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Katarn07
10-06-2002, 10:53 AM
I want to know what will be in there. Will it be just this mod, each map seperately (please do, I still don't have a cable modem), MP maps (is you have time of course) and bots (if you have time as well)? I didn't see this any where in the FAQ, if it is, sorry.

MilesTeg
10-06-2002, 11:30 AM
The first thing that will be in this section is the demo. The demo will be split up in three files:
a game file (ca. 11 MB), a music file (at least 7 MB) and a video file (at least 9 MB)

We will see how weīll handle it with the complete mod...

Some team members have only 56k modems and we are trying our best to find a good solution for everybody (though it would be irritating to make thousands of file combinations)

Alex_P47
10-06-2002, 11:35 AM
Downloading map by map would be bad, they each have source files besides the map that they need.
I personally would prefer 1 file because its simply cleaner and I if I didnt have DSL or cable Id find a place that did with a cd burner and get it.
wouldent putting together the music,video, and game be kinda tricky for average people downloading it?

MilesTeg
10-06-2002, 12:10 PM
I think thatīs all just an alternative to the one-file thing we will release.
But if the complete mod really gets over 300 MB we could get problems finding a server thatīll host this monster in several versions...

Temujin
10-06-2002, 01:54 PM
I don't wanna make more work or put more thought into an already slow moving process, considering you don't update anymore, but why don't you make seperate files and 1 big file posted. That way cable modem people (like myself) have an easy downloading process, and other 56k modem people have an easier way too.:jarjar: :gun7:

The_One
10-06-2002, 02:11 PM
Yes, we do update! Apologies for things being slow in the past month but things have been really hectic. That isn't really a problem now - and it has really been a co-incidence that my computer bowled over aswell last weekend.

Anyway, we're returning to the weekend update plan - as you can see I updated today, but next week is a big update. Besides, once the demo is out, you're not gonna care about the website for a while ;)

Katarn07
10-07-2002, 07:22 PM
I will still visit the sit, because I probably can't even download that much on a 28k or 56k (I'm not even sure). Kind of off the topic, but if I don't have a CD-RW drive but my friend does along with a cable modem, could he save the demo files to a CD and then could I take the files off of that disk (or copy them) and into my JO directory. Do I need a CD-RW drive for this to work? I really hope this isn't the case so I will be able to play the game as well.

MilesTeg
10-07-2002, 08:06 PM
Well, actually every CD-RW drive can make CD-Rīs which are readable on every cd/ dvd drive.
And yes, your friend can copy the files and you just have to copy them in a mod dir (e.g. C:\JediKnight2\Gamedata\darkforces\ )

Katarn07
10-08-2002, 05:11 PM
Thanks, and I know I really should not have posted that. I asked him in PE today, so I should be able to get my hands on the demo as well. I can't wait!

***I forgot the real reason I came here... I think the following things should be available for download there.
---Demo
---Trailor(s)
---Full MOD
---Each Level Seperately (for those selective users with 28k and 56k modems, like myself)

And of course if you have the time...

---Bots
---MP Maps

Alex_P47
10-09-2002, 02:26 PM
I think youd technically be able to use JO bots so we could just skin em. I could always port some old MP map favorites of mine from JK(cloud city,nar shadda)

Katarn07
10-09-2002, 06:00 PM
I think between the demo and full release you can also include m3ps of the soundtrack for Dark Forces. That would be REALLY cool.

The_One
10-14-2002, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by Katarn07
I think between the demo and full release you can also include m3ps of the soundtrack for Dark Forces. That would be REALLY cool.

We were going to do a sampler type thing, or at least I want Ben to, of the main themes from the soundtrack.

In the demo there will be 4 tracks (I think)

-Menu theme
-Star Wars Fanfare, to Crow flyby
-Secbase Explore
-Secbase Action

Darth_Linux
10-15-2002, 03:57 PM
we've got a package of wallpapers that are ready to download too, I just have to get Rich to put them up.

