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Luc Solar
10-23-2002, 06:27 AM
Jah Warrior complained about the swamp getting a bit "funky".
Maybe this thread will get things "going" for ya. :)

A while ago I started a thread called "English is sooo messed up". I'd like to combine that with this one, and thus create the Ultimate Provocation by criticizing not only the language used by 90% of you guys but also the whole basis of your society.

Sounds great, yes? :D

(Those who woke up this morning without their sense of humour are advised to stop reading this thread now.)

BUT - a monolog is rarely entertaining. And my arguments cannot ever be successfully contradicted anyways, so for the sake of keeping things interesting and getting you all to participate, I propose this:

Let's gather a little databank of things that show just how messed up the USA really is. :D

I'll start with the most obvious:

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1) The USA is run by George W. Bush. 'nuff said. :p
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2) Getting some coffee spilled on you:

a) the rest of the world:

Waitress: "Oops, sorry, heres a towel."

Customer: "Oh crap.. be a little more careful with that, will you. Thanks for the towel.

b) USA

Customer: "Oh My God! I'm so going to sue Ur ass! You are so dead! Wait 'till my lawyer gets his hands on you!! Mwahahahaha!"

Judge: "Corporations can not assume that they can spill coffee on innocent American consumers when ever they feel like it.
I order the defendant to pay the victim of this hideous crime 2.000 $ to compensate for the stain of her clothes, 500 $ to compensate for the laundry bill, 12.000 $ for the emotional distress caused and 1.750.000 $ in punitive damages.

Customer: "Sweeeeeeeeeet....."

Lawyer: "Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet..."

Corporation: "Oh well...this is America... thank god we've only had 3 of these cases this month."

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(No, Fatal, you don't have to number every point if you don't want to. Your's is a free country after all.. ;) )

STTCT
10-23-2002, 06:37 AM
I personally am offended by this thread. If I entitiled one "insert your country here is so messed up" some people would be pissed off to.


:usa:

The Truthful Liar
10-23-2002, 06:50 AM
I don't care even if this was directed for Sweden or America or Swaziland, any citizen wouldn't exactly like this (even though the point of this thread is quite hidden to me.) I can see how alot of americans will become offended (especially) since you guys have such big egos comparative to a number of other countries especially Europe. ;) However I'm not trying to say anything so I'll end with a good ol'

HEH

STTCT
10-23-2002, 06:53 AM
I think all countries have their good and their bad. But I would never go as far as to start stating reasons why I think other countries suck.

The Truthful Liar
10-23-2002, 06:56 AM
Yeah, however it's true and humorous. Everyone sues for everything over there. :)

"The point of this thread still eludes me..."

Luc Solar
10-23-2002, 07:12 AM
Ahem... I acknowledge the fact that this thread might be a tad provokative. It was not entirely unintentional. :rolleyes:

and thus create the Ultimate Provocation by criticizing not only the language used by 90% of you guys but also the whole basis of your society.

The point of this thread?

Jah Warrior complained about the swamp getting a bit "funky". Maybe this thread will get things going for ya.

and

Let's gather a little databank of things..

Btw - since when should there be a point in Swampy-threads? :D

(I do agree that some issues should be left alone. I don't consider "The enormous egos of Americans", that AB_Legion mentioned, one of them, though. Let's keep things remotely civil, yet somewhat exaggerated. That means no "nine-elevens" etc.)

STTCT
10-23-2002, 07:21 AM
u are just refering to stuff that is "stereotypical" - just because some woman sued over cofee being spilt on her doesn't mean all americans sue. That is such a generalization. Stop making these threads about stuff being "sooooo messed up" I don't come here to watch people bag on my country and language.

Luc Solar
10-23-2002, 07:36 AM
Originally posted by STTCT
u are just refering to stuff that is "stereotypical" - just because some woman sued over cofee being spilt on her doesn't mean all americans sue. That is such a generalization. Stop making these threads about stuff being "sooooo messed up" I don't come here to watch people bag on my country and language.

You missed this one didn't you:

(Those who woke up this morning without their sense of humour are advised to stop reading this thread now.)

I do not think I'm the first one to make fun of the US. I'm pretty sure at least Conan O'Brien did that once too. :rolleyes:

Maybe it's because I'm foreign. :crybaby:
Is this like when cool AfricanAmericanPeople call each others "Nigga" or "Brother" (or whatever) but when a white guy comes along and says it, he gets his butt kicked? :confused:

Oh well...I'm not holding a gun on your head, forcing you to read this thread.

STTCT
10-23-2002, 07:46 AM
huh now we are into the subject of "ebonics"!!! ahhhh

me without a sence of humor...kiss my hampster dancing ass.

JUST KIDDING

However - I don't see the humour in saying why someones country, language (ebonics or english) is ****ed up. It sucks. Its mean. And no - nobody is holding a gun to my head making me read this. But when someone posts something that I take offence to I'm apt to respond with my dancing hampster avatar and my


:mrt:

mr. t smiley

Luc Solar
10-23-2002, 08:05 AM
Originally posted by STTCT
It sucks. Its mean.

I plead Not Guilty!
This unfortunate misunderstanding is caused solely by the differences of the communicational traditions of our countries.

Furthermore, I'm deeply offended by these allegations and demand the claimant to pay me 4.000 $ in order to restore balance to my fragile psyche. :joy:

Uh...I need coffee. :(

PhantomHelix
10-23-2002, 08:07 AM
i usually think pointless threads are funny.....but this one makes no sense.

STTCT
10-23-2002, 08:23 AM
ur sueing me for ....?!?!?

:rolleyes:

ah ur in finland - not america therefore by your theory only us americans can sue over meaningless allegations

PhantomHelix
10-23-2002, 08:26 AM
lol.....ur gettin sued! HAHAH! just kiddin....

well, this thread is pointless....

C'jais
10-23-2002, 08:41 AM
This is what this thread was meant to be about:

Collecting wierd facts about the US.

For example: People in the US tend to sue each other for rediculous sums of money, not to mention over tiny mistakes.

Here's another: In the US, it caused a greater uproar that Clinton got caught with his pants down, than Georgie Jn. got elected president with an IQ of 90.....

PhantomHelix
10-23-2002, 08:43 AM
ohhhhhhhhhh.....

well, there was a case where a guy broke into a house and cut himself on the glass. he sued the owners, and won the case... im serious.....





i dunno if he went to prison after tho.....

Luc Solar
10-23-2002, 08:43 AM
Hmmm... What do you mean? I can't sue even if I get a slimy American lawyer? Nooo.. That can't be...they...they said I have a solid case... all they needed was my credit card number.. :confused:

Btw - I remember reading a statistic that showed that only in 0.03 % ( or was it 0.3% ... or 3%?) of the all the cases where claims for damages were made, something was actually awarded. It's true! :eek:

If I were a judge (a US one, I mean) I'd slap the claimant with a nice little "Here's a fine of 2.000 $, thanks for wasting my time with idiotic claims."

No matter what happens, every case contains a claim for damages.

My point? I dunno..

Now...In MY COUNTRY (lol) a guy was almost burned to death by some punks playing with gasoline. They wanted to see what a burned boy looks like, you see.
Somehow he managed to survive but ended up with horrible burns, making Niki Lauda look like a barbie doll. He got awarded damages a total of 12.000 $!
Very cool. Never mind the horrible pain etc. he'd have to put up with the rest of his life... with that kind of money, he could go and buy himself a used car!! Yay!

...my point? Uhm...I forgot. :p

PhantomHelix
10-23-2002, 08:51 AM
oh well....we al forget the point at some point or another. welcome to insanity. we've been expecting you.........

:lol:

Luc Solar
10-23-2002, 08:58 AM
*gasp*

Bush has an IQ of 90? Seriously?

...he must have cheated! :D

Okay, I won't flood this thread with weird laws, but I'll give you an example:

By Ohio law it is illegal to fish for whales on Sunday or to get a fish drunk.

...fish...for....whales....in OHIO? ....seriously? :D

PhantomHelix
10-23-2002, 08:59 AM
lol

yeah, sometimes legislation goes a little overboard on these things.....pointless laws have been known to occur, its not uncommon :D

STTCT
10-23-2002, 09:01 AM
thanks for editing the topic title :)


I think that a really dumb thing in america is the MEDIA! For example...the Sniper case, OJ etc. But then again...Media everywhere has gotten kinda outrageious I mean look what happened to Princess Diana etc. Oh well...the sniper thing pisses me off though. 9/11 pissed me off too after awhile.

PhantomHelix
10-23-2002, 09:04 AM
yeah, the media is crazy.....

also, the ppl of the gov't have gone trigger-happy with censorship duties...

in a song i listened to, it said bullets and gun in it, and both were censored....they aren't swears, and they r not offensive. it doesn't make sense to me.........

STTCT
10-23-2002, 09:11 AM
Taxes in this country suck

I give up 1/3 my hard earned money to the government to support illegal immigrants and people who probably don't deserve to be on welfare. I also pay taxes to support those who are "disabled" and unable to work. I really don't mind helping those who are really in need and disabled...but I work in a warehouse and the epidemic that goes around here is "straining your back" and then they go off on disability and we can't replace them or fire them and we still have to pay them :(

GonkH8er
10-23-2002, 09:11 AM
see but people still respect clinton far more than bush jr... or at least they should.


clinton is by far the best president you guys have ever had, from a foreigners perspective. he was level headed and intelligent, and a good sax player :D

PhantomHelix
10-23-2002, 09:12 AM
man, that really sux.

im 14, so i dont have a job yet, so i dont kno what taxes r like, cept for sales tax, which pisses me off.....

Kstar__2
10-23-2002, 09:20 AM
Originally posted by GonkH8er
see but people still respect clinton far more than bush jr... or at least they should.


clinton is by far the best president you guys have ever had, from a foreigners perspective. he was level headed and intelligent, and a good sax player :D

you are so right, if you have clinton next to bush, and ask some world wierd person who could be a president, he would say clinton, and my god would he laugh his ass off if some1 said the bush was a president:D

Hekx
10-23-2002, 09:22 AM
I found it funny :lol:

STTCT
10-23-2002, 09:24 AM
ya i'm not a fan of bush either - he's too extreme! Doesn't seem to have any thoughts sometimes...and god forbid he should speak! ack. You know...Clinton was a slime ball...but at least he was kinda rounded as far as being too "extreme". But sometimes our choices for Presidents REALLY Suck. Its hard to choose especially when all they do is bash eachother down and really don't talk about their plans for the country or their values.

