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Pad
10-18-2002, 08:09 AM
do u believe in fate or not?

i mean, do u think the outcome of ur life is determined (whatever u do, u still come to the same point, like destiny) or do u think ur life is about coincedence and making choices???

for example:
there is this girl i really like, but we never had a chat before. i went to a party last night and she was there. a friend off mine was taking some pics and asked us to pose for a pic. after the pic we started talkin and u know ...

was that coincedence or fate?

atinymonkey
10-18-2002, 08:37 AM
Hmmm, you copped off with some girl that you like and all of a sudden it's fate working it's twisted hand?

Wait a few weeks until fate has taken you to a bar, got you drunk, lost your car keys and stolen your wallet. If fate does exitst he's got a f@##ing twisted sense of humour.

Sivy
10-18-2002, 08:43 AM
if you believe in fate, you can't believe in luck and i personally believe in luck.

Pad
10-18-2002, 08:44 AM
i actually dont believe in that fate crap. i shiver with the tought i dont have control of my own life. but i was thinking about what happend. that was a hell of a lot of coincedence. i mean i didnt have to do anything.

atinymonkey
10-18-2002, 08:59 AM
Balance that out with all the times where the girls have ignored you, turned you down or moved off to Nottingham to buy a house with that bloke that you were sure that it was over with and besides which wasn't nearly as good looking or as funny as I am, and I'll tell him so next ime I see his little munchkin face the slimy, flea infested goat lover.


Sorry. I'm ok now.

Kstar__2
10-18-2002, 09:12 AM
Originally posted by Sivy B
if you believe in fate, you can't believe in luck and i personally believe in luck.

yup. me too, i'm a positive thinker:cool:

ZBomber
10-18-2002, 09:30 AM
I believe taht you can change it, so I wouldn't say I believe in destiny....

PhantomHelix
10-18-2002, 10:15 AM
i dunno.....i believe in luck, and i suppose fate exists too....its kinda cool cause you kno that whatever you do, you are doin what you are meant to do, even if it is slackin off and not doin homework :lol:

Eldritch
10-18-2002, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by Padanime
i actually dont believe in that fate crap. i shiver with the tought i dont have control of my own life. but i was thinking about what happend. that was a hell of a lot of coincedence. i mean i didnt have to do anything.

Ah, but no matter what you do, or how much you try to control what you do, what makes you think that it wasn't fate for you to do so?

But what your experience sounds like is just a lot of coincidence and luck. Not to play it down - I mean, it worked out great!

-Anakin

Darklighter
10-18-2002, 12:01 PM
I don't believe it...everything is changing all the time, it would be impossible to predict the outcome of the future...everything is spontaneous, I don't believe there are any forces that have our future outlined for us.

leXX
10-18-2002, 12:05 PM
No, because I don't like the idea that I'm not in control of my own destiny. ;)

Darklighter
10-18-2002, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by leXX
No, because I don't like the idea that I'm not in control of my own destiny. ;)

I think it's supposed to be 'life', and not 'destiny';)lol

leXX
10-18-2002, 12:10 PM
I was gonna look through the script to make sure I got it right, but I couldn't be bothered! :xp:

Eldritch
10-18-2002, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by leXX
No, because I don't like the idea that I'm not in control of my own destiny. ;)

But just because you don't like the idea doesn't mean that it can't be true. ;)

Originally posted by Darklighter
I don't believe there are any forces that have our future outlined for us.

There doesn't have to be. Perhaps these things just happen without being part of a grand design or something.

leXX
10-18-2002, 12:15 PM
ok, what I really think is that everything happens for a reason. what goes around comes around. yin yang etc etc.

I think we all have a path set out before us but it is up to us how we choose to walk it.

-s/<itzo-
10-18-2002, 12:21 PM
fate is for lazy people. i believe its up to you to determine your future.


getting pulled over by a cop when you have drugs in your car thats stupidity.

oj being innocent, well we all know he paid the judge.

and getting hit by a bus while walking now thats just bad luck.

but if the bus reverses and run over you again, thats god saying he hates you.

things happen for a reason.

C'jais
10-18-2002, 12:35 PM
Hmmmmm....

No, I don't believe in fate per se, but as lexx put it: Every action has a reaction.
Take the butterfly example: A butterfly in china flaps its wings and because of that it starts raining in New York. Why? Because the tiny puffs of air generated by that escalates into huge winds that further develops into pouring rain over NY....

So, if I move my hand like *this*, it will mean I'm going to die in a car accident when I'm 28.... Freaky! :eyeraise:

Lexx: What does Kunĝichi mean?

leXX
10-18-2002, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by cjais

Lexx: What does Kunĝichi mean?

Kunoichi - Female Ninja

The Kunoichi were a secret sisterhood in Ancient Japan. These women were experts in deception and masters of assassination. Female shrine attendants, concubines and servants moved about a Feudal Lord's castle with ease. Since these women went virtually unnoticed, they were capable of committing acts of espionage with little or no interference.

Kunoichi-jutsu revolves around the art of deception. These warrior-women base their training on surprise tactics and hidden weapons. A Kunoichi never wastes time or energy in combative situations. Their unarmed fighting and weaponry skills make use of strategically placed vital attacks that are designed to incapacitate their opponents very quickly.