Katarn07
10-15-2002, 05:02 PM
Woohoo, DF wallpapers. I hadn't thought of those. Great idea.

I'm confused. Will the menu's music be that eery theme to DF (the opening credits music). I love that song!

The_One
10-15-2002, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by Katarn07
Woohoo, DF wallpapers. I hadn't thought of those. Great idea.

I'm confused. Will the menu's music be that eery theme to DF (the opening credits music). I love that song!

Yeah, that's the one ;)

When we have a site that doesn't consist of "Klesk Server Administration" I'll do a news post. But whenever the site goes back online, I won't be able to do a proper update until the weekend.

Luckily I have a couple of weeks off though, starting Sat, so I can work a lot more on the site. The FAQ is where my attention will be focused - I'll be posting about that soon, so keep your eyes peeled :p

Katarn07
10-24-2002, 05:22 PM
I am currently downloading the wallpaper. I am getting a cable modem this Saturday, so I can definately download the upcoming demo right away! You should have thumbnails of what the wallpapers look like, just a thought.

Alex_P47
10-24-2002, 06:00 PM
The One:
speaking of wallpaper -
I made one (800X600)
If you like it , put it in the dl section.
its in the upload folder

Alex_P47
10-28-2002, 02:06 PM
^ ^ ^
! ! !

more stuff for download section,
The one:respond if seen.

michael_collins
10-28-2002, 02:14 PM
1)have 56k modem
2)please put this in as one file, i mean, if we have something like gozilla we can download it peicemeal right?
3) do not give a hoot how big this thing is, i will download it, you have my promise

Alex_P47
10-29-2002, 02:45 PM
? wrong subject?

Geoffrey S
10-30-2002, 01:00 PM
Hey, maybe if we do a really good job on this PCGamer will put it on their discs. Wouldn't that be nice?

Alex_P47
10-30-2002, 01:54 PM
that would be cool

Katarn07
10-30-2002, 05:37 PM
Hey, can you change JO's MP3's as well to play DF's end credits instead of ANH's? Also, how will you do the credits? Will you combine them all into one scene like the movies or against the DF logo?

***When I say you, I meant WE as the players downloading this mod. Copy and paste it and rename the copy as endcredits or something?

MilesTeg
10-30-2002, 05:40 PM
Iīve found a proper (and uncommon) solution for the credits in the demo. Weīll see what we can do for the full mod. (I have no idea whatīs possible concerning background images etc.)

MilesTeg
10-30-2002, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by Katarn07
***When I say you, I meant WE as the players downloading this mod. Copy and paste it and rename the copy as endcredits or something?

:confused:
I donīt know if I understood your question right. Iīm sure we will make the credits ingame and as a text file...

Alex_P47
11-01-2002, 04:40 PM
yeah. In-game credits are not that hard to do.

Darth_Linux
11-01-2002, 11:05 PM
they are already done actually . . .

Alex_P47
11-02-2002, 12:35 PM
yeah, I know, I saw them in internal demo

Katarn07
11-10-2002, 06:32 PM
Can any one else not download the new collage that is in the downloads section???

MilesTeg
11-10-2002, 07:19 PM
hereīs the correct link:
http://darkforces.jediknightii.net/downloads/wallpaper/collage/collage800.jpg

shame on you, The_One :o

ImmolatedYoda
11-11-2002, 02:24 AM
hmm..thats one interestin collage ya goot there...im debating whether to use it or not...i kinda like my n00b photoshop experiment wallpaper

Katarn07
11-11-2002, 09:03 AM
Just Kidding. That looks great. I like the way you got Kyle without a beard in there, but it is the actor from JK (I think...). That looks really good, much better than the first one.

Alex_P47
11-11-2002, 10:57 AM
yea, its the JK actor with beard edited out

Katarn07
11-11-2002, 01:13 PM
I see that the Star of Alderaan is there in the picture. How does one recieve that medal??? Question for the Star Wars nuts like myself...