FatalStrike
10-23-2002, 09:36 AM
Yeah So what if America is a little odd. Its no less odd then you leather short wearing, World War having, coffee shop pot heads.

So what if in the US we shield our childrens eyes if there is a breast exposed on television, only to later allow the child to watch a violent movie which we consider ok as long as no one uses a bad word.

The best things about the US...

You like women? We have them in every flavor available :)

You like cars? We have streets big enough and gas cheap enough to allow you to get whatever car you want

You like guns? We have enough guns to take over France in the morning and be back by dinner time.

You like a certain weather type? We have them all from FreezemNutz Alaska to ToastumNutz Nevada

Luc Solar
10-23-2002, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by STTCT
Taxes in this country suck

I give up 1/3 my hard earned money to the government to support illegal immigrants.....

Around here 40% or more of your paycheck goes to taxes. If you earn well, you end up paying up to 70% taxes. (and I'm not talking about stinky rich people)

We also pay (just checked) 1.15 € = $ for one litre of gas. But then again - we rarely drive (and I quote)

ugly big petrol wasting whales!

So I guess that makes us even. :D

Yeah...the US media... I get pissed off by the Finnish media every now and then but.. they're not even comparable.

Last week I bought my first British newspaper. It was quite a shock. And it wasn't nearly one of the worst one's I think. The Daily Mail? Mirror...? I can't remember.

Anyways - the stories were so utterly disqusting stating from straight out lies to checkbook journalism. --> "Tell us (or simply make up) a story about some british celeb who squeezed your underage-thighs and we'll pay you 70.000 £"

Can't believe people read that stuff..or get away with publishing it! Víva la freedom of speech :rolleyes:

Another funny thing (sorry for getting off topic) I noticed was the way British papers make their topics. Made me laugh for quite some time. They really like word-games don't they..?

--> "Billy flashes Willy, Christina Aquileather, Ricky's pricky, A ham for Beck' ....uh...well, you know..."Ouchie for Coachie"-kind of topics on every page. I found it hysterical. But maybe that's just me. :D

C'jais
10-23-2002, 09:48 AM
I don't find Clinton to be a "slimeball" at all - yes he messed around where he shouldn't, but he is by far the better president of the two. And being the best president, when you're a president is the thing that's most important.

And don't even start about your "heavy taxes".... LOL - In Denmark we have to give up 60% of everything we earn.... :lol:

STTCT
10-23-2002, 09:49 AM
i suddenly feel overwhelming relief in knowing a government is out there stealing more tax money than mine :rddance:

C'jais
10-23-2002, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by STTCT
i suddenly feel overwhelming relief in knowing a government is out there stealing more tax money than mine :rddance:

They aren't really stealing, the gov't put that money to damn good use here in Denmark: taking good care of the weak - you can actually live comfortably in Dk without a job at all.

Of course, the huge tax means that moonlighting is a national sport here, as well.... hehehe....

ShockV1.89
10-23-2002, 10:14 AM
Here we go, I got a few funky laws for ya...

New York:

A fine of $25 can be levied for flirting. This old law specifically prohibits men from turning around on any city street and looking "at a woman in that way." A second conviction for a crime of this magnitude calls for the violating male to be forced to wear a "pair of horse-blinders" wherever and whenever he goes outside for a stroll.

It is against the law to throw a ball at someone's head for fun.

A license must be purchased before hanging clothes on a clothesline.

The penalty for jumping off a building is death.


North Dakota:

Beer and pretzels can't be served at the same time in any bar or restaurant.

It is illegal to lie down and fall asleep with your shoes on.


And, my personal favorite...

Louisiana
It is illegal to rob a bank and then shoot at the bank teller with a water pistol. (NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!)

STTCT
10-23-2002, 10:17 AM
i don't know...taxes are good when they are put to good use. taxes are bad when it is spent on meaningless things and people who do not deserve it.


and in Denmark what does moonlighting mean?

here it means having 2 jobs and not telling either of them.

PhantomHelix
10-23-2002, 10:18 AM
lol.

you cant shoot him with a water pistol? bummer, that takes all the fun out of it! :lol: just kiddin :D

ShockV1.89
10-23-2002, 10:20 AM
you cant shoot him with a water pistol? bummer, that takes all the fun out of it!

Thats what I'M saying! What a dumb law...

PhantomHelix
10-23-2002, 10:27 AM
i completely agree......good thing i dont live in North Dakota!

FatalStrike
10-23-2002, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by STTCT
Taxes in this country suck

I give up 1/3 my hard earned money to the government to support illegal immigrants and people who probably don't deserve to be on welfare.

You actually beleive that Right Wing nonsense? HAHA!

Let me put it to you like this. Farmer in the southern states have farms that hire mexican illegals to work for $1 an hour. No say they have 100 workers, working 10 hour days for one year (52 weeks).