Ever-vigilant, the Kunoichi is never a victim. Although she may appear weak and helpless, it is a ruse. In reality, the Kunoichi uses her outward appearance and conditioned emotional responses to manipulate those who would cause her harm.

;)

C'jais
10-18-2002, 12:44 PM
Hehehe.....

LeXX "Straight outta google" Kunoichi eh?

Nevermind - cool enuf for me, thx for info!

leXX
10-18-2002, 12:48 PM
well why didn't ya just do a search for it in the first place then? :rolleyes:

:xp:

C'jais
10-18-2002, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by leXX
well why didn't ya just do a search for it in the first place then? :rolleyes:

:xp:

Cuz you damn well had to write it with funny lil' letters miss..... :xp:

mima kake
10-18-2002, 01:04 PM
I don't believe in anything.
Believe is unserten to me.

I know things and I don't know things.

Qui-Gon Jinn 64
10-18-2002, 01:39 PM
Your focus determines your reality. Fate is a superstition for people who cannot control their own lives. I am in control of my own life, and no-one else, just as you are all in control of your own lives. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

Elijah
10-18-2002, 01:54 PM
believing in fate isn’t logical, fate would say that everything is planned and is going to happen no matter what... We'll without coincidence there would be no fate... so they are all bound together in some way.

One thing cannot exist without it's opposite, For example:

Without Hate there would be no Love

Without Fear there would be no Comfort

ETC...ETC...


So, I being a Christian believe and KNOW that we have a choice, but God does know the outcome

And I DARE one of you collage students studying religion to tell me otherwise

Reb Starblazer
10-18-2002, 02:06 PM
To me, fate is what is pre-determined, something that will inevitably happen, no matter what. Your fate is mapped out long before you even existed, and I don't believe in fate. The only fate I believe in, is my final one.

However, destiny on the other hand... Destiny to me is the consequences of your actions, and your choices. Because you chose the red pen over the blue pen, something happens. However, if you had chosen the blue pen instead, perhaps it may not have happened, but you'll never know because your destiny changed because of that choice. Also, because of that particular choice you just made, you are destined to have to make another choice, based on the outcome of the earlier one. That's destiny, and to me destiny and fate are two separate and distinct things.

Because of destiny, and realizing the consequences of your actions, you can kind of "predict" what may happen next, I've done it plenty of times myself. Even co-incedences can be covered under this, as a co-incedence is when two destinies co-incide(ya like that one :D), and cross paths. Because of a choice you made, and a choice that a friend you haven't seen in 10 years made, you are destined to meet, at a certain time, at a certain place. But unlike with fate, it's not pre-determined, it's still subject to change, so you can't be completely sure if this particular destiny will occur. "Always in motion, the future is":yoda:

So do I believe in fate... no. Do I believe in destiny... well, let's just say I'm not dismissing the idea as easily as I do fate;)

Jed
10-18-2002, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by leXX
ok, what I really think is that everything happens for a reason. what goes around comes around. yin yang etc etc.

I think we all have a path set out before us but it is up to us how we choose to walk it.

Exactly. I needed a way to express my thoughts on the situation at hand, but leXX did b4 me.

Padanime, it's actually pretty scary....that exact situation happened to me about a year ago....freaky.

And, rumor has it, that after the pictures were developed, the girl kept the picture of us in her back pocket for months. This I did not know for at least a year later...

So check her back pocket. One way or another :D

ckcsaber
10-18-2002, 04:16 PM
Your own decisions are responsible for where you are. Fate doesn't make choices for you.

Marth
10-18-2002, 04:18 PM
yes i think there is a fate (or destiny is what I prefer) set before us. I believe are choices are already set out for us to make. Life is a cycle thugh (birth, age,old, death, reproduced) Destiny is already there although many have yet to even meet their destiny. Although eveyone's destiny differs they all have one thing in common: when we die we come back. i have and old saying to mention before i stop. "Life is but a dream, a dream with endless possibilities strecthed uot before them. Although they make their own choice they also make their own fate. We choose are own destiny all the time."
But that is just 1 opinion from one boy. .............................. ( i'd make a great lectureer)

Pad
10-19-2002, 07:53 AM
Originally posted by Darklighter


I think it's supposed to be 'life', and not 'destiny';)lol

darky is right leXX, its life :D

Taos
10-19-2002, 02:38 PM
I don't believe in fate..........I think that you can make your life however you want it-positive or negative.

I choose to be very positive and that's why I believe in luck.........now I also think that sometimes there are very strange coincidences that happen as well.

Like Reb was saying, I only have one fate and that is my death......it's just a question of when. I'm going to make my life as good as possible while I'm here and live each day with no regrets.




*gets off soapbox*

;)

Jah Warrior
10-19-2002, 03:40 PM
I subscribe to many philosophies, fatalism being oneof them, some things are just too uncanny for fate not to be real. However I think that some things are fate whereas others are not. I think good stuff on the whole is governed by fate whereas bad stuff is just bad luck.

And yes i'm confused!:eek: :confused: :eek: :confused: