth it

Dark Panther
12-09-2002, 06:55 PM
I (kinda, look at the bottom) made 2 beta gunblade models for JK2. They are the flamesaber gunblades from FF8, and I, like other people here, don't have 3ds, but I do have milkshape. Double S84, if you want to take a look at them, just ask and I'll send them. If you like 'em, relay them to another modeler, who can skin it and finish it. Yeah, OH, also, I could make one of them take the place of the bryar and fire as well.

*note*- I did not actually model them myself, and do not take full credit for making them. I simply had the ingenious idea to merge a GUN, and a swordBLADE, hence GUNBLADE.so don't ride my @ss about not modeling it myself, you all want a gunblade, I got one for ya. BOOYA!....ehh yeah.

Dark Panther
12-09-2002, 06:58 PM
I forgot, even though I didn't create the models, could I still have credit when/if you guys release it?

SpYzEr
12-09-2002, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by Dark Panther
I forgot, even though I didn't create the models, could I still have credit when/if you guys release it?

And why would you get credit? You have to either model or skin or UV Map or something like that to the model to get credit...

Dark Panther
12-09-2002, 08:10 PM
Shut the hell up! You know why I should get credit? I should get credit for a temp fix for whiny people like you, who want to request everything they can think of, and want to get it when they request it. Hey @ss, did you ever think that modelers could use this for inspiration? Did you ever think that it could buy them time to make an actual reproduction of a gunblade? I know I'm not the best modeler, I know that I just started, I know that the modelers who made the gun and the sword put a lot of effort into them and deserve credit, yeah I know that. But what you seemed to have missed is that I just want credit for assembling the prototype. You just watch yourself @ss, before you find yourself taking a bite out of a $hit sandwhich that you can't swallow. @ss.

Hellfire Jedi
12-09-2002, 08:27 PM
Listen little ****er Spyzer doesn't derserve that and secondly u little ****head no one even said they wanted ur peice of **** i could even do that so next time u wanna call my m8 a ass think again. Also Spyzer doesn't eat **** sandwhiches little ****er. You watch ur self to nice people. You got 4 posts and small time members insulting bigger better people don't deserve little kids to ball on them for this. Next time u wanna post something that rude a admin or mod will be informed. I am sorry if i cussed a bit too much but i do not take kindly to little kids insulting my m8. All Spyzer did was say a subjestion and u ****ing be a dick about it. Never.... NEVER post about my m8 and a clanmate because he said something a little cunstrucktive. No one deserves to be treated like that.
Go hang out with Stern0 and Taigay im sure they will love ur flamming ass. Sorry for this knasty post i fully meant to insult him. Not anyone else if it did im greatly sorry but on the other hand greatly pissed.

Hellfire

P.S. Spyzer don't post near this little titty u wanna talk just PM it to me.

-Chrono_MOT-
12-10-2002, 09:15 AM
Congratulations Panther. Way to isolate yourself from the more respectable modelers in the community. I was going to offer to UV map and finish the model for you, but now I'm not. Happy? Good.

Dark Panther
12-10-2002, 05:01 PM
All of you need to shut the fck up! Hellfire, you have no buisness tangling with me, and chrono, fck you! Chrono, I didn't ask for your help, and if you think you are the only mappers and skinners out there, you are saddly mistaken. Hellfire, the only reason I don't have as many posts as you, is because I have a life. I just got here. You don't even know what my gunblade looks like, how can you judge it? It's people like you that fck up our society. You and your "m8" can go @ss rape eachother for all I care. You all wanna fck with me? Get your @ss to game winners, we'll let a C&CW war settle this. Oh, and Spyzer, do you ever actually fend for yourself, or does your boyfriend always do it for you?

Hellfire Jedi
12-10-2002, 05:46 PM
Thats it. I will try my hardest to make sure thats your last post. There didn't have to be a flame war but you.... You assed up Spyzer and crono and me for no reason. Crono, Spyzer what do u say lets get this lamer outta the forums.

Hellfire
P.S. I don't think this thread belongs here anymore because it kinda died and is becoming a flame war.