100 x 10 = 1000 Hours a day of labor
1000 x 5 = 5000 hours a week
5000 x 52 = 260,000 Hours a year which costs the farmers $260,000 at a dollar an hour

Compare that to what should "lagally" be paid to them even at minimum wage

260,000 x $5.45 = 1,417,000.00 (thats a $1,157,000.00 difference per hundred illegal workers and there are much more then a hundred)

So when you think that the "illegals" are exploiting our money think again champ. We are the ones exploiting them! Do realise how many farms and construction companies would go under if they had to pay the legal rate for work? Do you also realise that without illegals around that they would struggle to find any americans that would work even HALF as hard as they do for minimum wage!

So please don't blame illegals, it just makes you look ignorant.

ShockV1.89
10-23-2002, 11:17 AM
So please don't blame illegals
:rolleyes:

FatalStrike
10-23-2002, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by ShockV1.89

:rolleyes:

Do you see fault in my logic, Shock?

I could also point out that White folk use more Welfare money then anyone else.

Or perhaps the poor white kentucky boys that grow 1/3 of this nations marajuana supply, yet still collect welfare?

Hehe I was being nice :)

C'jais
10-23-2002, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by STTCT
i don't know...taxes are good when they are put to good use. taxes are bad when it is spent on meaningless things and people who do not deserve it.


and in Denmark what does moonlighting mean?

here it means having 2 jobs and not telling either of them.

Sowwwy! Screwed up, I did...

What I meant with moonlighting, is that you work for someone and don't pay taxes off your salary.

Example: I work 90 kroner an hour (moonlighting, or working "black" as we call it), so instead of recieving only a mere 40 kroner, as I should, I get the full monty = 90 kroner.

Both a benefit for the employer and the employee, but unfortunately, also illegal :(

Also, I blame the illegals :D

Elijah
10-23-2002, 12:37 PM
I'm so tired of this... All you non-usa people act as if the everyday American has any power over they stupid government! We cant do jack about all this stupid stuff that happens and I’m sick of you people assuming we are all the same way.

C'jais
10-23-2002, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by ZDawg
I'm so tired of this... All you non-usa people act as if the everyday American has any power over they stupid government! We cant do jack about all this stupid stuff that happens and I’m sick of you people assuming we are all the same way.

Eh?

I've never assumed any of you would indulge in the sueing, or anything like that. I believe you can't do a damn thing about the stupid laws in your country etc.

However, you could have voted for a president with a wee higher IQ, IMHO....

This thread wasn't made to bash americans, merely to point out some illogical laws and stuff in God's own country.

You're free to provide us with some equally insane laws and inconsinstencies in other countries. Go ahead.

Elijah
10-23-2002, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by cjais

However, you could have voted for a president with a wee higher IQ, IMHO....

Oh? and you expect that out of Al Gore? HA! idiots! What do you people see in him? Bush is a grate man with grate standards and he knows how to run the country and not make choices that will get HIS people killed for no reason.

If gore was president on 9/11 He wouldn’t have attacked the Afgans... oh no, he would get everyone thinking he's so grate because he was nice to the cute little people who killed thousands of OUR Countrymen.

Bush did the right thing, yes Civs in Afgan died, that’s war its the way it is and that wont change. incase you didn’t notice, Bush liberated one of the most oppressed country’s in the world. you think otherwise? i dare you to prove me wrong.

It's not as if the people of Afghanistan liked us... they where having a frikin party the day the 2 towers fell

Father Torque
10-23-2002, 07:47 PM
Born in the USA Born in the USA (Oooooooooooooooklahoma OOOOOOOOOOOklahoma"hooray for the red white and blue yippe dooo yipeee yahhh da da duuhhhhh du bang bang bang bang bang bang bang ban gbang bang:D :D :D

teutonicknight
10-23-2002, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by ZDawg

Oh? and you expect that out of Al Gore? HA! idiots! What do you people see in him? Bush is a grate man with grate standards and he knows how to run the country and not make choices that will get HIS people killed for no reason.

If gore was president on 9/11 He wouldn’t have attacked the Afgans... oh no, he would get everyone thinking he's so grate because he was nice to the cute little people who killed thousands of OUR Countrymen.

Bush did the right thing, yes Civs in Afgan died, that’s war its the way it is and that wont change. incase you didn’t notice, Bush liberated one of the most oppressed country’s in the world. you think otherwise? i dare you to prove me wrong.

It's not as if the people of Afghanistan liked us... they where having a frikin party the day the 2 towers fell

"Grate" is spelled G-r-e-a-t you know...

I live in the US and I thought this thread was funny.

I live near San Fransico (Marin/San Rafael to be exact) and there's this town near by (Tiberion (sp?)). The citizens there decided one day to make a new law: leaf blowers are now illegal. Crazy :rolleyes:

Just to tell everybody, I hate all presidents. Vote for the Green Party!!! :)

Dath Maximus
10-23-2002, 10:37 PM
Bah! Kansas has the best laws!

4 months in jail for illegal bingo!

boo ya!

anywho, we dont sue that much, just major corporations like disney world.

you know walt is actually incased in carbonite there. holding mickeys hand.

gorganfloss
10-23-2002, 10:43 PM
The US is messed up bad. Especially how we voted Bush as president.