Alex_P47
11-11-2002, 04:49 PM
only known use of it was at end of DF. May have been in Xwing series. anyone seen it anywhere else?
I guess to get it you gota kill a dark trooper phase 3
lol

Bar_Tender
11-11-2002, 11:37 PM
I believe you got it in X-Wing at the end of Tour III, where you blow up the Death Star. So apparently you gotta make something cause as big an explosion as the one Obi-Wan felt :D

Katarn07
11-12-2002, 11:36 AM
I thought you get that in XWing Alliance also, that was one of the only medals I had recieved because I never killed enough people... Maybe it is to preserve peace, because Alderaan is a peaceful planet... Kyle saved the galaxy from DTs, Luke saved it from Death Star, and Ace Azameen saved it from what ever was in the level you get that medal...

I kinda rambled on up there :D :D :D

Katarn07
01-11-2003, 05:24 PM
Will we be getting a soundtrack for download or not?

It'd be really cool to have before the release, just because the release is still sometime away. Once your done, I think you should zip all of the mp3s up and offer it as a soundtrack: main title scroll to the end credits.

ImmolatedYoda
01-11-2003, 05:32 PM
hmm..well, im not sure what the team is doing, but i hope theyre not making the music play like it does in JO. ie, the music changes when something is completed or a new area is reached...because i took the JO mp3s out of the pk3s and there were 100s of mostly bits and pieces of SW movie music, combining different portions. i dont really like it when its out of the game, ingame its ok. but yeah, a soundtrack would be cool. i already have all of the midis and sounds and BMs and stuff out of the original DF.

Darth_Linux
01-11-2003, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by Katarn07
Will we be getting a soundtrack for download or not?

It'd be really cool to have before the release, just because the release is still sometime away. Once your done, I think you should zip all of the mp3s up and offer it as a soundtrack: main title scroll to the end credits.

This is probably manageable. It should be about 50 MB. Once we get final versions of all the music and make it loop nicely I'll work on releasing the soundtrack.

Katarn07
01-12-2003, 10:20 AM
Thanks alot!

I remember above I asked about the DF title music being in it, and someone responded it'd be playing on the menu. I would like to say, this isn't the track I was talking about. If I'm not mistaken, that is the Arc Hammer's musical score.

The theme I was referring to was right after the title scroll, when the credits come up for the first time. You also here it after beating the game. The main end theme plays and then it turns into the DF song, and then back to the end theme (like ESB does for the Imperial March)

I'd post a link, but don't know a website it plays on. I found one once, because I have it on my PC. It's a .wav file. I think this track should play on the menu (if you plan on doing so) if you do not plan on having the credits go up before and after the game.

Lundquist
01-12-2003, 12:06 PM
You're probably talking about this one: http://www.angelfire.com/music4/gffrpg/DfopenL.mp3
what I call the 'Dark Trooper' theme. I also think it should play during the menu, as this would be the only place to hear it, unless, of course, you decide to add the opening staff credits.

Katarn07
01-12-2003, 04:56 PM
Link doesn't work, but yes, that is probably the one.

ImmolatedYoda
01-12-2003, 05:02 PM
Katarn, just right click and choose "Save Target As" so you can download it.

Katarn07
01-12-2003, 05:43 PM
That is a redone version, with a little added part, such as when the camera goes down to show the Crow fly up to Danuta.

I have the original, midi one. That is common online.

Lundquist
01-12-2003, 05:55 PM
yeah, I know, I made it. It's a first draft on a project I'm working on, I just cut the main title off.

Katarn07
01-12-2003, 05:59 PM
Are you updating all of the music, or not?

It sounded good. Add the real SW theme before it, and it sounds movie like!

Darth_Linux
01-13-2003, 01:19 AM
Originally posted by Katarn07
Are you updating all of the music, or not?

It sounded good. Add the real SW theme before it, and it sounds movie like!

Yeah, the opening music for the Demo was close but not quite right - but we got that fixed now. Kinda ran outta time in the end to fix it.

We are updating all the music but we won't be changing the intro theme to the London Orchestra version - we're sticking with the MIDI sounds for aesthetic reasons. some will not like it, but the vast majority of emails I've gotten liked having the original MIDI, including the intro theme, redone in MP3 format.

thanks!

Katarn07
01-13-2003, 04:50 PM
I was talking to Lundiquist there, but thanks for the info.

I like the midi opening, it is like DF. I am for original music against JO's. It is original and sounds cool. Download the link above and see what I was talking about.

Lundquist
01-13-2003, 06:16 PM
I'm also for original music instead of reusing williams score, great as it is, it's just overused.
And, yes, I am redoing all of the music from the game, I've been working on making my own soundtrack for quite a while now.

Katarn07
01-13-2003, 06:49 PM
Directed to Lundiquist. Will you be adding Williams's theme before the file you just gave us instead of a redone midi (which is good for the game, but not burning onto a CD)?

Lundquist
01-14-2003, 09:42 AM
well, I've tried as you suggested and added a real recording of the title at the beginning, though I used one that isn't performed by LSO. I also made some minor changes to the DF theme, there are still some changes that need to be done, I'm not entirely happy with the transition from orchestra to synth. anyway, if you want to give it a listen: http://www.angelfire.com/music4/gffrpg/DarkForces.mp3

MilesTeg
01-14-2003, 10:39 AM
very very nice...

I think (ok, I heard that music over and over...) that the transition is very well done.

btw: great instruments!

Katarn07
01-14-2003, 01:58 PM
I like the vocals (as faint as they are). It reminded me of TPM's Duel of the Fates. The one where Maul takes on Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon.

I'll try out the new copy.

*** The new one doesn't work for me. It's choppy. I'll try a second time. I'll give my opinion on it if I get it working... Still doesn't work. :confused: It's odd.

Oh well, I'll just wait for you to finish it the way you planned on doing so.

Lundquist
01-14-2003, 03:24 PM
thanks. I've uploaded it in another bitrate here:
http://www.angelfire.com/music4/gffrpg/DarkForces1.mp3
this is in CBR 160, I know that some players (specially WMP has some problems with VBR mp3)

Katarn07
01-14-2003, 03:28 PM
That is what I was using. Thanks!
Also, I've PMed you about this project. Not sure if you don't check yours (I do once a week), so I emailed you via the button on these forums.

*** Your site is suspended due to too much bandwith. I'd knock off one of those downloads to reduce it.... (leave the last one for those with WMP please)

Katarn07
01-15-2003, 02:07 PM
Lundiquist - I got it. Very nice. I really like it. Just a thought on the transition (if you don't have a soulution yet), the synth starts up at 01:25, instead of having that, put in the movie's as well. It is the same music there. That is when the camera goes down in the movies. Then start up synth with the synth that starts at 01:40. That is the music that plays as the camera goes down in DF and you watch the Crow fly by.

I'm sure you have a better solution and I'll just wait for you to finish it up.

Tzar Sectus
01-15-2003, 10:59 PM
I just listened to that mp3 you posted, Lundquist, and I must say that sounds pretty darn good. I hope you're planning to release the soundtrack to the public when you're done, 'tis something I'd really like to hear the end result of.

-Remi

Katarn07
01-16-2003, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by Lundquist
I'm also for original music instead of reusing williams score, great as it is, it's just overused.
And, yes, I am redoing all of the music from the game, I've been working on making my own soundtrack for quite a while now.

That answer your question, Tzar?

I think it'd be neat to have that on the site once it is done too. I'd get both of them, probably burn Lundiquists to a CD, but the redone midi will be an excellent teaser for the mod. Can't wait for that either!