El Sitherino
12-10-2002, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by Dark Panther
All of you need to shut the fck up! Hellfire, you have no buisness tangling with me, and chrono, fck you! Chrono, I didn't ask for your help, and if you think you are the only mappers and skinners out there, you are saddly mistaken. Hellfire, the only reason I don't have as many posts as you, is because I have a life. I just got here. You don't even know what my gunblade looks like, how can you judge it? It's people like you that fck up our society. You and your "m8" can go @ss rape eachother for all I care. You all wanna fck with me? Get your @ss to game winners, we'll let a C&CW war settle this. Oh, and Spyzer, do you ever actually fend for yourself, or does your boyfriend always do it for you? Ok dude try a freakin PROZAC and some tantrinal seriously man just calm down damn. ok well wow a temp fix big deal put in a real purpose to be in the credits and you will but wow a temp fix. and not to mention this sort of died ok so uhmm..... SHUT THE **** UP!!! heh that felt good but thats the last i will and also leave spyzer alone he has a life and so does everyone else especially hellfire. see we spend it ignoring ****ups like you ok see you need to learn respect ok you selfabsorbed whiney ass little brat.

-Chrono_MOT-
12-10-2002, 08:07 PM
Don't worry, he's already been marked for bypassing the language filter.

El Sitherino
12-10-2002, 08:09 PM
thats good so hes gone now or somethin?

-Chrono_MOT-
12-10-2002, 08:09 PM
What the hell is C&CW anyway?

El Sitherino
12-10-2002, 08:16 PM
dont know i would have asked but didnt wanna be called a n00b

Pnut_Man
12-10-2002, 08:35 PM
..

Pnut_Man
12-10-2002, 08:38 PM
Might as well share my opinion while i'm browsing around these forums. The arguements you people start up are so funny..

First of all, i don't know where all of the problems started, just one very important thing...Don't freaking harass this guy about the model! He'll find out some way to get it released! And that hint crap only wastes time, you see he's a first time modeller, just give him help straightforward..

And I noticed that Darkpanther got a little pissy a few posts ago..
No use in fighting against these "msg board surfers"... In my opinion, I could care less if you view Hellfire as the type of person who "****s up this society", *sigh*.

"we'll let a C&CW war settle this." Form of fighting in Nerd Land I presume..

Hmm, I'll probably get a few responses saying the info i posted doesn't do ****..lol..oh well

Rebel_Spy
12-10-2002, 09:38 PM
I agree with you Pnut, man. This flamming war started kinda funny, that panther guy just get piss off too easy. BTW, I also don't know what the heck is C&CW, so I browse throug google and find this: C&CW (Clubs and Clans Wars) A crappy RPG game. Don't nothing about it.

Kain
12-10-2002, 09:46 PM
Hey, arguing on a forum is alot like being in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded.

-Chrono_MOT-
12-10-2002, 10:16 PM
Funny, coming from someone who can't even spell "retarded".

Dark Panther
12-10-2002, 10:25 PM
ah, I shouldn't have said anything to you guys. I'm sorry for the way I acted, I just get pissed off easily. I just thought it was a really good model, and I just wanted credit for the prototype. Eh, well the whole point is I'm sorry for posting flames. Oh and C&CW is a place at gamewinners where you "battle" people with posts, and it's basically a good way to finish an arguement, a moderator decides http://www.gameadvice.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=115

Rebel_Spy
12-10-2002, 10:30 PM
ahhh, now I know, well, I think I was wrong, its not a game tho

Dark Panther
12-10-2002, 10:53 PM
besides the handle, it looks EXACTLY like the flamesaber gunblade. Woah, nevermind, it's like a 1.21MB file, probably no need to post this, well, yeah.

Kain
12-10-2002, 10:54 PM
hey look its fixed. get your ego in check and quit being a dick head

Rebel_Spy
12-10-2002, 11:14 PM
Well, I check the link, and I found that I was not enterily wrong...it is a RPG-like thing, just not a game. People fights each others with made-of stories.

Now, let's get back to the original topic... I think that Double_S84 had been gone for almost a month, perhaps this wip is just dead, hope not 'cause it was good. So, Panther if you want to made that weapon you must get the permission of the original authors and post a wip about it. Good luck

ASk
12-11-2002, 10:07 AM
This thread had become one large flame war

Commencing standard isolation procedures.