"Fool me once,
Shame on...Shame on you.
Fool me, ya aint gunna fool me again."

Luc Solar
10-27-2002, 05:53 AM
I've had the opportunity to view some products that were sold in the US market. Very amusing.

Take, for example, a car: It is filled with little tags, warnings. Somehow it seems that Americans will get hurt/sue otherwise.
For example: the rear-view mirror had a tag that said: Warning! Objects seen in the mirror might in reality be closer than it seems! ........lol...........

And another one (this tag was found on all 4 tyres): WARNING! Lying under the car while it is moving may be hazardous!

And: "Warning! Swallowing the cigarrette lighter may cause constipation and burns!"

(Okay, I made some of them up, but you get the idea.)


Another thing: I met a lawyer, who had just made a deal with a US-company. Americans bought some elevators from his Finnish company. He showed me the contract documents they normally use when selling products abroad. It was few pages long. Then he pulled out the contract they had just signed with the American company....it was like the friggin' phone book of Tokio! :eek:

Yeah...everything had to be covered.. f.ex § 73,4 b: The manufacturer will not be accountable for injuries caused by "repetitive banging of head against door when trying to exit elevator in motion". :rolleyes:

Oh - remember that old lady who tried to dry her cat in the microwave oven? Can't believe they didn't cover that one in the agreement...or at least put a warning-sticker about it!? :rolleyes: *sigh* poor old lady... I sure hope the ****load of money she was awarded helped her get past the sorrow of loosing her cat.


I also saw the cell-phone of an US exchange student a while ago. It was a Nokia (Nokia is Finnish.), just like the ones we are using. Yet there was something different about it. It was filled with writing and...whatever..
It looked like a new "Nokia 3210 - Special edition for the mentally handicapped and kids between ages 3-7."

Seriously... can't they RTFM? They need every function possible written on the phone itself? :p

Okay, I'm all done for now. :D

ShockV1.89
10-27-2002, 12:23 PM
Bush is a grate man with grate standards

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

As far as the labeling stuff, yeah, that gets way overboard. But the sad thing is that they have those labels because SOMEBODY did that at one time. (Theres a funny Jeff Foxworthy skit about this). On the little bags of silcate gel you find in the box with most electronics, it says "DO not eat this." Well, no ****...

Jah Warrior
10-27-2002, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by Luc Solar


Last week I bought my first British newspaper. It was quite a shock. And it wasn't nearly one of the worst one's I think. The Daily Mail? Mirror...? I can't remember.

Anyways - the stories were so utterly disqusting stating from straight out lies to checkbook journalism. --> "Tell us (or simply make up) a story about some british celeb who squeezed your underage-thighs and we'll pay you 70.000 £"

Can't believe people read that stuff..or get away with publishing it! Víva la freedom of speech :rolleyes:



LOL that was the mirror then, its more of a comic than a newspaper, try the independent or the guardian they are far better! as a rule of thumb any newspaper that has its name in red is for the illiterate.

Jah Warrior
10-27-2002, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by ZDawg

Oh? and you expect that out of Al Gore? HA! idiots! What do you people see in him? Bush is a grate man with grate standards and he knows how to run the country and not make choices that will get HIS people killed for no reason.

If gore was president on 9/11 He wouldn’t have attacked the Afgans... oh no, he would get everyone thinking he's so grate because he was nice to the cute little people who killed thousands of OUR Countrymen.

Bush did the right thing, yes Civs in Afgan died, that’s war its the way it is and that wont change. incase you didn’t notice, Bush liberated one of the most oppressed country’s in the world. you think otherwise? i dare you to prove me wrong.

It's not as if the people of Afghanistan liked us... they where having a frikin party the day the 2 towers fell


Ok let me point out a fact here:-

America had a choice between a qualified and experienced diplomat and a guy that ran a baseball team. Which did they choose? have a guess, which is the most ridiculous answer?

Jah Warrior
10-27-2002, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by FatalStrike
Yeah So what if America is a little odd. Its no less odd then you leather short wearing, World War having, coffee shop pot heads.

So what if in the US we shield our childrens eyes if there is a breast exposed on television, only to later allow the child to watch a violent movie which we consider ok as long as no one uses a bad word.

The best things about the US...

You like women? We have them in every flavor available :)

You like cars? We have streets big enough and gas cheap enough to allow you to get whatever car you want

You like guns? We have enough guns to take over France in the morning and be back by dinner time.

You like a certain weather type? We have them all from FreezemNutz Alaska to ToastumNutz Nevada

damn it fatal i was hoping our war had finished but I think it has to be resumed...

women? well i would guess a lot of them are obese, there are top birds everywhere not just in the US.

Cars? ours don't mess up the environment anywhere near as much, and our roads have corners and curves so as to make driving an enjoyable thing, not just a drag race. Ever noticed no indy cart drivers cut it in formula one? ever noticed how the top F1 drivers breeze it in indy cart?

Guns? barbarians.

Weather? good point fatal. i must admit. but its got more to do with size of country than how great a place it is.

to sum up other than the weather you are pointing out what makes the states SUCK.



also how the hell do you quote from multiple posts i just notcied I've tripple posted goddamnit!

Eldritch
10-27-2002, 01:26 PM
Just a couple of general statements from another resident of the USA.

1) I've seen it mentioned a couple of times that we elected G.W. Bush, but in fact - he did not get the most votes. He whined and complained and couldn't accept the fact that Gore had in actuality received more votes (mind you, I didn't like either of them, but I voted for Gore because Bush is an idiot). I can't wait till the next election - i'm voting for whoever is running against him because I can't stand Bush.
Bush has turned 9-11 into a political platform - a way for americans to not focus on how horrible his leadership is, how dumb and ignorant he is of other countries, and so we think he's great because he's off fighting some pointless war while he's really sending our economy into the toilet. 9-11, while it was a terrible tragedy, has been made into a much bigger deal than it should've been. Americans in general didn't care about terrorism when it was happening in the rest of the world. They didn't care that in many other countries terrorism has been running rampant. Yet all of a sudden we care because we've been directly affected... if we were really committed to wiping out terrorism we would've started it a long time ago. This "war" is self serving and pointless, and Bush is just adding fuel to the fire. That being said, i'll move on to my other, shorter points. :)

2) I have traveled quite extensively around the world and I know what most countries (especially in Europe) think of Americans. That is to say, they see us in stereotypes - dumb, loud, uncultured people with cowboy hats, Hawaiin shirts and cameras. They see us as a fat, lazy people. They see us in big cars on huge streets. And some of that is true. But it is wrong to group all americans into that category - as wrong as it would be to say all Germans eat bratwurst and play/listen to polka music. As wrong as it would be to say that all people in Amsterdam are porn addicted pothead criminals. Or that the Finnish people are blonde or redheaded idiots. Every country has its stereotypes and misconceptions - if you want to poke fun at Americans, I can join in... i've got a sense of humor. But most of what everyone has said has been stereotypes. If that's what you want this thread to be about, rename it "Making fun of American stereotypes" or something.

3) As for our cars... American cars, especially the SUV, are crap. Total, utter crap. But the majority of Americans don't drive American cars. We drive Honda, Acura, Hyundai, Mitsubishi... you know, imports! The kind that don't hurt the environment (Honda/Acura especially, all of them are ULEV) or guzzle gas. I hate the SUVs though... they're big, unnecessary, gas guzzlers that are the cause of most of our traffic accidents over here. Our streets are big because we have very large cities with no good method of public transportation (though we're slowly getting there)... one of the things I loved so much about Europe was that you DIDN'T have to drive a car all the time to get where you're going.

In closing I think that a large portion of Americans only consider themselves, not the rest of the world. It's part of the problem with not living so close, the way Europeans do. We are geographically isolated, so it's hard to feel part of a whole when you don't get regular contact with other cultures. I think that if everyone had the experience traveling that I have, the rest of the world wouldn't hate us so much. :(

And for Jah Warrior - your comment about the states sucking was totally uncalled for and a flat out insult, which is not what this thread is about. So consider yourself warned. :mad:

Jah Warrior
10-27-2002, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by JEDI_Anakin_S
And for Jah Warrior - your comment about the states sucking was totally uncalled for and a flat out insult, which is not what this thread is about. So consider yourself warned. :mad:

LOL:rolleyes:

"You" warning "me"?

well at least you have a sense of humour...

icefox98
10-27-2002, 01:45 PM
1: run by george w nuff said?

Nuff said? You should have stopped there, man.

Anywho, what country do you live in?

Nuff said.

(But Alas, I'm still going to go on, just like you.)

People from the U.S. don't take comments from people on a video game forum about the U.S. seriously.

A) They are probably jealous.

B) The United States is the best country to live in hands down. It is always in the news in other countries, because frankly other countries have no news-worthy/earth shattering events happening (example: European countries such as sweden, finland, etc etc where some of you are from I assume.) So, a country always in the news and always being talked about is always going to be critiqued, but the truth is, wherever your coming from, has A LOT more problems than the U.S.

Truth is, the U.S. actually does give you more freedom than any other country. In some ways this is bad (right to own guns, etc) but overall I would rather have a few problems with that than having individual rights taken away.

Please: People critiqing the U.S. where do YOU live? I would like to write a little bit about your country.

icefox98
10-27-2002, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by gorganfloss
"Fool me once,
Shame on...Shame on you.
Fool me, ya aint gunna fool me again."


:D :D :D Hahaha, yeah I saw that too. Wow, I can't honestly believe we have someone as dumb as Dan Quayle as the president.

But then again, I can. Bush is rich. Extremely rich. His Father was president. He was NOT elected. He was APPOINTED by the Supreme Court. He's not my President, that's for sure.

We have had bad Presidents, thats for sure, and I can only hope that we get a really good democrat to run for the next election, so we can get Bush OUT. The vote can't be close, or else Bush will just steal it again.

Another thing that a lot of people don't probably know...to start a War Congress needs to vote on it, then the President can send in troops, deploy whatever, etc...but Bush seemed to do this reverse with the war in Iraq. He said he was going to just send in troops and didn't even bother asking Congress, and people didn't realize this! For the U.S. to get into WWII, it took Roosevelt many years of showing why we should get in, and finnaly Congress ok'd it. This time around Bush just said he was going to have a War with Iraq...but something interesting I found out. Congress now has indeed voted.

But, Bush MADE them vote to okay it, saying that he already sent troops over and if they voted no, it would make the U.S. look scared if they are pulling out of Iraq.

So, the Congress Ok'd the War in Iraq and "gives the President the power to do whatever he needs in the Iraq Crisis."

Frankly, to hear that on the news scared me. People think oh maybe we wont have a war with Iraq....this is the 100 percent Good to Go ticket, and trust me Bush will USE IT.

One of the main reasons he wants to get Saddam, is because Saddam tried to assasinate Bush Sr., right after Desert Storm, and Bush, being raised on the Good Ol' Boys Texas rules, is going to avenge his Daddy and make him proud now that hes the President. This may sound kind of silly, and yes, it IS. I didn't believe it at first, until I read up on all of it...Bush is looking for revenge, and now that hes got the backing of the Congress, nothing will stop him.


Sorry for the double post!
;)

Luc Solar
10-27-2002, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by JEDI_Anakin_S
As wrong as it would be to say that all people in Amsterdam are porn addicted pothead criminals. Or that the Finnish people are blonde or redheaded idiots.

LMAO! Porn addicted pothead criminals!? Hahahahaha! Good one... :D

Anyways, I just wish to point out that we're not "blonde or redheads".. I think the Irish are the redheads(?). We don't have those around here. And I'm guessing our "blond-count" is quite similar to yours in the States.

As for all Finns being idiots...well... *cough* let's not discuss that matter any further. :joy:

Btw - what on earth does SUV stand for?

I do agree with what you said about 9-11.
And pulling out the US-flags during the opening ceremony of The Olympics was pretty sad. Like...as if it had ANYTHING to do with the Olympics..as if no other country had gone through anything horrible.. it was really silly. No other country would have pulled a stunt like that....oh well... :rolleyes:

JandoFett1842
10-27-2002, 07:13 PM
Luc Solar: America is so messed up!

JandoFett: YOU !(@)*&@#)(*&)#@($@#$!!!!!!!! IM GOING TO SOO YOUR ASS OFF YOU MOTHER @#@*&!!!!!!

Jk

Just dont diss our country, the only country that you sould be dissing are iraq or another terrroretst country for there stupidity.

AN IM SURE I COULD FIND A TON OF $HIT MESSED UP WITH FINLAND OR WHAT EVER COUNTRY YOUR FROM!!! WERE NOT PERFECT!! NO ONE IS!!! DEAL WITH IT!!!

Taos
10-27-2002, 07:43 PM
lol, I thought the original topic of the thread was funny! Living in america, it seems like everyone is suing everybody else.......

I know that's not the case but it just seems like ppl don't hesitate before thinking things through.......honestly, I'm really sick and tired of the lawsuits.....

Prime Example: The group of ppl trying to sue Bin Laden because he is responsible for the 9/11 attacks. They say the money that they win will end the war because it will "break the terrorists backs." The will have no financial backing, no support for their activities.

Are these ppl for real????? :rolleyes:


Sorry for my rant but I just get tired of it.......I got threatened with a lawsuit recently at the golf course I work at becuse of some idiot coming out into the middle of the hole I was playing and my ball had almost hit him......he was trying to tell me it was my fault????


*leaves quitely shaking head*



:( ;)

JandoFett1842
10-27-2002, 07:51 PM
Honestly, not everyone in amercia sues people! The only real reason you would need to sue are if someone hurt you badly and they would not pay for your med and stuff or if someone like raped you or sexualy harrased you. Sides its not so bad livign here! I love it!! I wouldnt live in any other country!! So dont diss us!

Pedantic
10-27-2002, 08:28 PM
SUV stands for Sport Utility Vehicle.

JandoFett1842
10-27-2002, 09:49 PM
Originally posted by Pedantic
SUV stands for Sport Utility Vehicle.

Uh . .. Ok? WTF does that have anything 2 do with this disucuion?

Pedantic
10-27-2002, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by Luc Solar
Btw - what on earth does SUV stand for?

Simmer down now! :(

JandoFett1842
10-27-2002, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by Pedantic


Simmer down now! :(

Ah. . . mesa see now!

Eldritch
10-27-2002, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by Jah Warrior


LOL:rolleyes:

"You" warning "me"?

well at least you have a sense of humour...

Yes, I am warning you. The unwaranted and unprovoked flame from you is not what this thread is about, and it goes against the forum rules so yes, "I'm" warning "you."

And I do have a sense of humor. I can take funny pokes at our various stereotypes, but all you proved was how much of a biggot you are.

Originally posted by JandoFett1842
Luc Solar: America is so messed up!

JandoFett: YOU !(@)*&@#)(*&)#@($@#$!!!!!!!! IM GOING TO SOO YOUR ASS OFF YOU MOTHER @#@*&!!!!!!

Jk

Just dont diss our country, the only country that you sould be dissing are iraq or another terrroretst country for there stupidity.

AN IM SURE I COULD FIND A TON OF $HIT MESSED UP WITH FINLAND OR WHAT EVER COUNTRY YOUR FROM!!! WERE NOT PERFECT!! NO ONE IS!!! DEAL WITH IT!!!

Ok, you're not really helping our case here, buddy. ;) Really showing the high-quality of our American Educational System. :D And before you respond with something like, "I was upset," or "I have dyslexia" (as so very MANY people on the forum say they do) or something along those lines, remember that what you say AND how you say it represents you as a person (and in a discussion like this, the US).

Originally posted by Luc Solar
Anyways, I just wish to point out that we're not "blonde or redheads".. I think the Irish are the redheads(?). We don't have those around here. And I'm guessing our "blond-count" is quite similar to yours in the States.

As for all Finns being idiots...well... *cough* let's not discuss that matter any further.

I was refering to the stereotype that all people from the Scandinavian (sp?) countries are blonde or red hair viking-types.
And I won't discuss the matter of Finns being idiots if you overlook the US educational system. ;)

And icefox - relax. Most of the people here are only pointing out the funny stuff from the US - stereotypes being the main example. If you'd like, you can start a similar thread about any other country you'd like - but I'd bet you don't have enough info to start one. :) And this was kind of my point from an earlier post... Americans in general just don't involve themselves as much as they should in the rest of the world - partially due to our geographical location, but partially because we still have a "we're better than you, we're the best, let's talk about what's wrong with YOUR country" attitude. That attitude needs to be replaced by something more positive for us to have a truly global society.

JandoFett1842
10-27-2002, 10:16 PM
Ok, what country are you from kid? im sure there something not perfect about it!! And i was posting a Joke ok???!!!

Eldritch
10-27-2002, 10:25 PM
If you had bothered to read my first post, you'd know I live in the US. Florida, actually. And you're calling me a "kid"? Judging by the way you spell, write and act, i'm quite sure i'm older than you by a number of years.

JandoFett1842
10-27-2002, 10:26 PM
Originally posted by JEDI_Anakin_S
If you had bothered to read my first post, you'd know I live in the US. Florida, actually. And you're calling me a "kid"? Judging by the way you spell, write and act, i'm quite sure i'm older than you by a number of years.

Really? You think that, well you have 2 be over 16 to think that MAN!! I AM JUST ONE OF THOUSE PEOPLE WHO CANT SPELL AND TYPE FAST AT THE SAME TIME!!

Oh and can we plz drop the topic of my bad spelling before it leads 2 any unfortuiete flaming of you? Ok?

Eldritch
10-27-2002, 10:29 PM
Originally posted by JandoFett1842


Really? You think that, well you have 2 be over 16 to think that MAN!! I AM JUST ONE OF THOUSE PEOPLE WHO CANT SPELL AND TYPE FAST AT THE SAME TIME!!

You don't have to be over 16... there are children who know that...
And why can't you spell and type fast at the same time? There's no excuse for it - everyone else seems to be able to do it. You also seem to have a problem with your Caps Lock button... could it be related?

acdcfanbill
10-27-2002, 10:32 PM
By all mean continue this discussion, but in an orderly and curtious manner from now on, or consider it closed.

JandoFett1842
10-27-2002, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by JEDI_Anakin_S


You don't have to be over 16... there are children who know that...
And why can't you spell and type fast at the same time? There's no excuse for it - everyone else seems to be able to do it. You also seem to have a problem with your Caps Lock button... could it be related?

Listen 2 the mod man!!! Really! Just drop the topic! OK?!

Chewbacco
10-27-2002, 10:39 PM
We have one of the cheapest postal systems in the world.
Don't you think?

Eldritch
10-27-2002, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by JandoFett1842


Listen 2 the mod man!!! Really! Just drop the topic! OK?!

*In my most orderly and curtious voice*
You were the one who kept it going. I will consider it dropped, the matter closed, and any future posts from you on the subject ignored.

Luc Solar
10-28-2002, 03:20 AM
C'mon guys! You're, like...spamming my thread! :mad: ;)

But..umm.... sue Bin Laden?! Wow! Why didn't *I* think of that! Ingenious! But can you award punitive damages against a private person? Hmmm, well I'm sure some US judge will solve that matter in a nice impartial way. Sure hope they'll find a impartial (=never heard of Bin Laden or know anything about 9.11) jury too. So...where did they send the subpoena? :rolleyes:

Or..or...Hey! Maybe if they raised charges against Saddam and get a search warrant, they'd have access to all his palaces too! Woohoo! Screw UN! :D

Okay, this reminds me of another funny thing that I've noticed (might have mentioned this earlier).

Every time I have a debate with an American about legal issues, the same thing happens: they bring up the Constitution. Yeah...as if the Constitution would mean **** to anyone else. Imagine me pulling out the Finnish "Laki eräistä kansainvälisluontoisista perheoikeudellisista suhteista"- law and try to win a argument with that! :rolleyes:

What I'm saying is: There is some truth in what has been said about Americans only focusing on the USA and ignoring the rest of the world as insignificant.

GonkH8er
10-28-2002, 03:53 AM
oh to fkn hell with this thread. stop whinging.

people are either so blind they dont see their own country's faults, or theyre nitpicking every little thing about another country.


We're here to get along, not to get on eachothers nerves.


consider this discussion ended.

:p